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by ChrisF
Wed Jul 26, 2017 2:13 pm
Forum: Old Hiluxes & Stouts up to 1978 models (Gen 1&2)
Topic: 1971 Corona SFA Conversion
Replies: 2
Views: 34

Re: 1971 Corona SFA Conversion

Hello Reenen. Goed om jou aan die kant ook te sien.


Die fotos moet KLEIN wees vir die forum.
by ChrisF
Wed Jul 26, 2017 2:12 pm
Forum: The Workshop
Topic: Dependable workshop in CT for Hilux and Corolla
Replies: 4
Views: 97

Re: Dependable workshop in CT for Hilux and Corolla

Plaas gerus ook hier, asseblief.
by ChrisF
Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:37 am
Forum: The Workshop
Topic: Dependable workshop in CT for Hilux and Corolla
Replies: 4
Views: 97

Re: Dependable workshop in CT for Hilux and Corolla

Francois at 4xLux

Address: Unit 64B, Gemini St, Brackenfell, Cape Town, 7560
Phone: 072 424 0500
by ChrisF
Thu Jul 20, 2017 4:58 pm
Forum: The Workshop
Topic: Benton bx2 vs National Luna battery charger.
Replies: 25
Views: 659

Re: Benton bx2 vs National Luna battery charger.

It does in fact have a power supply function, but it's a different mode selection from charging and maintenance. Don't have the unit or literature close by, but I remember reading about it - not sure what kind of amps are associated with it but it's not very high IIRC. Yes it does. and yes, you hav...
by ChrisF
Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:12 am
Forum: The Workshop
Topic: Benton bx2 vs National Luna battery charger.
Replies: 25
Views: 659

Re: Benton bx2 vs National Luna battery charger.

Mud Dog wrote:
Thu Jul 20, 2017 12:08 am
:blink:
JIP ! :shock2: :o:


I think it comes back to HOW(why) we use a "battery charger" ....


charge/maintenance .... then the BX2 is right up there with the best

powersupply ... NO ! the BX2 is not designed for this ...



turns out I have only ever used it for charging and maintenance
by ChrisF
Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:48 pm
Forum: The Workshop
Topic: Benton bx2 vs National Luna battery charger.
Replies: 25
Views: 659

Re: Benton bx2 vs National Luna battery charger.

Okay ..... test ONE ..... and the results are NOT what I expected !! Woensdag 12:00 – battery 99,9% vol (vanaf die pv paneel) Ontkoppel die pv paneel Sit die Benton BX2 aan 16:00 – BX2 in “float mode”. V=13,1V; Float charge teen 0,3W 1 (Medium).JPG Sit al my 12V toerusting AAN …. Teen 12,8V begin di...
by ChrisF
Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:03 pm
Forum: General Hilux Discussions
Topic: I THINK TOYOTA MUST BE WORRIED
Replies: 29
Views: 887

Re: I THINK TOYOTA MUST BE WORRIED

ja .....

konstruskie voertuie werk HARD ....
by ChrisF
Mon Jul 17, 2017 2:32 pm
Forum: General Hilux Discussions
Topic: I THINK TOYOTA MUST BE WORRIED
Replies: 29
Views: 887

Re: I THINK TOYOTA MUST BE WORRIED

Johan dit sal goed wees on jul terugvoer te sien rakende die kwaliteit van die nuwe Hilux bakkies ... let's face it - julle WERK dit harder as wanneer ons by PnP op die sypaadjie parkeer ... een kolega ry Ranger, nou al op sy derde een. Maar die man ry teerpad, en laai omtrent nooit vrag nie. So 7 n...
by ChrisF
Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:10 am
Forum: General Hilux Discussions
Topic: I THINK TOYOTA MUST BE WORRIED
Replies: 29
Views: 887

Re: I THINK TOYOTA MUST BE WORRIED

Well I think Mazda & Ford are very competitive with their prices, and the techno gimmicks don't not look like a tablet stuck to the dash. The raptor stickers on a Ranger seem to have the same "cult following" as the so called dolphin shape 3 series BMW among certain sections of the population, so I...
by ChrisF
Sun Jul 09, 2017 4:24 pm
Forum: Bad Service
Topic: Alternator and Starter scam
Replies: 7
Views: 212

Re: Alternator and Starter scam

Dawie, hulle werk net van die rekenaar af. Die rekenaar sê dit moet vervang word, dan moet dit vervang word. .... Pieter so paar jaar terug het ek n buurman gehad wat nog n ou-skool mechanic was. 30 Desember daag n vriend van hom op met n Mercedes - wheel bearing is fodde .... Hy bel die handelaars...
by ChrisF
Sun Jul 09, 2017 4:17 pm
Forum: Bad Service
Topic: Alternator and Starter scam
Replies: 7
Views: 212

Re: Alternator and Starter scam

The Legend wrote:
Sun Jul 09, 2017 1:09 pm
...
Vandag se motorwerktuigkundiges kan nie meer goed reg maak nie.Hulle ken net van "replace"
Baie terug was daar "mechanics" - wat n kar kon "reg maak" ....

vandag is dit net "parts-fitters" .... :slap:
by ChrisF
Sun Jul 09, 2017 12:21 pm
Forum: Bad Service
Topic: Alternator and Starter scam
Replies: 7
Views: 212

Re: Alternator and Starter scam

The very least they can do is throw in a pot of Vaseline with every new car ..... Or start delivering proper services, and parts at reasonable prices - this statement goes for ALL manufacturers .... Regtig "keel vol" om te betaal vir n "service plan", maar na elke diens is dit DUIDELIK dat hulle hal...
by ChrisF
Thu Jul 06, 2017 5:38 pm
Forum: General Hilux Discussions
Topic: I THINK TOYOTA MUST BE WORRIED
Replies: 29
Views: 887

Re: I THINK TOYOTA MUST BE WORRIED

Kyk ek hou van Toyota voertuie.

nommer 3 en 4 staan tans in my motorhuis. En ek sal moontlik weer n Toyota koop as n "daily driver" .....


Maar hul na-verkope diens sit regtig DWARS in my krop.


En daai Ranger ry lekkerrrrrrrrr ..... :)
by ChrisF
Thu Jul 06, 2017 12:07 pm
Forum: General Hilux Discussions
Topic: I THINK TOYOTA MUST BE WORRIED
Replies: 29
Views: 887

Re: I THINK TOYOTA MUST BE WORRIED

Alex have you driven the new Ranger ? Recently worked away, and was given a Ranger to use. Did a few hundred kilometers, well I did about 80km behind the steering wheel, on seriously corrugated gravel roads and then open tar .... Then another TOYOTA driver wrestled the keys from me to test the Range...
by ChrisF
Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:11 am
Forum: Alternative Energy
Topic: Most Insane amount of Power
Replies: 8
Views: 196

Re: Most Insane amount of Power

bit off-topic, well slightly .... but have a look at the e-bike technology. European sales are now 50% conventional bikes and 50% e-bikes !! NO, it is NOT a "motorbike". It measures your pedal input, and then adds electrical power as per the selected mode. One of the photographers for the Cape Epic ...
by ChrisF
Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:08 am
Forum: Alternative Energy
Topic: Most Insane amount of Power
Replies: 8
Views: 196

Re: Most Insane amount of Power

Andy I think you may be one step ahead of the ELECTRICAL engineers .... for now the technological development is about finding the right balance of power and batteries. Vehicle dynamics should be a quick fix after that .... I would like to see those "cables" feeding those motors !!! roughly 100kw pe...
by ChrisF
Mon Jul 03, 2017 12:22 pm
Forum: General Hilux Discussions
Topic: 2013 SRX 16''steel rims and tires sizes
Replies: 8
Views: 402

Re: 2013 SRX 16''steel rims and tires sizes

Piet ek dink nie die 15'' pas op die 2010 en ouer Vigo's nie.

My SRX, 2010 model, het uitgekom met 16'' staal rims.

Ek het later 245 bande opgesit
by ChrisF
Sun Jul 02, 2017 5:50 am
Forum: Build your own:
Topic: Long overdue project.
Replies: 235
Views: 12485

Re: Long overdue project.

WOW !

Roger one day I want to be able to work like that with fibre glass ..... NICE !


Thanks for sharing it with us.
by ChrisF
Wed Jun 28, 2017 3:42 pm
Forum: The Workshop
Topic: Benton bx2 vs National Luna battery charger.
Replies: 25
Views: 659

Re: Benton bx2 vs National Luna battery charger.

George I have a meter, but not wired into the charge line ....
by ChrisF
Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:34 pm
Forum: The Workshop
Topic: Benton bx2 vs National Luna battery charger.
Replies: 25
Views: 659

Re: Benton bx2 vs National Luna battery charger.

George die ketel is aan. :) George I made sure that the battery was FULLY charged, and the Benton into float mode. Then I switched on about 8 to 10A off load for more than 30 minutes. It kicked back into charge mode immediately. I let it charge fully, tried again. Same thing. Left if for another day...
by ChrisF
Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:49 pm
Forum: The Workshop
Topic: Benton bx2 vs National Luna battery charger.
Replies: 25
Views: 659

Re: Benton bx2 vs National Luna battery charger.

Mud Dog wrote:
Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:44 pm
I should check to see that mine is not a dud as well .......
^^^ what he said ^^^


One thing to talk about what a charger SHOULD be doing .... another to make sure it actually DOES it ... :o: :mocking:


George might be helping some members by reminding us to check the chargers
by ChrisF
Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:18 pm
Forum: The Workshop
Topic: Benton bx2 vs National Luna battery charger.
Replies: 25
Views: 659

Re: Benton bx2 vs National Luna battery charger.

By 16:30 today the Benton was properly into float charge mode. ALL the lights on, radio .... left it like that for about 30 minutes, drawing down the battery to about 12,7V. Switched off the all the load, and watched the Benton raise the volts again .... sun set, lights used .... volts drop .... Use...
by ChrisF
Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:21 am
Forum: The Workshop
Topic: Benton bx2 vs National Luna battery charger.
Replies: 25
Views: 659

Re: Benton bx2 vs National Luna battery charger.

5:05 this morning the battery was on "float charge", at 13,1V Switched on lights and radio for 30 minutes, dropping the voltage under load to 12,7V. Switched off the loads, had a shower, and the Benton BX2 was getting the voltage back up to 13V. Left it o charge for the day, should on float by early...
by ChrisF
Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:19 pm
Forum: The Workshop
Topic: Benton bx2 vs National Luna battery charger.
Replies: 25
Views: 659

Re: Benton bx2 vs National Luna battery charger.

okay .... George that sounds "strange" .... I have removed the fuses to the PV side and my system now on the Benton BX2 only - DSCN2252 (Small).JPG Should be FULLY charged by tomorrow .... then as the sun sets we will be using the house lights and putting a load on the system. One of two options : -...
by ChrisF
Tue Jun 20, 2017 6:10 am
Forum: General Hilux Discussions
Topic: Who Do You Insure Your Bakkie With?
Replies: 6
Views: 334

Re: Who Do You Insure Your Bakkie With?

Luke I am with Santam. You can specify "extended 4x4 cover", this provides recovery and some extras - best to check with them to make sure what it covers now. I also specified my camper setup, had to submit a letter from approved installer to validate the insured value of the various items I wanted ...
by ChrisF
Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:39 am
Forum: Open Discussion
Topic: Shame on you VW...
Replies: 6
Views: 371

Re: Shame on you VW...

Stef sadly you could add Ford / Mazda / Toyota / ..... into those sentences just as well. This industry is on a downward spiral. My issues with Toyota Barloworld Tygervalley is well documented on this forum. So I take the morning off to take my car to Imperial Toyota Cape Gate - even though my offic...
by ChrisF
Sat Jun 17, 2017 6:27 am
Forum: General Hilux Discussions
Topic: Buggers Stole My Bakkie
Replies: 4
Views: 278

Re: Buggers Stole My Bakkie

Yes, equally easy to reset the ET and DigiDoor remotes.
by ChrisF
Sat Jun 17, 2017 5:00 am
Forum: General Hilux Discussions
Topic: Buggers Stole My Bakkie
Replies: 4
Views: 278

Re: Buggers Stole My Bakkie

Steve welcome to the forum.

GLAD you got your wheels back !!

Check with your insurance - they normally do have a provision in your plan to replace the locks and keys.
by ChrisF
Sat Jun 17, 2017 4:58 am
Forum: General Hilux Discussions
Topic: Loadbin cracks
Replies: 5
Views: 401

Re: Loadbin cracks

JIP - moenie die "werkswinkel bestuurder" se woord net so aanvaar nie. Neem n paar fotos, skryf jou storie neer, en rig aan die "dealer principle" .... versoek dat dit onder waarborg reg gemaak word. As hy nee sê ... versoek skriftelike verduideliking hoekom. PS - hulle SAL na die toestand van die b...
by ChrisF
Sat Jun 17, 2017 4:53 am
Forum: The Workshop
Topic: Benton bx2 vs National Luna battery charger.
Replies: 25
Views: 659

Re: Benton bx2 vs National Luna battery charger.

Many options on the market today. Family-Dog on the forum distributes the Benton chargers. I have two of the Benton BX2 chargers, and VERY happy with it !!!!! Other viable options today : - http://www.4x4direct.co.za/home-chargers/8418-12-volt-5amp-8-stage-intelligent-battery-charger.html This unit ...
by ChrisF
Fri Jun 16, 2017 12:29 pm
Forum: Build your own:
Topic: Long overdue project.
Replies: 235
Views: 12485

Re: Long overdue project.

VASBYT en voorspoed !!

AMPER daar ....
by ChrisF
Tue Jun 06, 2017 3:43 pm
Forum: Open Discussion
Topic: Late night/early morning crew
Replies: 2077
Views: 41842

Re: Late night/early morning crew

17 hour day for my 5 minutes in the meeting .....
by ChrisF
Tue Jun 06, 2017 3:40 pm
Forum: Open Discussion
Topic: Late night/early morning crew
Replies: 2077
Views: 41842

Re: Late night/early morning crew

Valley of a thousand hills is STUNNING .......
by ChrisF
Tue Jun 06, 2017 3:49 am
Forum: Open Discussion
Topic: Late night/early morning crew
Replies: 2077
Views: 41842

Re: Late night/early morning crew

Gou stort .... Kaapstad lughawe ... Durban ... Pietermaritzburg .... Durban (hopelik maak ek die laaste vlug terug Kaap toe) ..... Kaap


dit gaan n lekker LANG dag wees
by ChrisF
Sun Jun 04, 2017 12:17 pm
Forum: Alternative Energy
Topic: Water ...
Replies: 19
Views: 889

Re: Water ...

Some feedback - 200 liter system - this WORKS for washing the cars and mountain bikes !!!!!! :yahoo: :celebrate: A 300 W pump and a multi-function spray head (jet/mist/rain ...) works GOOD to wash the car AND to reduce water usage. PLEASE NOTE - do post the attached sign ! My neighbours know my syst...
by ChrisF
Sun Jun 04, 2017 11:34 am
Forum: Alternative Energy
Topic: Water ...
Replies: 19
Views: 889

Re: Water ...

Had about 20mm of rain last night in Bellville. :thumbup: :yahoo:
by ChrisF
Sun May 28, 2017 3:05 am
Forum: Open Discussion
Topic: Late night/early morning crew
Replies: 2077
Views: 41842

Re: Late night/early morning crew

.uuuhm .....

Had a "vivid" dream, en ordentlik wakker GESKRIK .... sommer een van daai simpel drome wat glad nie sin maak nie ...

darned if I can fall asleep again ....
by ChrisF
Sun May 21, 2017 11:57 am
Forum: Build your own:
Topic: Long overdue project.
Replies: 235
Views: 12485

Re: Long overdue project.

MOOI !!
by ChrisF
Sun Apr 30, 2017 1:02 pm
Forum: General Hilux Discussions
Topic: 2008 Toyota Hilux SRX 2.5 D4D D/C 4x4 - Lift, suspension, wheels, etc.
Replies: 19
Views: 1045

Re: 2008 Toyota Hilux SRX 2.5 D4D D/C 4x4 - Lift, suspension, wheels, etc.

Congrats on the new baby !!!


due to the altitude in Windhoek the 2,5 is extra lazy up there .... this new "lady" will smile nicely for the cameras .... :)


ENJOY
by ChrisF
Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:01 pm
Forum: General Hilux Discussions
Topic: Time To Re Think Pen Postage
Replies: 6
Views: 324

Re: Time To Re Think Pen Postage

bulk deliveries by courier to the club-chair in each area ? Members can collect from there ....

NOT ideal, but better than feeding the post-office .....



lost serious money with items going missing at the post office ... so I really try my best to avoid them ....
by ChrisF
Sat Apr 15, 2017 5:48 am
Forum: General Hilux Discussions
Topic: Hilux sfa general questions
Replies: 7
Views: 440

Re: Hilux sfa general questions

Baie welkom Kobus

Die forum gaan baie stil wees die naweek ... die manne het gaan kamp met hulle Hilux'e ... :)


Seker iemand sal jou wel volgende week antwoord ....
by ChrisF
Tue Apr 11, 2017 7:34 pm
Forum: General Hilux Discussions
Topic: To panel beat before sale or not?
Replies: 10
Views: 688

Re: To panel beat before sale or not?

Take pics BEFORE repairing it, add the repair quote, and volunteer this information when selling.


The buyer may just notice fresh paint and think "accident" ....


and ask the panelbeater to buff up the paint and make her all pretty again ... maar dan gaan jy NIE verkoop nie ... :)
by ChrisF
Tue Apr 11, 2017 7:32 pm
Forum: Open Discussion
Topic: Wat is better as 'n nuwe Hilux?
Replies: 8
Views: 459

Re: Wat is better as 'n nuwe Hilux?

BAIE geluk !!!!!
by ChrisF
Sun Apr 09, 2017 8:17 pm
Forum: General Hilux Discussions
Topic: Xtra cab 4x4 GD 6 prys
Replies: 7
Views: 367

Re: Xtra cab 4x4 GD 6 prys

Sê gerus Chris "Langpad" het jou verwys.

Groete en voorspoed. :)
by ChrisF
Sun Apr 09, 2017 6:00 pm
Forum: General Hilux Discussions
Topic: Xtra cab 4x4 GD 6 prys
Replies: 7
Views: 367

Re: Xtra cab 4x4 GD 6 prys

Dit hang als af van jou plaaslike handelaar .... 3 tot 5% is seker die norm. Maar as hulle honger is vir n sale kan jy dalk 7% kry .... Laas jaar n handelaar gehad wat ZERO afslag aanbied - EFT en geen trade, maar not a dem wou daai man besigheid praat nie .... 2km verder 7% afslag gekry. Praat geru...
by ChrisF
Tue Apr 04, 2017 1:46 pm
Forum: Medical forum
Topic: Affinity Health Medical Aid
Replies: 6
Views: 353

Re: Affinity Health Medical Aid

Not to be funny, but some medical insurance companies are cheap for a reason. Not saying Afinity is. I don't know them. You get what you pay for. Please read the fine print before making a decision. Also, as Bliksempie says: See a specialist before making up your mind. I have seen too many times th...
by ChrisF
Mon Apr 03, 2017 4:10 pm
Forum: Medical forum
Topic: Affinity Health Medical Aid
Replies: 6
Views: 353

Re: Affinity Health Medical Aid

Dingo please email me the file


I cant load it. But would like to see what they offer


Sounds cheaper than most others .....
by ChrisF
Fri Mar 31, 2017 3:00 am
Forum: Build your own:
Topic: My Hilux Camper build
Replies: 33
Views: 1242

Re: My Hilux Camper build

WOW !!

NICE projek !!
by ChrisF
Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:19 am
Forum: Alternative Energy
Topic: Water ...
Replies: 19
Views: 889

Re: Water ...

October last year my neighbour ordered a couple of rain water tanks ... on the spur of the moment I asked him to include a 1 500 liter tank for me. It was the best value for money option, though the aim was to primary use it for back washing the pool into. It helps that I have a 64m2 garage roof tha...
by ChrisF
Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:11 am
Forum: Alternative Energy
Topic: Water ...
Replies: 19
Views: 889

Re: Water ...

Time for some feedback .... We have all seen the photos in the media of water levels in the dams being "low" .... photos DONT do it justice !!! Over the last three weekends we have been doing a lot of driving, and past many of our dams. downright scary !! Here are some pics of farm dams in the Weste...
by ChrisF
Fri Mar 17, 2017 9:11 pm
Forum: Anything Else for sale
Topic: Hi - lift jack
Replies: 2
Views: 708

Re: Hi - lift jack

Kempton Park
by ChrisF
Fri Mar 10, 2017 11:07 am
Forum: Medical forum
Topic: Diabetes... a new healthier life style ...
Replies: 79
Views: 3973

Re: Diabetes... a new healthier life style ...

FIL was in the sick-bay for more than a year, 82 years old. This buriel is sort of "okay", as deaths go ... What hit us hard was that his buriel was pushed back so that Henro could come back from Naval exercises. Mid February Henro was one of three navel staff that passed away in Durban trying to sa...
by ChrisF
Fri Mar 10, 2017 10:01 am
Forum: Medical forum
Topic: Diabetes... a new healthier life style ...
Replies: 79
Views: 3973

Re: Diabetes... a new healthier life style ...

Thanks guys Edge I often wonder where one draws the line between social media and private life ..... Hopefully this thread may be a postive example to others dealing with lifestyle issues. Yes. Every so often I still put in the 60+ hour work week. Very often I get up at 4 to capture some design thou...
by ChrisF
Tue Mar 07, 2017 6:22 pm
Forum: Medical forum
Topic: Diabetes... a new healthier life style ...
Replies: 79
Views: 3973

Re: Diabetes... a new healthier life style ...

And so a year has passed ..... and what a year it has been .... 2 March 2016 it was confirmed I have Type 2 diabetes. I have some friends that have gone down the road. Know a few that have lost limbs. Neighbour had his leg amputated last year. Another died of a double hart attack, apparently linked ...
by ChrisF
Sun Feb 19, 2017 6:06 pm
Forum: Build your own:
Topic: Riv nut tool cheep cheep!
Replies: 1
Views: 447

Re: Riv nut tool cheep cheep!

nice idee vir DIY projekte
by ChrisF
Sat Feb 04, 2017 5:35 pm
Forum: Any Other Vehicle
Topic: Yaris, verloor krag
Replies: 5
Views: 312

Re: Yaris, verloor krag

Met die Hilux moes ek twee keer die cruise control uitplug. Om die blok ry. Plug die cruise control terug en dan is hy weer reg vir n paar jaar .....

Electronics is n pyn ....
by ChrisF
Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:06 pm
Forum: To Swop or Give Away
Topic: ,Philips Xendrive XLD 288
Replies: 9
Views: 476

Re: ,Philips Xendrive XLD 288

skuus, maar WAT is dit ?
by ChrisF
Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:05 am
Forum: General Hilux Discussions
Topic: Hilux V6 Revo or Cruiser V6 DC?
Replies: 33
Views: 931

Re: Hilux V6 Revo or Cruiser V6 DC?

.........maar wat is 'n "pedal box"?? Bly jy is happy met daai V6!!! Petri , dis n klein boxie wat jy by die petrol pedaal inplug, sommer self, daar waar die drade by die petrol pedaal nplug. Jy kon dit stel na gelang van jou behoeftes, , ek dink wat hy doen is hy vertel die ECU om meer petrol te v...
by ChrisF
Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:09 pm
Forum: General Hilux Discussions
Topic: GD-6 2,8 4x4 Raider D/Cab Manual : The Good and the Bad
Replies: 36
Views: 1605

Re: GD-6 2,8 4x4 Raider D/Cab Manual : The Good and the Bad

With the Vigo I went through the same. When I fitted the front bumper they installed temporary spacers for me to get the bakkie level. Actually scraped the plastic bumper due to its low stance before this. Once it was kitted the back sagged enough that it was now running uphill. The reality is that ...
by ChrisF
Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:59 am
Forum: General Hilux Discussions
Topic: GD-6 2,8 4x4 Raider D/Cab Manual : The Good and the Bad
Replies: 36
Views: 1605

Re: GD-6 2,8 4x4 Raider D/Cab Manual : The Good and the Bad

Petri onthou tog net .. lig die neus dan loop hy gelyk ... tot jy iets agterop laai, dan sleep die gat ....


as jy genoeg off-road gaan ry, kry liewer n behoorlike suspension ....

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