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- Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:38 am
- Forum: Gauteng
- Topic: Krokodilberg 7 June
- Replies: 56
- Views: 6810
Re: Krokodilberg 7 June
anyone else joining us this weekend?
- Tue Feb 25, 2014 10:51 am
- Forum: Build your own:
- Topic: Recovery Points.......PLEASE Vote AFTER reading
- Replies: 40
- Views: 5153
- Tue Feb 25, 2014 10:37 am
- Forum: Build your own:
- Topic: Recovery Points.......PLEASE Vote AFTER reading
- Replies: 40
- Views: 5153
Re: Recovery Points.......PLEASE Vote AFTER reading
so, how big a shackle does that hole take?
- Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:55 pm
- Forum: Trail Reports
- Topic: Krokodilberg 4x4 - buite Brits, NW
- Replies: 8
- Views: 6270
Re: Krokodilberg 4x4 - buite Brits, NW
Looks like a nice track...
And are you happy with your van and what it did on the track?
Welcome to the family and hope you join us for some events so that we can all meet you!
And are you happy with your van and what it did on the track?
Welcome to the family and hope you join us for some events so that we can all meet you!
- Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:48 pm
- Forum: Competitions
- Topic: Raffle - R2000 gift voucher - Important notice - CLOSED
- Replies: 76
- Views: 32671
Re: Raffle - R2000 gift voucher
:shock: Beteken dit ek mag ook nie! :blink: Ek weet nie... met my luck wen ek dit nog dan voel ek dalk net skuldig :mocking: :mocking: With regards to this, I think if you pay for a ticket you should still be eligible for the prize. To make sure everything is transparent, I suggest I print out a sh...
- Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:38 pm
- Forum: Community Responsibility
- Topic: Help save Daniel's Spine
- Replies: 4
- Views: 4170
Re: Help save Daniel's Spine
Shawn, I think it would be best if people just donated directly to the fund at the link above, we do not necessarily have to start a raffle or anything. If we do decide to do this however, I will offer a prize for a raffle next month - possibly a Dash Camera (once our stocks arrive!). -F_D And this...
- Mon Feb 10, 2014 10:02 am
- Forum: Gauteng
- Topic: 08 February 2014 – Kungwini – Beginners / Ladies day
- Replies: 79
- Views: 12948
Re: 08 February 2014 – Kungwini – Beginners / Ladies day
="Faceless#00"]thanks guys
was a great day
will have to do it again[/quote]
Hey! Good to see you here! Browse around under Gauteng events, there you can see the dates for events.
was a great day
will have to do it again[/quote]
Hey! Good to see you here! Browse around under Gauteng events, there you can see the dates for events.
- Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:36 am
- Forum: Gauteng
- Topic: 08 February 2014 – Kungwini – Beginners / Ladies day
- Replies: 79
- Views: 12948
Re: 08 February 2014 – Kungwini – Beginners / Ladies day
Dit was nogal! Daar was 4 ander voertuie wat net kom speel het en toe nooi ons om by ons in te val. Hulle het dit ook weg baie geniet!CasKru wrote:Jis... dit lyk mos nou amper asof julle groot pret gehad het. Thanks for sharing the pics
Re: TECH day
ok back to our tech day planning a survival weekend in the bush we have a nice well informed dude ( our very own thunder 02) that is also very involved in scouts too. we also have the use of a qualified ecologist (RAFS) . she knows plants and stuff so we plan a weekend out , involve the family and ...
- Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:38 pm
- Forum: North West Province
- Topic: Invitation to Krokodilberg 4x4 Open day - Brits
- Replies: 7
- Views: 4985
Re: Invitation to Krokodilberg 4x4 Open day - Brits
It is open from 7 we can unfortunately only go on Sunday. You are welcome to go tomorrow.fx1 wrote:What time do you plan to meet there tomorrow morning?
- Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:36 pm
- Forum: North West Province
- Topic: Invitation to Krokodilberg 4x4 Open day - Brits
- Replies: 7
- Views: 4985
Re: Invitation to Krokodilberg 4x4 Open day - Brits
Hey guys,
Please don't forget the Open day at Krokodilberg. We went and scouted this past weekend...very nice braai areas next to the fishing dam.
obstacle course ranges from calm to seriously "not for the fainthearted" remember you can go Saturday or Sunday or stay over for the night.
Please don't forget the Open day at Krokodilberg. We went and scouted this past weekend...very nice braai areas next to the fishing dam.
obstacle course ranges from calm to seriously "not for the fainthearted" remember you can go Saturday or Sunday or stay over for the night.
- Sun Jan 19, 2014 5:13 pm
- Forum: Gauteng
- Topic: 08 February 2014 – Kungwini – Beginners / Ladies day
- Replies: 79
- Views: 12948
Re: 08 February 2014 – Kungwini – Beginners / Ladies day
Awesome, looking forward to seeing you there!rigardt wrote:just got my hilux.
just joined the club.
count us in. we will be there !
will bring wood ! lots of it !
- Thu Jan 16, 2014 7:35 pm
- Forum: Gauteng
- Topic: 08 February 2014 – Kungwini – Beginners / Ladies day
- Replies: 79
- Views: 12948
Re: 08 February 2014 – Kungwini – Beginners / Ladies day
1: Ali3n & Rafs (To pay)(charcoal) 2: Johan & Sidonie 3: Cleaner & Crew ( To pay) 4: JohanM & Family (Charcoal) - Not doing trail as 4x4 is not anymore.... 5:Dingo & ........ ( wood ) 6:WayneSchalk & Angela (charcoal) 7:Lollie (Will join you for the braai-charcoal) 8: BushMa...
- Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:11 am
- Forum: Gauteng
- Topic: RFAD - 8 March 14 @ BASE 4 - Important notice p2
- Replies: 143
- Views: 17916
Re: RFAD Fun Day 2014 - 8 March 2014
Also we might need a few volunteers to man our stand if we are putting up the gazebos this year?
- Mon Jan 13, 2014 4:19 pm
- Forum: North West Province
- Topic: Invitation to Krokodilberg 4x4 Open day - Brits
- Replies: 7
- Views: 4985
Invitation to Krokodilberg 4x4 Open day - Brits
Hi guys and ladies The Hilux4x4 forum has been invited to the Krokodilberg 4x4 Open day! Krokodilberg is situated just outside Brits just off the R511. GPS: S 25º 31′ 39.84″ E 27º 42′ 09.34″ http://krokodilberg.co.za/?page_id=70" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; The event will...
- Mon Jan 13, 2014 12:45 pm
- Forum: Gauteng
- Topic: 08 February 2014 – Kungwini – Beginners / Ladies day
- Replies: 79
- Views: 12948
Re: 08 February 2014 – Kungwini – Beginners / Ladies day
Guys and ladies, don't be shy to bring your friends along! all is welcome, we are not brand bias.... and its also nice to see how different vehicles perform on different obstacles...
- Thu Jan 09, 2014 3:11 pm
- Forum: Pictures Only - Post a pic of your Hilux
- Topic: My Toyota Hilux 4Runner
- Replies: 6
- Views: 1979
Re: My Toyota Hilux 4Runner
En daar het Ali3n nog n maaitjie!
- Mon Dec 02, 2013 10:36 am
- Forum: Open Discussion
- Topic: moegatle 30 nov 2013
- Replies: 132
- Views: 11920
Re: moegatle 30 nov 2013
Basies dieselfde gedoen as wat hannes met Bridgestone Gedoen het, bietjie te ver met die linker wiel teen die wal opgery, te laat gedraai, en toe tip hy oor...SakkieCoetzee wrote: ...eina!!! vertel wat gebeur het, en waar op Moegatle.
- Sun Dec 01, 2013 7:47 pm
- Forum: Open Discussion
- Topic: moegatle 30 nov 2013
- Replies: 132
- Views: 11920
Re: moegatle 30 nov 2013
Pieter, baie bly om te sien jyt die flatbed toe by jou huis gekry!
- Mon Nov 25, 2013 9:53 am
- Forum: Gauteng
- Topic: YEAR END CELEBRATIONS 22-24 November - Kareekrans 4x4
- Replies: 113
- Views: 12777
Re: YEAR END CELEBRATIONS 22-24 November - Kareekrans 4x4
Guys and ladies thank you for a great weekend from my side as well!! Karee krans is really a good trail, something for everyone, and the scenery is beautiful. Signage on the routes were well done and the camping facilities were clean. All in all a well looked after place. Also thank you to Ali3n for...
- Sun Nov 24, 2013 3:15 pm
- Forum: Open Discussion
- Topic: moegatle 30 nov 2013
- Replies: 132
- Views: 11920
Re: moegatle 30 nov 2013
Jy beter weet dat dit nog gebeurlouis fourie wrote:Dis 'n week voor die 30ste en die thread is dood . Gebeur Moegatle nog?
Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk
En ons mag dalk nog 'n paar voertuie by kry.
- Fri Nov 22, 2013 7:41 pm
- Forum: Gauteng
- Topic: YEAR END CELEBRATIONS 22-24 November - Kareekrans 4x4
- Replies: 113
- Views: 12777
Re: YEAR END CELEBRATIONS 22-24 November - Kareekrans 4x4
Drivers briefing is 9uur,sien julle daar!
- Thu Nov 21, 2013 7:22 am
- Forum: Gauteng
- Topic: YEAR END CELEBRATIONS 22-24 November - Kareekrans 4x4
- Replies: 113
- Views: 12777
Re: YEAR END CELEBRATIONS 22-24 November - Kareekrans 4x4
Die dame daar se hulle het nog baie min reën gehad en dis baie droog.
- Tue Nov 19, 2013 9:29 am
- Forum: Gauteng
- Topic: YEAR END CELEBRATIONS 22-24 November - Kareekrans 4x4
- Replies: 113
- Views: 12777
Re: YEAR END CELEBRATIONS 22-24 November - Kareekrans 4x4
Helo guys and ladies!! Please take note, in case you feel lost going to Kareekrans: After Rustenburg, from the N4 take the SECOND (2nd) Waterval turn-off, then drive untill you get the Kareekrans sign board, follow signage from there. And if you need electricity, please bring long leads just in case...
- Wed Oct 30, 2013 11:20 am
- Forum: Gauteng
- Topic: YEAR END CELEBRATIONS 22-24 November - Kareekrans 4x4
- Replies: 113
- Views: 12777
Re: YEAR END CELEBRATIONS 22-24 November - Kareekrans 4x4
23 days to go, join us, meet some new people, kom kuier with some well known faces!! this is always a joll!
- Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:06 am
- Forum: Open Discussion
- Topic: moegatle 30 nov 2013
- Replies: 132
- Views: 11920
Re: moegatle 30 nov 2013
Ek reken daardie naweek ry ons met 2 voertuie....
Wie wil my Navi wees??? miskien kan ek nog n man laat skree
Wie wil my Navi wees??? miskien kan ek nog n man laat skree
- Wed Oct 30, 2013 9:56 am
- Forum: Open Discussion
- Topic: Hilux welcomes Jeep to the Family
- Replies: 32
- Views: 3166
Re: Hilux welcomes Jeep to the Family
Sally will LOVE the little Nunu, Just as I love my Nunu!!
- Sun Oct 27, 2013 9:12 pm
- Forum: Gauteng
- Topic: YEAR END CELEBRATIONS 22-24 November - Kareekrans 4x4
- Replies: 113
- Views: 12777
Re: YEAR END CELEBRATIONS 22-24 November - Kareekrans 4x4
There's still lots of space left...
- Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:38 am
- Forum: Open Discussion
- Topic: Hilux4x4 Marshals - Gauteng
- Replies: 190
- Views: 16357
Re: Hilux4x4 Marshals - Gauteng
What a day, it was fun and wet. Thanks for the help guys, we received great feedback. Just want to let all the guys know, we were invited to attend their open day on the 3rd which is next sunday. Those of you whou are able to go are more than welcome. I will not be able to attend but it is a nice v...
- Thu Oct 17, 2013 1:48 pm
- Forum: Open Discussion
- Topic: Hilux4x4 Marshals - Gauteng
- Replies: 190
- Views: 16357
Re: Hilux4x4 Marshals - Gauteng
Just 1 more team at least guys. Bulletjie3? Wil jy nie kom join nie? :twisted: Mebbe what we do is put Wendy and Rafs together at an obstacle and let you and Ernest each take other obstacles ... although then everyone will keep getting stuck in the girls obstacle and will refuse to move on. lol. :l...
- Thu Oct 17, 2013 1:43 pm
- Forum: Gauteng
- Topic: Rust De Winter Bundu Trail 7 Dec 2013... Final Arangements
- Replies: 145
- Views: 19204
Re: Rust De Winter Bundu Trail 30Nov 2013... DATE CHANGE!!!
Those people should start upping their game!! Shame on them...
- Thu Oct 17, 2013 1:01 pm
- Forum: Open Discussion
- Topic: Hilux4x4 Marshals - Gauteng
- Replies: 190
- Views: 16357
Re: Hilux4x4 Marshals - Gauteng
Just 1 more team at least guys. Bulletjie3? Wil jy nie kom join nie? :twisted: Mebbe what we do is put Wendy and Rafs together at an obstacle and let you and Ernest each take other obstacles ... although then everyone will keep getting stuck in the girls obstacle and will refuse to move on. lol. :l...
- Thu Oct 17, 2013 10:36 am
- Forum: Gauteng
- Topic: YEAR END CELEBRATIONS 22-24 November - Kareekrans 4x4
- Replies: 113
- Views: 12777
Re: YEAR END CELEBRATIONS 22-24 November - Kareekrans 4x4
People, bring you friends along this is open to everyone who wants to join in on the fun!!
- Thu Oct 17, 2013 10:30 am
- Forum: Open Discussion
- Topic: Hilux4x4 Marshals - Gauteng
- Replies: 190
- Views: 16357
Re: Hilux4x4 Marshals - Gauteng
optirite wrote:List
1: Ali3n & Rafs
2: Johno & Sally
3: mcw
4: Pote
5: Donkey + 1
6: Cleaner & Wendy
7:Mike and Estelle
8:
This is gonna be fun I can tell!!!
- Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:32 am
- Forum: Open Discussion
- Topic: Hilux4x4 Marshals - Gauteng
- Replies: 190
- Views: 16357
Re: Hilux4x4 Marshals - Gauteng
Of as jy nie van wiskunde hou nie: http://www.csgnetwork.com/gpscoordconv.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;CasKru wrote:Just for future reference.... viewtopic.php?f=34&t=10222" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
- Thu Oct 17, 2013 7:20 am
- Forum: Open Discussion
- Topic: Hilux4x4 Marshals - Gauteng
- Replies: 190
- Views: 16357
Re: Hilux4x4 Marshals - Gauteng
Kan ek daai in decimal degrees kry asseblief?CasKru wrote:They are on the R511.
Gravel road of the R511 leading to the club: 25°51'42.63"S 28° 0'27.93"E
Entrance to the club grounds: 25°51'53.77"S 28° 0'5.46"E
Club House: 25°51'50.83"S 28° 0'0.74"E
- Thu Oct 17, 2013 6:52 am
- Forum: Open Discussion
- Topic: Hilux4x4 Marshals - Gauteng
- Replies: 190
- Views: 16357
Re: Hilux4x4 Marshals - Gauteng
YayDonkey wrote:Donkey + 1 will be available to assist
- Wed Oct 16, 2013 1:31 pm
- Forum: Open Discussion
- Topic: Hilux4x4 Marshals - Gauteng
- Replies: 190
- Views: 16357
Re: Hilux4x4 Marshals - Gauteng
So party at uncle Mike's house?optirite wrote:Sunday all day.Cleaner wrote:Just to confirm - it is for Sunday 20 October 2013?
Do we have times yet?
I have my son this weekend, but might be able to make arrangements.
- Mon Oct 14, 2013 11:09 am
- Forum: Gauteng
- Topic: Berakah - 12th October
- Replies: 152
- Views: 16303
Re: Berakah - 12th October
And I heard most people didn't see the yellow striped rock lizard colony....
- Tue Oct 01, 2013 12:24 pm
- Forum: Gauteng
- Topic: Berakah - 12th October
- Replies: 152
- Views: 16303
Re: Berakah - 12th October
Seems like the cleaner and Ali3n crew might also be camping... still under discussion....
- Tue Oct 01, 2013 12:18 pm
- Forum: Open Discussion
- Topic: NOW? ORCSA?
- Replies: 6
- Views: 1013
Re: NOW? ORCSA?
Protected areas are small isolated areas throughout South Africa....
- Fri Sep 27, 2013 11:50 am
- Forum: Gauteng
- Topic: Rust De Winter Bundu Trail 7 Dec 2013... Final Arangements
- Replies: 145
- Views: 19204
Re: Rust De Winter Bundu Trail 30Nov 2013
Might have some more people who would be interested to join you guys...
Sending him the info, he will let me know.
Sending him the info, he will let me know.
- Thu Sep 26, 2013 12:51 pm
- Forum: Gauteng
- Topic: YEAR END CELEBRATIONS 22-24 November - Kareekrans 4x4
- Replies: 113
- Views: 12777
Re: YEAR END CELEBRATIONS 22-24 November - Kareekrans 4x4
So people who else is interested in joining us for the Year end GTG?
- Wed Sep 25, 2013 3:37 pm
- Forum: Gauteng
- Topic: At se Gat - Feedback from scouting
- Replies: 23
- Views: 3394
Re: At se Gat - Feedback from scouting
Just to give you an idea, the following recovery gear were requires (attendees lease add if I forgot something): Rated Bridal for front fix, Nylon rope to ensure bridal does not get caught on the tyre Snatch rope to pull the back end in line, tied down by another bridal. bag with rocks to avoid flyi...
- Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:48 pm
- Forum: Gauteng
- Topic: At se Gat - Feedback from scouting
- Replies: 23
- Views: 3394
Re: At se Gat - Feedback from scouting
Also thanks to the AWESOME bumper Ali3n built, my jeep got home without any body damage...
- Thu Sep 19, 2013 4:40 pm
- Forum: Gauteng
- Topic: Meet & Greet - Stonehaven on Vaal - 24 September
- Replies: 14
- Views: 2750
Re: Meet & Greet - Stonehaven on Vaal - 24 September
moegatle ? Ooops, het vergeet. Sorry guys, This will not be happening. I have a date with Moegatle... :yahoo: gaan jy biki met jouse voete daar deur die dongas loop? Naai, ekke gaan met jouse jeepie daar loop speel. :thumbup: So myse Jeepie is nou lekker nou lat jouse waspoeier nie loop staan en wa...
- Thu Sep 19, 2013 3:21 pm
- Forum: Gauteng
- Topic: Meet & Greet - Stonehaven on Vaal - 24 September
- Replies: 14
- Views: 2750
Re: Meet & Greet - Stonehaven on Vaal - 24 September
gaan jy biki met jouse voete daar deur die dongas loop?Ali3n wrote:Ooops, het vergeet. Sorry guys, This will not be happening. I have a date with Moegatle...JEEPIE wrote:moegatle ?
- Thu Sep 19, 2013 1:58 pm
- Forum: Gauteng
- Topic: Meet & Greet - Stonehaven on Vaal - 24 September
- Replies: 14
- Views: 2750
Re: Meet & Greet - Stonehaven on Vaal - 24 September
O het jy??!!Ali3n wrote:Ooops, het vergeet. Sorry guys, This will not be happening. I have a date with Moegatle...JEEPIE wrote:moegatle ?
- Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:09 pm
- Forum: Gauteng
- Topic: YEAR END CELEBRATIONS 22-24 November - Kareekrans 4x4
- Replies: 113
- Views: 12777
- Fri Sep 13, 2013 2:10 pm
- Forum: Gauteng
- Topic: Berakah - 12th October
- Replies: 152
- Views: 16303
Re: Berakah - 12th October
Yay! This is gonna be fuuuuuun Ek sien sy been het mooi aan gegroei. Gaan jy die keer sy arm breek sodat jy die wiel kan kry.....? :mocking: Die Isuzu parte werk almal nog baie oulik. Ek probeer daai hilux diff op dieselfde standaard kry :cooldude: ekt nou my eie speelding, so nou kan ek sonder my ...
- Fri Sep 13, 2013 11:34 am
- Forum: Gauteng
- Topic: Berakah - 12th October
- Replies: 152
- Views: 16303
Re: Berakah - 12th October
Yay! This is gonna be fuuuuuunSakkieCoetzee wrote:As julle ouens nie bang is om 'n Isuzu te recover nie, sal ek, Adele en Granny julle join.....
- Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:03 am
- Forum: Open Discussion
- Topic: Hilux4x4 Marshals - Gauteng
- Replies: 190
- Views: 16357
Re: Hilux4x4 Marshals - Gauteng
As long as you wear you sticker with prideOetie wrote:Ok, I am keen if you will accept a Pathfinder driver... At least the Pathy does have a Hilix4x4 sticker on....
- Mon Sep 09, 2013 12:38 pm
- Forum: Gauteng
- Topic: Rust De Winter Bundu Trail 7 Dec 2013... Final Arangements
- Replies: 145
- Views: 19204
Re: Rust De Winter Bundu Trail 30Nov 2013
Ok up date on the time period... I need to confirm the amount of vehicles that we have by the 1st November and pay a deposit.... So come on guys we need a min of 10 vehicles to book the weekend just for us or we could end up having LR's joining us and then we'll be doing recoveries the entire weeke...
- Mon Sep 09, 2013 12:33 pm
- Forum: Build your own:
- Topic: 1st Bumper Build
- Replies: 56
- Views: 5895
Re: 1st Bumper Build
Now just to get him working on that Surf again...Thunder02 wrote:Looking good
That Jeep going to have attitude
- Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:49 am
- Forum: Build your own:
- Topic: 1st Bumper Build
- Replies: 56
- Views: 5895
Re: 1st Bumper Build
Driveway not completely level...Mud Dog wrote:Cool!! And you can always cut a winch-plate into there if you ever decide to do so.
The driver's side is a bit lower by the looks of it, or is the fender higher. (Maybe you can still tweak it a bit).
- Mon Sep 09, 2013 10:54 am
- Forum: Build your own:
- Topic: 1st Bumper Build
- Replies: 56
- Views: 5895
Re: 1st Bumper Build
As Secretary is ek seker daar is spasie in sy dagboek om biki te gesels... HiehieHuismoeles wrote:Lyk mooi
Net jammer dis op n cheep
Kan jy nie een vir my tuna bou nie
Ek like my bumper sommer baie!
- Fri Sep 06, 2013 11:53 am
- Forum: Open Discussion
- Topic: Hilux4x4 Marshals - Gauteng
- Replies: 190
- Views: 16357
Re: Hilux4x4 Marshals - Gauteng
Schhhhh but marshals also get discount on Bridgestone tyres. AND the Winner of Best Marshal of the Bridgestone Club Challenge Series gets a prize of a set of Bridgestone tyres!!! :yahoo: :celebrate: BUT wait, there's more! Nee regtig ouens, daar is nog soveel meer. Ons wil 'n groot genoeg span hê s...
- Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:44 am
- Forum: Gauteng
- Topic: YEAR END CELEBRATIONS 22-24 November - Kareekrans 4x4
- Replies: 113
- Views: 12777
Re: YEAR END CELEBRATIONS 22-24 November - Kareekrans 4x4
Nice place,was there a few years back :thumbup: How are the trails? There is a bit of everything,from easy going to the bit more challenging. Last we where there,you have to be self supporting power wise,and no cell reception,the way i love it. It may have changed since i was there. They also have ...
- Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:00 pm
- Forum: Gauteng
- Topic: Rust De Winter Bundu Trail 7 Dec 2013... Final Arangements
- Replies: 145
- Views: 19204
Re: Rust De Winter Bundu Trail 30Nov 2013
I suggest to keep the topic going, so people know about it.
- Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:42 pm
- Forum: Gauteng
- Topic: YEAR END CELEBRATIONS 22-24 November - Kareekrans 4x4
- Replies: 113
- Views: 12777
YEAR END CELEBRATIONS 22-24 November - Kareekrans 4x4
Hi guys and ladies The year end function will be held at Kareekrans, 42 km from Rustenburg. The 4×4 routes are split into three trails of varying difficulty, guaranteed to keep the 4x4holics busy for a weekend. Camping R70 per persoon per nag. R35 kinders tussen 7-12jr. per nag. Onder 7jr. gratis. ...