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Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:27 pm

Het iemand 'n idee of het iemand onlangs sulke batterye gekoop?

Waar, en hoeveel het dit gekos?

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Tue Jul 01, 2014 8:00 pm

Louis, there is a post on the Community Forum where a member is very unhappy with his. Packed up within a year, apparently as a result of over-charging. Yet he bought the battery, solar panels & regulator all from the same company in one deal. So, I dunno.... stick to the devil you know.


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Tue Jul 01, 2014 9:31 pm

LC batteries seem to do good, but for that price you can wreck maybe 3 high cycles which might last as long as the LC, or longer?!

I use raylite AGM batteries, and very happy with them. If you do only 2 or 3 trips a year and charge the battery with a smart charger at home, a semi deep cycle will do as good.
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Wed Jul 02, 2014 9:51 am

Johan Kriel wrote:LC batteries seem to do good, but for that price you can wreck maybe 3 high cycles which might last as long as the LC, or longer?!

I use raylite AGM batteries, and very happy with them. If you do only 2 or 3 trips a year and charge the battery with a smart charger at home, a semi deep cycle will do as good.
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Are you talking about the Raylite Ultimate? Where can I get it?

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Wed Jul 02, 2014 7:08 pm

Yes that's the one. http://www.batterycentre.co.za/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

What I like about it sealed and stays clean. Must say we don't get any other AGM batteries around here.
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Sun Jul 13, 2014 9:20 pm

My 2 Raylite AGM's is bestel. 90A is die grootste:?. Johan ek hoop hulle werk goed, anders gaan ek jou gras uit spin:lol:

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Ten minste kos hulle nie R4200. :lol:
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Ek moes toe so 'n paar modifikasies maak om die batterye te kon in kry (waterpyp van die Companion was in die pad en daar is twee boute wat deur die vloer kom). Ek gebruik in elk geval nooit die filler prop om my tenks mee vol te maak nie. Ek het toe 2 reducers (50mm na 20mm) ingesit met 'n "slap" pyp tussen die twee en die elbow uitgehaal. Die 50mm pyp wat nog daar is kan nou uit die pad gedruk word.

Vir die twee boute wat deur die vloer kom het ek 16mm pressed wood gevat en 2X 18mm gate geboor waar die boute is. Die batterye staan jou mooi plat en sommer op hout ook - ek verstaan dit is goed vir 'n battery.

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Sun Jul 20, 2014 7:26 am

Hi Louis, don't know if this will help, on our previous trip (weekend Fri - Sun) to Lesotho I used a normal car battery, I think 50 or 60 Ah (borrowed from the platkar), which did the trick, from then onwards when I had cash I bought a higher Ah, 90Ah, which I'm quiet happy with at a fraction of that cost.
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Hi Tumelo. I bought 2 of the 90A AGM batteries.

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Sun Jul 20, 2014 7:39 am

Cool, if you gonna use DC/DC chargers, make sure each has its own :thumbup: , just my 2cw
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louis fourie wrote:Hi Tumelo. I bought 2 of the 90A AGM batteries.

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Yip. I want to buy two of the 30A HCDP chargers, but saving at this stage. They are damn expensive.

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Sun Jul 20, 2014 7:59 am

How much are they? I know the 12A unit is around a grand
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Sun Jul 20, 2014 8:56 am

I'm wondering why in this day and age of fancy electronic gadgetry, we're still battling with heavy, cumbersome and expensive batteries. Wonder why the industry has not moved to capacitors with a built in regulated discharge. I know it's possible, it's been done by a private amateur, so where's the problem ... is the industry protecting the interests of the battery producers?

A bank of caps that weigh less than 5% and costing a fraction of a conventional battery, take up less than a ¼ of the space and can be recharged in an instant, makes a lot more practical sense. As I understand, the drawback is that the caps don't hold their charge for much longer than a week, but access to a power point once every few days eliminates the problem, otherwise there's still the solar panel option to keep them charged.

Where are the electronics fundi's, what say you? :think:
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Excellent point Andy............going to watch this one with interest. Maybe a new thread so it doesn't get lost here??
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drawback is that the caps don't hold their charge for much longer than a week
Agree with you, it is charged in an instant, so if it loose power you just plug it into a socket for 2 seconds and off you go.
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So iets
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news ... apacitors/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:06 pm

just an update on the LC batteries - from the thread on 4x4Community :

Battery failed in less than a year and Current Automation sold the COMPLETE KIT to the gent now says the kit does not include a dc2dc charger THUS the failure !!

Went to Deltec and they are talking even more nonsense !!



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pietpetoors wrote:So iets
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news ... apacitors/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
:thumbup: :thumbup: Interesting article. Also explains why the applications of super-caps has not included the automotive industry yet as a battery replacement (energy density).

This sparked my interest some months back .....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3x_kYq3mHM" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8miq6sDy0wA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUXM1XuLUIs" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I see there is a later update .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPJao1xLe7w" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ..... not so compact any more, but then I don't think he's using super-caps. :think:
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Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:06 am

Interesting :thumbup:

I must say my opinion about what batteries to use ,is that if you dont have a DC-DC charger and only using the alternator to charge the second battery than a normal High Cycle gives me the best service.
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Johan Kriel wrote:LC batteries seem to do good, but for that price you can wreck maybe 3 high cycles which might last as long as the LC, or longer?!

I use raylite AGM batteries, and very happy with them. If you do only 2 or 3 trips a year and charge the battery with a smart charger at home, a semi deep cycle will do as good.
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louis , jy vra my, ek het n ctek 250 laaier is my SW, en die NL battery monitor, alle groen liggies brand as ek in die oggend begin ry en soos hy vol word brand net 2 later. As jy stop dan gaan alle groen liggies dood na n ruk.

Maar ek het iewers dit gekry dat 12.9 volt 100% volgelaai is.
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Johan Kriel wrote:louis , jy vra my, ek het n ctek 250 laaier is my SW, en die NL battery monitor, alle groen liggies brand as ek in die oggend begin ry en soos hy vol word brand net 2 later. As jy stop dan gaan alle groen liggies dood na n ruk.

Maar ek het iewers dit gekry dat 12.9 volt 100% volgelaai is.
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Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:44 pm

Lollie, ek gebruik die dc-dc charger. As jy direk van die alternater af laai kan dit dalk so so werk, maar dan sal jy nie sommer al 4 groen liggies sien nie.
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Ek het vanmiddag my paneeltjie by Oom Manie bestel

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Na 'n lang gesels het ek besluit wat ek gaan doen met my krag stasie :D

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louis fourie wrote: Johan Are you talking about the Raylite Ultimate? Where can I get it?
Got an Exide Enduro 668AGM last week for cranking battery. Cheapest AGM on the market at only R1800 (Battery Centre) and identical to the Raylite Ultimate (i.e. First National Battery) . Should be better for corrugated roads in Kalahari. But AGMs do not like heat, so will see how it survives under the bonnet...
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Just recently bought a couple of 102 a/h Leisure batteries (First National), trade price R1200 ea. The guys at Battery Centre rate them highly, a medium cycle that you can use for cranking as well as running your camping lights / camping fridge etc.

For the past almost 2 weeks now, one has been running my household lights daily (12V system with LED lighting), and being charged with a single 80W solar panel. The LED's don't drain that much from the battery so even on a cloudy day the battery is again fully charged by mid-morning. (So wiill be adding more LED lighting to kitchen and lounge areas to provide brighter lighting if and when required.)

The real test will come when I couple up the second battery (with second panel) to an inverter to run TV, computer and router. I've set the controller to cut the load when the battery reaches 11.5V so as not to drain it too far and provide some protection. The inverter will obviously have to be connected directly to the battery and not directly to the controller, but the controller will operate a Cole Hirshe solenoid on the battery feed, much the same as a relay in your vehicle or 'contactor' on a 220V circuit.
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