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Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 12:28 pm
by Family_Dog
Bulldog has both a VHF and AM radio installed. I thouight it might be useful to show where I have installed them.

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The GX300 Mic is just lying loose, I have not yet fitted a Mic hang-Up clip. The VHF radio Mic is installed to the left of the speedometer housing.

Let's see some pics of how you have mounted your radios, it will be of use to those installing their radios for the first time.


-F_D

Re: Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 12:35 pm
by Dadz Toy BFI
My Gx300 is mounted in the same position as yours Oom, my mike clip is where your locker (?) switch is (above the handbrake lever) :wink:

Re: Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 12:42 pm
by Family_Dog
To quote a famous Cape-Tonian:

"So - where's the peekshas?"


-F_D

Re: Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 4:34 pm
by CasKru
Had the same idea as you Eric :)

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Re: Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 4:39 pm
by Dadz Toy BFI
Family_Dog wrote:To quote a famous Cape-Tonian:

"So - where's the peekshas?"


-F_D
See Peekchaz :mrgreen:

Re: Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 5:31 pm
by SuidWes
Was not sure where to mount the VHF but remembered that Thys mounted his dragon between the drivers seat and the centre pillar so I did the same.... Almost mounted it on the dash :crazy:

Re: Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 5:36 pm
by SuidWes
Eric, what are those buttons for on your VHF mic?

Re: Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 5:54 pm
by Family_Dog
SuidWes wrote:Eric, what are those buttons for on your VHF mic?
The radio has 5-tone signalling built in, so I can program the Mic buttons for various functions:

* Selectively call just one radio out of a fleet of, say 100 radios for a private conversation (the other 99 won't hear us)
* With suitable additional equipment, I can phone anyone, anywhere, using the Telkom network
* We use it to enable/disable individual Repeater slots for various users.


-F_D

Re: Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 5:57 pm
by Family_Dog
CasKru wrote:Had the same idea as you Eric :)

Cassie, did you remove the gear lock (or did your Hilux have a gear lock?? I was thinking of doing the same thing, I never use the gear lock anyway.


-F_D

Re: Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 6:19 pm
by Gertc
:cry: My VHF is still mounted in OOM ERIC se shop. :cry: :oops: :lol:

Re: Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 10:24 pm
by Leeu
Hi almal, 'n goeie vriend en kollega het my gehelp om 'n plaatjie te sny om my radio bo die speeltjie te installeer. Sal probeer om foto's te plaas. Groete Nico

Re: Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 11:02 pm
by Family_Dog
Gertc wrote::cry: My VHF is still mounted in OOM ERIC se shop. :cry: :oops: :lol:

So.... when are you coming to fetch it?... :mrgreen:


-F_D

Re: Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 11:19 pm
by ToyX4
Mine is also mounted on the floor between the seats, but will be in a roof console soon :D:

Re: Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 11:21 pm
by Gertc
I will write it on my xmas which list. From dad to dad. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 7:48 am
by CasKru
Family_Dog wrote:
CasKru wrote:Had the same idea as you Eric :)

Cassie, did you remove the gear lock (or did your Hilux have a gear lock?? I was thinking of doing the same thing, I never use the gear lock anyway.


-F_D
Uncle Eric, It never had one. So I designated that spot for the mic :)

I also ordered a roof console (the one Riaan posted about) and will be moving the radios into that. Just depending on the roofconsole after I modified it to fit the Lux (I think they are purpose built for the LC)

Re: Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 8:28 am
by Family_Dog
Cassie & Riaan, please use proper red/black autowire direct from the battery to the radio when you do the roof console. Riaan, if you need some, come fetch when you're next in town. Cassie, ditto!


-F_D

Re: Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 9:23 am
by Ramkat
Julle ouens moet bietjie by die scrapyards uitkom, dan gaan krap daar in die KZ-TE's en koop vir julle nuwe secondhand gearknobs soos hierdie.

Re: Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 10:48 am
by Mr_B
Ok... let's try again... 3G file uploads are messing me around again!

I installed my radio yesterday, there seems to pattern here...

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I made a steel plate to mount the plastic mount on top of.

B :thumbup:

Re: Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 11:17 am
by Dadz Toy BFI
That's neat Bretton, think I'll do the same (mine's secured with duct tape) :roll: :wink:

Ps... where did you mount your aerial and is it a compact or a full length :?: )

Re: Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 11:23 am
by Mr_B
Dadz Toy BFI wrote:That's neat Bretton, think I'll do the same (mine's secured with duct tape) :roll: :wink:

Ps... where did you mount your aerial and is it a compact or a full length :?: )

Aerial in mounted on the roll bar... the higher the better... it's a Webb full whip type...

My lux looks like a full scale remote control car! I'll post pics of the extended shackles soon as well...

B :thumbup:

Re: Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:04 am
by Scooter
snipes wrote: I made a steel plate to mount the plastic mount on top of.

B :thumbup:
Bretton, you do know you didn't have to remove the door handle to install the radio in between the seats :twisted: :twisted:

or was that just so you knew you had a handle on things :?: :lol:

Re: Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:11 am
by CasKru
Family_Dog wrote:Cassie & Riaan, please use proper red/black autowire direct from the battery to the radio when you do the roof console. Riaan, if you need some, come fetch when you're next in town. Cassie, ditto!


-F_D
Oom Eric, Can you give me the specs on the wire you are referring to? Maybe a pic? I bought some descent wire a while back when I was contemplating fixing the compressor somewhere in the bakkie but have not done this yet. This wire is red and black (as opposed to...?) ripcord style (if memory serves me correct) with a grey sleeve. If I remember correctly the wire is 1.5 or 2mm.

Re: Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:40 am
by Family_Dog
Cassie, John & Samantha are currently staying at the river cottage. I'll give them a few metres of R/B to take back for you, they also stay iewers in Benoni.


-F_D

Re: Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:43 am
by CasKru
Family_Dog wrote:Cassie, John & Samantha are currently staying at the river cottage. I'll give them a few metres of R/B to take back for you, they also stay iewers in Benoni.


-F_D
Eric.... If the phantoms dog dies, you're my new hero! :twisted: :twisted: Please send me the invoice with

Re: Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:25 pm
by Leeu
Hi, my installation.

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Re: Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:28 pm
by Leeu
Hi Guys, another photo.

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Re: Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:39 pm
by CasKru
Baie netjies... ek wag nou net vir my roof console dan gaan myne min of meer ook daar sit :)

Re: Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 8:16 pm
by Family_Dog
Nico, very neat! Where do the bracket mounting screws go, do you have a bracket or something above the roof liner?


-F_D

Re: Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 8:18 pm
by CasKru
Family_Dog wrote:Nico, very neat! Where do the bracket mounting screws go, do you have a bracket or something above the roof liner?


-F_D
Eric if you look very closely in his second pic, you will see what looks to be aluminium (or something similar) just above the plastic of his rear view mirror. A very neat job

Re: Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:01 pm
by Leeu
Hi Eric, thanks to Cassie I don't have to answer, we cut an aluminium plate and pop rivet the radio bracket onto the plate and screwed it onto the same screws as the rear view mirror. The only problem with this installation is I don't know where to install the mic bracket, currently the radio is off, I removed the mic and is in the cubby hole. Nico

Re: Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:10 pm
by Leeu
Hi Cassie, waar koop jy die roof console, ek het lank terug gesien by 'n winkel net verby Menlyn, kan nie die naam onthou nie, en was nogal duur. Kan jy my asb laat weet, die consoles sit mos vas op die skroewe van die liggie en tru speeltjie. Groete Nico

Re: Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:16 pm
by CasKru
Die roof console wat ons koop is eintlik bedoel vir 'n land cruiser. Ek gaan myne modify laat hy mooi vir die lux pas en dan kyk of el dalk 'n mould kan maak vir ons sin

Re: Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 10:07 pm
by ToyX4
CasKru wrote:Die roof console wat ons koop is eintlik bedoel vir 'n land cruiser. Ek gaan myne modify laat hy mooi vir die lux pas en dan kyk of el dalk 'n mould kan maak vir ons sin
Cassie, jy's reg. Hy is wel suksesvol in n Hilux in gesit. Ek dink hy is meer "universal" as spesifiek vir die Cruiser

Re: Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:28 am
by CasKru
ToyX4 wrote:
CasKru wrote:Die roof console wat ons koop is eintlik bedoel vir 'n land cruiser. Ek gaan myne modify laat hy mooi vir die lux pas en dan kyk of el dalk 'n mould kan maak vir ons sin
Cassie, jy's reg. Hy is wel suksesvol in n Hilux in gesit. Ek dink hy is meer "universal" as spesifiek vir die Cruiser
Jy sien... ek dink nie hy kan universal wees nie... .sal nie in 'n mini of Smart ForTwo pas nie :twisted:

Re: Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 3:45 pm
by Family_Dog
White Fang's two-way radios...
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The VHF radio in the background behind the GX300 is a remote-mount Motorola GM360 VHF Mobile radio. The actual body of the radio can be mounted either under the driver's seat or at the rear, behind the back rest of either a double cab or single cab.

The remote mount kit (only available for certain radios) is practically a 'must' for today's vehicles, which are not designed for practical accessories such as two-way radios like the older models were.


-F_D

Re: Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 9:10 pm
by Dadz Toy BFI
Leeu wrote:Hi, my installation.

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Very very neat :clap: :clap:

I might adopt your idea there Nico :wink:

Re: Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 11:27 pm
by Leeu
Hi Rich,

if you want I could trace the aluminium plate on a peice of paper and email to you, it is very easy to make and install. PM me to get my email adres. good day. Nico

Re: Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 9:02 am
by Blackadder
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I saw this neat little bracket for mounting two radios on a website the other day. Not sure if it is available locally.

Re: Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 10:19 am
by Family_Dog
Never seen this before, but it certainly does have merit.


-F_D

Re: Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 8:29 am
by CasKru
Blackadder wrote:
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I saw this neat little bracket for mounting two radios on a website the other day. Not sure if it is available locally.
But why would you want to mount two radios on a website? Just copy paste :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Re: Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 9:34 am
by Petrusd
Ek sien dat die bakkies se plek waar jy die radio insit verskil van mekaar.

In MrB se foto kan jy sien dat sy bakkie nog plek het onder sy radio - dit word `n double DIN genoem. Caskru en SuidWes se bakkies lyk soos myne - net plek vir een radio. Single DIN
Sal die double DIN eenheid in my bakkie pas sonder modifikasies?

As dit kan, dan soek ek `n double din "boksie".

Re: Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:44 am
by Family_Dog
Cassie, I think you need to change to a brand of coffee with less caffeine in it... ;) :lol:


-F_D

Re: Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 1:14 pm
by CasKru
Family_Dog wrote:Cassie, I think you need to change to a brand of coffee with less caffeine in it... ;) :lol:


-F_D
You mean unleaded?! :shock2: :shock2:

Re: Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 2:19 pm
by Hilux01
We had the VHF radios fitted at the begining of the month, new Motorola CM140 models with quater wave antenna (Zara 60) as F_D proposed. :thumbup:

Here the radio is fitted to the back of the centre console with the radio bracket

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The antenna cut to quater wave

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Re: Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 2:46 pm
by OOOOMS
Netjies Henk, maar jou radio is oppi verkeerde kanaal.... :tease: :tease: :tease:

Re: Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 2:52 pm
by Hilux01
Mark :lol:

Not a big problem, this model has a little button, plenty of channels to choose from :lmao:

Re: Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:35 pm
by OOOOMS
Handy to have your radio set to also be able to scan through all the channels :thumbup:

Re: Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:28 pm
by Family_Dog
Nice job, Henk! I've saved the antenna pic to use as an example ;)


-F_D

Re: Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:50 pm
by OOOOMS
Family_Dog wrote:Nice job, Henk! I've saved the antenna pic to use as an example ;)


-F_D
Eric......is that allowed.... :eh:

Re: Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:18 pm
by Hilux01
Mark still having a challenge to get the scan function working, any advise? :oops:

Eric, no problem! :thumbup:

Re: Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:27 pm
by OOOOMS
Hilux01 wrote:Mark still having a challenge to get the scan function working, any advise? :oops:

Eric, no problem! :thumbup:
Henk, not sure how the Moto works...sorry, perhaps the radio guru can help you out here :?:

Re: Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:38 pm
by Hilux01
Thanks Mark

Eric any advise?

Re: Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:46 am
by Family_Dog
Scanning needs to be activated when the radio is initially programmed. Most dealers (ourselves included) prefer not to activate this at it is not really necessary - has more nuisance value than anything else. In general, ORRA 1 is always the "Calling" channel (remember Ch 19 in the good ol' (bad ol'?) CB days. From there, one would pick a channel.

The only instance that we do activate scanning is for the Farmer's Mid Band (Burg. B) radios, where channel 2 is purely used as a calling channel and then any one (and only one) of the channels 3 - 8 is used as a "werks kanaal", or talk channel. In this case we do activate scanning on Ch 2 and the specific talk channel only, i.e. in our area it would be channels 2 & 4 only. We do not scan the other channels at all.


-F_D

Re: Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:29 am
by Dingo
Can't see Nico's pics, something wrong, but I have mounted my radio exactly the same. Made a little aluminium plate and fixed it behind the mirror using the mirror's fix holes. I've got a canopy on, so the rearview mirror does not get used and all i've done is drapped the mic around the mirror.

Will take some pics tonite.

Question - where is the best place to mount the aerial. I was thinking on the left hand side front fender close to the windscreen.

Re: Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:50 pm
by Family_Dog
Question - where is the best place to mount the aerial. I was thinking on the left hand side front fender close to the windscreen.
No!! Either on the roof, or on the rear (B or C) pillar, as high as feasible. Hope you can now see Henk's pic, that is how it ashould be done.


-F_D

Re: Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:27 am
by Lane
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Re: Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:47 am
by Dingo
Family_Dog wrote:
Question - where is the best place to mount the aerial. I was thinking on the left hand side front fender close to the windscreen.
No!! Either on the roof, or on the rear (B or C) pillar, as high as feasible. Hope you can now see Henk's pic, that is how it ashould be done.


-F_D
Thanx F_D

I see a lot of guys mount the arial on the front bullbar, is this not similar to mounting it onto the front fender.

I don't particually want to drill into my C pillar and feel that a fender is easier to replace / repair.

What would the issues be in fitting the arial to the fender compared to the C pillar / roof / bullbar??

Re: Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:54 pm
by Lane
I see a lot of guys mount the arial on the front bullbar, is this not similar to mounting it onto the front fender.

I don't particually want to drill into my C pillar and feel that a fender is easier to replace / repair.

What would the issues be in fitting the arial to the fender compared to the C pillar / roof / bullbar??
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i mounted mine on the front right fender.

Re: Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 3:45 pm
by Dingo
Hi Lane, without any issues / comprimise on reception / coverage distance / etc???

If I look at it one would loose about 1/2m in height compared to a C pillar mount and less than 1m on a roof mount.

Would that make a BIG difference on the reception?

Re: Mounting 2-Way Radios

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:15 pm
by Family_Dog
Mounting the antenna anywhere lower than roof height is a compromise. The bullbar is a convenient place to mount the antenna, but transmission will be somewhat directional. Ditto the fender mount. But if you are not worried about long-distance communications and only feel the need for convoy communications, it is acceptable.

Lane, if you have both the current ORRA frequencies programmed into your radio, you need to fit a quarter-wave antenna.


-F_D