The Kwagga II... KZTE on Steroids!

Mr_B · Post by **Mr_B** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:26 pm

After many years of serious off-roading, my buddy Craig(Kwagga on the forum) decided to tone it down and buy something a little more overlanding/work/play orientated... and the original Kwagga SFA was replaced with the Kwagga II KZTE...

After a few outing the serious off-roading bug bit again and the Kwagga II underwent a bit of a transformation...

Pictures say it better than words... and this is just the start!

I like!

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:32 pm

It's a looker for sure

Post by **Mud Dog** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 12:26 am

Next will be the SAS!

Post by **CasKru** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 6:07 am

Lyk netjies

Thabogrobler · Post by **Thabogrobler** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 7:16 am

Ifs or SFA?

Johannes van die See · Tue Mar 08, 2011 7:44 am

Blikemmer

Okay daar gaan my spaargeld!

Bretton, where did he have the Procomp suspension lift done?
Please PM me the details!

Traveler · Post by **Traveler** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 7:49 am

Bretton, that looks real good.

Compliments to the chef.

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:13 am

Johannes ek sal jou 33"s by jou oorneem as jy opgaan 35"s toe...

swartvark · Post by **swartvark** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:15 am

BAIE MOOI KWAGGA!!!!

2.8 d/cab SFA · Post by **2.8 d/cab SFA** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:29 am

awesome

Johannes van die See · Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:32 am

ThysdJ wrote:Johannes ek sal jou 33"s by jou oorneem as jy opgaan 35"s toe...

Ai Ai Ai

Thys

Ek voel soos n kind in n speelgoed winkel as ek die goed sien, nou reken ek, gaan vir die 10J beadlocks, sit n paar 35" bande op en doen die 4.55 dif ratio convertion, dan het ek mos nie probleme nie!

As dit eers alles gedoen is het ek niks meer loop op my 33" oor nie en ek gaan nie ou bande aand goeie man verkoop nie,

Come on Bretton, share some technical data with us, where, what and how much did it cost?

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:33 am

Johannes van die See wrote:As dit eers alles gedoen is het ek niks meer loop op my 33" oor nie en ek gaan nie ou bande aand goeie man verkoop nie,

Verkoop?? Wie het enigiets gese van verkoop??

Johannes van die See · Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:39 am

ThysdJ wrote:
Johannes van die See wrote:As dit eers alles gedoen is het ek niks meer loop op my 33" oor nie en ek gaan nie ou bande aand goeie man verkoop nie,
Verkoop?? Wie het enigiets gese van verkoop??

Nee okay ek check jou.

Mr_B · Post by **Mr_B** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:54 am

Johan, I'll try and get Craig to share some details...

legend35 · Post by **legend35** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 7:05 pm

That is very nice.

Derren · Post by **Derren** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:25 pm

Nice!!!

Tiger7 · Post by **Tiger7** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:43 pm

Baie netjies.

Mikie · Post by **Mikie** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 7:14 am

When my bakkie grows up it wants to be big like that one too

JJBotes · Post by **JJBotes** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:21 pm

Hope mine can look like that some day. Very NICE !!!

Cookie Monster · Post by **Cookie Monster** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:32 am

Looks Great!!!

Hoppy · Post by **Hoppy** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 11:05 am

OK, enough calls, we did;

a 3 inch body lift

Pro Comp 4 inch lift kit

3,66 diff ratio's swopped out with 4.55

35" Maxxis Bighorns

16x10" rims

We thought about a Solid axle swop, but this is a daily driver, it handles suprisingly well and stops much better with the IFs and it retained the ride quality.

jsrossouw · Post by **jsrossouw** » Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:28 am

Jislaaik, dis nou toevallig. Ek het gister van my stoel af geval toe ek die wielle met 'n bietjie bakkie bo-op gesien het op die forum en vandag ry die trokkie verby my oppad werk toe. Daar by cobble walks verby. Well done, nice trokkie.

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:26 am

Jip, mens kyk daai Kwagga moeilik mis in die verkeer.... dis die een wat die tipper trokke laat klein lyk...

KWAGGA · Post by **KWAGGA** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 9:18 am

I love my new KWAGGA II !!

The bakkie drives exceptionally well, pulls better than before simply because of the ratios. Amazing!

Stock standard KZTE engine. No need for performance mods.

See you guys around on the trails.

Craig

Johannes van die See · Sat Mar 19, 2011 11:08 am

Kwagga

How about some picks of the mods please, I'm very curious to know what exactly have been
done, what exactly is modified with a ProComp lift conversion, rear and front please.

The body lift is not an issue, easy job, but the rest?

Rear:
What shocks? Longer swing shackles? What blade springs? Was chassis suspension mountings extended?
Was the center bearing dropped?

Front:
Bolljoint lift? Swaybar convertion? Diff drop? Torsion bars? Shocks? Wishbones?

Basically I would like to know what exactly comes with a ProComp 4inch lift kit and what is changed.

Please Kwagga man, share your info, I like your IFS and would love to have my lux that high off mother earth.

Cheers

Johannes van die See · Sat Mar 19, 2011 11:15 am

Hoppy wrote:OK, enough calls, we did;

a 3 inch body lift

Pro Comp 4 inch lift kit

3,66 diff ratio's swopped out with 4.55

35" Maxxis Bighorns

16x10" rims

We thought about a Solid axle swop, but this is a daily driver, it handles suprisingly well and stops much better with the IFs and it retained the ride quality.

Allan

Whould the 2.7i diffs also have to be changed to 4.55?
I'm just wondering if diff ratio's are the same for the KZ and the 2.7i petrol?

KWAGGA · Post by **KWAGGA** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 5:37 pm

Hi there Johannes

My diffs were changed from 3.77 (I think) to 4.55 (2.7i) ratios. I am guessing that you would need to go lower still for the 2.7 to handle.

At the back the height is achieved through blocks and really long shocks. The front is were all the money is. There are various parts and brackets that are fitted to increase the distance between diff and engine. There are extra support arms etc. I will send some pics soon.

Alan (Hoppy) has all the detail of the conversion. All I can testify to is that it is awsome.

I drove a SFA for years with 35s etc. This vehicle is awsome from a comfort point of view and from a offroad point of view. I do believe that the SFA would be a bit more robust. But I am planning a locker in the front so that I can approach obstacles with some finesse. The ground clearance is supurb and the attack and departure angles are excellent. The articulation is not as much as the SFA, therefore the locker.

I look forward to Easter, we are doing attaquas and burchell's.

Hiluxtill I die · Post by **Hiluxtill I die** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 7:13 am

Hmmmmmmmmm........ thats what a Kzte should look like!

NicoP · Post by **NicoP** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 8:38 am

Johannes

Die 2.7 het 4.55 ratios in met die 33" sal jy na 4.88 to gaan. Ek het dit op my LUX en werk soos n droom

Kwagga daai kwaggaII lyk awsome well done

NicoP · Post by **NicoP** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 8:41 am

Craig

What is the size of the block. I also have blocks in the rear but now my handbrake doesnt work because the block is in the way of the handbrake lever on the drum.

Hoppy · Post by **Hoppy** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:17 am

The blocks are 4" or 100mm, the handbrake levers clears the springs, if you have smaller blocks, you can extend the arms that mount on the drums.

NicoP · Post by **NicoP** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 11:20 am

Thanks

I have 60mm blocks in. so i will try to extend the levers.

Johannes van die See · Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:53 am

NicoP wrote:Johannes

Die 2.7 het 4.55 ratios in met die 33" sal jy na 4.88 to gaan. Ek het dit op my LUX en werk soos n droom

Nico, dankie ek maak n nota hiervan.

NicoP wrote:Thanks

I have 60mm blocks in. so i will try to extend the levers.

Nico, kan jy dalk n foto post van die "blocks" waarvan julle praat, ek kan net nie die prentjie lekker
in my kop sien nie, asb man.

NicoP · Post by **NicoP** » Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:25 am

Hier is van hulle

Gunta · Post by **Gunta** » Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:39 am

What about axle tramp with those blocks and prop vibration because of the angle?

NicoP · Post by **NicoP** » Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:56 am

I had none of that problems. The prop vibrations that i do have is there since i bought the vehicle. Still need to find a decend propshaft place that can sort it out for me. I manage to live with it and just replace centre bearing every 6months

Johannes van die See · Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:33 pm

Nico
Baie dankie vir die fotos, nou is ek met julle manne.
Wat het jy voor gedoen om te lig, ook die procomp conversion of iets anders?
Fotos daarvan sal baie help ou pel, asb.

Gunta · Post by **Gunta** » Fri Apr 15, 2011 7:20 am

Nico, what you can do is put spacers between the chasis and the centre bearing and use longer bolts to drop the centre bearing down a bit. You will have to play with the spacers until the vibration stops. Best thing to use is washers until you get the right setup then you can make a solid spacer. That is the only way you will be able to save those bearings.

NicoP · Post by **NicoP** » Fri Apr 15, 2011 3:51 pm

Johannes hier is wat ek gedoen het.

viewtopic.php?f=93&t=14695" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Johannes van die See · Sun Jul 10, 2011 9:45 am

KWAGGA wrote:Hi there Johannes

My diffs were changed from 3.77 (I think) to 4.55 (2.7i) ratios. I am guessing that you would need to go lower still for the 2.7 to handle.

At the back the height is achieved through blocks and really long shocks.The front is were all the money is. There are various parts and brackets that are fitted to increase the distance between diff and engine. There are extra support arms etc. I will send some pics soon.

Alan (Hoppy) has all the detail of the conversion. All I can testify to is that it is awsome.

I drove a SFA for years with 35s etc. This vehicle is awsome from a comfort point of view and from a offroad point of view. I do believe that the SFA would be a bit more robust. But I am planning a locker in the front so that I can approach obstacles with some finesse. The ground clearance is supurb and the attack and departure angles are excellent. The articulation is not as much as the SFA, therefore the locker.

I look forward to Easter, we are doing attaquas and burchell's.

Kwagga, Mr. B, Hoppy

Can one of you confirm that the front suspension lift on this ifs was achieved by replacement of the following items.....

Component List
- Upper control arm spindle extentions
- Bump stop extentions
- Brake line and sway bar extentions
- Front diff drop down cross member and assembly
- Lower control arm rear brace support cross member
- Longer shocks

Allan, do you manufacture these parts yourself or was it all part of the Procomp 4" lift kit?

I had n good look at a similar 4" Lift kit and the parts don't look difficult to manufacture, it's just the geometry
that needs to be done right in order to prevent damage to steering & cv components.

Please confirm I'm on the right track.

jgduvenage · Post by **jgduvenage** » Sat Aug 13, 2011 8:42 am

Lyk leke rof!

Niel · Post by **Niel** » Sat Aug 13, 2011 8:51 am

Ek sien hy is te koop op gumtree

Hoppy · Post by **Hoppy** » Sat Aug 13, 2011 3:02 pm

The vehicle is for sale, he is buying a new hilux, apparently there are good deals availeble on pre facelift models.

Click on this link, will send more pics: viewtopic.php?f=129&t=20328" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Post by **Polarbear2008** » Sat Aug 13, 2011 9:21 pm

Very Nice!