rock crawling toyotas

rock solid · Post by **rock solid** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 9:11 pm

here are a few pics of my toyotas

my 1990 4runner with a solid front axle swap, 3rz conversion, dual transfercases, 4.88 gears locker in front, limited slip in the rear

my 1985 extra cab toyota 22re dual transfer cases with 4.7 t-case gears
locker front and rear on 37" mtr's

my 1990 toyota truck sas with a 4.5" lift

Post by **Mud Dog** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 9:20 pm

Looking awsome! .... (the vehicles, I mean

) .... all of them, but I especially like the 4Runner (Surf)

Great stuff! Keep us posted of your activities .... I'd also like to know more about the dual X-fer cases.

rock solid · Post by **rock solid** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 9:32 pm

what would u like to know on the dual t-cases?
im using marlin crawler mc-07 adaptors and also running his 4.7 t-case gears.
i built my own crossmember for high clearence

here is the center section that bolts to the back of the t-case

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:06 pm

Hey Philip! Welcome dude, I spent long hours on pirate4x4.com drooling over the crawling Hiluxes there. We need some 22RE EFI intake manifolds here in SA. Send on as many as you can lay your hands on..

Mr_B · Post by **Mr_B** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 11:40 pm

Ha ha... theres no hilux in the first pic... what model is she??

rock solid · Post by **rock solid** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 12:32 am

i can get my hands on alot of 22re intake manifolds, how compleate do u need them?

she is the ex-girlfriend model, 19 yrs old stuck up, but likes the snow

rock solid · Post by **rock solid** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 2:19 am

my old 1979 toyota with a custom 3 link rear suspension with triple t-cases on 35" interco boggers

Post by **Mud Dog** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 2:51 am

I like!

rock solid · Post by **rock solid** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:07 am

i have a bunch more, but photobucket isnt resizing them, so they wont upload

Post by **Mud Dog** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 4:38 am

There are some freeware re-sizing tools available (there's a link here somewhere to one). Re-size them yourself and upload direct off your drive.

Found it ....... http://semigeek.wordpress.com/dropresize/

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:32 am

rock solid wrote:i can get my hands on alot of 22re intake manifolds, how compleate do u need them?

Philip, I dont personally need the 22RE manifolds but there are a few other guys (Toyx4 etc) on the forum that would bend your arm for them and they could explain exactly what they need. I might ask you for some other stuff, but we'll cross that bridge when we get to it...

Good to have you on board

rock solid · Post by **rock solid** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:38 am

sounds good.
how do u like the 7mge in your truck, ive got an mk3 supra that i might pull the motor out for a desert racing prerunner. i put a 7mgte into a buddys 86 truck, it was a blast to drive

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:49 am

I really enjoy the 7MGE, it gives ample power for and is super reliable so far. It makes the Hilux much more responsive on the road as well. in South Africa we are not as spoilt for choice as you guys inthe US. Until about 10 years ago we could only choose between 4Y and 22R and 2.8 diesel motors in our 4x4 Hiluxes. We had to make do with what we could lay our hands on... Nowadays things have changed though, and more and more high performance motors are available.

rock solid · Post by **rock solid** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:15 am

ive been reading alot on this 4y, is it gas or diesil?
how many literes?

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:33 am

2.2 litre gas engine..

Mr_B · Post by **Mr_B** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:02 am

The humble 4Y is a 2.2L gasonline donkey in std format... good for about 68kw and 160nm torque... which is honestly far too little power of the heavy chassis+body+running gear of the SFA/4Runner... even the 22R 2.4L is underpowered... to get a little more out these straight 4's we fuel inject them, fit a stage 1 performance cam, freeflow exhaust and do a cold air induction mod... that raises the output to 80 to 90kw(mod/tuning dependant) and around 200nm torque... again it's not major power, but it's enough to get the hilux going much better...

The 2.4 22R intake manifold are extremely scares in SA and many guys would love to EFi there 2.4s... hence why we ask if you could get the intakes in USA...

The guys with more finance available do the following engine conversion here is SA(from the 2.2 and 2.4):

Toyota engines:
- 2.7i 3RZ
- 7MGE / GTE... straight 6 ... more so the non turbo version
- 2JZ... new generation straight 6... with/without VVT... Spartans fav...
- 5VZ... 3.4 V6... this engine was only available in the local Prado
- Lexus V8... a lovely engine... but in SA this is an expensive option... with lots of power!

Other engines:
- Ford V6 3L... not that popular anymore...
- Ford 302 V8... Ewald did this conversion recently
- Chev 350 V8...
- Mazda 2.5 turbo diesel... mainly for the guys interested in overlanding... where fuel consumption is a major priority

mr b

zepplin · Post by **zepplin** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 2:07 pm

Phillip,

I've just finished a EFI conversion on my 22R. The intake I got through EBay was quite complete but essentially the following would be needed;

Intake manifold -upper & lower (accelerator cable bracket on plenum),

Fuel rail - preferably with injectors (we can get aftermarket injectors here but pricey),

Fuel pressure regulator,

Throttle body (with or without TPS. Our ECU's here can do without),

Air intake pipe (between aircleaner & throttle body).

Original thermostat top housing.

Thats pretty much it.

There are a heap of guys on this forum alone who are looking to do this mod but the intakes are non existant here. The 22R never came out here with fuel injection and it was produced here up to 1998!

Prices if you can please

rock solid · Post by **rock solid** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:03 pm

more of my 79 yota

and my buddys 89 yota

Post by **Mud Dog** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:38 pm

I see you removed the shocks (dampers) for better articulation ..... love those tyres!!

rock solid · Post by **rock solid** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:02 pm

not removed, just didnt have any shocks on it yet
those pics are from 5 yrs ago.
that was my first rock crawling toyota.

rock solid · Post by **rock solid** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:08 pm

here are some pics from our last big trip out.
it was the 2009 colorado 4runner jamboree.

rock solid · Post by **rock solid** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:09 pm

more

Post by **Mud Dog** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:30 pm

That black machine is looking awsome! .... like a pipe-car / Yota hybrid!

rock solid · Post by **rock solid** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:41 pm

its a truggy, it started life as a 1985 toyota 4runner.
still has the 22re/w56/dual t-cases with 4.7's
lockers front and rear with 5.29 gears on 42" tires
we just finished converting the steering to full hydo
using an orbital valve off a john deere loader.

Post by **Mud Dog** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:53 pm

It's amazing that the drive-train can handle those big wheels! Have you snapped any half-shafts yet?

rock solid · Post by **rock solid** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 12:05 am

half shafts?
rear axle shafts are stock
front axles(birfields) are from bobby long chromoly 31 spline(http://www.longfieldsuperaxles.com/)
the drive shafts are 6.35mm square tubing with stock toyota u-joints

anthonyhugo · Post by **anthonyhugo** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:27 am

WOW!!! that's insane, one day when i grow up i also want one!!! :)

Post by **Mammabeer** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:53 am

Nice pics....Good to see another rock crawling fanatic!

GeorgeJvR · Post by **GeorgeJvR** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 7:35 am

If only i can win this dam lotto

rock solid · Post by **rock solid** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 6:36 pm

i would love to win the lotto and import a double cab

Post by **Mud Dog** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 7:15 pm

Yeah, I don't understand why this was'nt a more widely marketed body. I find the D/C to be very versatile, family in the front, kit in the back, everyone's happy and off you go on your travels / trails.

rock solid · Post by **rock solid** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 8:02 am

this is our shop where we build our trucks

rock solid · Post by **rock solid** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 8:21 am

inside the shop

from the loft

rock solid · Post by **rock solid** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 8:35 am

christmas truck decorations last year

Post by **Mud Dog** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:38 am

Some kid wakes up early on Xmas morning, looks out his window and sees you in that Lux on your way to the shops to get something important you may have forgotten, before your own kids wake up. That kid will really think he saw Santa passing by.

rock solid · Post by **rock solid** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:15 pm

they might wonder where are the reindeer...

rock solid · Post by **rock solid** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:28 pm

triple transfer cases... excessive?

nope, not at all

Harm JR. · Post by **Harm JR.** » Sat Mar 03, 2012 4:58 pm

rock solid wrote:inside the shop

from the loft

what engine is in this one???

Post by **Mud Dog** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:13 am

22RE .... 2.4 petrol fuel injection.

THROTTLE-BOY · Post by **THROTTLE-BOY** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:29 am

Like Your work....theres nothing like Crawling a Toyota ! Build it and wheel it......I hate Mall Rats !

Harm JR. · Post by **Harm JR.** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:49 pm

Mud Dog wrote:22RE .... 2.4 petrol fuel injection.

does it do alotta good for crawling????

Post by **LouisZ** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:05 pm

Am I right to say Philip in the US you guys like to go to the Extreme with the 22RE engines? It is just amazing what the US guys do with those engines.

Post by **Mud Dog** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:48 am

The 22R is something like the 4Y .... completely adequate in standard form although very thirsty.

Yep, it's awesome what can be achieved with both those motors, but usually the power band is drastically altered with the 'doctored, motors, delivering some unbelievable HP higher up in the rev range but at the expense of low rev torque. So for general off-road use I would say it's best to leave it standard, just add fuel injection if it doesn't have. For crawling one would have dual / triple X-fer boxes or a crawler box fitted which brings the gearing so low that low rev torque is no longer an issue.

Harm JR. · Post by **Harm JR.** » Sat Mar 17, 2012 1:42 pm

does anybody know why i cant post a new topic???

Post by **Mud Dog** » Sat Mar 17, 2012 3:08 pm

Harm JR. wrote:does anybody know why i cant post a new topic???

See here.