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New to SA, new to the forum
Hi everyone,
I moved to South Africa a year or so ago with my South African wife, although I am originally from the US. We are very keen on doing some overlanding trips over the next couple of years before we have kids so I've been looking around at vehicles. I still haven't found the vehicle that's right for us yet but I've been convinced that a Hilux is the way to go. I figured there must be a community like this out there somewhere and I'm excited to have found it. I look forward to reading all of your trip advice and figuring out where the best places to go are. I already know the best way to get there is in a Hilux!
A couple of questions:
1. How long can these vehicles last and still be reliable?
2. Our budget isn't huge (under R200k for vehicle and equipment hopefully). What can I realistically expect to find in that price range?
3. Are there any good books out there to read in order to help prepare us for our trips?
4. Once I get a vehicle, I'd be very interested in taking courses on a. how to drive it and b. how to repair it in the field if something goes wrong. We currently live in Joburg. Any suggestions?
Really looking forward to engaging in this community.
Josh
I moved to South Africa a year or so ago with my South African wife, although I am originally from the US. We are very keen on doing some overlanding trips over the next couple of years before we have kids so I've been looking around at vehicles. I still haven't found the vehicle that's right for us yet but I've been convinced that a Hilux is the way to go. I figured there must be a community like this out there somewhere and I'm excited to have found it. I look forward to reading all of your trip advice and figuring out where the best places to go are. I already know the best way to get there is in a Hilux!
A couple of questions:
1. How long can these vehicles last and still be reliable?
2. Our budget isn't huge (under R200k for vehicle and equipment hopefully). What can I realistically expect to find in that price range?
3. Are there any good books out there to read in order to help prepare us for our trips?
4. Once I get a vehicle, I'd be very interested in taking courses on a. how to drive it and b. how to repair it in the field if something goes wrong. We currently live in Joburg. Any suggestions?
Really looking forward to engaging in this community.
Josh
- mcw
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Re: New to SA, new to the forum
Hi Josh
welcome to forum and South Africa ,enjoy the madness ,it grows on you ,
there is a article somewhere on the forum about different hiluxes available in Sourthern Africa ,someone will point you to it .
I have a 1996 Dbl Cab Bakkie with canopy +4500000 km traveled ,still going strong,feel comfortable with it to go anywhere in Africa
lots of trip report on this and other forums about places to travels to
join the Hilux club and come with us on day and weekend trails ,learn from others in group
Martin
welcome to forum and South Africa ,enjoy the madness ,it grows on you ,
there is a article somewhere on the forum about different hiluxes available in Sourthern Africa ,someone will point you to it .
I have a 1996 Dbl Cab Bakkie with canopy +4500000 km traveled ,still going strong,feel comfortable with it to go anywhere in Africa
lots of trip report on this and other forums about places to travels to
join the Hilux club and come with us on day and weekend trails ,learn from others in group
Martin
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Re: New to SA, new to the forum
Welcome
Depends on how you camp, but I'd say with your budget you could look at the IFS types like the 3.0 KZTE or 2700i which could set you back as much as R160k depending on year, condition & extras. One could get the newer Vigo shape (2.5 or 2.0 D4D or 2700i) for under R200k but generally they have more than 200 000km on the clock. Just be weary when looking at the diesel models, the KZTE needs a head replacement at 200k km's and the D4D is notorious for injectors around the same mileage so just factor in those costs
Like Martin I also drive the older shape, mine is a 1998 LTD edition 2.4 petrol. Tough as nails but not as comfortable; later models can fetch up to R110k
There are plenty threads on the forum discussing all of the above in more detail, as far as equipment goes look in the overlanding section for some advice
Depends on how you camp, but I'd say with your budget you could look at the IFS types like the 3.0 KZTE or 2700i which could set you back as much as R160k depending on year, condition & extras. One could get the newer Vigo shape (2.5 or 2.0 D4D or 2700i) for under R200k but generally they have more than 200 000km on the clock. Just be weary when looking at the diesel models, the KZTE needs a head replacement at 200k km's and the D4D is notorious for injectors around the same mileage so just factor in those costs
Like Martin I also drive the older shape, mine is a 1998 LTD edition 2.4 petrol. Tough as nails but not as comfortable; later models can fetch up to R110k
There are plenty threads on the forum discussing all of the above in more detail, as far as equipment goes look in the overlanding section for some advice
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Re: New to SA, new to the forum
Howzit Josh
I see Stef forgot to mention the V6 4.0L Vigo hilux lots of power and the same consumption as the 2.7L. When buying make sure of a service history. If you get a Hilux that has been properly maintained and not abused you will get plenty of happy Miles.
The thread that Martin refers to as to the different type of Hilux is in the club portion of the website. Join the club at R160 per year and you will also have access to manuals as well. The best way to get to know your truck will be to use it so once you have one come join us on trips.
Here is a face book link you might want to keep your eye on
https://www.facebook.com/groups/4x4koop ... 9930444095" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; just ask your wife to translate LOL
I see Stef forgot to mention the V6 4.0L Vigo hilux lots of power and the same consumption as the 2.7L. When buying make sure of a service history. If you get a Hilux that has been properly maintained and not abused you will get plenty of happy Miles.
The thread that Martin refers to as to the different type of Hilux is in the club portion of the website. Join the club at R160 per year and you will also have access to manuals as well. The best way to get to know your truck will be to use it so once you have one come join us on trips.
Here is a face book link you might want to keep your eye on
https://www.facebook.com/groups/4x4koop ... 9930444095" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; just ask your wife to translate LOL
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Re: New to SA, new to the forum
I'm secretly looking for one as wellObelix and Dogmatix wrote:
I see Stef forgot to mention the V6 4.0L Vigo hilux lots of power and the same consumption as the 2.7L.
Seriously though I did forget...definitely a much better buy than the 2700i
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Re: New to SA, new to the forum
Welcome Josh!
Well first off I am biased towards the old pre '98 models, but in all fairness it is with good reason. These are notoriously tough and achieve unbelievably high mileages, especially when reasonably well maintained. Their ruggedness in the rough is legendary, you will be hard pressed to find an equal. Being older vehicles they are not crammed with electronic gadgetry which may arguably contribute towards its already superb reliability, but also makes it easier to do a repair in the styx if it's required.
Of course another nice thing is that you can pick one up at a far better price than the later models, spares are still available for the most part and are generally more reasonably priced than those of more current models.
There's a beautiful, almost fully equipped IFS model (also reliable) advertised here viewtopic.php?f=129&t=41805" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (It's a bargain at the price!) and another one here viewtopic.php?f=129&t=41852&p=491487#p491487" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
There are plenty trip reports and travel advice on this forum, just do a search using key words like "Namibia", "Botswana" (or "Bots"), "Angola", "Mozambique" (or Moz"), "Serengetti", "Malawi", .... etc. There are also a number of travel magazines that you can choose from, but generally they advertise the more 'commercial' routes / venues.
Good luck with your endeavours, any questions, just ask.
Well first off I am biased towards the old pre '98 models, but in all fairness it is with good reason. These are notoriously tough and achieve unbelievably high mileages, especially when reasonably well maintained. Their ruggedness in the rough is legendary, you will be hard pressed to find an equal. Being older vehicles they are not crammed with electronic gadgetry which may arguably contribute towards its already superb reliability, but also makes it easier to do a repair in the styx if it's required.
Of course another nice thing is that you can pick one up at a far better price than the later models, spares are still available for the most part and are generally more reasonably priced than those of more current models.
There's a beautiful, almost fully equipped IFS model (also reliable) advertised here viewtopic.php?f=129&t=41805" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (It's a bargain at the price!) and another one here viewtopic.php?f=129&t=41852&p=491487#p491487" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
There are plenty trip reports and travel advice on this forum, just do a search using key words like "Namibia", "Botswana" (or "Bots"), "Angola", "Mozambique" (or Moz"), "Serengetti", "Malawi", .... etc. There are also a number of travel magazines that you can choose from, but generally they advertise the more 'commercial' routes / venues.
Good luck with your endeavours, any questions, just ask.
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Life is like a jar of Jalapeño peppers ... what you do today, might burn your ass tomorrow.
Don't take life too seriously ..... no-one gets out alive.
It's not about waiting for storms to pass. It's about learning to dance in the rain.
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Re: New to SA, new to the forum
Hi everyone,
Thanks for all of the replies, especially for the recommendations about which truck to look for. I think the past few days have been some of my most unproductive at work as I browse the travel destinations of the forum and dream about being in the bush rather than in the Sandton grind.
I appreciate the advice on the mileage. I wasn't sure if it is worth the investment to get a truck with >250,000 km on the clock but from what I read here, as long as they have been well maintained they are definitely worth it and will provide years of fun.
As soon as I get a vehicle locked down I will definitely be joining on the trails. So long as you don't mind a beginner who only speaks English...
Thanks for all of the replies, especially for the recommendations about which truck to look for. I think the past few days have been some of my most unproductive at work as I browse the travel destinations of the forum and dream about being in the bush rather than in the Sandton grind.
I appreciate the advice on the mileage. I wasn't sure if it is worth the investment to get a truck with >250,000 km on the clock but from what I read here, as long as they have been well maintained they are definitely worth it and will provide years of fun.
As soon as I get a vehicle locked down I will definitely be joining on the trails. So long as you don't mind a beginner who only speaks English...
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Re: New to SA, new to the forum
The guys up your way will be only too happy to have you join them on outings and show you the ropes. You will also find your mother tongue to be a more than adequate means of communication.
When your road comes to an end ...... you need a HILUX!.
Life is like a jar of Jalapeño peppers ... what you do today, might burn your ass tomorrow.
Don't take life too seriously ..... no-one gets out alive.
It's not about waiting for storms to pass. It's about learning to dance in the rain.
And be yourself ..... everyone else is taken!
Life is like a jar of Jalapeño peppers ... what you do today, might burn your ass tomorrow.
Don't take life too seriously ..... no-one gets out alive.
It's not about waiting for storms to pass. It's about learning to dance in the rain.
And be yourself ..... everyone else is taken!
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Re: New to SA, new to the forum
Welcome to SA and the forum
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Re: New to SA, new to the forum
Welcome Josh!!