How to spot a LTD SFA hilux

GeorgeJvR · Post by **GeorgeJvR** » Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:53 pm

B/Bar, Mags, Strepe, warn M8000 winch.

Sidesteps

T/Bar
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Can some one help with the interior details?

Stef · Post by **Stef** » Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:00 pm

....Semi leather seats, LTD logo printed on seat/door material, LTD logo embossed in headrests...

GeorgeJvR · Post by **GeorgeJvR** » Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:10 pm

2.8 d/cab SFA · Post by **2.8 d/cab SFA** » Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:17 pm

semi leather seats with modern tazz cloth inserts, chrome decals on the back, and side pillers, steel rock sliders, like the pic but bullbar diffrent on mine

(and my registration papers has it on when first registered in 1998

GeorgeJvR · Post by **GeorgeJvR** » Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:30 pm

Post by **Mud Dog** » Mon Feb 07, 2011 6:04 pm

Eish John, I'm not sure that's a LTD .... looks like a Raider with LTD mags. Hmmmmm .....

Did the LTD have any other motor options besides the 22R? Were they available in diesel?

The obvious things were the integrated bull bar / bumper with 8000lb warn winch. The tubular rocksliders with cut-away tread panels, the staggered tubular rear bumper and the mags.

Windows were lightly tinted glass except for the front windshield which only had a tinted strip on top. Rear cab-slider was standard AFAIK.

The embossed head-rest ...

The logo in the seat material with leather side panels ....

The LTD logo in the door panel material ...

Immobilizer and diff lock .....

Encircled items .... The gauges are obviously fitted aftermarket in the ashtray compartment and I'm not sure, but suspect that the switch under the lighter and the freezer temp gauge were also.

Air-con is standard but the Clinometer is aftermarket.

Centre console standard .....

Door pouches were standard on a lot of models, but also on the LTD ....

General interior view.

I seem to think that the LTD's were fitted with 150mm stainless steel Warn spots .....

My side decal has "Hilux" only, no "LTD"

My side stickers were replaced since the vehicle was re-sprayed, not sure if they are the genuine sticker or have been made up. They do however resemble the original very closely if they are not OEM The tail end had the LTD logo in it.

The tail gate has a LTD logo in a 'dome sticker' ..... much like the club sticker. Doubt that it's OEM (after the re-spray).

The staggered tube rear bumper. The tow hitch is 'high level' .... no drop-plate. I also noticed that other LTD's have a similar exhaust tail piece.

Zantus · Post by **Zantus** » Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:12 pm

That 2.8TD is not a limited, it a normal 2.8TD Raider

There was no 2.8D or 2.8TD limited unless someone special ordered it, but it was never advertised like that.

GeorgeJvR · Post by **GeorgeJvR** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:46 am

Thanks Andy

Now we just need to convince 2.8 d/cab SFA
to sell us his mags

Stef · Post by **Stef** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:04 am

Ditto Andy....

All the circled items are definitely aftermarket. As for the diff lock switch, it's same on '97 Raider onwards.
That centre console bugs me a bit..mine is the "flat" one, doesn't have the IFS type box between the seats

2.8 d/cab SFA · Post by **2.8 d/cab SFA** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:16 am

ok must admit then i dont have the LTD on the door panels, but has the same design material, or head rests. Bumper at back the tubular, mine does not have LTD decals but has chrome style hilux and 2.8. Mine was ordered with the sac turbo from toyota, still has the sac sticker in the engine bay with fitment details. Has the gear max diff lock and imobilisor as shown, does not have those gauges, so then not LTD if they did not make them in diesal, mmmmmm,

GeorgeJvR · Post by **GeorgeJvR** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:49 am

Stef wrote:Ditto Andy....

All the circled items are definitely aftermarket. As for the diff lock switch, it's same on '97 Raider onwards.
That centre console bugs me a bit..mine is the "flat" one, doesn't have the IFS type box between the seats

Mine 2

GeorgeJvR · Post by **GeorgeJvR** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:51 am

2.8 d/cab SFA wrote:ok must admit then i dont have the LTD on the door panels, but has the same design material, or head rests. Bumper at back the tubular, mine does not have LTD decals but has chrome style hilux and 2.8. Mine was ordered with the sac turbo from toyota, still has the sac sticker in the engine bay with fitment details. Has the gear max diff lock and imobilisor as shown, does not have those gauges, so then not LTD if they did not make them in diesal, mmmmmm,

So want to sell your rims and buy the STD ones

Post by **Mud Dog** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:37 am

Stef wrote:Ditto Andy....

All the circled items are definitely aftermarket. As for the diff lock switch, it's same on '97 Raider onwards.
That centre console bugs me a bit..mine is the "flat" one, doesn't have the IFS type box between the seats

Mine 2

Mine must have been changed. Post a pic!

2.8 d/cab SFA · Post by **2.8 d/cab SFA** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:43 am

everything has a price, but like said like to keep my hilux original, that why even kept 31 bf mud and didnt go for the bigger tyres and mags. mmmm arb front bumper to swap? Oh i checked 4 mags not five,

would have bet money i had 5

GeorgeJvR · Post by **GeorgeJvR** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:53 am

Try and fit the spare then let me know it worked.
Don't want to get stuck with a spare but with out nuts to use.

Post by **Mud Dog** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:34 am

John, Perhaps George and I (and maybe another two LTD owners that are interested) can club together and buy you a nice set of replacement mags. Up to you.

We could split the cost 4 ways if there are 4 guys that need.

GeorgeJvR · Post by **GeorgeJvR** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:42 am

Stef · Post by **Stef** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:05 am

Mud Dog wrote:John, Perhaps George and I (and maybe another two LTD owners that are interested) can club together and buy you a nice set of replacement mags. Up to you. We could split the cost 4 ways if there are 4 guys that need.

I only have 1 LTD mag I think, the spare....thus I would need 4

Mud Dog wrote:
Mine 2
Mine must have been changed. Post a pic!

More than likely, but not bad looking though

will post a pic tomorrow, bakkie is at home.

Post by **Mud Dog** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:07 am

I only have 1 LTD mag I think, the spare....thus I would need 4

Maybe I can buy off you or replace with similar to what you have?

Stef · Post by **Stef** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:36 am

Mud Dog wrote:Maybe I can buy off you or replace with similar to what you have?

If we can find the same as what I have, we can make a plan

Haven't seen any like it thus far.

GeorgeJvR · Post by **GeorgeJvR** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:50 am

Post the pic of the LTD mag and the Aftermarket mag and who knows maybe Andy or myself can get lucky.

What do you say?

Stef · Post by **Stef** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 12:21 pm

will get a close-up 2day, post 2morrow

Post by **Mud Dog** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 2:38 pm

GeorgeJvR wrote:Post the pic of the LTD mag and the Aftermarket mag and who knows maybe Andy or myself can get lucky.
What do you say?

Hey George! I called first!

GeorgeJvR · Post by **GeorgeJvR** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 2:41 pm

Mud Dog wrote:
GeorgeJvR wrote:Post the pic of the LTD mag and the Aftermarket mag and who knows maybe Andy or myself can get lucky.
What do you say?
Hey George! I called first!

Yes you did

But who knows maybe i can find him a mag and you can't then what???

Don't stress you first

Post by **Mud Dog** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:51 pm

If I can't source one, then it's your turn.

bosjakkals · Post by **bosjakkals** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:03 pm

Die hand wat onder my bakkie se towbar le is groter :wink2: Maak dit hom n LTD

Post by **Mud Dog** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 1:08 am

bosjakkals wrote:Die hand wat onder my bakkie se towbar le is groter :wink2: Maak dit hom n LTD

Wat, die hond of die bakkie?

Ja wat, sy (dis 'n teef) is nie een van die wat ek self geteël het nie en sy's maklik 15 tot 20 kg ligter as die ander teef, maar sy het 'n baie gooie geaardheid teenoor ons maar is vreeslik beskermend oor ons en ons werf. Ons hou haar maar.

Stef · Post by **Stef** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:04 am

So this is a close-up of the rim (Groenkloof style

)

The "centre console"

Post by **Mud Dog** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:38 am

Nice rim, very unusual. Will check out the local dealers.

2.8 d/cab SFA · Post by **2.8 d/cab SFA** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:40 am

my interior,

Stef · Post by **Stef** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:09 am

As requested:

The brand I have:

Post by **Mud Dog** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:21 am

Yep, that's the one!

GeorgeJvR · Post by **GeorgeJvR** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:40 am

Post by **LouisZ** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:53 pm

Het die Ltd ook nie 'n groter hooftank gehad nie?

Stef · Post by **Stef** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:22 pm

80 liter ja, maar ek dink amper die '97 Raiders was ook 80 liter

bosjakkals · Post by **bosjakkals** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:51 pm

Is die 97 modelle se tank so n sqaure gesweisde tank ? (80 lit)

Stef · Post by **Stef** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:11 pm

So onderstebo L-vormig op die LTD, kon nie my tjomma in die hande kry om te vra oor sy '97 nie, maar sover ek onthou het hy gesê syne is dieselfde.

Mr_B · Post by **Mr_B** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:20 pm

Are you guys starting a LTD club within the Hilux club?

Stef · Post by **Stef** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:22 pm

Mr_B wrote:Are you guys starting a LTD club within the Hilux club?

You've done it for 4x2's....

Mr_B · Post by **Mr_B** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:37 pm

Yes and there's the elitist clubs of 7MGE's, LexusV8's and 4Y EFi's!

I just hate feeling left out... I'm going to get Thys to make a LTD sticker for my 87' SFA... Bolt!

Then I can play in the LTD sand pit!

Post by **george** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:47 pm

Mr_B wrote:Yes and there's the elitist clubs of 7MGE's, LexusV8's and 4Y EFi's!

I just hate feeling left out... I'm going to get Thys to make a LTD sticker for my 87' SFA... Bolt!

Then I can play in the LTD sand pit!

Start an EFI club

Lane · Post by **Lane** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:10 pm

Stef wrote:So onderstebo L-vormig op die LTD, kon nie my tjomma in die hande kry om te vra oor sy '97 nie, maar sover ek onthou het hy gesê syne is dieselfde.

ive got a 97 model and just had a look at the tank it has a rectangular tank which holds about 60l.

Stef · Post by **Stef** » Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:51 am

Lane wrote:
Stef wrote:So onderstebo L-vormig op die LTD, kon nie my tjomma in die hande kry om te vra oor sy '97 nie, maar sover ek onthou het hy gesê syne is dieselfde.
ive got a 97 model and just had a look at the tank it has a rectangular tank which holds about 60l.

Just spoke to me friend....his '97 Raider holds 65l, plain rectangular tank.

Stef · Post by **Stef** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:00 pm

Another way to spot a LTD...removable winch plate

Post by **Mud Dog** » Sun Feb 20, 2011 12:45 am

Huh!!?? Now I'm learning something too! ..... Never looked closely enough, just assumed that it was one piece with the bumper. Actually thought about it though, how to get the winch out for servicing .... again, just assumed that the whole bumper would have to come off.

That's actually a nifty idea!

Post by **Royco** » Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:13 pm

Does the LTD also come standard with the towbar on the Bullbar?
Mine had one there, and I thought the previous owner had it added, but seeing it on your pic, Stef, in exactly the same place on the bullbar, makes me wonder...

Stef · Post by **Stef** » Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:34 am

Royco wrote:Does the LTD also come standard with the towbar on the Bullbar?
Mine had one there, and I thought the previous owner had it added, but seeing it on your pic, Stef, in exactly the same place on the bullbar, makes me wonder...

Also thought it was added afterwards

but the bumper is not strong enough really, there is a slight dent in mine already.

Mud Dog wrote:... again, just assumed that the whole bumper would have to come off. That's actually a nifty idea!

Same here, was about to strip the bumper off completely; started looking at the mounts when I noticed the 4 big bolts and no weldeing seems. The winch plate is u-shaped to help distribute load. I also removed 2 of the fairlead rollers to pull the hook through; need to lube them anyway.
BTW, if you want to remove the bumper, you'll have to remove the winch first; there's 2 bolts either side on the front, of which only the bottom ones are reachable.

Post by **Mud Dog** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:28 pm

How to spot a LTD SFA hilux

Post by **Royco** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:26 am

Nice one!!

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:34 pm

you missed a spot Andy...

NardusJVR · Post by **NardusJVR** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 1:59 pm

die is nou regtig n hoek vi die spotters!