Dakar 2012

Post by **CasKru** » Tue Jan 03, 2012 9:17 am

For those that are following the Dakar and might have missed the updates.... The two South African Hilux's entered are currently in 4th and 18th overall. They are 3m49s and 38m33s behind the leaders respectively.

Go Hilux!!!!

Post by **pietpetoors** » Tue Jan 03, 2012 9:17 pm

I see the Mini's are doing surprisingly well and there even is a GWM in 11th position at the moment

Post by **FIRSTGEER** » Tue Jan 03, 2012 9:26 pm

Go Boys Go.Im confident that our proudly South African luxes will do us proud.Maybe the GWM will also close a few local negative mouths, time and kilos will tell !!!!!!

Post by **pietpetoors** » Tue Jan 03, 2012 9:40 pm

time and kilos will tell !!!!!!

for sure ! and experience

Post by **Mud Dog** » Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:06 pm

From here on is where it gets a little more challenging and interesting. Really hoping our guys do well!

Post by **CasKru** » Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:39 am

Seems they are now 3rd overall :)

Post by **CasKru** » Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:48 am

Rebel 4x4 · Post by **Rebel 4x4** » Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:44 am

Ek sien Touareg glad nie in is hierdie jaar nie? Is dit die rede hoekom de Villiers oor Toyota toe is?

Post by **pietpetoors** » Wed Jan 04, 2012 10:01 am

Ja, nogal gewonder wat van die Volksies geword het. Is dalk dit, of 'n man gaan jaag waar jy die beste kontrak kry met die beste voertuig.

Interresant, ek sien daai Mini's wat so lekker jaag het diesel engine in, die BMW 3 liter turbo diesel met twin turbo.

Post by **CasKru** » Wed Jan 04, 2012 10:11 am

VW het onttrek van die jaar se kompetisie ja.

All in all is daar 3 Suid Afrikaans geboude Hiluxe in die resies. Hulle is onderskeidelik die 3de, 8ste en 13de plekke

arnize2 · Post by **arnize2** » Wed Jan 04, 2012 10:34 am

What is interesting is that the commentator is constantly referring to the SA Hilux as "underdeveloped." I presume in the context of the Dakar, they might be. That makes their positions very impressive. Geniel himself said that he lacks strait line speed. Go Boys Go!!!!!!!

Post by **CasKru** » Wed Jan 04, 2012 10:40 am

Underdeveloped my @$$. If you have a sound corner stone to work from you don't have to re-develop everything. Gaan so lekker lag as die "underdeveloped" Hilux eerste plek vat.

Ek het komentaar geluister van die bestuurder van een van die ander Hilux en volgens hom is daai chassis awesome. Hy se as hy daai neus iewers wil point dan luister die Hiluc en 'n point sy neus. Hulle se ook die cabin is baie gemaklik vir die bestuurders en navigators en baie goed ge-isoleer met baie min stof wat in die cabin in kom

arnize2 · Post by **arnize2** » Wed Jan 04, 2012 10:48 am

Stem saam Cassie, stem saam. Die Hiluxe laat klaar my tone krul so vroeg in die nuwejaar. Hou net duim vas dat alles bly reg loop.

Bernie · Post by **Bernie** » Wed Jan 04, 2012 11:28 am

I think this is the Hummer year. I do hope our boys do well in a very nice looking vehical...
Do you know that the standard HiLux is trying to make it 3 wins in a row this year.

Post by **CasKru** » Wed Jan 04, 2012 11:57 am

Bernie wrote:I think this is the Hummer year. I do hope our boys do well in a very nice looking vehical...
Do you know that the standard HiLux is trying to make it 3 wins in a row this year.

Can you elaborate?

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Wed Jan 04, 2012 12:28 pm

Great to see Gniel doing well again, kom Stellenbosse boykie..

How much of the Imperial Hiluxes are actually Hilux and how much is space-frame/lexus v8 etc etc?

Post by **pietpetoors** » Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:12 pm

How much of the Imperial Hiluxes are actually Hilux

Oh well, the grill and headlights look rather standard to me..............

Post by **CasKru** » Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:16 pm

ThysdJ wrote:Great to see Gniel doing well again, kom Stellenbosse boykie.. How much of the Imperial Hiluxes are actually Hilux and how much is space-frame/lexus v8 etc etc?

Was jy saam met 'n Landie eienaar op holiday want daai ruik darem verbasend baie na hulle tipe aanmerkings

kfxnando · Post by **kfxnando** » Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:44 pm

wishing the hilux team all the best

as for original parts, all those vehicles are the same, almost nothing left of the original vehicle, except the class for original vehicles

for all those interested, there is an app for android and i phone, when one can get live updates
sadly, don't have the link, a search on app world worked great

and that hilux does sound great

Mr_B · Post by **Mr_B** » Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:48 pm

Is there any live coverage on DSTV? If so, which channel?

Post by **pietpetoors** » Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:53 pm

Seems like on all those cars the headlights and badge stays original.
On that Volvo it did not even had the grill, only the badge.

The smartphone apps can be found at
http://www.dakar.com/dakar/2012/us/mobi ... ation.html

and you can stay updated at:
http://gaps.dakar.com/2012/dakar/aso/us

Post by **pietpetoors** » Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:55 pm

See Giniel is only 1 minute 40 seconds behind the leader

Post by **CasKru** » Wed Jan 04, 2012 2:12 pm

Mr_B wrote:Is there any live coverage on DSTV? If so, which channel?

I checked now... nothing :evil: :evil:

kfxnando · Post by **kfxnando** » Wed Jan 04, 2012 2:18 pm

and the volvo burned out lol

Post by **pietpetoors** » Wed Jan 04, 2012 2:45 pm

and the volvo burned out

Ja, shame, must be one hell of a disappointment if something like that happens to you so early in the race.

Post by **pietpetoors** » Wed Jan 04, 2012 2:48 pm

Cassie, I see where they have the details of the day's track they have "connection" and "special stage" , what? hoe werk dit?

Post by **CasKru** » Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:00 pm

pietpetoors wrote:Cassie, I see where they have the details of the day's track they have "connection" and "special stage" , what? hoe werk dit?

Ek is nie heeltemal seker nie Pieter. Oom Heinrich sal ons meer kan vertel

Johan Havenga · Post by **Johan Havenga** » Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:01 pm

Die Hiluxe is alles behalwe standaard!

Al wat van dit 'n Toyota maak is die enjin!

Hier is die artikel wat in 16 Desember 2011 se Engineering News verskyn het!

http://www.engineeringnews.co.za/articl ... 2011-12-16" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Post by **Mud Dog** » Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:55 pm

Like the new page header Cassie!!!

Post by **CasKru** » Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:24 pm

Mud Dog wrote:Like the new page header Cassie!!!

Ek het ge-implement... dit was Pieter se idee

Mr_B · Post by **Mr_B** » Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:59 pm

Cassie that's disgusting... it's the biggest offroad race/challenge in the world! It's exactly this kind of attitude from Mono(Multi)Choice that made me cancel my subscription!

For better services in SA, we need stronger competition across the broad!

Thunder02 · Post by **Thunder02** » Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:03 pm

Really sad that DStv is only showing half an hour a day,which about 10 min of is Dakar history

Go Hilux Go

Post by **CasKru** » Thu Jan 05, 2012 5:32 am

Geniel now 2nd overall

Blackadder · Post by **Blackadder** » Thu Jan 05, 2012 6:12 am

Julle ouens wat die foon app gelaai het...werk hy vir julle???...As ek die rankings wil sien dan se die ding ek moet wag tot die race begin...

Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk

Post by **CasKru** » Thu Jan 05, 2012 6:20 am

Blackadder wrote:Julle ouens wat die foon app gelaai het...werk hy vir julle???...As ek die rankings wil sien dan se die ding ek moet wag tot die race begin...

Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk

Jy moet net kyk dat jy 'n stage kies wat klaar gemaak is. As jy na vandag se roete toe gaan en hulle het nog nie weg getrek nie dan is daar nog nie results nie.

Post by **Mud Dog** » Thu Jan 05, 2012 7:34 am

I see the 'Yotas are creeping up the leader-board nicely!

2.8 d/cab SFA · Post by **2.8 d/cab SFA** » Thu Jan 05, 2012 7:38 am

awesome

kfxnando · Post by **kfxnando** » Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:33 am

Blackadder wrote:Julle ouens wat die foon app gelaai het...werk hy vir julle???...As ek die rankings wil sien dan se die ding ek moet wag tot die race begin...

Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk

also not impressed with the app, most of the functions don't work, have tried all of them, basically only the comentry that works

maybe we doing something wrong

Post by **pietpetoors** » Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:33 am

I see on yesterday's stage Giniel ended 2nd overall - Well Done Giniel !!

1 302 PETERHANSEL (FRA), COTTRET (FRA) MINI 009:43:20
2 301 DE VILLIERS (ZAF), VON ZITZEWITZ (DEU) TOYOTA 009:49:01 00:05:41
3 305 ROMA (ESP), PÉRIN (FRA) MINI 009:50:04 00:06:44
4 304 HOLOWCZYC (POL), FORTIN (BEL) MINI 009:51:30 00:08:10
5 303 GORDON (USA), CAMPBELL (USA) HUMMER 009:59:43 00:16:23
6 312 NOVITSKIY (RUS), SCHULZ (DEU) MINI 010:09:45 00:26:25
7 300 AL-ATTIYAH (QAT), CRUZ (ESP) Hummer 010:14:04 00:30:44
8 307 SOUSA (PRT), GARCIN (FRA) GREAT WALL 010:14:05 00:30:45
9 319 ALVAREZ (ARG), GRAUE (ARG) TOYOTA 010:16:31 00:33:11
10 317 WEVERS (NLD), LURQUIN (BEL) MITSUBISHI 010:20:02 00:36:42
11 315 VAN LOON (NLD), SCHOLTALBERS (NLD) MITSUBISHI 010:25:07 00:41:47
12 313 VOS (ZAF), HOWIE (ZAF) TOYOTA 010:41:10 00:57:50
13 310 SPINELLI (BRA), HADDAD (BRA) MITSUBISHI 010:44:27 01:01:07
14 321 THOMASSE (FRA), LARROQUE (FRA) MD RALLYE 010:53:48 01:10:28
15 325 GARAFULIC (CHL), PICARD (FRA) BMW 011:10:25 01:27:05 00:00:00
16 326 DE AZEVEDO (BRA), CAVASSIN (BRA) NISSAN 011:12:43 01:29:23
17 337 HUZINK (NLD), DECRE (CHE) MITSUBISHI 011:12:55 01:29:35
18 308 TERRANOVA (ARG), GRIDER (USA) TOYOTA 011:14:36 01:31:16

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:37 am

CasKru wrote:
ThysdJ wrote:Great to see Gniel doing well again, kom Stellenbosse boykie.. How much of the Imperial Hiluxes are actually Hilux and how much is space-frame/lexus v8 etc etc?
Was jy saam met 'n Landie eienaar op holiday want daai ruik darem verbasend baie na hulle tipe aanmerkings

Nee nee... ek se maar net... ek smaak ook van conversions...

Of course moet Gniel hulle wys hoe dit gedoen word.. It will suck if a Mini or even a Hummer beats a Hilux in the Dakar...

Post by **pietpetoors** » Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:37 am

OK, I see I was asleep again, Cassie already posted it, just wanted to make double sure.

Mr_B · Post by **Mr_B** » Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:52 am

pietpetoors wrote:OK, I see I was asleep again, Cassie already posted it, just wanted to make double sure.

Mmmmmmmmooooooooorrrrrrrrnnnnnnnniiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnggggg Pieter!

Go Toyota! Does Mini have a 4x4 version of the market? Just wonder which vehicle is most modified away from std production!

Post by **pietpetoors** » Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:59 am

Good morning Mr B, Yes Mini do have a standard production 4x4

http://www.iol.co.za/motoring/latest-la ... w-1.837536" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

MORNE · Post by **MORNE** » Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:04 am

arnize2 wrote:What is interesting is that the commentator is constantly referring to the SA Hilux as "underdeveloped." I think in the context of the Dakar, they are. That makes their positions very impressive. Geniel himself said that he lacks strait line speed. Go Boys Go!!!!!!!

Vir so n "underdeveloped" bakkie skop die Hilux darem gat.

Blackadder · Post by **Blackadder** » Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:31 am

kfxnando wrote:
Blackadder wrote:Julle ouens wat die foon app gelaai het...werk hy vir julle???...As ek die rankings wil sien dan se die ding ek moet wag tot die race begin...

Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk

also not impressed with the app, most of the functions don't work, have tried all of them, basically only the comentry that works

maybe we doing something wrong

I think there is another problem...My start page says the race only starts in 15 days...I get the news updates, but that's it.

Cassie...Is jou app op Android, BB of Windows Mob...???

Post by **CasKru** » Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:53 am

Blackadder wrote:
kfxnando wrote:
Blackadder wrote:Julle ouens wat die foon app gelaai het...werk hy vir julle???...As ek die rankings wil sien dan se die ding ek moet wag tot die race begin...

Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk

also not impressed with the app, most of the functions don't work, have tried all of them, basically only the comentry that works

maybe we doing something wrong
I think there is another problem...My start page says the race only starts in 15 days...I get the news updates, but that's it.

Cassie...Is jou app op Android, BB of Windows Mob...???

Nee jong... ek is gelukkig nie 'n gebruiker van een van daai nie. Ek gebruik maar die web app.

Rebel 4x4 · Post by **Rebel 4x4** » Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:24 am

As daai GWM eerste kom, verkoop ek my SFA en Amarok en koop 2 van daai bakkies!

Baie mense sê wat hulle het en hulle vorige bakkie 'n Nissan was, dat die GWM baie beter is..... Ek weet self nie. Eks maar bang vir no-name brands.... Moenie my verkeerd verstaan nie, ek is nie 'n persoon wat "brand bashing" doen nie.

Post by **Mud Dog** » Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:49 am

Rebel 4x4 wrote:As daai GWM eerste kom, verkoop ek my SFA en Amarok en koop 2 van daai bakkies!

Baie mense sê wat hulle het en hulle vorige bakkie 'n Nissan was, dat die GWM baie beter is..... Ek weet self nie. Eks maar bang vir no-name brands.... Moenie my verkeerd verstaan nie, ek is nie 'n persoon wat "brand bashing" doen nie.

Wat staan agter op jou bakkie, Thomas?

Rebel 4x4 · Post by **Rebel 4x4** » Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:55 pm

Mud Dog wrote:
Rebel 4x4 wrote:As daai GWM eerste kom, verkoop ek my SFA en Amarok en koop 2 van daai bakkies!

Baie mense sê wat hulle het en hulle vorige bakkie 'n Nissan was, dat die GWM baie beter is..... Ek weet self nie. Eks maar bang vir no-name brands.... Moenie my verkeerd verstaan nie, ek is nie 'n persoon wat "brand bashing" doen nie.
Wat staan agter op jou bakkie, Thomas?

Gewonder wanneer iemand dit gaan mention

oops!

Maar ek moet eerlik wees, gee my enige 4x4 bakkie of 'n jeep, dan sal ek 'n happy chappy wees.

Hoppy · Post by **Hoppy** » Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:22 pm

Ek sit my DSTV net vir die F1 en die Dakar aan, het gisteraand die Dakar by n vriend gekyk, my DSTV sal maar af bly tot die F1 begin.

Post by **pietpetoors** » Thu Jan 05, 2012 5:09 pm

Ag No, what happened to Giniel today?
I see at Waypoint 1 he was 6th but by wp 3 he fell back to 10th
Apparently they had lots of rain last night.

Post by **Mud Dog** » Thu Jan 05, 2012 5:29 pm

pietpetoors wrote:Ag No, what happened to Giniel today?
I see at Waypoint 1 he was 6th but by wp 3 he fell back to 10th
Apparently they had lots of rain last night.

Eish! .... Hope they can make it up further along!

kfxnando · Post by **kfxnando** » Thu Jan 05, 2012 5:48 pm

pietpetoors wrote:Ag No, what happened to Giniel today?
I see at Waypoint 1 he was 6th but by wp 3 he fell back to 10th
Apparently they had lots of rain last night.

:evil:

Post by **CasKru** » Thu Jan 05, 2012 5:50 pm

Geniel dropped back to 4th overall after today's stages

Post by **CasKru** » Thu Jan 05, 2012 7:53 pm

Seems like Geniel is now in 5th place overall

Here is the interactive map system showing the result on different waypoints

Post by **CasKru** » Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:11 pm

Click here if you want to
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Hoppy · Post by **Hoppy** » Fri Jan 06, 2012 8:28 am

Hy weet wat hy doen, hy speel "safe", n "Finish" is baie beter as n "Stage win".

Rebel 4x4 · Post by **Rebel 4x4** » Fri Jan 06, 2012 8:42 am

Ek wil nou nie lelik wees nie, maar daai Mini's gaan 1-5 vat, Hummer gaan uitval, 6de gaan na GWM SUV en 7de Giniel. Daai mini's is fluks deur die stages... Die ander ouens ry of hulle parking soek.....

Die laaste wat ek kan onthou waar so iets gebeur het was met die Pajero ouens en Touaregs waar hulle so tou gestaan het in posisies......

Post by **CasKru** » Fri Jan 06, 2012 11:10 am

Geniel got stuck in extremely soft sand and that is the reason for his 9th place on stage 5

African Child · Post by **African Child** » Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:58 pm

Is daai Mini's nie net die goed ontwikkelde BMW's van die vorige jare met Mini doppe nie???