Proposed 0% alcohol limit when driving
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Proposed 0% alcohol limit when driving
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Well this sparks some interesting thoughts. Beware those that have a cold!
Well this sparks some interesting thoughts. Beware those that have a cold!
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Re: Proposed 0% alcohol limit when driving
GOOD !!
there are SO many options, really no need to get behind the wheel "under the influence" !!
but then, they make the same noise every couple of months, so I doubt it will happen
there are SO many options, really no need to get behind the wheel "under the influence" !!
but then, they make the same noise every couple of months, so I doubt it will happen
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Re: Proposed 0% alcohol limit when driving
True, however as per the article (which makes some sense cos I do this) is when I have a cold and a cough (I get them badly!) I sommer drink my cough syrup on the way to/from places... Even UK countries account for this. Yes I agree on the zero tolerance for drinking and driving, but let's face it, most of these okes get off with a bribe or "cool drink money"... Its great having laws, but what's the point when the cops don't enforce?
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Re: Proposed 0% alcohol limit when driving
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Re: Proposed 0% alcohol limit when driving
There is already a law governing drink driving.... but they dont enforce it... Changing from the current levels to 0% wont make them enforce the law more/better, will it? What it will do is make each and every one of us a criminal when we go home from an office lunch where we had a single glass of wine? Or a quick beer after work with a good friend you havent seen for a while? And it happens from time to time...
I am also 100% behind zero tolerance for drink driving, but for heaven's sake, enforce what we have first before going to such extremes? It is exactly the same with the vehicle mods law...
This is a sign of a government having no idea how to govern the country.. they want to legislate everything..
I am also 100% behind zero tolerance for drink driving, but for heaven's sake, enforce what we have first before going to such extremes? It is exactly the same with the vehicle mods law...
This is a sign of a government having no idea how to govern the country.. they want to legislate everything..
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Re: Proposed 0% alcohol limit when driving
If we "get back the money" I will comply with this act!
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Re: Proposed 0% alcohol limit when driving
Why bother if it wont be enforced???
It appears to me as if someone is making noise due to the current deaths involving drink driving.
Enforce the current laws and there will be a difference IMHO
It appears to me as if someone is making noise due to the current deaths involving drink driving.
Enforce the current laws and there will be a difference IMHO
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Re: Proposed 0% alcohol limit when driving
I AM 100% in favour of ZERO tolerance.ThysdJ wrote:There is already a law governing drink driving.... but they dont enforce it... Changing from the current levels to 0% wont make them enforce the law more/better, will it? What it will do is make each and every one of us a criminal when we go home from an office lunch where we had a single glass of wine? Or a quick beer after work with a good friend you havent seen for a while? And it happens from time to time...
I am also 100% behind zero tolerance for drink driving, but for heaven's sake, enforce what we have first before going to such extremes? It is exactly the same with the vehicle mods law...
This is a sign of a government having no idea how to govern the country.. they want to legislate everything..
That said - new laws means NOTHING, if they cant even enforce the existing ones !!
I have actually driven a friend home after a braai at our place, 90km round trip !
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Re: Proposed 0% alcohol limit when driving
We always "kuier" at my house. Much safer and I can enjoy myself more.
When we do go out to friends for odd occasion, only one of us would "kuier" (usually me )
and the other one would have no more than 2 drinks.
I have arrested many drunk drivers myself, but have taken a drunk person home in his own
vehicle a lot more.
The problem is that the police is run like a business these days where targets are set at the
beginning of the month for drugs, gun possession , drunk driving and so forth.
If the target is met, they did there jobs, if it wasn't met, there are reports and inquiries as to why not.
And the shift workers have to take the blame. And every year they have to "beat" the previous years target.
It will only get worse and worse for us so take care. You can't always bargain on the fact that you can
bribe your way out of a traffic violation anymore, especially drunk driving ones
When we do go out to friends for odd occasion, only one of us would "kuier" (usually me )
and the other one would have no more than 2 drinks.
I have arrested many drunk drivers myself, but have taken a drunk person home in his own
vehicle a lot more.
The problem is that the police is run like a business these days where targets are set at the
beginning of the month for drugs, gun possession , drunk driving and so forth.
If the target is met, they did there jobs, if it wasn't met, there are reports and inquiries as to why not.
And the shift workers have to take the blame. And every year they have to "beat" the previous years target.
It will only get worse and worse for us so take care. You can't always bargain on the fact that you can
bribe your way out of a traffic violation anymore, especially drunk driving ones
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Re: Proposed 0% alcohol limit when driving
Are we a nanny state and yes people that are DRUNK and are a danger should be arrested.However most law abiding people would have one or two beers at lunch and are more than capable than a lot of the idiots that have no alcohol in their system.This is a band aid on a hippo's but.As I see it people with a position that are incapable of making a positive contribution and make changes where they are not needed and put no input into what is needed to change.
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Re: Proposed 0% alcohol limit when driving
Agree.I can not see what difference 0% tolerance will make to the death toll of drunk driving on our roads.Scott wrote:Are we a nanny state and yes people that are DRUNK and are a danger should be arrested.However most law abiding people would have one or two beers at lunch and are more than capable than a lot of the idiots that have no alcohol in their system.This is a band aid on a hippo's but.As I see it people with a position that are incapable of making a positive contribution and make changes where they are not needed and put no input into what is needed to change.
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Re: Proposed 0% alcohol limit when driving
Rodney on the one hand I DO agree that a new law wont make any difference - when the existing law is not applied ...Scott wrote:Are we a nanny state and yes people that are DRUNK and are a danger should be arrested.However most law abiding people would have one or two beers at lunch and are more than capable than a lot of the idiots that have no alcohol in their system.This is a band aid on a hippo's but.As I see it people with a position that are incapable of making a positive contribution and make changes where they are not needed and put no input into what is needed to change.
HOWEVER, let's be brutally honest for one second - how often do you see that 2nd beer turn into an all nighter .....
but yes, a new law still wont make a blind bit of difference.
but if 4x4Bees starts talking of the results of drink driving then it sketches a different picture again ....
SO easy to arrange for a dedicated driver. I fail to see why people drive when they think they can handle that third one ....
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Re: Proposed 0% alcohol limit when driving
Lets wait and see what the investigating committe decide after having lots of meetings and lunches at the tax payers expence.
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Re: Proposed 0% alcohol limit when driving
how many "Dry" lunches will they have to come to the SAME conclusion as the previous years ?Froll wrote:Lets wait and see what the investigating committe decide after having lots of meetings and lunches at the tax payers expence.
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Re: Proposed 0% alcohol limit when driving
I am totaly against drunken driving, but 0% is taking it to far, i think it's yet another way to extort money from motorists, the same as the modification laws, it's money making schemes
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