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Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:52 pm

Let's say it's 6.15pm and you're going home (alone of course),
...after an unusually hard day on the job. You're really tired, upset and frustrated. Suddenly you start experiencing severe pain in your chest that starts to drag out into your arm and up into your jaw. You are only about five miles (8kms) from the hospital nearest your home. Unfortunately you...

don't know if you'll be able to make it that far. You have been trained in CPR, but the guy that taught the course did not tell you how to perform it on yourself..!!

NOW HOW TO SURVIVE A HEART ATTACK WHEN ALONE..

Since many people are alone when they suffer a heart attack, without help, the person whose heart is beating improperly and who begins to feel faint, has only about 10 seconds left before losing consciousness.
However, these victims can help themselves by coughing repeatedly and very vigorously.A deep breath should be taken before each cough, and the cough must be deep and prolonged, as when producing sputum from deep inside the chest.

A breath and a cough must be repeated about every two seconds without let-up until help arrives, or until the heart is felt to be beating normally again. Deep breaths get oxygen into the lungs and coughing movements squeeze the heart and keep the blood circulating.
The squeezing pressure on the heart also helps it regain normal rhythm. In this way, heart attack victims can get to a hospital.

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Thu Nov 08, 2012 2:04 pm

Interesting............. :thumbup:
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Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:18 pm

Tertius - heard the same thing :thumbup:

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Sat Nov 10, 2012 9:59 am

I mentioned this to FIL - a specialist physician - he says it is good advice! :thumbup: :thumbup:
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Sat Nov 10, 2012 10:05 am

Good advice, will try it next time.

Running into the side of your hilux, hitting it chest first a few times also works.
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Sat Nov 10, 2012 6:23 pm

step one - DONT MESS with a chest pain that spreads to the ARM !!!!!!!!!

THAT is one symptom one should NEVER ignore !!!!




PS - if it comes to it, I hope to keep up the coughing .....

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Thanks for the advise, with age come many things.
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thanks for the heads up on that
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Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:34 am

Thanks 4 the advice, very interesting, hopefully it never comes to that.

BTW why do they call it a heart attack if it doesn't attack you, but rather stop??
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Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:40 am

Found the following article on: http://www.hoax-slayer.com/survive-heart-attack.html
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An email forward that offers spurious advice about how to survive a heart attack has been continually circulating around the Internet since at least 1999.

So called "cough CPR" is not a technique recommended or condoned by medical professionals
The message outlines a technique for surviving a heart attack while alone that involves vigorous coughing. According to the email, a cardiologist has advised forwarding the message to others in order to save lives. However, the alleged cardiologist is not named, nor is there any reference to a reputable medical institution. In my opinion, any life-critical "medical advise" that is not supported by credible reference material should be used with extreme caution.

It should be noted that the cough procedure outlined in the email is not, in itself, a hoax and has been researched and tested by medical experts. In fact, so called "Cough CPR" might be beneficial under certain controlled circumstances. However, this does not mean that the advice in the email message is valid and useful. The most important factor to consider is that, according to medical experts, cough CPR should only be performed under strict professional supervision.

According to the American Heart Association, "the usefulness of 'cough CPR' is generally limited to monitored patients with a witnessed arrest in the hospital setting". The American Heart Association article also notes:

The American Heart Association does not endorse "cough CPR," a coughing procedure widely publicized on the Internet. As noted in the 2010 American Heart Association Guidelines for Cardiopulmonary Resuscitation and Emergency Cardiovascular Care, “cough CPR” is not useful for unresponsive victims and should not be taught to lay rescuers.

Moreover, the Resuscitation Council in the UK "knows of no evidence that, even if a lone patient knew that cardiac arrest had occurred, he or she would be able to maintain sufficient circulation to allow activity, let alone driving to the hospital".

A victim would probably be better off directing his or her energy towards other life saving options such as seeking immediate help or calling the emergency number. The American Heart Association article also states:

The best strategy is to be aware of the early warning signs for heart attack and cardiac arrest and respond to them by calling [the emergency number in your country]. If you're driving alone and you start having severe chest pain or discomfort that starts to spread into your arm and up into your jaw (the scenario presented in the Internet article), pull over and flag down another motorist for help or phone [the emergency number in your country] on a cellular telephone.

Heart patient support organization Mended Hearts has also debunked the procedure:

Despite a contagious rumor, coughing doesn't prevent a heart attack. An e-mail that spread around the world like a contagious disease a few years ago claimed that anyone who feels heart attack symptoms while alone should cough "repeatedly and very vigorously, repeating a breath about every two seconds…until help arrives, or (a normal heartbeat returns)."

Wrong, says the American Heart Association.

"It's right up there with voodoo as far as I'm concerned," says Dr. Cary Fishbein, a cardiologist with the Dayton Heart Center.

Another version of the message arrives as an email attachment rendered in Microsoft PowerPoint format. Someone has gone to quite a lot of trouble to convert the original message into an attractive presentation complete with graphics and sound. In spite of the probable good intentions of the creator, the advice presented in the PowerPoint version is as equally spurious as it is in the email version. The PowerPoint version falsely attributes the information to an article in the "Journal Of General Hospital, Rochester". However the Rochester General Hospital denies that such an article exists and has included the following statement on its website:

Important Notice Regarding the article "How to Survive a Heart Attack When Alone."

Hundreds of people around the country have been receiving an e-mail message entitled "How to Survive a Heart Attack When Alone." This article recommends a procedure to survive a heart attack in which the victim is advised to repeatedly cough at regular intervals until help arrives.

The source of information for this article was attributed to ViaHealth Rochester General Hospital. This article is being propagated on the Internet as individuals send it to friends and acquaintances - and then those recipients of the memo send it to their friends and acquaintances, and so on.

We can find no record that an article even resembling this was produced by Rochester General Hospital within the last 20 years. Furthermore, the medical information listed in the article can not be verified by current medical literature and is in no way condoned by this hospital's medical staff. Also, both The Mended Hearts, Inc., a support organization for heart patients, and the American Heart Association have said that this information should not be forwarded or used by anyone. Please help us combat the proliferation of this misinformation. We ask that you please send this e-mail to anyone who sent you the article, and please ask them to do the same.

Thus, the "advice" presented in this email forward is not condoned by medical experts and it certainly should not be forwarded to "as many friends as possible". Forwarding this sort of misinformation is irresponsible. Using the procedure outlined in the message in place of immediately seeking medical help could actually cost a life rather than save it.

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Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:57 am

Thanks 4 the advice, very interesting, hopefully it never comes to that.

BTW why do they call it a heart attack if it doesn't attack you, but rather stop??c
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Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:39 am

cough CPR should only be performed under strict professional supervision.

nice om iets nuuts te leer.
net een vraag: under strict prof supervition, dan kan die persoon mos help met die cpr
of verstaan ek dit verkeerd?

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Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:17 pm

Bos Vark wrote:
cough CPR should only be performed under strict professional supervision.

nice om iets nuuts te leer.
net een vraag: under strict prof supervition, dan kan die persoon mos help met die cpr
of verstaan ek dit verkeerd?
Die een maak vir my ook nie sin nie. Kan nie aan 'n rede dink nie, wanneer 'n doc of 'n paramedic sy pasient sal vra om te hoes in plaas van vir hom te help met CPR of nog beter 'n defibrilator. Ek sal met een van my paramedic vriende bietjie hieroor gesels.

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Tue Feb 26, 2013 4:15 pm

Hallo daar.
Seker n bietjie laat in die topic, maar aangesien die mediese veld so baie vernader met tegnieke en manier van "self-preservation" is dit opvallend dat sulke rubrieke vry gestel word.
In die praktyk klink dit of dit sal werk, maar om self daai borskas pyn te ervaar en dan nog jou self forseer om te hoes is bietjie ver uit mekaar uit.
Jy kan skaars asem haal as jy n "Cardiac Chest pain" ervaar.
Volgens die AHA (American Heart Association) is daar nie voorstelle gemaak vir die hoes prosedure nie.
Ek dink as n mens so n borskas pyn ervaar dan sal n mens seker enige iets probeer doen om die pyn beter te maak.
Dit kom neer op hoe jy jou liggaam ken en of jy gaan vir gereelde besoeke aan jou dokter.
As daar natuurlik leefstyle en familie geskiedenis is van "Heart disease" dan is jou risiko ook natuurlik groter.
Basic procedures save lives. MAW gaan vir KPR klasse. Dit is goedkoop en jy kan n lewe red.
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