Scheduled System Downtime

[OOOOMS]

Please note,

WARNING: It is time to upgrade the forum software again. I will do this on
Tuesday evening after 21h00. The regular visitors will have to think of
something else to do that evening. Perhaps take your wife out for the
evening or so? I cannot think of anything else to do but I guess you guys
will be able to think about something

That is tonight 08/12/2009:!:

[pietpetoors]

Thanks Mark, I almost forgot. I am running about 15 minutes late.
So start the count down

[pietpetoors]

We are back online. As usual I will not know if there are any bugs if you guys do not tell me so PLEASE if anything is not working please let me know so I can see if we can fix it.

I only updated the forum software, it seems as if there were no update for the template.

Weet nie of dit my verbeelding is nie, maar it seems as if the forum is a bit faster?

[Niel]

it seems as if the forum is a bit faster?

seems like it

[Mud Dog]

Seems like it to me as well

[CasKru]

All seems fine this side as well :)

[OOOOMS]

Please stop posting.....you are going to overload the system

[Niel]

Mark OT

[CasKru]

Please stop posting.....you are going to overload the system

The system will self terminate in 3... 2.... 1.... nevahhhh!

[Mr_B]

Huh! Scheduled up time is back! Yeeewaaaa!

Dankie Pieter... I can't see any differences

[OOOOMS]

Bretton......it's supposed to be transparent, man :!: :!: :!:

[pietpetoors]

Bretton most changes are behind the scenes.
Here is a list of new features, see if you can find the atom feed or quick reply, I cannot but will have a look tomorrow:

A list of major new features implemented in phpBB 3.0.6

* Better captcha options and backported 3.2 captcha plugins:
o Classic and GD CAPTCHA
o reCaptcha (based on API from recaptcha.net by Mike Crawford and Ben Maurer)
o Q&A CAPTCHA
o 3D Wave (by Robert "Xore" Hetzler)


* Introduced new ACM (Cache) plugins. (Please consult our support forums for help if you need to use one of the new ACM plugins)
o null (to disable caching completely)
o memcache
o APC
o XCache
o eAccelerator
* ATOM Feeds
* Bare-bones Quick Reply editor in viewtopic
* Users can report PMs to moderators which are then visible in a new MCP module
* Ability to copy permissions from one forum to several other forums.
* Send anonymous statistical information to phpBB on installation and update (optional)

[pietpetoors]

Please note that I will be doing a software update tonight at 22h15

[pietpetoors]

I decided to postpone the update to tomorrow evening same time, having problems downloading the files

[Mr_B]

International forum rules dictate that software update must be performed between 2am and 6am... so that by the time your users are back online... all post update bugs have been resolved!

Please adhere to these rules... or else! Then you can have your morning coffee!

[CasKru]

International forum rules dictate that software update must be performed between 2am and 6am... so that by the time your users are back online... all post update bugs have been resolved!

Please adhere to these rules... or else! Then you can have your morning coffee!

I will have you know that Pieter will be doing it between 2am and 6am (maybe not SA time but it will be 2am somewhere in the world)

[ThysdJ]

International forum rules dictate that software update must be performed between 2am and 6am... so that by the time your users are back online... all post update bugs have been resolved!

Please adhere to these rules... or else! Then you can have your morning coffee!

With us being an international forum, software upgrades will allways under all circumstances happen between 2am snd 6am..

[pietpetoors]

International forum rules dictate that software update must be performed between 2am and 6am

It is now 3AM, last night in the West Coast, thus the forum will die on you within the next 10 minutes.
Prepare to go offline

[CasKru]

Sterkte Pieter!

[Mr_B]

No no pleaaassssseeee... nooooooooooo...

Call me... no wait... don't call me if u have any hassles...

ZAP! Laptop battery died...

[Mr_B]

Ha... well done Pieter I see we back online... that was quick!

[pietpetoors]

we were not gone yet, I am busy with the back-up and then it is time to see if it will be a quick or not si quick update. 5.....4......3......2.................................

[pietpetoors]

OK, we are back online.
The main forum software has been updated but I am not yet sure if the template files need any updates. The template guys are normally a day or two behind the software guys.

If you see anything funny please report it so that we can have a look.

[Mud Dog]

OK, we are back online.
The main forum software has been updated but I am not yet sure if the template files need any updates. The template guys are normally a day or two behind the software guys.

If you see anything funny please report it so that we can have a look.

The upgrade may have a virus attached. It's not funny but at the same time it is ..... look what it did to my mouse!

mouse001.jpg (32.01 KiB) Viewed 4542 times

[chopper]

[Mr_B]

Sorry Pieter... we'll have to try something else... the Andy virus is still resident!

So what changed? Pieter is there not an AJAX plugin/upgrade for the forum software, I see some of the other forum software packages now utilises AJAX... makes the user experience so much smoother!

Mr B

[pietpetoors]

Can you give me an example or two Bretton?

Andy I think the virus is not forum related, I checked my mouse this morning and it is still fine.

[Mud Dog]

The forum is noticeably more responsive, but only a matter of time before it slows down again. Can none of you IT boffs shed some light on this "refresh" problem that I have experienced for the last month or so? At first it was a little intermittant and then lapsed into total disfunction. I loaded FF ... same problem ... upgraded to latest ver of FF ... no change ... was using IE when it all started. At that time Eric and a few others had the same problem but theirs seemed to come right on it's own.
I've checked things like cookie settings in the browsers ... cannot see what's going on. When I use the 'back button' to go back to a previously viewed page I can see that the browser immediately loads the last version of the page from cache and the progress bar for d/loading is active for a second or two, but still the page does'nt refresh. I have to do it manually each time .... very frustrating.

[Mr_B]

Hi Andy,

It seems like FireFox has an auto cache control built in, and it relies on the webpage being viewed to set it's preference for caching... remember if caching is turned off pages with load much slower, and more bandwidth will be consumed... a websites caching preferences are defined in the 'header' of the webpage... take a look, this is the 'header' for this forum page:

viewtopic.php?f=36&t=9691&start=20

GET /views/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=9691&start=20 HTTP/1.1
Host: http://www.hilux4x4.co.za
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100202 Firefox/3.5.8 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729)
Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8
Accept-Language: en-gb,en;q=0.5
Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate
Accept-Charset: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7
Keep-Alive: 300
Connection: keep-alive
Referer: search.php?search_id=active_topics
Cookie: phpbb3_hilux_u=305; phpbb3_hilux_k=c5e0551c16c3ba0b; phpbb3_hilux_sid=d5d92c627646ebd89bf4616d55776ab0

HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 07:46:07 GMT
Server: Apache/2.2.3 (CentOS)
X-Powered-By: PHP/5.1.6
Cache-Control: private, no-cache="set-cookie"
Expires: 0
Pragma: no-cache
Keep-Alive: timeout=5, max=100
Connection: Keep-Alive
Transfer-Encoding: chunked
Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8


If you take a look in the header you will see 2 header cache directives:

1. 'pragma: no-cache'... problem is that this is a Internet Explorer only header, Firefox just ignores it... and then caches the web page data... which is a problem...

2. 'Cache-Control: private'... this header tells proxy servers not to cache the file, but the page still cached at the browser level... which is a problem...

So there are 2 ways to fix this... switch back to Internet Explorer... IE8 is pretty good anyway... or I will speak to Pieter, and see if we can add another header to each page of the forum's PHP scripts, to instruct FireFox not to cache the forum... to remedy the issue... but again remember that each time you then visit the forum, all webpage content will be reloaded, impacting the page load speed and bandwidth used...

There may be another solution, but it's not a good one... give me a moment... to test, then I'll explain!

[pietpetoors]

With the previous big upgrade the cache thing was one of the major additions.
I think they did that to make the forum faster.
Andy that is why the page do not refresh because if you hit the back button the browser knows that you just have been on that page and displays the same page you previously visited. If the cash is not there it has to reload the complete new page each time you open the page.

I wasn't aware of the problem because I never use the back button on the forum.

I will check and see what solution we can come up with

[pietpetoors]

I have to do a quick update, it should not take more than 5 minutes.
Will do it at 21h15 allowing peope who are currently online to finish what they are busy with

[pietpetoors]

DONE- Thanks for your patience

[Mud Dog]

Did'nt see this message ..... ignore my e-mail.

[pietpetoors]

No problem

[Mud Dog]

For a while there I wondered if we had been the target of something / someone malicious ..... "Anonymous" and all .....