VPS Paint protection

If you drive a 4x2 Hilux, do NOT think you are not welcome. Post your questions here
Post Reply
Arri
High Range 4WD
High Range 4WD
Posts: 92
Joined: Sat May 03, 2008 8:44 pm
Town: Pretoria
Vehicle: Toyota Hilux 2.7VVT-i Raised Body Raider s/c lwb 2008
Real Name: Arno
Location: Pretoria

VPS Paint protection

Post by Arri »

I was shocked to discover that VPS charges about 9k to do a luxury 4x4 with their clear proctective paint film.
Off course 3M is the leading manufaturer and offers the highest quality product that is durable and looks good, but come on at the end of the day it's just a high quality sticky tape and that gets placed on strategic areas, and for those prices I can get metalic pearl effeck professional respray.
Arriwyks
Toyota Fan
arriwyks@gmail.com

ImageImageImageImage
Image
BenHur
Monster Truck
Monster Truck
Posts: 5906
Joined: Fri May 18, 2007 7:12 pm
Town: Pretoria
Vehicle: '96 D/C Raider
Real Name: Bennie
Location: Doornpoort

Re: VPS Paint protection

Post by BenHur »

Ja nee its a total ripp off, I considered it on the colour coded ARB bullbar and a small strip in the bonnet for my Pajero as well and they quoted me R4k.

I was shocked.
Arri
High Range 4WD
High Range 4WD
Posts: 92
Joined: Sat May 03, 2008 8:44 pm
Town: Pretoria
Vehicle: Toyota Hilux 2.7VVT-i Raised Body Raider s/c lwb 2008
Real Name: Arno
Location: Pretoria

Re: VPS Paint protection

Post by Arri »

Dagse

Dit sal baie help op die colorcoded bullbar en bonnet, maar nie vir daai prys nie, jy kan doringbome omry en dan al jou bullbar se paint afkrap en hom laat 3 keer re-spray vir daai
prys, hoekom dan so ongelooflike duur betaal vir 'n deurskynende sticker, 3M is 'n groot maatskappy en sterk in SA hulle pryse is nie so erg nie en om dit aan te plak. dis soos die vernter
tint dit verg bietjie gedult en talent maar nie daai geld se waarde nie. Die chinese sal met een kom klaar gesny vir jou kar en R10.00 vra, al hou dit net 6 maande, dis beter as 9k
Ek dink Suid Afrikaners is nog teeds te ryk en betaal enigiets wat handellaars vra want daar is mos nie kompetisie nie
Arriwyks
Toyota Fan
arriwyks@gmail.com

ImageImageImageImage
Image
DOELLOOS

Re: VPS Paint protection

Post by DOELLOOS »

Die materiaal wat hulle gebruik is baie (BAIE) duur en duursaam. Die goed werk regtig baie goed, en hou jou verfwerk regtig in tip-top kondisie. Die aansit is ook nie so eenvoudig soos window tinting nie.
Arri
High Range 4WD
High Range 4WD
Posts: 92
Joined: Sat May 03, 2008 8:44 pm
Town: Pretoria
Vehicle: Toyota Hilux 2.7VVT-i Raised Body Raider s/c lwb 2008
Real Name: Arno
Location: Pretoria

Re: VPS Paint protection

Post by Arri »

Ja Ewalt
Hulle gbruik die beste 3m Scotchgard Paint Protection Film en dit is uitstekend gehalte, en daat 'n trick op dit aan te heg, Maar alls daai maak dit nog nie reverdig om R90000-00 te vra vir qualiteit sticker nie.
The Product
Scotchgard™ Paint Protection Film (PPF) is a virtually invisible barrier against flying road debris, abrasion and weathering. When applied to your car’s vulnerable areas, such as the hood, bumper, mirrors, and door edges, PPF acts like armor to guard against rock chips, bug etchings, salt, and other debris the road might throw at you. If resale value is important to you, this is a great way to keep you car’s exterior looking new. PPF is trusted by NASCAR to keep race cars looking their best. Additionally, 3M is the original patent holder and through its network of applicators has over one million successful installs.

The Technology
Most of us have some experience with Scotchâ„¢ Tape, whether to repair something at the office or to wrap a gift at home. Scotchâ„¢ Tape can have as many as eight layers of material in a product as thin as a sheet of paper. What makes such layering possible is the science, process, and technology of microreplication and 3M is the foremost expert in this field.

3M Scotchgardâ„¢ Paint Protection Film employs that same 3M innovation in microreplication to produce a 6 mil urethane film that is coated with a tough and resilient stretchable clear coat. The stretchable clear coat (below) is designed to make the film glossy, maintenance-free, stain and fade-resistant for years. Consequently, 3M Scotchgardâ„¢ Paint Protection Film allows customers to treat the film as they do their paint. There is no special maintenance required with 3M Scotchgardâ„¢ Paint Protection Film.

The Difference
Many competitive films utilize only two layers of construction and rely upon waxes and regular cleaning to resist stains and maintain gloss. Competitive films produce types of clear coats that leave the film rigid which creates undue stress. This stress can lead to peeling edges, surface imperfections, and lifted areas. 3M backs its claims with a 5 year limited warranty.

So dis die beste maar nog steeds nie 9K werd nie,
Arriwyks
Toyota Fan
arriwyks@gmail.com

ImageImageImageImage
Image
DOELLOOS

Re: VPS Paint protection

Post by DOELLOOS »

Op 'n R800,000 Cruiser 200 is dit vir seker die moeite werd. Ons is net te blerrie arm om die waarde te sien.

:twisted:
Arri
High Range 4WD
High Range 4WD
Posts: 92
Joined: Sat May 03, 2008 8:44 pm
Town: Pretoria
Vehicle: Toyota Hilux 2.7VVT-i Raised Body Raider s/c lwb 2008
Real Name: Arno
Location: Pretoria

Re: VPS Paint protection

Post by Arri »

OF dit nou op 'n R120000.00 SFA Hilux is en of dit op 1.4 miljoen Porche Cayenne, en jy plak dieselfde groote oppeflakte op maak dit mos nie 'n verskil nie.
En die feit dat iemand 'n duur 4x4 voertuig kan bekostig, beteken nie dat alles vir daai voertugh buitensporig duur moet, maak nie saak hoe hoe kwaliteit dit is nie.
Ons as Suid-Afrikaanse gebruikers is te gewoon enige pryse te bepaal om dat bekrygbaarheid skaars is of omdat ons glo duurder is aaltyd beter. Hoekom moet die invoerders van
die nice speelgoed soos kampeer toerusting hulle wins persentasie sommer 200% opmerk as hulle iets verkoop. Dan kry jy die maatskappye is toe oor naweke en en werk teen hulle eie trend oor hulle
soveel geld maak hulle hoef nie te worry of extra te doen nie, Ek wys nie nou vingers na enige handelaar nie maar dit is die algemene kultuur hierso. Dan kyk mens n pryse. Hoekom R800k vir 'n Landcruises betaal as hy eintlik vir R400k oorsee gaan. As ek 'n handelaar was sou ek ook net aanhou my prys opstood solank die mense aanhou instroom om te koop. Want aan die einde van die dag is die realiteit dat 'n produk se prys bepaal word deur hoeveel die mense berreid is om uit te haal daarvoor. Vat maar petrol, neem die taxis se toelaag weg en sal oornag sommer r5.00 minder betaal anders brand hulle die regeing se kantore tot op die vloer, maak nie saak wat die oli prys is nie. MAar omdat die motoriste gelukkig is om die regering te susidieer, kan hulle dit maar more met nog R10.oo opskryf en die verbruik sal dieselfde wees. So doen ons handellaars maar dieselfde, daarom gee ek nie om as die chinese kom en bietjie besigheid steelk van die mense nie, al verkoop hulle die grootste gemors, dit raak lokale besigheid se sakke en hulle het ons al die jare belaglik uitgevreet.
Arriwyks
Toyota Fan
arriwyks@gmail.com

ImageImageImageImage
Image
BenHur
Monster Truck
Monster Truck
Posts: 5906
Joined: Fri May 18, 2007 7:12 pm
Town: Pretoria
Vehicle: '96 D/C Raider
Real Name: Bennie
Location: Doornpoort

Re: VPS Paint protection

Post by BenHur »

Dis reg sê hulle :wink:
DOELLOOS

Re: VPS Paint protection

Post by DOELLOOS »

Arri wrote:OF dit nou op 'n R120000.00 SFA Hilux is en of dit op 1.4 miljoen Porche Cayenne, en jy plak dieselfde groote oppeflakte op maak dit mos nie 'n verskil nie.
En die feit dat iemand 'n duur 4x4 voertuig kan bekostig, beteken nie dat alles vir daai voertugh buitensporig duur moet, maak nie saak hoe hoe kwaliteit dit is nie.
Ons as Suid-Afrikaanse gebruikers is te gewoon enige pryse te bepaal om dat bekrygbaarheid skaars is of omdat ons glo duurder is aaltyd beter. Hoekom moet die invoerders van
die nice speelgoed soos kampeer toerusting hulle wins persentasie sommer 200% opmerk as hulle iets verkoop. Dan kry jy die maatskappye is toe oor naweke en en werk teen hulle eie trend oor hulle
soveel geld maak hulle hoef nie te worry of extra te doen nie, Ek wys nie nou vingers na enige handelaar nie maar dit is die algemene kultuur hierso. Dan kyk mens n pryse. Hoekom R800k vir 'n Landcruises betaal as hy eintlik vir R400k oorsee gaan. As ek 'n handelaar was sou ek ook net aanhou my prys opstood solank die mense aanhou instroom om te koop. Want aan die einde van die dag is die realiteit dat 'n produk se prys bepaal word deur hoeveel die mense berreid is om uit te haal daarvoor. Vat maar petrol, neem die taxis se toelaag weg en sal oornag sommer r5.00 minder betaal anders brand hulle die regeing se kantore tot op die vloer, maak nie saak wat die oli prys is nie. MAar omdat die motoriste gelukkig is om die regering te susidieer, kan hulle dit maar more met nog R10.oo opskryf en die verbruik sal dieselfde wees. So doen ons handellaars maar dieselfde, daarom gee ek nie om as die chinese kom en bietjie besigheid steelk van die mense nie, al verkoop hulle die grootste gemors, dit raak lokale besigheid se sakke en hulle het ons al die jare belaglik uitgevreet.
Ag jou antie man!!!!!

Ek byt al jare die mense uit, en ek leef soos 'n koning. Jy sit net aan die verkeerde kant van die formule ou pel.

:wink:
Arri
High Range 4WD
High Range 4WD
Posts: 92
Joined: Sat May 03, 2008 8:44 pm
Town: Pretoria
Vehicle: Toyota Hilux 2.7VVT-i Raised Body Raider s/c lwb 2008
Real Name: Arno
Location: Pretoria

Re: VPS Paint protection

Post by Arri »

Passop my auntie soek reeds onderhouyd en sy soek nou nog die verantwoordelike......

JA jy's reg maar onthou net dit het 'n ripple effek, Jy buit my anuty uiten om op te maak daarvoor buit sy weer jou swaer uit, dis 'n kringloop en aan die einde van die dag beweeg ons na 'n Mugabe stelse waar almal uitgeweet het. Ekj se nie moenie jou wins om te betaal vir daai vir daai nuwe diffs en replacement shocks wat jy afgespeel het die naweek nie, maar daar is geldmaak en dan bloot rip-off en waar eindig ons R1000.00 vir my halfbrood en blikkie pilchards moet betaal.
Ek wil self bietjie aftermarket Hilux/Vigo produckte van Thailand inbring en dan net so 150% opmerk instede van die 300% wat julle opsryf, maar ek weet as ek dit probeer dan gaan jou cousins en die boere mafia my kniskywe breek, so vir nou is nou is dit maar K_K en betaal vir arme salaris trekkers soos ek .
En hoe moet ek nuwe TRD Hilux bestel as ek so suffer?

groente Arri
Arriwyks
Toyota Fan
arriwyks@gmail.com

ImageImageImageImage
Image
DOELLOOS

Re: VPS Paint protection

Post by DOELLOOS »

Ja, sadly sit ek ook aan die verkeerde kant van daai formule. Wou maar net voel hoe dit voel om te se...
Arri
High Range 4WD
High Range 4WD
Posts: 92
Joined: Sat May 03, 2008 8:44 pm
Town: Pretoria
Vehicle: Toyota Hilux 2.7VVT-i Raised Body Raider s/c lwb 2008
Real Name: Arno
Location: Pretoria

Re: VPS Paint protection

Post by Arri »

Probeer die een stap in by een van grootste safari sentrums in die land, Se vir hulle: sit alles op wat julle kan en worry nie oor die koste nie.
Arriwyks
Toyota Fan
arriwyks@gmail.com

ImageImageImageImage
Image
Arri
High Range 4WD
High Range 4WD
Posts: 92
Joined: Sat May 03, 2008 8:44 pm
Town: Pretoria
Vehicle: Toyota Hilux 2.7VVT-i Raised Body Raider s/c lwb 2008
Real Name: Arno
Location: Pretoria

Re: VPS Paint protection

Post by Arri »

Ja ons kan aangaan en stry oor die waarde, 3M is die beste produk, oorspronklik het hulle die film ontwikkel om propeller vliegtuie se "leading Edges"te beskerm teen klippies en sof in die lig en onthou van hulle breek die klankgrens op die punte, Maar ek ken nie iemand iemand met 'n Hilux wat die klankgrens breek nie, en al het hulle ook, dis nogsteed buitensporig en rip-off soos al ons spesialis produkte deesdae is. Onthou die blinde sambok dis 'n kringloop, ja maak geld maar as jy dit in een week wil doen gaan ons ook soos mugabe land lyk een van die dae.
Arriwyks
Toyota Fan
arriwyks@gmail.com

ImageImageImageImage
Image
BenHur
Monster Truck
Monster Truck
Posts: 5906
Joined: Fri May 18, 2007 7:12 pm
Town: Pretoria
Vehicle: '96 D/C Raider
Real Name: Bennie
Location: Doornpoort

Re: VPS Paint protection

Post by BenHur »

My skoonpa hulle laat hulle add wek op hulle trokke ook beskerm deur dit met die VPS oor te trek en hulle betaal nie eers 'n 1/4 van die prys wat ons moet betaal nie. Maar ek het al getry en kyk of ek nie ' off cut kon organise nie, maar die plek waar hulle dit laat doen wou nie byt daarvoor nie :evil: :evil:
Arri
High Range 4WD
High Range 4WD
Posts: 92
Joined: Sat May 03, 2008 8:44 pm
Town: Pretoria
Vehicle: Toyota Hilux 2.7VVT-i Raised Body Raider s/c lwb 2008
Real Name: Arno
Location: Pretoria

Re: VPS Paint protection

Post by Arri »

Hoekom sal hulle solank hulle goed doen en goeie besigheid kry, Dis vir my verbasend van ons verkopers, eertens hoebeel hulle mark-up op produkte us en tweedens hoe hulle vat dit of los
dit houdengs het as mens probeer onderhandel vir 'n beter prys, en dan is daar die klomp veral in die motor bedryf wat jou sal verneuk om uitvreet om elke draai, Okay ek veralgemeen daar is nogsteeds baie nice besighede daar buite wat jou 'n fair deal gee, maar hulle word al hoe skaarser, en ek glo wat jy saai sal jy maai, bv. vandag doen jy my in as ek motor laat diens, more doen die spesialis jou in as jy vir operasie gaan en dan doen my vrou weer sy kinders in as hulle skoolbehoeftes koop. So bly ons almal arm, skyf pryse op net om te oorleef en daar is minder besigheid minder ekstra kontant vir speelgoed en nie noodsaaklikhede, en die mense wat weet vat eerder hul besigheid oorsee of voer goeters in vir goedkoper wat dit hier vervaardig word. Dis nie 'n positiewe resep vir groei en 'n vooruitstrewende land nie. Nog 'n ding wat baie opvallend is in die motor bedryf, as jy iemand teekom wat onbenullig is oor produkte, hoekom probeer die meeste handellaars en dienslewers daai persoon onnodig vir 'n "ride vat" en so ver moontlik uitbyt net omdat hulle kan.
Arriwyks
Toyota Fan
arriwyks@gmail.com

ImageImageImageImage
Image
Spook
Low Range 4WD
Low Range 4WD
Posts: 134
Joined: Wed Apr 23, 2008 5:34 pm
Town: Swakopmund
Vehicle: Hilux 4Y 4x4 s/cab, 3.0 D-4D
Real Name: Ockie

Re: VPS Paint protection

Post by Spook »

Miskien moet julle aanvaar daar's beperkings aan alles? Hier by ons aan die kus van Namibië is beskerming teen die oosweer en sand amper noodsaaklik. Ek het my 3.0 D4-D laat plak met VPS slegs in sy gesig waar dit die wind tref, die grille, die misligte en langs die kar waar die klippies op die grondpad hom sal slaan. Dit het my R2000 gekos en vandag, 3 jaar later, het die donkerblou bakkie nog nie 'n klipmerkie op hom nie! En hy ry grondpad gereeld @ 140 gemiddeld ongeveer. Ek dink dis definitief die geld werd.....kom kyk hoe lyk bakkies van die klippe na 3 jaar en kry dan 'n kwotasie vir respray die dag as jy hom wil smous. Veel meer as R2000!
BenHur
Monster Truck
Monster Truck
Posts: 5906
Joined: Fri May 18, 2007 7:12 pm
Town: Pretoria
Vehicle: '96 D/C Raider
Real Name: Bennie
Location: Doornpoort

Re: VPS Paint protection

Post by BenHur »

Teen R2000 sou ek dit oorweeg het maar teen die rip off prys wat hulle hier vra (R 4000 vir die voorkant alleen) is dit nie vir my die moeite werd gewees nie
User avatar
JohanM
Monster Truck
Monster Truck
Posts: 4047
Joined: Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:33 pm
Town: Meyerton
Vehicle: Prado 120 4.0 V6
Real Name: Johan
Club VHF Licence: HC126
Location: Gauteng
Contact:

Re: VPS Paint protection

Post by JohanM »

Bennie, ek stem saam.

Hulle wil R 11500 hê om die Fortuner te doen. Dit is baie geld vir plastiek op `n kar!! :twisted:
Ons sal dalk wel later dit oorweeg maar nou is hulle heeltemal te duur, sal kyk of hulle nie wil die prys goedkoper maak omdat die motor verkope so gedaal het nie... :twisted:

Ek kan my bakkie vir daai prys laat oorverf by `n Paneelklopper. Anyway die verf wat nou op is is 19 jaar oud en begin nou eers erg verdof.

:mrgreen:
Johan Marais
Arri
High Range 4WD
High Range 4WD
Posts: 92
Joined: Sat May 03, 2008 8:44 pm
Town: Pretoria
Vehicle: Toyota Hilux 2.7VVT-i Raised Body Raider s/c lwb 2008
Real Name: Arno
Location: Pretoria

Re: VPS Paint protection

Post by Arri »

J dis baie vir sticker, die produk werk en hoe kwaliteit, maar net omdat iets goed is beteken nie dat jy mense moet deur die ore roof nie. Hulle dink ouens met 4x4 het te veel geld om te mors op accessories en so, dis seker waar maar vir daai prys kan ek byvoorbeeld 'n amper nuwe ARB replacement bumper kry of my hele voertuig laat respray na al die jare se krappies. Ek sal muskien hulle foglite protection vat want ek het egr lig skerms wat baie nice werk maar kry nie vir die mis liggies nie en hulle is sit heet laag op die bumper , maar ek is te bang hulle vra my R1000.00 vir die twee ronde deurskynende plakkertjies, so ek dink nog aan my eie fog lamp covers laat sny.....
Arriwyks
Toyota Fan
arriwyks@gmail.com

ImageImageImageImage
Image
DOELLOOS

Re: VPS Paint protection

Post by DOELLOOS »

Ek dink die goed is baie goeie kwaliteit en die tyd wat hulle spandeer om dit op te sit is seker nie min nie...
Arri
High Range 4WD
High Range 4WD
Posts: 92
Joined: Sat May 03, 2008 8:44 pm
Town: Pretoria
Vehicle: Toyota Hilux 2.7VVT-i Raised Body Raider s/c lwb 2008
Real Name: Arno
Location: Pretoria

Re: VPS Paint protection

Post by Arri »

Volgens my navorsing en wat ek by ouens hoor is die VPS die beste "stick on protections" En ja dit vat vaardigheid en tyd moeite en gedult om dit profesioneel te laat isntaleer, die oppervlak moet skoon gemaak word ens, dit is vliegtuig standaard en word op jets ook gebruik, Hulle het alleen reg op die produk wat deur 3M gemaak word Maar dit alles in ag geneem dit is nog steeds nie verkoning om sulke buitensporige pryse te vra nie, Dit is vrek duur maar as jy dit byvoorbeelld by 'n gewone motorshop oorsee koop kos dit jou $250.00 vir die voorkant, ligte en spieelties dis +/- R1,946.97 dit is die winkel prys en nie die handellaars prys nie. Jy kry dit "pre-cut met laser en computer" vir omtrent enige voertuig; jy kan dit self isntalleer as jy die instruksies volg soos by:http://www.ilovemymotor.com/pdf/install ... ctions.pdf
en jy het n steady hand en oog'kan jy dit self aansit, Ek sal nie dit probeer nie.
So se nou maar dit kos R2000.00 vir die voorste stukke en fenders, en kom ons se daai outjie is 'n spesialis en hy kry R1000.00 'n uur vir sy arbeid en vat 2 ure om dit mooi te set. En die besigheid vat R2000.00 net vir skoon wins, dan werk dit R6000.00 uit dis nou sonder handellaars pryse en lokale 3M support. Waar kom die extra R3000.00 vandaan om R9000.00 op te maak? Ek het niks teen VPS nie is maar net jalloers omdat ek daai ek daai R9k op petrol en kruidenierswaarde moet spandeer en nie VPS kan bekostig nie.Maar ek voel ook so lank Suid Afrikaners berresi is om enige prys te aanvaar sal handellaars aanhou ons uitbuit. Geen wonder die Chinese vat oor orals en maak lokale besighede dood nie al is hulle kwaliteid bevraagbaar?
Arriwyks
Toyota Fan
arriwyks@gmail.com

ImageImageImageImage
Image
User avatar
Scorpion
Monster Truck
Monster Truck
Posts: 2158
Joined: Wed Jan 16, 2008 6:31 pm
Town: Emmarentia
Vehicle: 1988 Hilux 4x4 D/C with more attitude than Mike Tyson
Real Name: Johann
Location: Constant Kloof

Re: VPS Paint protection

Post by Scorpion »

Ewald, het jy aandele in VPS? :twisted:
1988 Hilex D/C 4x4 (Import spec), Lexus V8; Marlin Crawler; Custom Suspension: front and new 4 link in the rear; Disc Brake conversion rear; 35" Cooper STT tyres; Xenon lights; Custom bullbar;Next? Aircon; new front seats, redo the whole interior in nice soft leather, Respray, Double Lockers
1978 Land Cruiser HJ45
1971 Mercedes Benz 280S Automatic
2011 Land Cruiser 79 V6 (60th Anniversary Edition)
Arri
High Range 4WD
High Range 4WD
Posts: 92
Joined: Sat May 03, 2008 8:44 pm
Town: Pretoria
Vehicle: Toyota Hilux 2.7VVT-i Raised Body Raider s/c lwb 2008
Real Name: Arno
Location: Pretoria

Re: VPS Paint protection

Post by Arri »

Muskien die lokale fitment centre..... ?

Maar ernstig dit is die beste produk van sy tipe en was deur 3M Scotchgardâ„¢ ontwikkel om vliegtuig en helikopter lemme se beskerm. Maar 9K om jou voertuig se voorkant te laat doen en aan die einde vand die dag is dit net hoe kwaliteit deurskynede stikcker, dis moeilik om die prys te regverdig in die swaer tye wat ons in lewe
Arriwyks
Toyota Fan
arriwyks@gmail.com

ImageImageImageImage
Image
User avatar
Buffel
Low Range 4WD
Low Range 4WD
Posts: 127
Joined: Fri Jun 20, 2008 1:03 pm
Town: Kathu
Vehicle: Toyota Hilux D/C v6 4x4 VVTI & SFA D/C 4X4 Lexus
Real Name: Stephan
Location: Kalahari

Re: VPS Paint protection

Post by Buffel »

Eerstens Arri baie welkom en dan Arri wat worry jy,die ding behoort in elk geval aan die bank meeste van die tyd wat jy hom ry,daarna ruil jy hom in en gee hulle jou bykans boggerol vir hom as jy n ander wil koop,hetsy inruil of verkoop ons weet mos hoe werk dit in die ou Landjie van ons.Daar sal beslis iets wees wat nie reg is of km wat te hoog, of dis te ou model die ou dealertjie sal dit vir jou uitwys.Moenie vir hom n sales pitch gee om weer vir hom en sy ou bank hope geld te laat maak nie. .. So geniet die ding en ry hom hy kos klaar meer as wat hy regtig werd is.(te danke aan banke)
http://s1052.photobucket.com/user/Busht ... sort=3&o=8http://s1052.photobucket.com/user/Busht ... sort=3&o=9Hilux v6 vvti 4.0 4x4 & SFA D/C Lockers front and rear v8 Lexus 35" BF Muds + Winch
VPS Head Office
Newbie
Posts: 3
Joined: Sun Aug 24, 2008 10:00 am
Town: Pinetown
Vehicle: Range Rover Sport
Real Name: George Ross

Re: VPS Paint protection

Post by VPS Head Office »

Arri wrote:Volgens my navorsing en wat ek by ouens hoor is die VPS die beste "stick on protections" En ja dit vat vaardigheid en tyd moeite en gedult om dit profesioneel te laat isntaleer, die oppervlak moet skoon gemaak word ens, dit is vliegtuig standaard en word op jets ook gebruik, Hulle het alleen reg op die produk wat deur 3M gemaak word Maar dit alles in ag geneem dit is nog steeds nie verkoning om sulke buitensporige pryse te vra nie, Dit is vrek duur maar as jy dit byvoorbeelld by 'n gewone motorshop oorsee koop kos dit jou $250.00 vir die voorkant, ligte en spieelties dis +/- R1,946.97 dit is die winkel prys en nie die handellaars prys nie. Jy kry dit "pre-cut met laser en computer" vir omtrent enige voertuig; jy kan dit self isntalleer as jy die instruksies volg soos by:http://www.ilovemymotor.com/pdf/install ... ctions.pdf
en jy het n steady hand en oog'kan jy dit self aansit, Ek sal nie dit probeer nie.
So se nou maar dit kos R2000.00 vir die voorste stukke en fenders, en kom ons se daai outjie is 'n spesialis en hy kry R1000.00 'n uur vir sy arbeid en vat 2 ure om dit mooi te set. En die besigheid vat R2000.00 net vir skoon wins, dan werk dit R6000.00 uit dis nou sonder handellaars pryse en lokale 3M support. Waar kom die extra R3000.00 vandaan om R9000.00 op te maak? Ek het niks teen VPS nie is maar net jalloers omdat ek daai ek daai R9k op petrol en kruidenierswaarde moet spandeer en nie VPS kan bekostig nie.Maar ek voel ook so lank Suid Afrikaners berresi is om enige prys te aanvaar sal handellaars aanhou ons uitbuit. Geen wonder die Chinese vat oor orals en maak lokale besighede dood nie al is hulle kwaliteid bevraagbaar?
Hi Almal,

Ek is bly om te sien ons produk word soveel in hierdie forum bespreek, maar ek is egter bekommerd dat die pryse daarvan as 'n "rip-off" beskou word. Ek voel ek moet eerstens Arri se kosteberekenings regstel.

VPS is op 'n "Franchise" struktuur gebaseer, en alhoewel Hoofkantoor riglynpryse daarstel, bepaal elke agent sy eie prys struktuur. Die riglynprys vir die voorkant (dws enjinkap, buffer en koplampe) is R2824 uitsluitend BTW, en die die kante van die voertuig tot vensterhoogte is R8100 uitsluitend BTW. (Ek verstaan nie waar kom Arri aan R9k vir 'n voorkant nie.) Van ons agente vra meer as die riglynprys, terwyl ander minder vra. Sekere van hulle word gedwing om hulle pryse te lig ten einde die motorhandelaars se ondersteuning te kry sodat die handelaar 'n fris wins op ons produk kan maak.

Arri se naavorsing is reg daarin dat die voorkantskild so ca R1900-R2000 kos in die VSA sonder aanwendingsaarbeid maar onthou daar is verskeping, invoerbelasting en verspreidingkoste om dan nog in berekening te bring voordat die artikel hier aankom. Die aanwending neem ca 3 1/2 uur met 'n span van twee ouens, en die aanwender moet ook 'n wins maak. Daar is egter 'n groot verskil tussen die beskerming wat ons bied, en die wat die "Computer-Cut kits" vannuit die VSA bied. Ons is bewus dat ons produk duur is, en is veral gevoelig daarvoor noudat daar heelwat kompeterende produkte op die Suid Afrikaanse mark begin verskyn. Ons produk is ongelukkig die duurste beskibaar in die VSA en ons het in die laaste twee jaar prystuigings van ca 48% ondervind op die materiaalkoste uit die VSA.(Elke keer as die oliepryse styg word ons gelooi) Ons probeer koste beperk waar moontlik en ek will graag almal verseker dat pryse so laag moontik gehou word.

Soos in enige vrymarkstelsel wil ek graag aanbeveel dat pryse by verskillende VPS agente verkry word voordat daar besluit word op VPS al dan nie.

Groetnis en dankie aan Pieter dat ek die geleentheid gegun is om ons saak te stel.

George Ross
VPS Hoofkantoor

Hi All,

I responded to Arri's post in Afrikaans as that was the language of his original post. I have been asked to repeat this posting in English in order to accommodate English members of the forum, so here goes!

I am pleased to learn that our product is discussed to the extent it has been in this forum, but I am most concerned that the pricing is considered to be a "rip-off". Firstly, I must rectify the costing calculations done by Arri as follows:

The VPS network of agents is based on a franchised structure and, whilst Head Office produces pricing guidelines, VPS agents are permitted determine their own selling price structures. The guide price for frontal protection (bonnet, bumper and headlights) is R2824 excluding VAT, and that for the sides up to window sill height is R8100 excluding VAT. (I don't understand where Arri gets R9k for a frontal protection) Certain of our agents charge more than the guide price, whilst others charge less. In some cases they are forced to raise their prices in order to gain the support of motor dealers in their area so as to ensure a substantial profit for the motor dealer when selling our product.

Arri's research is correct in so far as a frontal protection kit is available from some outlets in the USA for the equivalent of ca R1900-R2000 excluding labour for fitting. There are however other costs to consider, such as shipping, import duties and distribution costs before the article arrives on our shores. The application process takes ca 3 1/2 hours using a team of 2 fitters, and the fitment centre must of course make a profit. There is however a vast difference between the degree of protection provided by us, as opposed to that provided by the computer cut kits ex the USA. We are very aware that our product is expensive, and we are particularly sensitive to this in view of the numerous competitive products entering the South African market. Unfortunately the film we use is the most expensive available in the USA and we have experienced material cost increases of approximately 48% over the past two years. (Whenever the price of oil goes up we are hammered) We endeavour to contain costs where possible and I can give you the assurance that prices are being kept as low as possible.

As in any free market system I wish to reccommend that prices be obtained from different VPS agents before deciding on having the product fitted.

Best regards and many thanks to Pieter for affording me the opportunity of stating our case in this forum.

George Ross
VPS Head Office
PS: Not in the original post - VPS is not for everyone. Customers who have used the product consider it good value for money and invariably have subsequent vehicles protected
Last edited by VPS Head Office on Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:26 am, edited 1 time in total.
BenHur
Monster Truck
Monster Truck
Posts: 5906
Joined: Fri May 18, 2007 7:12 pm
Town: Pretoria
Vehicle: '96 D/C Raider
Real Name: Bennie
Location: Doornpoort

Re: VPS Paint protection

Post by BenHur »

Hi

Welcome and thanks for posting a responce here on our forum. For the sake of our Eglish membered would you not repeat your post in English as well?

I to got this ridiculous quote from your out let in Menlyn( over R5K) for just my colour coded ARB bullbar, lights and a 10mm strip in the seme place where bonnet protector's are fitted :cry: :cry:
User avatar
Family_Dog
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 12696
Joined: Tue May 22, 2007 10:09 am
Town: Klerksdorp
Vehicle: Hilux DC SFA, Hilux 2.7 DC, Hilux 2.7 SC, Prado 95 VX
Real Name: Eric
Club VHF Licence: HC101
Location: Klerksdorp, NW
Contact:

Re: VPS Paint protection

Post by Family_Dog »

I was chatting to a local company this afternoon, who apply VPS film on vehicles. Apparently, they are not VPS-approved fitters and buy their VPS from a middle party, but when I asked why they didn't then use one of the competitive products, they stated that simply because VPS is the best! It seems the other products (or some of them) interact with something (I've forgotten the name) and also do not have the same stretch factor when it comes to stretching over funny places. Whatever, the green Mazda that they did today looked quite sexy in her new covering! :)


-F_D
Image

White Fang: 1999 2.7i DC Raider 4x4
Bull Dog: 1987 4Y-EFI 2.2 DC 4x4
Pra Dog: 1998 Prado VX 3.4
Hound Dog: 2000 2.7i SC 4x4


One Staffie, One Jack Russell, One Ring Neck Screecher, 17 Fish of questionable heritage


Image
VPS Head Office
Newbie
Posts: 3
Joined: Sun Aug 24, 2008 10:00 am
Town: Pinetown
Vehicle: Range Rover Sport
Real Name: George Ross

Re: VPS Paint protection

Post by VPS Head Office »

Family_BullDog wrote:I was chatting to a local company this afternoon, who apply VPS film on vehicles. Apparently, they are not VPS-approved fitters and buy their VPS from a middle party, but when I asked why they didn't then use one of the competitive products, they stated that simply because VPS is the best! It seems the other products (or some of them) interact with something (I've forgotten the name) and also do not have the same stretch factor when it comes to stretching over funny places. Whatever, the green Mazda that they did today looked quite sexy in her new covering! :)


-F_D
Hi Eric,

The film branded as VPS is a 3M polyurethane film manufactured specifically for the automotive market. It is designed to match the texture of modern automotive paint finishes and has a clearcoat which provides a lasting high gloss. It is also designed to be UV stable in itself, but despite this it allows UV light to be transmitted through it to the protected paint finish below. If this were not the case differential fading could occur and the vehicle would then end up with two different shades of paint colour on areas where partial panels were protected.

3M manufacture a vast range of different polyurethane films, each with a specific application. Many of these are not UV stable or colour stable, and will look good on a vehicle only for a short period of time.

The company you refer to may be using a 3M polyurethane film, but it is very definitely not VPS, as the VPS film is only available to us from 3M on contract, and we supply only authorised VPS agents who have been suitably trained in our Pinetown training centre.

We are most concerned if a company in Klerksdorp is passing off their product as VPS, as we have no control over the quality of their work and could have their customers approaching us for warranty claims on film which is not ours in the first place. We also object most strongly to them quoting our branding in this manner.

We have no problem with them fitting polyurethane film to motor vehicles, but we object most strongly to them quoting our branding in this manner. they are misleading their customers by stating that they fit VPS film as that is definitely not the case. Their customers would not receive the benefit of our quality control or national warranty backup, and should be made aware of this fact.

We would very much appreciate it if you would let us know which company this is so that we can terminate a practice which is nothing short of brand pirating and places customers at risk.

You can email me directly to rossg@vpsprotection.co.za , or email me via our website http://www.vpsprotection.co.za if you would rather not involve the forum in this matter.

best regards

George Ross
VPS head Office
Arri
High Range 4WD
High Range 4WD
Posts: 92
Joined: Sat May 03, 2008 8:44 pm
Town: Pretoria
Vehicle: Toyota Hilux 2.7VVT-i Raised Body Raider s/c lwb 2008
Real Name: Arno
Location: Pretoria

Re: VPS Paint protection

Post by Arri »

Hi George, thanks for your reply and all the feedback regarding the product. I do not dispute 3m film's quality or vps. I have seen it's performance in the desert race. It's jus that myself an so many of my buddys who purchased new vehicles, eagerly wanted to fit vps on our Hiluxes and Fortuners, and then got a shock of our lives when we obtained quotes. One of my friends who purchased a Fortuner earlier this year went to the place in Centurion and then they quoted him something like 15k....He said he would rather respray his vehicle when the time comes. There is a new product from vps I am also considering, it's called clearplex and protects your windscreen from stone chips and cracks. autozone is selling a carbra for Hilux for round about R850-00 it migh be a worthwhile investment to protect your vehicles front end.....

Regards
Arri
Arriwyks
Toyota Fan
arriwyks@gmail.com

ImageImageImageImage
Image
VPS Head Office
Newbie
Posts: 3
Joined: Sun Aug 24, 2008 10:00 am
Town: Pinetown
Vehicle: Range Rover Sport
Real Name: George Ross

Re: VPS Paint protection

Post by VPS Head Office »

Arri wrote:Hi George, thanks for your reply and all the feedback regarding the product. I do not dispute 3m film's quality or vps. I have seen it's performance in the desert race. It's jus that myself an so many of my buddys who purchased new vehicles, eagerly wanted to fit vps on our Hiluxes and Fortuners, and then got a shock of our lives when we obtained quotes. One of my friends who purchased a Fortuner earlier this year went to the place in Centurion and then they quoted him something like 15k....He said he would rather respray his vehicle when the time comes. There is a new product from vps I am also considering, it's called clearplex and protects your windscreen from stone chips and cracks. autozone is selling a carbra for Hilux for round about R850-00 it migh be a worthwhile investment to protect your vehicles front end.....

Regards
Arri
Hi Arri,

Thanks for your comments. I am surprised at the quote obtained from a place in Centurion by your friend. The authorised VPS Centre in Centurion was terminated off the VPS network on 31 Janury 2008, some 19 months ago. A new VPS centre will be established in Centurion before the end of 2009, but in the meantime we do not have representation there. There are other parties purportng to be fitting VPS, but these are not authorised agents and their work is not backed by our national warranty. I cannot comment on pricing, other than to suggest that competitive quotes should be obtained where possible, in order to allow the freemarket system to function. At VPS Head Office we do not prescribe prices, but merely offer guidelines, and with the economy being what it is at present, many VPS centres are working considerably below the suggested prices.

The ClearPlex Windscreen Protection ilm you mention is not a VPS product. It is offered by certain of the VPS agents with our blessing, but the product itself is distributed by ClearPlex South Africa, and is available to all reputable "Smash & Grab" outlets across the RSA and Namibia. Their website is http://www.clearplex.co.za and a list of installers is available there.

Kind regards and best wishes

George
User avatar
tersmit
LR 4WD Full Lockers
LR 4WD Full Lockers
Posts: 564
Joined: Mon Aug 30, 2010 8:51 pm
Town: Durbanville Cape Town
Vehicle: '06 Hilux 4x4 4.0 Auto D/C, 185a/h Dual Battery Sistem, 1500w inverter
Real Name: Tertius

Re: VPS Paint protection

Post by tersmit »

Na gister se speel by Atlantis is die Silwer lux nou weer VOL krappe, lek asof my kinders met 'n staalborsel gespeel het !!
het gou die ouens in Brackenfell gebel, en dit is R11 000-00 om die lux te doen, dan waarborg hulle dit vir 5 jaar !!
Hulle reken ook dat as die plastiek film krappe kry, vat jjy net spirits en vee dit af.
Ek dink ek gaat maar belê in dit, my arms gaan af wees na 'n dag se polish om daai krappies uit te haal.
Attachments
krappe3.jpg
krappe2.jpg
krappe.jpg
User avatar
Niel
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 7372
Joined: Sun Jul 15, 2007 10:07 pm
Town: Cape Town
Vehicle: 2014, DC, D4D 3.0, 4x4
Real Name: Niel
Location: Bellville
Contact:

Re: VPS Paint protection

Post by Niel »

Daar is n goedkoper alternatief :blushing: moennie ry waar hy gekrap gaan word nie :twisted: :lmao:
User avatar
tersmit
LR 4WD Full Lockers
LR 4WD Full Lockers
Posts: 564
Joined: Mon Aug 30, 2010 8:51 pm
Town: Durbanville Cape Town
Vehicle: '06 Hilux 4x4 4.0 Auto D/C, 185a/h Dual Battery Sistem, 1500w inverter
Real Name: Tertius

Re: VPS Paint protection

Post by tersmit »

How much fun would that be !!
User avatar
Niel
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 7372
Joined: Sun Jul 15, 2007 10:07 pm
Town: Cape Town
Vehicle: 2014, DC, D4D 3.0, 4x4
Real Name: Niel
Location: Bellville
Contact:

Re: VPS Paint protection

Post by Niel »

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
User avatar
Mud Dog
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 29857
Joined: Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:18 am
Town: East London
Vehicle: '90 SFA Hilux DC 4X4, Full OME, 110mm lift. Brospeed branch, 50mm ss freeflow exhaust. 30 x 9.5 Discoverer S/T's on Viper mags. L/R tank. (AWOL) '98 LTD 2.4 SFA, dual battery system. Dobinson suspension, LR tanks, 31" BF mud's.
Real Name: Andy
Club VHF Licence: HC103

Re: VPS Paint protection

Post by Mud Dog »

Niel wrote:Daar is n goedkoper alternatief :blushing: moennie ry waar hy gekrap gaan word nie :twisted: :lmao:
En ry met 'n panga / machete agter die seat saam. :D: ;-)
When your road comes to an end ...... you need a HILUX!.

Image
Image

Life is like a jar of Jalapeño peppers ... what you do today, might burn your ass tomorrow.
Don't take life too seriously ..... no-one gets out alive.
It's not about waiting for storms to pass. It's about learning to dance in the rain.
And be yourself ..... everyone else is taken!
Post Reply

Return to “4x2 Hilux's Welcome”