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Fri Apr 11, 2014 10:31 am

Hi guys
Im in a dilema ...i saw the new hilux dakar as well as new ranger 2.2xls.
Which will be a better buy..from a resale perspective as well as comfort...

Both vehicles are 10k apart..obe also been told the new hilux is changing shape next year..will appreciate your help on the decision to go..

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Welcome Adesh... What is the answer you expect? :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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Which one do i buy...im concerned on resale and reliability

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Fri Apr 11, 2014 11:37 am

adeshx wrote:Which one do i buy...im concerned on resale and reliability
I you are concerned about that... you already know the answer :thumbup: :twisted:
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Fri Apr 11, 2014 11:38 am

This is a Hilux forum. Most dudes here will tell you that for both reliability and resale, go Lux.
If there is a Ranger forum, they'll tell you go Ranger.
If there is not a Ranger forum, ask yourself why not, and why a bunch of guys and girls who live such diverse lives will come together on a forum such as this one to not only support their Luxes, but each other too... And why the Ford fans don't...
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Fri Apr 11, 2014 11:54 am

History will show you that the Ford Ranger's reputation has been more up and down than that of a mattress in a brothel ! :shock:

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Welcome :wave:
Toyota all the way,but would not opt for the Dakar version,overpriced for a few stickers,Embroided and external bits.
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Fri Apr 11, 2014 12:22 pm

The man has a valid question, if you remove all badges and go for a test drive, you will buy the Ford, it has better roadholding, brakes, power and comfort.
The Hilux has better build quality, is the best off-road, will last longer and has better resale value, it has the best low down power and it's lighter on fuel in "working" conditions, all things cosidered, a better but not "nicer" vehicle.
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Fri Apr 11, 2014 12:25 pm

Hoppy wrote:The man has a valid question, if you remove all badges and go for a test drive, you will buy the Ford, it has better roadholding, brakes, power and comfort.
The Hilux has better build quality, is the best off-road, will last longer and has better resale value, it has the best low down power and it's lighter on fuel in "working" conditions, all things cosidered, a better but not "nicer" vehicle.
Very well put Hoppy.
Also like the shape of the Ford.
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Fri Apr 11, 2014 12:33 pm

Agree 100% Allan but the Ford has a long way to go to earn trust through reliability - as the Hilux enjoys.

My farther had 2 Rangers (previous) models - and as I die hard Ford fan will never buy a Ford again due to brake downs and issues.

I am a VW fan but the Amarok is in the same boat as the Ford. Time will tell.

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ThysdJ wrote:Welcome Adesh... What is the answer you expect? :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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Warrior wrote:History will show you that the Ford Ranger's reputation has been more up and down than that of a mattress in a brothel ! :shock:
More down that up.
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Fri Apr 11, 2014 4:11 pm

And here I am in the process to get a first gen 2005 ford supercab for work. Still won't sell my hilux to buy a Ford tho. Hilux are just too good in reliability went through 3 2700i and just no issues at all other than the fuel they love.
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Fri Apr 11, 2014 6:00 pm

We owned a legend40 and now a Dakar. When we traded in the legend40 we actually got change in our pocket after settling the bank. Few vehicles have such good trade/resale and that is what makes a Hilux a good buy. The d4d can be very light on diesel if driven conservatively.

With the Dakar model you basically paying for a few nice cosmetics. The black leather seats with red stitching is nice. I'm guessing you going to be buying 4x2, because if you intend to go off-roading rather save the premium and put it towards proper suspension and a bullbar etc on a normal Raider unless you getting a real good deal. All those nice s/s accessories will get damaged.

Truth is the current Hilux is very boring. Every brand has there pro's and cons so test drive both and decide for yourself. When I first saw the Triton I told myself how could anyone drive that thing. Guess what, we now own one.

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Fri Apr 11, 2014 8:02 pm

I was sitting with the same question before I bought my lux. ford looks nice and has more luxuries etc etc. then started searching good and bad about both, found lots and lots of complaints about the ford gearboxes and software issues and and and . then I bought my lux and could not have been happier.

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Fri Apr 11, 2014 8:27 pm

Just think about it, if you open your garage door in the morning, which one
would you like to see standing there waiting for you.

I know which one I would go for, as do many other forum users I suppose.

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Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:08 am

So i popped into my local dealer and drove a 2.5d..it felt a bit dead..she then suggested a 3.0d auto...that will set me back r420k...for the dakar package..so the ranger is off the cards for now...now which is better resale a 3.0 manual or auto?

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Fri Apr 18, 2014 3:20 pm

Which is a better vehicle..the auto or manual 3ld4d when towing and most of when it comes to resale...i cant believe that even over the r400kark dealers cant get me colours for the hilux dakar...g

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Fri Apr 18, 2014 4:43 pm

The manual D4D is the better one for resale.

That is one negative thing about Toyota dealers, you can call it "arrogant", because they sell so many vehicles, it's hard to find a salesman that will go the extra mile for you.
A friend of mine bought a 3.o D4D, and had the same problem, i started phoning different dealers and played them up against each other, i managed to get the vehicle R30 000.00 cheaper in the end.
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Fri Apr 25, 2014 10:47 am

Hi guys new to the forum, traded my 2.2 Ranger on the 2.5 Hilux a few weeks back. Will never touch Ford again, rubbish. Nice looks but absolute pathetic quality. Maybe I just had a bad experience, but in my opinion cannot compare difference in quality between Hilux and Ranger. Only had Ranger for 7000km and one year of which it spent nearly three months in workshop for repairs.
Ford also have a bad attitude toward customers with warranty issues etc.

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Fri Apr 25, 2014 10:55 am

Welcome you Wise man :laugh2: :laugh2: enjoy the forum !! why not become a member of the club :?: :?:

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ROOFER wrote:Welcome you Wise man :laugh2: :laugh2: enjoy the forum !! why not become a member of the club :?: :?:
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Die Toyota ouens gee maklik R40k weg op die Hiluxe deesdae.........Ek weet, want dis blerrie moeilik om aan 'n klient te verduidelik hoekom Toyota R40k meer vir sy Fortuner inruiling betaal as die tjek wat ons by Toyota kan kry as hulle dieselfde voertuig van ons af inkoop........met ONS bedoel ek 'n VW handelaar. :wink2:
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OOooooo..........indien jy nie weet nie. Dindag is die dag voor maandeinde. SOOO......dis die beste dag om grooooot discount te beding op enige voertuig wat op die vloer staan.
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Fri Apr 25, 2014 4:51 pm

Na 4 jaar se gebruik op my D4D 4x4 Hilux dc het ek dieselfde inrul gerkry as wat vir hom betaal het. Natuurlik verstaan ek die infalsie ect, maar dit het my instaat gestel om my Fortuner te koop en 'n laer premie te betaal. So het my 2,7 my gehelp om die Hilux D4d te koop. So inruil op Toy het nog net in my guns getel, lae kilo's en mooi opgepas.

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Fri Apr 25, 2014 9:43 pm

Take a drive, a long drive, see how many fords you meet. Go to the EC, go north into Africa, spares, reliability, build quality all make Toyoto king in Africa. How many taxis does ford make? Nada.

We have been using fords at work for the 11 years I have been here, spend a lot of time going for repairs. And off road just can't match Toyota.

The latest Ranger model I find very hard on the suspension side. If you want comfort get a ford, if you want bling get a ford, if you wanna go far and come back every time, it's obvious.

Ask yourself why do places like Namibia, Lesotho and Botswana govs all use Toyota. Even abroad Toyota still holds its ground.
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I bought my 2.7! 35 legend shape many years ago (2nd hand) and although its not used daily and in immaculate condition with low mileage, I was offered a lot more than what I paid, and that's without accessories! There's no other ordinary vehicle brand in this country and apparently Down Under and even in the States that can compare with this. If I was in the market for a new truck right now, I'll wait for the new Hilux. Its simply the best most reliable vehicle. Before the Lux one of the vehicle's I had was a 2.5 Ranger (2000 model), and although, I liked the power, the gearbox gave me endless trouble. The new Ranger is a nice ride, with good looks and lots of power but its not reliable.
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Sat Apr 26, 2014 8:25 am

swartvark wrote:OOooooo..........indien jy nie weet nie. Dindag is die dag voor maandeinde. SOOO......dis die beste dag om grooooot discount te beding op enige voertuig wat op die vloer staan.
Snaaks dat jy dit noem.'n Vriend van my het dit ook gese.Aan die einde van die maand moet manne hulle targets maak en dan kom die groot afslag.Aan die begin van die maand jaag hulle kopmmisie en dan is afslag maar min
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Sat Apr 26, 2014 11:48 am

george wrote:
swartvark wrote:OOooooo..........indien jy nie weet nie. Dindag is die dag voor maandeinde. SOOO......dis die beste dag om grooooot discount te beding op enige voertuig wat op die vloer staan.
Snaaks dat jy dit noem.'n Vriend van my het dit ook gese.Aan die einde van die maand moet manne hulle targets maak en dan kom die groot afslag.Aan die begin van die maand jaag hulle kopmmisie en dan is afslag maar min

:lol: Daar's niks snaaks omtrent maandeinde op 'n showroom vloer nie..........groot stress = groot afslag. :lol:
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