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Tue Mar 18, 2008 10:41 pm

Guys I'm costing myself allot of money, guess its inexperience and not listening.

I bought the 2nd-hand complete diff with a gearmax diff-lock in for R4000 as mentioned in another post, at the time it seemed like a good idea saving R800 (as a new one fitted at gearmax was R4800, + I had a spare diff for spares).

This was the beginning of a losing streek for me. Bought the diff complete and all seemed fine, when I started to install it, I noticed the one diff tube had a big dent in it, and saw that the one side shaft was bent a little bit. Cleaver me decided to put the diff-lock centre portion from the 2nd-hand diff into my diff casing, and use my old sideshafts. All went well with the transplant but then driving the vehicle, the diff made a terrable noise. Found out later that I didnt centre the centreportion right, and there were no clearance on the crown and pinion.

This cost me R3540 for gearmax to overhaul the whole diff, cause I messed up the gears. OK so now what could have cost me R4800 (no labour on my side), is costing me R7540 + 2 days labour.

I installed the wiring and vacuum as well, then noticed the solenoid isnt working, another R300 bucks, so I'm at R7840.

Now my bakkie is 100 again, locker working, BUT, and yes its seems like its still not 100% right. What I have heard about the gearmax locker seems to be true, as soon as it gets old, the problems start.

So here is my question: The locker ingages fine, but as soon as allot of torque is applied (like spinning or pulling away quickly, or losing traction on an abstacle), the locker disengages and then re-engages as soon as I slow down. I checked the vacuum and its fine, even replaced the pipe from front to back (another R55). The guy at gearmax said it can be the daiphrame in the diff casing that locks the diff, if it losses vacuum there through a tiny leak, it may not pull the lever as well as it should to keep it locked under torque.

As you guys can see I can not spend any more, but I need it to work at least. I have raped my credit card to get my hilux running again. Please any advice as to what can solve this and let my R8K locker work would be appreciated! :oops: :oops: :oops:
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Wed Mar 19, 2008 6:58 am

I sit with exactly the same problem with my Gearmax (at least not money wise). I believe yours also gets it vacuum from the brake booster? I was thinking. Wouldn't it work if one fitted a vacuum pump and rather create a vacuum like that? I just think that for some reason the vacuum from the enigine is not strong enough to hold the diaphram under torque. m2cw
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Wed Mar 19, 2008 7:08 am

Naas, ek is regtig jammer dat hierdie ding nou so moes uitdraai vir jou.

MAAR,

Hopelik help dit jou in die toekoms. Wat nou met jou gebeur het het al baie met my gebeur. Goedkoop koop is vrek duur koop. Onthou hierdie les as jy ooit 'n enjin conversion wil doen - laat dit doen deur die ouens wat dit al laaaaaaaaank doen. Jy sal geld spaar. Jy kon 'n lekker ARB locker gehad het vir daai geld.

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Wed Mar 19, 2008 8:11 am

Dis presies hoe ek maar na dit kyk, bly positief en vat dit as n les en ervaaring. Nie weer vat ek so kans nie.

Cassie ek het ok gedink aan n aparte vacuum pomp, wa kry mens so iets, weet jy? As die prys reg is sal ek een koop en dit try.

Ewald ek wou nog weet, jy het mos jou 7MGTE lorie verkoop, watse Hilux het jy nou?
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Wed Mar 19, 2008 8:23 am

Ewald ry nou sy patrollies, nie meer lus vir sukkel nie!! :twisted:

Naas ek voel vir jou, want is deur dieselfde stront met n Lockright!
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Wed Mar 19, 2008 8:50 am

Naas. Gaan bietjie rondbel. Ek dink mens sal seker een by 4x4Megaworld kan koop want ARB's gebruik ook mos 'n vacuum pomp?

Nee okay... het nou net uit gevind. ARB werk met kompressie en nie vacuum nie. So sal 'n ander plan moet maak en 'n vakuum pomp soek... Sal jou op hoogte hou
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Wed Mar 19, 2008 6:26 pm

What about trucks? Don't they use massive vacuum pumps for their brakes.... or probably not, I think they use compressors too. Simon might have to chirp in here with some advice.

Naas, really sorry to hear about your misfortune. I wanted a Detroit locker, but couldn't get, so decided on an expensive ARB instead for Bulldog. I guess it would be wise to ask Bennie to check it out for me while Bulldog is still in the land of Gold, before I get it back. But I must admit that I do feel easier now about my decision to fit ARB.


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Wed Mar 19, 2008 9:31 pm

Get yourself a diesel engine's alternator. Since diesel engines do not allow you to generate a vacuum from the engine they have vacuum pumps (normally on the alternator) to generate vacuums for things like the brake booster. Not sure if it will fit though (space)

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BenHurBul wrote:Get yourself a diesel engine's alternator. Since diesel engines do not allow you to generate a vacuum from the engine they have vacuum pumps (normally on the alternator) to generate vacuums for things like the brake booster. Not sure if it will fit though (space)
Dankie vir die idee Bennie. Ek sal daai avenue ook opvolg. Ek het intussen aan 'n ander plan gedink net om te kan toets. Mens kry mos hierdie vacuum sealers wat mens kos mee verpak. Ek gaan bietjie rondshop en kyk of ek nie een van daai pompies in die hande kan kry nie. Het geen idee of die sy vermoë enigsings goed genoeg sal wees nie en dit is hoekom ek maar gaan moet eksperimenteer. (en as ek dalk so pompie by Piet kry is dit pietpompies :))
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Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:26 am

Julle werk nou gat oor kop. Vat die ding in gearmax toe en se hulle moet uitsort!!
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Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:32 am

Maar as al die goed dieselfde maak dan moet daar 'n disign flaw wees.... Ek sal net my idee try en kyk wat gebeur.... (sal eers die diff oopmaak en kyk of daar nie iets obvious fout is soos die diaphram wat dalk geskeur het of so iets nie) ...
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Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:46 am

Julle sien om die ding gearmax toe te vat kos nog geld, dis my probleem.

Cassie ek het gisteraand saam van die ander Hilux manne gekuier en ons het toe bietjie gefiddle aan my locker. Eers het ons die bakkie opgelig agter en ek het dan gedien as die vacuum pompie, en het gesuig aan die locker. Hy lock as hulle die wiele draai en dan suig my tong vas, en dit lyk nie asof hy vacuum verloor nie, so dit se hy het nie n lek nie, of dis baie klein. Toe kyk ons na die vacuum source, en sien dat as ons met diff-lock aan ry, en briek hard trap disengage hy, so dit se hy kry nie genoeg vacuum nie. Ek het toe die vacuum van direk op die intake manifold gekry, maar hys nog dieselfde, ek spook ook nog. Gaan iets anders try dan laat weet ek jou.

Is hier die naweek? Ons kan dalk bymekaar kom en koppe saam sit as jy wil. Ek ry Saterdag weg, maar is Vrydag en Maandag hier. Wil gaan speel Vrydag
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Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:16 am

Ek is dalk Maandag beskikbaar as jy dalk iewers wil gaan speel of kyk of ons die ding kan wen. Die res van die naweek het ek SWAMBO 'n paar goed belowe. Sal jou op hoogte hou.

Ek hoop om wel saterdagoggend gou so bietjie te krap en te kyk of ek enige iets kan uitfigure :)
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Thu Mar 20, 2008 4:06 pm

Wies SWAMBO?

Ek wou nou weer Maandag my lorie spring-clean. As jy wil kan jy hier by my kom peuter aan daai locker dan kyk ons saam, ek het n werkswinkel, tools, forklift as dit nodig is. PM my met jou nommer dan kan ons reel.

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Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:14 pm

Ek het vanmiddag gesien toe my buurman 'n ou Jetta 3 gedyno het. Ek dink ek het moontlik 'n oplossing vir julle probleem. Maar ongelukkig is dit 'n lang storie om te verduidelik so lees maar voort.

Die kar het nog sy oorspronklike ECU maar die kar was vreeslik swaar op petrol. Die rede daarvoor is dat die Fuel Pressure Regulator nie meer goed werk nie die petrol druk in die fuel rail te hoog raak as die manifold vacuum val (maw waneer jy die petrol diep intrap) Die manier waarop 'n fuel pressure regulator werk is soos volg: Hy word beheer deur die manifold vacuum en waneer die manifold vacuum min is (vesneller vol oopgetrap) maak hy die fuel pressure in die fuel rail hoog sodat daar baie petrol in deur die injektors gespuit word. Die omgekeerde gebeur ook, maw as jou versneller toe is maak hy die druk laer om die engine leaner te maak want die vacuum wat toegepas word is meer. Op die manier word die petrol mengsel beheer.

Die kar behoort aan 'n geskeide dame wat nie 'n nuwe FPR kan bekostig nie so om die probleem vir haar op te los en die kar leaner te kry moes hy die drukking laer kry in die fuel rail as die verneller oopgetrap is. Om dit te doen moes hy die vacuum op die FPR hoog probeer hou as die manifold vacuum val. Dit was eintlik 'n heel maklik om te doen. Die pyp wat die FPR van vacuum voorsien T in dieselfde pyp wat die brake booster voorsien, maar is teenaan die manifold se kant gekoppel. Hy het toe daardie konnesie afgeblok en 'n ander T-piece in die ander kant van die one way valve gesit wat die vacuum in die brake booster hoog hou waneer die manifold vacuum val. Nou bly die vacuum na die FPR hoog saam met die brake booster. Al waneer die vacuum nou sal val is waneer jy die briek trap. Maar mens trap nie gewoonlik die briek as die versneller vol oopgetrap is nie so dit behoort nie 'n invloed te hê nie.

Dis nou waar die Gearmax Locker inkom. EK het so 'n bietjie gedink aan julle probleem. As ek reg kan onthou het Cassie laas gekla dat die locker disengage waneer hy hard moet werk. Is dit agv die hoë torque waaronder die locker verkeer of omdat die vacuum drasties verminder as jy die versneller vol ooptrap? As jy die vacuum pypie tussen die brake booster en die one way valve koppel sal die vacuum langer op die locker langer gemaintain word as jy die versneller vol ooptrap. Miskien is dit die oplossing vir julle probleem :? :?

As dit erk sal hierdie advies julle R500 kos - dankie :twisted: :twisted:

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Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:42 pm

Bennie. Jy sal my nie glo nie maar ek het vanmiddag so bietjie gaan lees (en nie solitaire gespeel nie) oor die storie en gekyk waar die vacuum oral gebruik word. Dit is al die wat jy verduidelik en dan vir die automatic choke ook. My logika sê nog al die pad vir my dit het iets te doen met die vacuum pressure wat drop en dit is hoekom ek aan 'n eksterne vacuum pompie gedink het. Maar as ek sterker vacuum van die engin kan kry sonder performance issues, is dit presies wat ek soek....

So wat ek nou eintlik vir jou probeer sê is dat jy my idee gesteel het en dat dit jou R500 gaan kos :)... just kidding. Thanks vir die idee. Ek sal dalk vir jou vra om vir my 'n praktiese demonstrasie te moet gee of met die hulp van sketse dit te moet verduidelik :)
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Sat Mar 22, 2008 6:44 pm

Hey Guys. I decided to crawl underneath my lux and see what the issue with the diffloc is. I also took a few photo's should you want to see how it works. So her we go.... (I'm not to sure of all the correct names for all the components... so bear with me)
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This is a photo of the diff cover already stripped from the axel. The lever on the right hand side is pull from the other side by a diaphragm when a vacuum is created. Here is 2 more photos and on the second one I'm pushing the lever by hand to show you the movement. (it is springloaded)
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The movement of the lever moves the loc into place under vacuum. Below is photos. In the first photo the loc is to the right and not locked. In the second photo the loc is to the left and locked. I could move the ring (loc) very easily by hand with no effort at all when the splines of the two axles lined up.
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Below is the outside view of the diff's cover. I have removed the plastic cover from the difflocs vacuum chamber. You will notice the big old fender washer in the middle of the diaphram. Between the diaphragm and lever on the inside is just a normal countersunk bolt. When vacuum is applied, it's pulled towards the viewer (you) and that in turn moves the lever on the inside which moves the ring (loc) into engaged or disengaged position. The plastic cover has got those two springloaded wires and a small airvent to connect the vacuum hose onto. When the diaphragm is pulled in, the wires is shorted out to the fender washer witch in turn turns on the LED on the dashboard informing you that the diff is locked.
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This is the pneumatic solenoid switch which leads to the diffloc
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And this is the T-piece on the brake booster line where the vacuum is generated.
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I must admit that I was sort of impressed with how simple yet very effective it is (when it works). When I drained the oil from the diff it was extremely black and had the smell of grease. So here is what I'm thinking why my diffloc seems to disengage when at full throttle. When at full throttle the vacuum pressure drops and the spring loaded lever wants to move to neutral. With the oil being so think the vacuums pressure is not enough to keep on pushing the loc into place and thus the diffloc disengages.

The reason why I'm thinking it could be the oil is that the diffloc worked like a charm when it was new with no problems at all. I eliminated a few other things like the solenoid valve, the hoses maybe leaking somewhere, the diaphragm torn etc. All of these things still looks like new and is still workings 100%. So the only thing that changed.... the oil viscosity. I can only prove this when I go out to play again and will keep you posted.

I apologise for any spelling or gramar mistakes :)
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Sat Mar 22, 2008 8:34 pm

Cassie,

You're braver than I am! It's great to see the insides of the diff-lock, and also your excellent explanation makes it seem oh, so easy! Your theory on oil viscosity seems to make sense as well, hope it's going to work out for you when you test the bakkie again. What oil viscosity did you use when replacing the oil?


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Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:06 am

Hi guys,

Victor had exactly the same problem with his locker, and he simply installed a vacuum reservoir tank. End of problems.

Just install a litre or two reservoir somewhere in the line with a non-return valve, and it works like a charm. When the engine doesn't deliver enough vacuum at a given point, the tank will keep the vacuum nice and healthy, and no more difflock problems.

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Ek stem saam met Ewald.jy het meer gereguleerde druk of vacuum deur n air receiver.Selfde soos met n kompressor.
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Family_BullDog wrote:Cassie,

You're braver than I am! It's great to see the insides of the diff-lock, and also your excellent explanation makes it seem oh, so easy! Your theory on oil viscosity seems to make sense as well, hope it's going to work out for you when you test the bakkie again. What oil viscosity did you use when replacing the oil?
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Eric, according to the manual I have, I replace it with SAE90. I was very tempted to add prolong diff treatment but desided against it. The diff took about 1.8L of oil.
Hi guys,

Victor had exactly the same problem with his locker, and he simply installed a vacuum reservoir tank. End of problems.

Just install a litre or two reservoir somewhere in the line with a non-return valve, and it works like a charm. When the engine doesn't deliver enough vacuum at a given point, the tank will keep the vacuum nice and healthy, and no more difflock problems.
Are you talking about Victor in the ToyFord? Do you perhaps no where he got the vacuum reservoir tank from? I've been searching for a vacuum pump but :(. I haven't even thought of the vacuum reservoir because that will actually suite the setup much better :)
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Sun Mar 23, 2008 5:53 pm

Ek stem Ewald, toe jy en Marius my vertel van die vacuum reservoir het ek gedink ek gaan dit try, het net vergeet om te vra waar om een te kry?

Cassie ek glo (en hoop) ook dat die probleem is die vacuum. My locker is 2nd hand en het eers heeltyd uitgespring (met nuwe olie), al pak ek n klein obstacle aan. Toe verander ek my vacuum source weg van die pyp wat na die brake booster gaan, en kry dit direk van die intake manifold af. Reg in die middel aan die onder kant van die manifold is daar so shaft-ding wat uitkom met 2 oorkies waar daar een pypie is van die een oor na die ander. Ek het die pypie gebruik na my solenoid toe en die ander een af geblok. Niel by Rad se bakkie s'n is so, toe maak ek myne ook so.

Rede was dat as ek hard gebriek het het hy ook partykeer uitgespring. Nou dat hy van daar af kom is hy al beter, maar as ek petrol trap dan spring hy ook uit 6 uit 7 keer.

Ons moet daai vacuum tank probeer. Ewald lat weet ons asb waar kan ons een (2, vir my en Cassie) kry asb.
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Sun Mar 23, 2008 6:22 pm

Die vacuum reservoir sal definitief die probleem oplos. Ek het net nooit daaraan gedink nie. So Ewald...... :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Sun Mar 23, 2008 6:27 pm

Cassie, ek het bietjie op die net gesurf toe kom ek op die VW SA forum af, die ou da op het n vacuum reservoir gefit vir sy golf se heater flaps wat met vacuum werk, ek dink dis die ding wat ons soek. Lyk soos n bal.

Ek bel more of Disndag Golfswagen in Jetpark om, te hoor of het hulle nie so iets nie.
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Sun Mar 23, 2008 6:31 pm

Jy sal my nou nie glo nie maar ek het ook dadelik VW gedink. My pêl het 'n ou beatle gery en die se windscreen washer het gewerk deurmiddel van compressed air. Toe begin my gedagtes hol en weet ek hulle like hulle plastic reserviors en miskien het hulle een. Die Golfswagen wat jy vn praat, is / was dit Volkspares voorheen?
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Sun Mar 23, 2008 6:56 pm

Ek dink so ja, is nie te clued up met die VW's nie.

Ek gaan more my lorie was en daai plastiek cover oop maak, my kontak is vuil of iets want as ek begin speod vang dan flikker die liggie mar hy bly engaged, Niel se syne het ok so gemmak. Sommer kyk hoe lyk daai daiphrame.

Kom jy draai more of het SWAMBO jou besig?
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Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:02 pm

Ek het al die naweek rond gehardloop like you won't believe.... ek sal bietjie vir mommy vra of ek more so 'n rukkie kan af kry. Sal jou op hoogte hou :)
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Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:29 am

Dis reg so

Ek sien die plek in Jetpark is Volkspares, Golfwagen is in Benoni, gaan bel en hoor of hulle oop is vandag
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My teorie was to lyk my reg oor die vacuum wat val op full throttle. Cassie van jou foto af kan ek sien dat jou vacuum pypie wel uit tee na die brake booster se one way valve (wel ek reken so want ek sien hom nie4t tussen daai t piece en die booster nie) maar ja daai wa se vacuum pyp na die brake booster to is maar redelik klein. As ek nou reg kon onthou was bulldog se pypie ook maar redelik dun gewees. Dit is dalk raadsaam om soos Naas die ding te skuif na 'n beter vacuum punt in die manifold self.

Maar onthou even met 'n resovoir gaan die ding nie reg werk sonder 'n decent one way valve wat nie vacuum lek nie. Ek sal sê voor jy sukkel om 'n reservoir in te sit moet jy eers 'n one way valve kry en dit probeer. As jou sisteem dan nie lek agter die valve nie sal die valve die locker gelock hou al skakel jy die kar af, met of sonder 'n resevoir. Al wat ek net wonder is hoe gaan die vacuum release kan daai solenoid vacuum release ook?

Onthou Victor het ons laas vertel dat hy op die einde sy hele plaat tog moes vervang het want sy diafram het gelek. Ek wonder Cassie het jy gekyk of dia diapram kan uitstrip? Dan kan mens dalk by 'n plek wat vacuum en druk pype en seels verkoop gaan soek vir iets wat pas as julle sin ook lek.

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Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:05 pm

Mmm nog iets. Wat van 'n conversion? 'n Lekker staal kabeltjie in die diff in wat daai arm kan trek en 'n solenoid om die kabel te trek. Dan het jy 'n elektriese locker :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

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Tue Mar 25, 2008 5:42 am

Bennie. Thanks vir daai input. Ek gaan vir Naas vra om vir my 'n foto te neem van waar hy sy vacuum pickup doen. Ek sal dan die non-return valve voor die solenoid switch sit want as die soleniod to maak dan release hy in elk geval die druk so dat die loc release.

Daai diaphram op my locker lyk nog in 'n baie goeie toestand te wees. Ek kan geen visible krake of lek plekke sien nie en het die vacuum getoets vir lekke deur die pypie by die solenoid los te maak en daaraan te suig en dan toe te knyp en kyk of die locker LED bly brand en dit het. So dit se vir my die diaphram lyk nog in 100% toestand te wees.

Mens kan baie maklik die daiphram uitstrip sonder enige hassles behalwe dat mens die hele diff se cover sal moet af haal om die bout aan die binnekant met 'n Allen-Key vas te hou terwyl jy die lock-nut aan die buite kant los draai.

Ek het nou net aan nog 'n idee gedink. Wat van as mens 'n elektromagneet in die hele storie inbou? So hoe dit dan sal werk is mens gooi die switch wat die magneet aand sit en die vacuum suig die diaphram tot in lock posisie en dan 'lock' die magneet die daiphram in die lock posisie.

Ek dink nie 'n kabeltjie gaan kan cope nie. Daai spring loaded lever het nogal redelik krag nodig om te beweeg. As mens die solenoid direk op die diff se cover plaat vas maak dat die kabel in 'n reguit lyn trek, sal dit dalk werk. Die probleem is net ek dink nie die solenoid gaan van al die vibrasie hou wat hy gaan kry as hy direk op die diff is nie. Anders sal mens een of ander lever aksie moet hê of iets in daai lyn.
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Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:56 am

Ek het ook nog gedink. Is daai vacuum switch nie ook in elk geval veronderstel om die vacuum te hou nie en dat dit dalk self foutief is en die oorsaak van die probleem is nie? :?

Met kabel het ek aan iets groters gedink (handbriek of clutch kabel sterrkte) om die solonoid so bietjie weg uit harms way te fit. Mens kan custom kabels laat maak by baie plekke.

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Tue Mar 25, 2008 8:02 am

Al wat ek net wonder is sal mens die tension stabiel kan hou as die solenoid iewers op die body gemount is en die as op en af beweeg? :?: :?:
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Tue Mar 25, 2008 8:23 am

Naas. Ek het nou net vir Volkspares gebel en hulle se hulle het nie vacuum reservoirs nie :(.
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Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:17 pm

Cassie ek het nou Golfwagen ook gebel, hulle se bel die VW Agente, ek gaan maar bel en hoor wat dit kos.
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Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:43 pm

Ek het intussesn uit gevind dat 'n oordentlikke gehalte check valve (non-return) gaan so R160 kos.
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waar presies kom die valve in en wat doen hy?
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Tue Mar 25, 2008 1:44 pm

Met my huidige setup verloor ek vacuum presure as my revs klim en ek dink as ek skielik briek trap. Die idee van die non-return valve is dat as die vacuum aan die locker kant geform het en die vacuum van die engin gaan skielik weg, die locker nie sy pressure sal verloor nie en so doende die locker in plek hou.
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Tue Mar 25, 2008 2:58 pm

Guys read the description of how the diff works in the attachment. According to the manual you need a non return valve but not an accumulator as the front hose acts as an accumulator. The electrical diagrams, fault diagnosis etc all in the attacment.

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Sorry, no luck attaching the attachment, I will ask Bennie to assist.

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Tue Mar 25, 2008 4:04 pm

Victor used a vacuum reservoir complete with non return valve he sourced from a newer shape Hilux (legend 35 shape). He paid R150 for the complete unit from Dion's Auto (a scrap yard) here in Pta.

Maybe its worth phoning one of the stealers to get a price?

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Tue Mar 25, 2008 4:10 pm

Thanks for the info Ewald
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Ek was bang dis van n scrapyard af, dan gaan ons weer sukkel.

Waarvoor word die reservoir gebruik op die Legend lat ons weet waarvoor om te vra, weet jy Ewald?

Het VW gebel maar hulle weet nie waarvan ek praat nie, gaan maar nog soek.
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Tue Mar 25, 2008 4:51 pm

Het nou n plek gebel, hulle het n vacuum reservoir wat gebruik word vir die cetral locking op n golf3, maar hy kos R650. Ek wil amper se dis te duur om n kans te vat, die R150 jobbie by scrapyard se prys klink beter, as mens een kan kry.

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Thanks Naas. Ek gaan die non-return valve ding probeer en kyk wat gebeur.

Hier is die manual wat Willem wou gepost het (Dankie Willem):
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Cassie hy wys net die eerste bladsy daar moet twaalf wees

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3RZ wrote:Cassie hy wys net die eerste bladsy daar moet twaalf wees
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3RZ wrote:Cassie hy wys net die eerste bladsy daar moet twaalf wees
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People from the East Rand cannot count more than 10, they run out of fingers... :twisted: :mrgreen:


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So maak mens :wink:
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wil jy nou vir my sê ek is deur al die drama om die file op te split om hom te kan upload en hier gaan stel jy die site limits en doen dit onetime :evil: :evil:
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BenHurBul wrote:So maak mens :wink:
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I'll have you know I can count to 20 if I'm wearing plakkies hey! :lol: :lol: :shock: :shock: And to twentyone of I just got out of the shower :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Cassie jy meen 20 en 'n half as jy uit die shower klim
Jy bdoel seker 'n voet en 'n half :)
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Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:21 am

Nee man ek meen mos daai klein toontjie van jou wat so baie klein is dat hy net vir 'n half tel

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Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:09 am

Cassie waar gaan jy daai valve koop? Ek soek ook een om te probeer. Ek sien daai diagram wys ook dat daar n non-return valve moet wees. Hopelik is dit ons probleem.
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Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:32 am

Ek bestel een by 'n plek in Boksburg. Hulle bring vir my een op van die Kaap af. Dit gaan my so R200 (high end non-return valve rated tot so -100KPa) kos. Laat ek dit toets en kyk of dit werk, dan kan ek dalk nog order vir jou en wie ook al nog soek.
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Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:40 am

Dit klink goed Cas, kom ons kyk, ek gaan solank kyk of ek so reservoir vir cheap kan kry, dan try ek dit.
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Ek dink as mens net 'n oordentlikke valve in het behoort die probleem klaar iets van die verlede te wees. Maar as mens dalk 'n reservoir ook nog op koppel.... man... dan hoef ek nooit weer aan 'n ARB te dink nie :)
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Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:15 pm

Man as julle vacuum eers ge-establish is en die locker ge-ingage is behoort daar geen verdere lugvloei in die sisteem te wees nie (tensy die diaphragm lek) so 'n reservoir sal oorbodig wees.

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Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:29 am

Miskien is ek dom... nee korreksie, ek is dom... wat wil jy in die reservoir stoor? 'n vacuum? 'n vacuum is niks, en mens kan nie niks stoor nie.. :twisted: :twisted:
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Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:37 am

Die probleem is die vacuum moet daar bly om hom gelock te hou, en as die vacuum net bietjie minder raak dan skuif daai diaphrame dalk net genoeg vir die locker om uit te spring, ons sal maar moet sien wat maak die valve en dan die reservoir.

Ek het die one way valve gekry van n Toyota af by n scrapyard, ek hoop hy kan ook werk. Ek kan n 2nd hand gearmax diff coverkry vir R450, maar het mos nou my les geleer met die 2nd hand goed, is bang ek koop weer n stukkende ding. Ek gaan try die valve mount tussen die engine en my solenoid, moet net pypies kry.
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Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:42 am

Kaspaas wrote:Miskien is ek dom... nee korreksie, ek is dom... wat wil jy in die reservoir stoor? 'n vacuum? 'n vacuum is niks, en mens kan nie niks stoor nie.. :twisted: :twisted:
Thys, Ek moet met jou verskil. Wat dink jy stoor ons Cheetah supporters tussen ons ore? :twisted: :twisted:

Naas, daai lyk soos die valve wat voor die brake booster kom. Laat my weet wat gebeur :)
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