Wind Deflactors - Cortina Flappies
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Wind Deflactors - Cortina Flappies
A while ago I asked Gysie from Gomad to bend 2mm alu sheet into the same shape as the corners of my aluminium canopy.
He attached them with 20mm spacers to the back end of the canopy to act as wind deflectors. These deflectors served the same purpose as those chrome flaps the old timers had on the back of their Cortina/Valiant station wagons. Hence we called them Cortina Flappies. Wind flows into the gap from the front as the vehicle moves forward, and then gets blown out the back across the back end of the canopy.
From the front:
And from the behind:
From a distance you can hardly notice them:
These things WORK! After driving 700km on very dusty roads the only dust on the back of the vehicle was a little bit that got stuck to the window rubber. The rear window, rear canopy door and even the tailgate was dust free. Okay not entirely, but almost..
If my logic is correct, the wind flow across the back of the vehicle also breaks the vacuum that gets created behind the vehicle, reducing the drag.. Where are the air-flow specialists? Could that be true?
I have a few more wind deflecting ideas up my sleeve. Let's see where this takes us.
PS They dont work so well with mud...
He attached them with 20mm spacers to the back end of the canopy to act as wind deflectors. These deflectors served the same purpose as those chrome flaps the old timers had on the back of their Cortina/Valiant station wagons. Hence we called them Cortina Flappies. Wind flows into the gap from the front as the vehicle moves forward, and then gets blown out the back across the back end of the canopy.
From the front:
And from the behind:
From a distance you can hardly notice them:
These things WORK! After driving 700km on very dusty roads the only dust on the back of the vehicle was a little bit that got stuck to the window rubber. The rear window, rear canopy door and even the tailgate was dust free. Okay not entirely, but almost..
If my logic is correct, the wind flow across the back of the vehicle also breaks the vacuum that gets created behind the vehicle, reducing the drag.. Where are the air-flow specialists? Could that be true?
I have a few more wind deflecting ideas up my sleeve. Let's see where this takes us.
PS They dont work so well with mud...
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Re: Wind Deflactors - Cortina Flappies
Die ou mense was die so dom nie
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En hulle het nie eers Google gehad nie!!Hoppy wrote:Die ou mense was die so dom nie
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Re: Wind Deflactors - Cortina Flappies
Daai is 'n absolute moet as jy passasiers ook agter in jou canopy het. Dit ding is die voetuig vorm 'n vortex agter hom want dan veroorsaak dat die stof soos 'n maal wind die heeltyd agter hom kolk. Hoekom ek se as jy passasiers agter in die canopy het, moet jy dieselfde doen is want net soos die stof, doen die uitlaatgasse presies dieselfde ding en daai gasse gaan in die canopy in. En so doende kan die mense agter in die canopy vergas (weet van ouerpaar wat hulle kinders so verloor het).
So... as jou voertuig se uitlaatpyp na agter uitkom en jy is van plan om mense in die canopy te vervoer... moet jy daai deflectors insit.
Maar dit alles gese... ek smaak daai idee kwaai Thys
So... as jou voertuig se uitlaatpyp na agter uitkom en jy is van plan om mense in die canopy te vervoer... moet jy daai deflectors insit.
Maar dit alles gese... ek smaak daai idee kwaai Thys
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Re: Wind Deflactors - Cortina Flappies
ja Cassie, that is true... My mother in law didnt complain one little bit about diesel fumes and dust after our trip...
I did have the front slider of the canopy open to pressurize the canopy and keep the dust out. That is an old trick I have been doing for many years.. We were caught out a bit though,on the Ceres/Calvinia road we kept the slider closed because of rain.. but the road was still dusty, and some dust got sucked in the back.. not much, but still enough to be annoying..
I did have the front slider of the canopy open to pressurize the canopy and keep the dust out. That is an old trick I have been doing for many years.. We were caught out a bit though,on the Ceres/Calvinia road we kept the slider closed because of rain.. but the road was still dusty, and some dust got sucked in the back.. not much, but still enough to be annoying..
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Re: Wind Deflactors - Cortina Flappies
I like,need to fit as well,had major dust problems this last weekend.The strange thing is had no problems with the old canopy.
Cas,not allowed to transport people in the back,no seatbelts
Cas,not allowed to transport people in the back,no seatbelts
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Re: Wind Deflactors - Cortina Flappies
Open the front slider window Neil... No more dust...
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Re: Wind Deflactors - Cortina Flappies
Thanks,while on canopies,my rear latch drivers side on back flap,keeps slipping open,ended up using a racket strap to keep it closed.Any ideas on how to solve the problemThysdJ wrote:Open the front slider window Neil... No more dust...
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What happened there Neil? Could you not get it closed? Does the catch keep opening by itself? Or did the catch not catch the frame any more?
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Slips off the frame,thinking of adding a plate with a lip towards the inside.ThysdJ wrote:What happened there Neil? Could you not get it closed? Does the catch keep opening by itself? Or did the catch not catch the frame any more?
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told you the capies were gepla with the wind
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Not true,just trying to get the IFS more aerodynamic to save fuelJEEPIE wrote:told you the capies were gepla with the wind
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Re: Wind Deflactors - Cortina Flappies
Mine did the same. It is the weight on top of the roof that does that. I told Gysie to add a piece of 50x6mm alu to the inside of the frame to brace it against the inside of the loadbin and problem was solved.Thunder02 wrote:Slips off the frame,thinking of adding a plate with a lip towards the inside.ThysdJ wrote:What happened there Neil? Could you not get it closed? Does the catch keep opening by itself? Or did the catch not catch the frame any more?
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Can you post a pic of whereThysdJ wrote:Mine did the same. It is the weight on top of the roof that does that. I told Gysie to add a piece of 50x6mm alu to the inside of the frame to brace it against the inside of the loadbin and problem was solved.Thunder02 wrote:Slips off the frame,thinking of adding a plate with a lip towards the inside.ThysdJ wrote:What happened there Neil? Could you not get it closed? Does the catch keep opening by itself? Or did the catch not catch the frame any more?
I moved tents to front roofrack and had still the same problem
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I will take pics and post them Neil..
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Re: Wind Deflactors - Cortina Flappies
The problem is that the load-box flexes to much, a quick-fix is to either add a lip to the frame, or weld a bigger washer onto the adjuster bolt
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ThankyouThysdJ wrote:I will take pics and post them Neil..
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Re: Wind Deflactors - Cortina Flappies
Die ou mense was die so dom nie
Hulle is ook nou, nog nie dom nie
Baie goeie idee Thys. Dink al lank, hoe om myne reg te maak. Ek het tafel langs die kant, met gas bottels, leer, hout/charcoal, Hi-Lift & spaarwiel agter om verby te kom. Daar is baie windweerstand, maar geen warrelweerstand nie.
Hulle is ook nou, nog nie dom nie
Baie goeie idee Thys. Dink al lank, hoe om myne reg te maak. Ek het tafel langs die kant, met gas bottels, leer, hout/charcoal, Hi-Lift & spaarwiel agter om verby te kom. Daar is baie windweerstand, maar geen warrelweerstand nie.
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Re: Wind Deflactors - Cortina Flappies
Ja, Thys, .... good idea to fit them for gravel / dust conditions .... doubt you will achieve any improved aerodynamics / fuel efficiency though. It's as Cassie said .... it goes a long way to neutralising the turbulence behind the squared off back end, which is responsible for the dust deposits on the back. Dust from the wheels coming through under the vehicle as well as along the sides is sucked into the 'vacuum' behind and is trapped in the turbulence for a short time up against the back. With the 'deflectors' (side scoops sounds more accurate), the turbulence is less and occurs a little further back .... less dust deposit.
Interesting to note is that VW Beatles and similar 'fast-back' shaped vehicles never had that problem.
Interesting to note is that VW Beatles and similar 'fast-back' shaped vehicles never had that problem.
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My vrou se i10 is selfs op die teerpad altyd vol stof agter. Wonder hoe sal hy lyk met 'n paar varkore
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EK kou ook al 'n hele ruk aan so idee.
Maak 'n mould van my canopy se boonste hoek en maak dan 'n netjiese hoek wat ek net so 10mm bo die canopy vasmaak!
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If you look at the Executop canopy, they also had a similar idea.
It has scoops on the front where the wind is directed down over the rear window of the canopy.To God be the glory
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I thought that was just a Benoni thing to have a scoop on your vehicleCasKru wrote:If you look at the Executop canopy, they also had a similar idea.It has scoops on the front where the wind is directed down over the rear window of the canopy.
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Must be a Klerksdorp thing too... ;)
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Re: Wind Deflactors - Cortina Flappies
Neil
Here are the pics of the little alu restraint that we attached to the canopy frame. They worked on this Mabua trip and we were loaded even heavier than before..
Hope this helps.
Here are the pics of the little alu restraint that we attached to the canopy frame. They worked on this Mabua trip and we were loaded even heavier than before..
Hope this helps.
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Re: Wind Deflactors - Cortina Flappies
Thanks Thys,i will do so
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Re: Wind Deflactors - Cortina Flappies
And Neil, replace that crappy foam-rubber seal at the bottom of the canopy with proper d-rubber. The foam compresses as soon as you start loading stuff on the top. Once the foam gets compressed the bolts holding the canopy is loose. Recipe for disaster..
D-Rubber does not compress. You'll see the rubber in that last 2 pics I posted..
D-Rubber does not compress. You'll see the rubber in that last 2 pics I posted..
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Re: Wind Deflactors - Cortina Flappies
Gomad were kind enough to put rubber under,not foam.Thanks for the advice.
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Re: Wind Deflactors - Cortina Flappies
See Thys we have learned from our mistakes in the past and are always upgrading !
Neil - please let me know if your rear door keeps on opening?
Neil - please let me know if your rear door keeps on opening?
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Re: Wind Deflactors - Cortina Flappies
Hi,i have now tested the canopy with no load,even on tar she keeps opening.It seem as if the area that she locks onto is at an angle.I've also adjusted the bolt to a stronger clamp and also looser,problem still there.Gysie wrote:See Thys we have learned from our mistakes in the past and are always upgrading !
Neil - please let me know if your rear door keeps on opening?
I'm going to fit two alli plates with a lip on to prevent this from happening.Can i remove the two back boxes,are they sealed and therefore need to be resealed ?
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Re: Wind Deflactors - Cortina Flappies
Why don't you change your back locks to the new larger ones?
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Re: Wind Deflactors - Cortina Flappies
So what you are saying is you like D-Rubber but not D-Foam...ThysdJ wrote:And Neil, replace that crappy foam-rubber seal at the bottom of the canopy with proper d-rubber. The foam compresses as soon as you start loading stuff on the top. Once the foam gets compressed the bolts holding the canopy is loose. Recipe for disaster..
D-Rubber does not compress. You'll see the rubber in that last 2 pics I posted..
what did you use to fix D-Rubber to D-Canopy.. ( sorry could not resist).Might also want to go that route..also anyone know where I can get D-Rubber in Pta?
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Re: Wind Deflactors - Cortina Flappies
From 4x4 Direct I'm guessing,then i have key issues againHoppy wrote:Why don't you change your back locks to the new larger ones?
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