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The Importance of having an operational Engine Thermostat

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:17 pm
by Dadz Toy BFI
When we opened up my old 4Y's water pump outlet this is what we found :shock: :o: :o :?

(see photo)

Just the upper part of the thermostat remained to effect the O-ring seal :o:

(the body of the thermostat was totally absent - hence the motor had no functioning thermostat) :?

Which got me thinking:

what really is the function of an engine thermostat in a temperate climate like ours :?: :roll: :Geek:

Your feedback would be really appreciated guys :wink:

(this is a "thought provoking" any comment - "rather than give only the correct answer" welcome thread nê)

Rich

Re: What is the role of an engine Thermostat in our Climate

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:27 am
by CasKru
My guess would be that the engine gets to operating temperature quicker and if it's not installed you're engine will actually run cooler than supposed to...

Re: What is the role of an engine Thermostat in our Climate

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:52 am
by Riceburner
Engine gets to operating temp quicker if its installed. Thermostats keep your engines temp stable. If it runs too cold it will wear prematurely. It also gives the water time to cool down in the radiator. Thermostat is very important in hot and cold climates.

Re: Do we need an Engine Thermostat in a Temperate Climate?

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:48 am
by Spook
As jy my raad vat, vervang daai termostaat met 'n nuwe Toyota genuine een want die termostaat in die 4Y is een wat baie styf is wat veroorsaak dat die enjin baie vinnig op werkstemperatuur kom vroeg in die oggend in die veld. Verder, waarom dink jy het hulle die kar ontwerp met 'n termostaat? 'n Te koue enjin slyt vinnger as een wat op die regte temperatuur hardloop. As jou kar warm word met 'n termostaat, soek die rede daarvoor by die regte plek en maak dit reg.

Re: Do we need an Engine Thermostat in a Temperate Climate?

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:18 am
by Dadz Toy BFI
Spook wrote:As jy my raad vat, vervang daai termostaat met 'n nuwe Toyota genuine een want die termostaat in die 4Y is een wat baie styf is wat veroorsaak dat die enjin baie vinnig op werkstemperatuur kom vroeg in die oggend in die veld. Verder, waarom dink jy het hulle die kar ontwerp met 'n termostaat? 'n Te koue enjin slyt vinnger as een wat op die regte temperatuur hardloop. As jou kar warm word met 'n termostaat, soek die rede daarvoor by die regte plek en maak dit reg.
die translasie software can't help :oops: - can a human please help me verstaan (Ingels) :roll:

Dankie mense :wink:

Re: Do we need an Engine Thermostat in a Temperate Climate?

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:26 am
by CasKru
Dadz Toy BFI wrote:
Spook wrote:As jy my raad vat, vervang daai termostaat met 'n nuwe Toyota genuine een want die termostaat in die 4Y is een wat baie styf is wat veroorsaak dat die enjin baie vinnig op werkstemperatuur kom vroeg in die oggend in die veld. Verder, waarom dink jy het hulle die kar ontwerp met 'n termostaat? 'n Te koue enjin slyt vinnger as een wat op die regte temperatuur hardloop. As jou kar warm word met 'n termostaat, soek die rede daarvoor by die regte plek en maak dit reg.
die translasie software can't help :oops: - can a human please help me verstaan (Ingels) :roll:

Dankie mense :wink:
I you take my advise... replace your thermostat with a new genuine Toyota one because the thermostat in the 4Y is very stiff which causes the engine to reach operating temperature very quickly early morning in the field. Further, why do you think cars were designed with a thermostat? A to cold engine wears quicker than one runnign at the correct temperature. I your car runs hot with a thermostat, find the reason in the right place and fix it.

Re: Do we need an Engine Thermostat in a Temperate Climate?

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:35 am
by Dadz Toy BFI
Thanks Casie

Think he was misunderstanding my predicament nê :?

I should have added that I bought a New Genuine Toyota Thermostat for the replacement Korean, I wasn't gonna risk that, no, no, no...:wink:

Thanks v.much vir die translasie mos :wink:

Re: Y Do we need an Engine Thermostat in a Temperate Climate?

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:49 am
by CasKru
Pleasure Rich... I'm also like that... when it comes to spares for my bakkies engine... only genuine Toyota parts will do :)

Re: Y Do we need an Engine Thermostat in a Temperate Climate?

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:51 pm
by BenHur
Ha rich glad you remembered and followed my advice.

What Darryl said is very imported let me elaborate: Apart from regulating the temp so the engine does not run too cold in cool conditions, it restricts the flow of water. Without a thermostat the speed of the water increases with the speed of the engine because the pump runs faster. Then you get to a situation where the water gets pumped through the radiator so fast that their is no time for heat exchange so the water leaves the radiator at the same temperature in arrived at the radiator and no cooling takes place.

Re: Y Do we need an Engine Thermostat in a Temperate Climate?

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:58 pm
by Dadz Toy BFI
Aaaahaaaarr :P

Sommer nou makes a lot of sense mos :D:

Qu:

So do you think the absence of thermoset in my old motor contributed* to its demise :?:


(*In detail, 2000 words maximim, 50 Marks) :wink:

Rich

Re: Y Do we need an Engine Thermostat in a Temperate Climate?

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 1:58 pm
by CasKru
Dadz Toy BFI wrote:Aaaahaaaarr :P

Sommer nou makes a lot of sense mos :D:

Qu:

So do you think the absence of thermoset in my old motor contributed* to its demise :?:


(*In detail, 2000 words maximim, 50 Marks) :wink:

Rich
Only one word needed..... yes! :evil:

Re: Y Do we need an Engine Thermostat in a Temperate Climate?

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 4:23 pm
by BenHur
Dadz Toy BFI wrote:Aaaahaaaarr :P

Sommer nou makes a lot of sense mos :D:

Qu:

So do you think the absence of thermoset in my old motor contributed* to its demise :?:


(*In detail, 2000 words maximim, 50 Marks) :wink:

Rich
OK here goes
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If you now count the words you will realise it is two thousand words exactly.

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Try reading that aloud in one breath :twisted: :twisted:

Re: The Importance of having an operational Engine Thermostat

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 4:44 pm
by ThysdJ
Jy het hopeloos te veel tyd om *a* uit te dink my bra!!
You have hopelessly too much time to think out *hi*, my braziere!!
:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

Re: The Importance of having an operational Engine Thermostat

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 4:47 pm
by Scorpion
You have way too much time on your hands, Bennie! Rather go spend it on your red lorrie... :twisted:

Re: The Importance of having an operational Engine Thermostat

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 5:20 pm
by Dadz Toy BFI
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Full Marks Scholar Bennie :P

You are nou a Fully Fledged Mighty Blou Bull Bloke :D:

Rich :wink:

Re: The Importance of having an operational Engine Thermostat

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 5:56 pm
by Family_Dog
It's not two thousand words. :o:
1999 Words.jpg

-F_D

Re: The Importance of having an operational Engine Thermostat

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:53 pm
by Dadz Toy BFI
Family_BullDog wrote:It's not two thousand words. :o:
1999 Words.jpg

-F_D
Busted

SEE ME! Master Hurter

Re: The Importance of having an operational Engine Thermostat

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:29 pm
by Scorpion
Dadz Toy BFI wrote:
Family_BullDog wrote:It's not two thousand words. :o:

-F_D
Busted
Standard Blue Bull Practise... :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Re: The Importance of having an operational Engine Thermostat

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:30 pm
by BenHur
Nope Eric you must have miscopied a word somewhere when you transfered it to MSword as I also counted it the same way you did and mine said 2000 words. Test it again. Soos ek jou gesê het age vang op met jou :shock: :shock: :shock:

Re: The Importance of having an operational Engine Thermostat

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:33 pm
by BenHur
Scorpion wrote:You have way too much time on your hands, Bennie! Rather go spend it on your red lorrie... :twisted:
Kaspaas wrote:Jy het hopeloos te veel tyd om *a* uit te dink my bra!!
You have hopelessly too much time to think out *hi*, my braziere!!
:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

The Internet is your friend :wink:

Re: The Importance of having an operational Engine Thermostat

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 11:31 am
by Family_Dog
BenHur wrote:Nope Eric you must have miscopied a word somewhere when you transfered it to MSword as I also counted it the same way you did and mine said 2000 words. Test it again. Soos ek jou gesê het age vang op met jou :shock: :shock: :shock:
Sneaking an extra word in now after I did the count is not very PC.... :mrgreen:


-F_D

Re: The Importance of having an operational Engine Thermostat

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 11:40 am
by Dadz Toy BFI
I'm gonna jump up and give him a Fatklap across his knee caps when I see him next Eric :P

Re: The Importance of having an operational Engine Thermostat

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 11:40 am
by CasKru
Family_BullDog wrote:
BenHur wrote:Nope Eric you must have miscopied a word somewhere when you transfered it to MSword as I also counted it the same way you did and mine said 2000 words. Test it again. Soos ek jou gesê het age vang op met jou :shock: :shock: :shock:
Sneaking an extra word in now after I did the count is not very PC.... :mrgreen:
-F_D
Typical blue bull tactic Eric....

That is a yellow card for mr Hurter

Re: The Importance of having an operational Engine Thermostat

Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 11:54 pm
by BenHur
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