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Tue May 04, 2010 9:23 pm

Hi Guys

Maybe this is a dumb question but what shovel do you guys use for recovery Ive got a square one but read today the say the round type is beter but didnt gave any reasons?

What would you say :problem:

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Tue May 04, 2010 9:36 pm

AJ, I have both, but imo the round large one is better.

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zepplin wrote:a frying pan will be best
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Clever one Zepplin :clap: :clap:

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Tue May 04, 2010 9:50 pm

I use the rounded "skopgraaf" shape, because the deeper shovel and angle of the handle makes it much easier to move volumes of sand from under the vehicle without bending over as much.
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Tue May 04, 2010 9:51 pm

Well let's look at it this way .... you're most unlikely to ever gonna be shovelling mud, less likely stones or rocks. The only time I've ever used one was in sandy conditions, so the way I see it is that there is no need for a pointed shovel to break ground. A flat ended builder's spade moves sand quickly and with ease, also it can double as a skillet if you left your braai grid behind somewhere (obviously one would wash and burn it clean first). I bought a fold-up patrol spade some years ago ... never used it and don't even know where it is any more ... probably packed underneath some other stuff that never gets used, in some corner of the garage or workshop.

To answer your question then, I reckon it's a matter of personal choice ... for me, a builder's spade will do just fine, thanks. :wink:
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Tue May 04, 2010 10:07 pm

Hehe....I got my little fold up shovel as a gift about 3 years ago. It's been taking up space in one of my camping boxes, but has never been used.
I'm sure there are hundreds of these un-used little shovels traveling all over Africa every year.
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Wed May 05, 2010 7:24 am

The square spade is good for digging toilet holes, gives them nice and square sides. :twisted: :twisted: They also good for chroming and hanging in the foyer of some gov't building. :twisted: :twisted:

For recoveries use the rounded shovel. It removes more dirt at a time than a square one. :thumbup: :thumbup:

But then again, in case of emergency, any old digging tool will do... even the cubby-hole lid of some Land Rover.. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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Wed May 05, 2010 8:55 am

Sure the 'bull-nose' shovel or 'scoop' as it's sometimes nick-named moves more dirt, but there's another so-far unmentioned advantage that the square nose builder's spade has over it ..... it lies a lot flatter and is therefore easier to pack with less wasted space. :wink:

Oh, and that bull-nose shovel can get quite heavy to swing continuously, and tiring for some of us light-weights! :D:
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I dont know why we even discussing this... Hilux's dont get stuck, and the oke with the Landy can dig out his own truck.. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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ThysdJ wrote:I dont know why we even discussing this... Hilux's dont get stuck, and the oke with the Landy can dig out his own truck.. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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True .... it's like I said, I've only once ever needed a spade in soft beach sand. :wink:
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Thys... it's always polite to carry a few Land Rover recovery items... just in case!

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Wed May 05, 2010 9:43 am

Hi wel, i dont know what shovel is the best for recovery because i drive a HILUX we dont get stuck (much) but if we do there's alwayse another HILUX to help with a tug, That said, I dont like these small "camping shovels" i use a normal "wood handle" square shovel u can buy at any hardware store, i sharpend the 1 edge so it can dubble as a bushwacker when the need arises, it does every job with ease, poopscoop (at home for my dogs) ,coalscoop, digging the odd hole, clearing small bushes and branches ex ex ex,
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Wed May 05, 2010 9:44 am

Mud Dog wrote:
ThysdJ wrote:I dont know why we even discussing this... Hilux's dont get stuck, and the oke with the Landy can dig out his own truck.. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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True .... it's like I said, I've only once ever needed a spade in soft beach sand. :wink:
How deep did you dig that makeshift lavatory? :twisted: :twisted:
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:lol: :lol: :lol:
I actually should have dug a shjit-pit Cassie, because I could have kukked myself right there ..... and kicked myself for making a stupid error that even a novice would make, but that's what comes from being too confident and making poor judgements (overestimating yourself). :wink:
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Wed May 05, 2010 10:41 am

Before my trip to Bots last year I bought a medium sized square shovel. I must admit I didn't give the metter much thought, just walked into Midas and picked out.

Anywho at one point, you can't believe, I got stuck in a river/wetland crossing. Both diffs sitting solidly on the mud. After much swearing and just about drowning trying to get under the car to dig out the mud we decided it would be better to jack the car up and pack logs into the holes the wheels had sunk into. Of course when we tried to use the hilift jack the base of the jack disappeared into the mud... Admittedly I've never gotten around to buying/making a base plate for the jack, but (and the point of the story) it turns out that a medium square shovel turned upside-down makes an excellent base plate!

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Thanks for all the advice on something I thought was a dumb question you okes are the best :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Die Britse weermag se bull shovel ontwerp is onverander vanaf 1911 tot vandag. Rede, dit werk (of hulle het te veel gekoop in 1910).
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I carry the standard builders square spade on my roofrack. I have only ever used it for camping and clearing the campsite.
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Thu May 06, 2010 7:52 am

Don't buy the fold up one. it breaks your back and is to short to scrape out the coles from the fire. Square one is very versatile.

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I got 10 folding shovels from a shop that is closing. 5 small ones and 5 large ones.
I added it to the shop at
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This is a once off, i wont get more stock once these are finished
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R60 - R65 dis 'n winskoop :thumbup:

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OOOOMS wrote:R60 - R65 dis 'n winskoop :thumbup:
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Ja, ek maak nie eintlik iets op dit nie, help net om van die stock ontslae te raak
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Jitte Piet,

wil jy he die ouens moet 'Brokeback Shovelling' doen?

Nee wat, ek ry sommer een werksgraaf saam - gewone lang steel, goed gebruikte vierkant kop en mooi helder pienk geverf, om dit beter te kan sien my kind!
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Ek gooi die een sommer agter die sitplek in vir daai dag wat iemand die groot graaf van die bakkie afgehaal het, die opvou een werk beter as die kaal hand, net so vir ingeval :cool:
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I also prefer the square one.Much stronger and dont need a strongman to opperate.
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Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:09 am

eish ek moet ook nou 'n graaf koop maar kan nie besluit of ek die ronde kop op platkop moet kry nie..............

miskien moet ek maar net 'n coin flip??? :)

kan julle my asb. advies gee vir 'n byl ook? soek 'n ou 'n lang handvatsel of kort handvatsel as jy in die bundu is?

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Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:19 am

Anthony, jy kry ook 'n medium byl so tussen die twee, maar as ek so kies tussen die klein een en die groot een sou ek gaan vir die kleiner een!

But then again, bigger is better :thumbup:

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Hier is 'n link waar ons byle bespreek het, mag dalk help?

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dankie oooms, ek neig sterk na die medium size byl, was net bang ek kom daar aan met my klein byl dan lag die ouens vir my hehehe

weet julle of 'n ou erens nog daai 1950 jeep GRAWE kan kry? daai nices wat jy kan omdraai met die pik steel aan die een kant?

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As jy nie bome gaan afkap nie vat 'n ordentlike klein byl. Ek kap baie hout vir vuurmaak en glo my jy kap nie lekker hout met 'n groot byl nie. 'n Klein byl gaan jou ook tot 'n mate help as jy moet pad bou. Het 'n groot byl al 6 jaar lank en nog net 1 keer gebruik, het twee klein byltjies en gebruik ten minste een van hulle amper elke naweek.
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Yes, ek het ook net so 'n klein geel byltjie wat ek gebruik. 'n Grote is overkill, en vat net baie spasie op. :twisted: :twisted:
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pietpetoors wrote:As jy nie bome gaan afkap nie vat 'n ordentlike klein byl. Ek kap baie hout vir vuurmaak en glo my jy kap nie lekker hout met 'n groot byl nie. 'n Klein byl gaan jou ook tot 'n mate help as jy moet pad bou. Het 'n groot byl al 6 jaar lank en nog net 1 keer gebruik, het twee klein byltjies en gebruik ten minste een van hulle amper elke naweek.
baie dankie dit maak baie sin, ek gaan maar 'n gemaklike klein byl kry, nog a vragie, gee parkeraad julle nie moeilikheid as hulle jou byl op jou roof rack sien nie? mens mag mos nie hout kap by baie plekke nie, ek wonder of ek my byl moet roof mount of agter erens wegsteek.........

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Ander opsie as 'n byl is 'n lekker machete.
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Groot byl :thumbdown: wat te veel spasie, niks fout met n klein byl :thumbup: nie, jy kan hom beter hanteer.

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pietpetoors wrote:As jy nie bome gaan afkap nie vat 'n ordentlike klein byl. Ek kap baie hout vir vuurmaak en glo my jy kap nie lekker hout met 'n groot byl nie. 'n Klein byl gaan jou ook tot 'n mate help as jy moet pad bou. Het 'n groot byl al 6 jaar lank en nog net 1 keer gebruik, het twee klein byltjies en gebruik ten minste een van hulle amper elke naweek.
baie dankie dit maak baie sin, ek gaan maar 'n gemaklike klein byl kry, nog a vragie, gee parkeraad julle nie moeilikheid as hulle jou byl op jou roof rack sien nie? mens mag mos nie hout kap by baie plekke nie, ek wonder of ek my byl moet roof mount of agter erens wegsteek.........
Anthony, My byl is 'n handbyl en hy pas mooi onder die bestuurder se sitplek so dis waar ek myne ry. Dan is hy altyd naby as ek moet pad maak of hout kap vir vuur!! :thumbup: :thumbup:
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Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:47 am

Bere sommer die klein byl onder sie sitplek.....lyk nie goed oppi dak nie... :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Real Name: Anthony

Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:55 am

kwaai ek het nou net die shop se opvou byl gekoop vir "backup" :)

http://www.hilux4x4.co.za/theshop/index ... ucts_id=48" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

voeter nou is ek reg vir die bundus! hehe

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ChrisF
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Joined: Thu Sep 17, 2009 2:56 pm
Town: Bellville
Vehicle: Langpad (RAV4)
Real Name: Chris

Tue Nov 30, 2010 12:46 pm

Ek het n klein byl in die ammo box.

Het Saterdag n "ronde" graaf gekoop, sal dit binnekort monteer.

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Town: Centurion
Vehicle: Fortuner 4x4
Real Name: Frank

Wed Dec 01, 2010 12:38 am

Kyk bietjie na die graaf. http://www.doubleshovel.co.za/index_files/Page496.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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