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RECOVERY POINTS

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:18 pm
by mytruck
Hi all
Being new to the 4x4 game this site has given me so much info/tips and reading pleasure and would like to say thanks to all who respond so efficiently. Need some help on this one. I have a 2009 Hilux 4x4 Raider. I have read that when towing or trying to recover a vehicle with a rope/strap or winch that there are strategic "Recovery" points that one should use. Great but am not sure where they are. Checked the manual and am sure that the ones on the front are the ones to use, but what about on the rear of the vehicle. Forum has advised using the towbar is a big no no, which I can understand. So do I have have these fitted as an aftermarket thing or am I just blind - :shock:

Re: RECOVERY POINTS

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:24 pm
by CasKru
Ideally recovery points must be directly on the chassis and in line with the chassis.

Re: RECOVERY POINTS

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:28 pm
by Mud Dog
Usually fitted after market direct to chassis or to a sturdy bracket which is fitted to the chassis. Most integrated bumpers / bullbars / towbars will have recovery points built in. :wink:

Re: RECOVERY POINTS

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:48 pm
by Stef
Just wondering...if I were to fit recovery hooks to the chassis in the rear, can I slip the bridal strap between the valence & towbar seeing that the chassis is higher than the towbar?

Re: RECOVERY POINTS

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 2:13 pm
by ThysdJ
You could do that Stefan, but make sure that when the bridle pulls tight, it wont damage the valance. You must also make sure there are no "sharp" edges that could damage the bridle strap. :thumbup:

Re: RECOVERY POINTS

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 2:23 pm
by pietpetoors
Somewhere on the forum are pics where I show how I drilled big holes in the tow bar brackets, if you cant find it I will post new pics

Re: RECOVERY POINTS

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 2:29 pm
by GeorgeJvR
Contemplating having some of these made
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Re: RECOVERY POINTS

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 2:37 pm
by george
GeorgeJvR wrote:Contemplating having some of these made
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Vry nice.i like that

Re: RECOVERY POINTS

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 2:42 pm
by pietpetoors
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Re: RECOVERY POINTS

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:16 pm
by Stef
pietpetoors wrote:viewtopic.php?p=8480#p8480
Saw that one yes, any issues with bending upwards? Will it be legal for the AAWDC fun day?
GeorgeJvR wrote:Contemplating having some of these made
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More like what I want, trick is to mount them to the SFA's rear :problem:
ThysdJ wrote:You could do that Stefan, but make sure that when the bridle pulls tight, it wont damage the valance. You must also make sure there are no "sharp" edges that could damage the bridle strap. :thumbup:
Thought of that, but I guees one could damage the valence with the strap under the towbar as well, although there is that gap between the two that gives one some leeway.

Re: RECOVERY POINTS

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:57 pm
by pietpetoors
Stef:
Saw that one yes, any issues with bending upwards? Will it be legal for the AAWDC fun day?
I welded a piece if flat bar on the two bar bracket, underneath the chassis. This prevent the tow bar from moving upwards when you use it

Image

Re: RECOVERY POINTS

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 7:54 am
by Black Sam
pietpetoors wrote:viewtopic.php?p=8480#p8480
Jy het nie dalk daardie tipe recovery hake beskikbaar nie?

Re: RECOVERY POINTS

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 8:14 am
by Stef
pietpetoors wrote:Stef:
Saw that one yes, any issues with bending upwards? Will it be legal for the AAWDC fun day?
I welded a piece if flat bar on the two bar bracket, underneath the chassis. This prevent the tow bar from moving upwards when you use it

Image

Cool tx :thumbup: Will definitely be some added protection for the bolts...

Re: RECOVERY POINTS

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 8:18 am
by Royco
I like these :
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Then you never have to worry about shackles (or shackle missiles!!) :thumbup:

Re: RECOVERY POINTS

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:12 am
by Stef
Het gisteraand gou die towbar afgehaal en die loods gate geboor...
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Dis omtrent waar die shackle gaan hang
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Re: RECOVERY POINTS

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:29 am
by pietpetoors
Sal later 'n kiekie gaan vat, maar ek het toe in episode 2 van die recovery points twee washers/bushes ook bygesweis om die plaat dikker te maak, bloot net om die shackle meer stabiel te hou sodat hy nie heeltyd so heen en weer wieg nie. Die bushes se ID is dieselle as die gat wat ek geboor het, sy wand so 6mm dik en die ding is ook so 10mm dik. Dit gee net 'n breer skouer.

So as jy dalk iemand ken wat daagliks by 'n draaibank verbyloop kan jy sommer dit ook bysit.

Re: RECOVERY POINTS

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 2:25 pm
by Stef
pietpetoors wrote:Sal later 'n kiekie gaan vat, maar ek het toe in episode 2 van die recovery points twee washers/bushes ook bygesweis om die plaat dikker te maak, bloot net om die shackle meer stabiel te hou sodat hy nie heeltyd so heen en weer wieg nie. Die bushes se ID is dieselle as die gat wat ek geboor het, sy wand so 6mm dik en die ding is ook so 10mm dik. Dit gee net 'n breer skouer.

So as jy dalk iemand ken wat daagliks by 'n draaibank verbyloop kan jy sommer dit ook bysit.
Ek het daai update gesien, dink dis waar jy die t/bar brackets korter gemaak het...anyway..dis die plan, maar ek is lus om 2 bushes te maak elk 25mm lank, dan boor ek 'n gat die OD van die bush in die bracket, druk deur en weld altwee kante.
Wil sommer dieselfde trick trek op die bullbar se OEM gate :thumbup:

Re: RECOVERY POINTS

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 2:34 pm
by GeorgeJvR
Stef ek het die selfde plan maar wil 'n 5mm brace teen die bracket vas sit (weld / bout) met 'n punt wat op die chassis ook vas bout,
dan 'n pyp vat en tussen die twee brackets sit "horisontaal" net vir support as ek dalk 'n LR teen 'n angle moet recover in plaas van loodreg.

Re: RECOVERY POINTS

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 3:01 pm
by Stef
Die LTD towbar het klaar 'n lekker brace in...kyk die eerste foto, en jy't klaar 2 pype tussen in. As jy so ver wil gaan sou ek sĂȘ jy moet braces oorkruis insit maw van chassis links na t/bar regs :think:

Re: RECOVERY POINTS

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 3:26 pm
by GeorgeJvR
:think: Klink my ek dink net vir my self werk uit :think:

Re: RECOVERY POINTS

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 3:41 pm
by Stef
GeorgeJvR wrote::think: Klink my ek dink net vir my self werk uit :think:
:acute: :mrgreen:

Re: RECOVERY POINTS - CO2 welder needed

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:46 am
by Stef
Manne, bietjie hulp asb. Het bushes laat draai teen R220 vir 4 ; nou wil die karakter my nog R300 vra om die goed vas te weld... en ek wil dit nie eintlik met die inverter weld nie, of dink julle dit sal OK wees? Is daar iemand hier in Pta met 'n CO2 welder wat my kan help voor Vrydag vir 6 koues of so? :beg: Gaan intussen maar die Supa Quick ook vra.

Bestaande gate voor:
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met die bush in:
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Re: RECOVERY POINTS

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 2:47 pm
by Stef
Gate geboor in towbar; bushes ge- 'tag'. Gaan vanmiddag by die exhaust plek draai.
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Re: RECOVERY POINTS

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 2:49 pm
by george
Lyk lekker sterk.Launch jy 'n Ski-boot met daai tow ball?

Re: RECOVERY POINTS

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 2:54 pm
by Stef
george wrote:Lyk lekker sterk.Launch jy 'n Ski-boot met daai tow ball?

Ek wens! Sukkel nog om die bakkie te betaal :blushing:

Re: RECOVERY POINTS

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:01 pm
by GeorgeJvR
:thumbup: Ek sal maar steel met die oog :thumbup:

Re: RECOVERY POINTS

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:53 am
by Stef
GeorgeJvR wrote::thumbup: Ek sal maar steel met die oog :thumbup:
aag ek vertel jou sommer, daai voorste gate in die LTD bullbar is 40mm ;-)
Het 35mm gate in towbar geboor; bushes almal 25mm dia binne

Re: RECOVERY POINTS

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:02 am
by GeorgeJvR
:thumbup: :wave:

Re: RECOVERY POINTS

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:09 am
by Stef
O ja, kry iemand wat kan CO2 weld, nie jou local exhaust plek nie....daar is 'n rede hoekom hulle net exhausts weld :twisted:

Die punte is darem "of the better ones I've seen" volgens ORRU scrutineers :angel: :mrgreen: