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Tue Jan 19, 2016 9:58 pm

In December I did a trip from Mabuasehube to Nossob, via Matopi, and came across a burnt out new shape Prado..
Does anyone know what misfortune befell the driver of this vehicle?
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Wed Jan 20, 2016 6:15 am

A general problem is that people don't realize how hot the catalytic convert get while driving. They then park in some long dry grass which then ignite after a little while.
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Wed Jan 20, 2016 6:36 am

CasKru wrote:A general problem is that people don't realize how hot the catalytic convert get while driving. They then park in some long dry grass which then ignite after a little while.
and this IS clearly dealt with in the owners manual ... which hardly ever gets read .....


also dont forget, you dont have to park in the long grass. extended driving over long grass and bits of the grass gets lodged under the vehicle. Andrew st Pierre White actually dealt with this in one of his first videos, where he advised travels to clean the underside of the vehicle of grass after a long drive.


that said - I DO feel sorry for the owner !!

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Wed Jan 20, 2016 7:35 am

ChrisF wrote: that said - I DO feel sorry for the owner !!
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Wed Jan 20, 2016 9:34 am

In that area and on that road there is no long grass however I don't know where he had driven beforehand.
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Wed Jan 20, 2016 9:40 am

As Chris stated when driving through the veld pieces of grass and twigs collect in all crevasses underneath the car. This includes the space around the exhaust. So you often have to stop and clear these out especially the ones around the exhaust.

The stuff that accumulates makes for awesome kindling when you want to make a fire
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Wed Jan 20, 2016 10:23 am

Just the other day I spoke to guy that lost his Pajero due to his dual battery system. The fuse in front was something like 100amp and his fridge's cable started shaving through. The wires made a short but did not pop a fuse and a fire started. A while back it happened to a mechanic and he almost lost his Colt. So be careful of all the electrickety
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Wed Jan 20, 2016 11:01 am

george wrote:Just the other day I spoke to guy that lost his Pajero due to his dual battery system. The fuse in front was something like 100amp and his fridge's cable started shaving through. The wires made a short but did not pop a fuse and a fire started. A while back it happened to a mechanic and he almost lost his Colt. So be careful of all the electrickety
similar story last year on the other forum where a guy lost his bakkie due to an electrical fire - wire to the fridge got damages in the sliding mechanism ... fuse did not pop and the vehicle burnt out.

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Wed Jan 20, 2016 2:49 pm

I use the 30A NL fuses; smallest I could get, but I do not foresee ever getting close to that...

Anyone seen smaller values somewhere? I'd like to get 20A to match the D250S's limit.

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Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:16 pm

4x4Direct has down to 10A.

Midas has 5A

not sure if you get smaller, or where to get it ....

EDIT - here is the range of possible fuses:
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would have to check, but I believe the NL fridge actually has a 15A fuse, thus that would then be the smallest fuse you could use for the wires to the fridge .... guess you could try a 10A .... :surrender:

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Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:39 pm

The table is for the blade fuses I think.

The smallest cable I have is 10mm that should handle well over 30 A; trailer has circuit breakers etc. My concern was more for the setup around the D250S, from the vehicle to the Ctek & from Ctek to batt. 5A will do for the Solar panel input

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Wed Jan 20, 2016 4:32 pm

This one?
Also wondered what happened.
Was the melted aluminium still on the ground?
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Wed Jan 20, 2016 5:39 pm

I would say go with proper brand fuses. If not for quick thinking from my side I also would have had a burnt out vehicle due to a 10A fuse that did not pop but rather roasted a 6mm wire.

I'm referring to blade fuses. Bought mine from a car shop in a small "fishing tackle" box with the small compartments with all the different rating fuses. After the above almost disaster I tested a few of them and at least 30% of them did not pop.... into the bin and went and bought Wurth fuses and replaced all mine.
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Wed Jan 20, 2016 6:35 pm

Grass gather over time round the exhaust and/or CATs.

That's the first mod that I will do on a V6 cruiser, get rid of those CATs, other wise clean out he grass twice a day when driving off road.
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Wed Jan 20, 2016 6:45 pm

Stef wrote:I use the 30A NL fuses; smallest I could get, but I do not foresee ever getting close to that...

Anyone seen smaller values somewhere? I'd like to get 20A to match the D250S's limit.
Stef 20A is the lowest you get.

It start at 20A Orange 50A Red 100A Blue and 125A Pink
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Wed Jan 20, 2016 7:54 pm

Johan Kriel wrote:Grass gather over time round the exhaust and/or CATs.

That's the first mod that I will do on a V6 cruiser, get rid of those CATs, other wise clean out he grass twice a day when driving off road.
Sover ek weet kan jy nie die CAT's verwyder voor jou manufacturers warranty nie expire het nie of hulle kan die waarborg weier
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Piet
Dit is hy daai. Yes Aluminium,lead, plastic,etc. lying on the ground.
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Wed Jan 20, 2016 9:37 pm

CasKru wrote:
Johan Kriel wrote:Grass gather over time round the exhaust and/or CATs.

That's the first mod that I will do on a V6 cruiser, get rid of those CATs, other wise clean out he grass twice a day when driving off road.
Sover ek weet kan jy nie die CAT's verwyder voor jou manufacturers warranty nie expire het nie of hulle kan die waarborg weier
Wie worry oor Toyotas se waarborg! :laugh2: Jyt dit nie nodg nie.

Nee ons maak hom net binnekant mooi skoon. Toyota sal nie weet nie. Ons vee boere kan nie bekostig dat die kar brand en die plaas afbrand nie :boss:

Daai bietjie CO wat die CAT gespaar het as dan elkgeval in sy moer met al die gras wat brand.
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Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:42 pm

CasKru wrote:I would say go with proper brand fuses. If not for quick thinking from my side I also would have had a burnt out vehicle due to a 10A fuse that did not pop but rather roasted a 6mm wire.

I'm referring to blade fuses. Bought mine from a car shop in a small "fishing tackle" box with the small compartments with all the different rating fuses. After the above almost disaster I tested a few of them and at least 30% of them did not pop.... into the bin and went and bought Wurth fuses and replaced all mine.
Also using Wurth :thumbup:

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