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Post by THROTTLE-BOY »

:shock: I have placed an add in the wanted section of this forum for bigger tyres.....this is why :oops:
I'm building a "crawler".....don't get this confused with a challenge vehicle, it's purely for rocks (100+:1 reduction in 1st)
It's got a fuel injected 229 cid Chevy V6 that will still get a dry sump oiling system,SM465 box,twin sticked NP205,front and rear steer portal axles,four corner solinoid operated braking system,pneumatic operated front and rear diff-locks,fully adustable air-ride system,front and rear hydraulic steering....blah blah blah...dont want to bore you with all the tech stuff.
At the end of the day i want to build something that can go anywhere and when it gets kicked hard it must ask for another
helping..... :twisted: Image
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:shock: No the I-beams under the rig don't stay there!!!! If i got R100-00 bucks every time for that question i'd have this rig
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What axles....404 Mog?
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:) Yes Zantus you are right! Don't see many of these old mog axles out there anymore.
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:D THANX to grensvegter BLOM from the oily little village of LANDROVIA i now have some bigger wheels ! :D
My crawler now has a set of 39.5 x 15 x15 TSL's under her belly :shock:
This week i started working on the suspension control arms and should have rig "FREE STANDING" by friday
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i have also had the M&P FAB beadlocks powder coated
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Mark

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Your work looks 1st class.
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:mrgreen: Green with envy...
Sooo!! many toys it must be great, cant wait to see the crawler finished and in action :wink:
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Looks awesome! :shock: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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ICan tell you okes that this rig will push the bounderies when in action, Fab work is of the best quality and the design is awsome.
Mark I can't wait to see it opperate
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The pics are a bit small and I would like to admire it from a bit closer. Could you PLEEEAAASE make it bigger? Pretty please... :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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:shock:
Johan I can promise you. ek voel effe geintemedeerd as ek langs mark se crawler staa die ding is HUGE
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NIce!!!!!!!

And who was lurking in the corner in the first pics..... :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

My new babe!!!!!!!!Lucy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As ek nie daarheen kan ry nie, is dit nie die moeite werd om daarheen te gaan nie..............
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:shock:
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HannesCreamsoda wrote:NIce!!!!!!!

And who was lurking in the corner in the first pics..... :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

My new babe!!!!!!!!Lucy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
En wat se jou vrou daarvan...? :shock: :twisted: :twisted:
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Hey Pendego waas die GROOT fories ?
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:shock: was too surprised to see all the replies.....thought i was alone on planet ROCKCRAWL... :twisted:
i'll send pics of the rig as i progress....
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Busy at the moment with the 4 bottom control arms.....as you can imagine this all
has to be built bulletproof :lol: TO make it THROTTLE proof :twisted:
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You better! Otherwise we'll never forgive you and ban you to the oily village of Landrovia, where you'll spend the rest of your days fixing Land Rovers. :twisted: :wink:
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Why left hand drive :?:
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Post by THROTTLE-BOY »

:D I will keep on with the pics as i progess.....so no BANNING please !
I made it left hand drive becauase i offset the motor 50mm to the right to get better drive-line
angles and more leg room . :D
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Mark, this is your first formal warning. It has been ten days since your last post and 2 weeks since your last update -what's happening? Come on, we want to know! :mrgreen:
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:shock: I humbly appologise it won't happen again :lol: I have been busy on other rigs
the past 2 weeks and haven't had much time for my baby.....this is not an excuse i know.....
so here is what i'm doing for the control arms, as you can see they will be working with an
air ride system that will be fully adjustable on all four corners of the rig.....as they say a picture says
a thousand words !
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I'm also using M30 joints to make sure there's no breakage issues.....i hope
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Post by ashtabula4wd »

Wow, that rig will be a monster! I am very impressed. Are the axles from a Unimog? Unimog is such a rare sight around here, I've only seen one once in person! Nice work!
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Thanx Peter, i havn't had time to do much on the Rig lately.....busy building Rigs for friends and also trying to keep my old faithful Hilux running.The axles are unimog portals with a 7.6:1 final ratio.....I'm busy with a "doubler" set-up at the moment to get even a better crawl ratio, at the moment it's a 100:1 in first as the SM465 has a "granny 1st" gear,with the "doubler" in place this should go to about 200:1....think that should be enough to "CRAWL" with !!! I'll try post some new pics as well !
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:think: At last some time to post new pics.....the new control arms are fitted.'High misalignment" bushes are in place giving the joints double their turning capacity.....the V6 Chevy has also been tossed out and replaced with a stout Chevy V8 that will have enough horses to "light -up" the 39.5's :wth: :wth: .....Yes we are moving foward again :clap:
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:shock: Looking good, Mark! :thumbup:
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Cool :thumbup:
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AWSOME :lol:
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Its been a while now but this is the year of the Crawler..... :yahoo: .I have dusted off the "Monster" and surgery will comence soon !
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Glad you decided to leave the Playstation for a while & commence work on your draadkar!!! :cooldude:
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I WANT ONE TOOOOOOO!!!!!!

Awesome voertuig en baie netjiese werk Mark. Kan nie wag om te sien hoe lyk die finale produk nie!

Sal jy my Hilux se body daarop kan sit sodat mammie nie agterkom ek het 'n nuwe speeldeng nie?
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ABSOLUTELY AWESOME!!

Now just add a bin at the back for an estern cape kudu and you can sell that to any hunter who's had to climb those mountains!
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WOW !
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WOW!!! dis nou n smart DIY speelding!! :thumbup:
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witmamba wrote:Glad you decided to leave the Playstation for a while & commence work on your draadkar!!! :cooldude:
:laugh2: I learn't how to drive the way I do on My playstation !
Thanx for the cool comments and Yes we'll need some mountains to play on when this Rigs done.....Heres how it flexes so far . The control arms are connected up front and now the bottom links need to be fabbed up to triangulate the diff. The rear end will flex a third more as the fulcrum point differs from the front so I guess there will be more than enough articulation for any terrain.
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Ek dink hierdie wa sal loop waar 'n bobbejaan met 'n kierie nie kan loop nie!!!
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Lyk goed!
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:thumbup: Heres a shot of the 2 Crawlers We are busy with.....
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:shock: :shock: :thumbup: :thumbup: Mark that looks 'befonk' :cool:

Is the second one for me :twisted: ;-)
If you what to see what a Hilux can do click below :cool: :thumbup: :twisted:

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Dis nou een standaard bedonnerde draadkar wat so flex!
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Pype wrote::shock: :shock: :thumbup: :thumbup: Mark that looks 'befonk' :cool:

Is the second one for me :twisted: ;-)
:laugh2: Andre You need to visit our shop .....I don't think Peter will let His Crawler go so easily ....We'll have to build another for You :yahoo:
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Dis nou mooi.wat kos so draadkar.
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Mark, gaan die monster buggy in aksie wees die Saterdag by Hennops?
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THROTTLE-BOY wrote: :laugh2: Andre You need to visit our shop .....We'll have to build another for You :yahoo:
Will do :thumbup: will like to see what you are up to, the rigs I have seen that you build does their job pretty well :thumbup: :cool:
OOOOMS wrote:Mark, gaan die monster buggy in aksie wees die Saterdag by Hennops?
:think: :think: OOOOMS meen jy nie Hekpoort nie, lyk my die ouderdom begine nou wys :tongue: :wink2:
If you what to see what a Hilux can do click below :cool: :thumbup: :twisted:

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Pype wrote:
THROTTLE-BOY wrote: :laugh2: Andre You need to visit our shop .....We'll have to build another for You :yahoo:
Will do :thumbup: will like to see what you are up to, the rigs I have seen that you build does their job pretty well :thumbup: :cool:
OOOOMS wrote:Mark, gaan die monster buggy in aksie wees die Saterdag by Hennops?
:think: :think: OOOOMS meen jy nie Hekpoort nie, lyk my die ouderdom begine nou wys :tongue: :wink2:
Eish ja......bedoel Hekpoort..... :banned:
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OOOOMS wrote:Mark, gaan die monster buggy in aksie wees die Saterdag by Hennops?
I wish it was finished already but No :beg:
I will as usual bring My weapon of choice No7...It always brings out the responsible adult in Me !!! :yahoo:
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Great :!: Hope to see No7 there then :thumbup:

ps Nice pic :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo:
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very nice pic :thumbup: :thumbup:
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Cool pic; it's like the truck is waving to the camera.

What tires are those?

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Thanx for the comments.....the tyres are Simex Centipede 36x12.5x15,these are the best Mud tyres I've ever run off-road.The grip like hell !
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Mark,I've got a 1980 SFA project that I will Start on soon,but i want to know if it's a lot of work to build it with the link suspention front and rear,and will it still be a nice ride on road?

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Calbro2,to do the 4-link isn't a problem in the rear except for the stock fuel tank.....this can be relocated by fitting a custom tank under the Rig.You get great flex out of the rear but the front end has issues with a 4-link....You'll probably get away with control arms and a panhard rod in the front. A 4-linked Rig also gives more body roll at speed with no torsion bar so I'd suggest a set of blades up front for stability and a 4-link in the back.Heres a pic of my Hilux with a 4-link rear and stock blades up front.
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THROTTLE-BOY wrote:Calbro2,to do the 4-link isn't a problem in the rear except for the stock fuel tank.....this can be relocated by fitting a custom tank under the Rig.You get great flex out of the rear but the front end has issues with a 4-link....You'll probably get away with control arms and a panhard rod in the front. A 4-linked Rig also gives more body roll at speed with no torsion bar so I'd suggest a set of blades up front for stability and a 4-link in the back.Heres a pic of my Hilux with a 4-link rear and stock blades up front.
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Thanx for this info Mark,it's nice to have that kind of info from someone with firsthand experience!!!!
If my hilux can do what yours does in that pic,I'll be HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY!! :yahoo:


How much moola will it cost to build the rear link suspention,Or maybe if you had to build it for me,so I can start saving :oops:
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Mark,is this more or less the setup?
So what will I need to build this?
* ___size hollow bar
* Big rose joints
* Long ciol springs
* Long shocks
* Fuel tank
* CO2 welder
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Corne,theres a couple of things one needs to adress with a 4-link, firstly how much "Tar" does the vehicle see.... as You'll need stiffer rear coils to keep the body roll to a minimum.I use M20 joints and sched tube for the links because breaking a link at speed means changing lanes without flickers and You'll almost always land up checking the quality of the welds on Your Roll-cage... :blackeye:
Budget almost always dictates how much flex you'll get at the end of the day.
The pic You posted shows a "Off-road" rig with Fox Airshocks,Theres plenty of flex but You'll be picking up your side mirrors in a tight corner as the body rolls ! :shock2:
The 4-link in My hilux works well with no bind and plenty flex,the geometry is perfect so the universals live longer.If your 4-links right You can "Kick" it all day long with no worries :tease:
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Started again this weekend to get my thoughts together regarding this Crawler project.....Time is the biggest enemy,You have to make time or you'll never get it done.Dusted the old girl down and was quite relieved to see that most of the welding was completed already. :yahoo:
I decided to TIG weld all the joints for maximum strength and penetration because a Rig like this is going to roll......thats a give ! Most of the framework is triangulated for strength as well. TIG welding does take a while longer but I feel theres no substitute .....good welds make good cages.With none of us getting any younger,it's always a great idea. A wise man once said "With age comes a CAGE"...... :boss: Good cages don't get built with oil bath welders.....at the end of the day it's usually the only thing that stands between you and hard place. :blackeye: keeping in mind that stupid always hurts !
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Nice Mark, following your progress with interest :thumbup:
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Those are VERY nice welds! :thumbup: ;-)
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Thanx for the comments....I've made some time to get my thoughts around the 4-link setup for the front and rear of the Rig.This morning I ordered the plane end bearings for the links that I need to fab by the end of the week.I took M 30's just for the peace of mind.....don't want to be doing "Flower Trail" and have a link break ! :cooldude:
Theres been a lot of ideas aroud the tranfere cases but I've decided to go with the tried and tested "Doubler" setup.....It'll stand up to all the abuse and still ask for more if You aren't kicking it 'HARD" enough......My type of tranfere case setup. This will give the Rig endless configurations of gearing ....stating at 4-high ,4-low ,4-crawl 225:1, all in 4 wheel drive,2 wheel drive rear and 2 wheel drive front only as I've already twin sticked the NP205..... :yahoo:

Heres an example of the "Doubler" I'm busy with.....
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