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Sun Aug 25, 2013 12:00 pm

Hi there,
I'm busy building a bull-bar made out of an old sfa roll-bar.
I would like to share it with you. But I cannot upload any photos.
Is there someone I can mail it to,to share on the forum?

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Sun Aug 25, 2013 2:07 pm

You can mail to me ..... andy@hilux4x4.co.za

Also have a look at this topic for future use to upload pics.

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Sun Aug 25, 2013 5:12 pm

Thanks Andy,
The problem is that I only have my cellphone and its difficult to navigate a post with pictures.
When I'm finished I will mail you the pictures and short story.
Thanks in advance

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Sun Aug 25, 2013 5:15 pm

Pleasure! Will watch out for your mail. ;-)
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Still no mail.
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Mon Aug 26, 2013 1:31 pm

Sorry guys, still busy with the bull-bar.
Will mail Andy as soon as I'm finished.
Now busy fitting the recovery, and lift points.
Still need to do a lot of grinding to make my welding lood good.
Then prime and paint.
Hopefully I'll be finished end of the week. :beg:

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ja komaan. die spanning van wag maak my mal :excited: :excited: :crazy2: :crazy2:

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Mailed some pics to Andy.
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brilliant idea and looks great

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Tue Aug 27, 2013 10:56 am

:think: Looks good

How are you mounting it?
I think your recovery points might be a bit flimsy.....
Looks like you will be pulling in line with the 2 bolts on each side.....
Look at placing a 8mm to 10mm plate running along or under the chassie and bolt through it into exsisting threaded holes in the chassie.
That will give you the sideways strenght of the HT bolt (bolt rating 8.8 no less)
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Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:33 pm

Thanks Andy, will send the rest as I go along.

I think for a sparky on his first try its not to bad.
Yes Johno, I don't have any experience with metal and welding strengh.
Will see what happens and if it fails, I will go back to the drawing board.

The recovery points is just there to get the brake down landdrovers out of my way
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Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:47 pm

the square tube at the bottom was part of the old bumper, so mounting it on the existing four threaded points on the chassis. Johno, are you talking about the force on the recovery point on a sideways pull?

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The way up imounting now will only pull directly inline with the bolt so you relying on the thread alone....
Is you have bolts going through a plate vertical to the horizontal pulling line they are stronger......
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Tue Aug 27, 2013 2:14 pm

Look at basic drawing.....

Bolts can be added on the side or under the chassis......
Try use existing threaded holes on the chassis side or under it.... :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
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Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:40 pm

Thanks Johno, will modify it....

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Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:21 am

Andre

Dit lyk goed. Ek het met my bumper weggebly van enige welding op die mountings - alles is gebout.

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mosteran wrote:Thanks Johno, will modify it....
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Once you done with that you should not have any problems as long as you use the 8.8 rated HT bolts
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Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:37 pm

Personally I don't think you need to go with bolts .... proper welding is stronger. That said, a lot depends on the wall thickness of the sq tubing and the quality of the welds. Perhaps I'm not seeing it so nicely without close-up pics but what concerns me is the places I've circled ..............
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It would have been ideal if the recovery point steel went all the way through to the rear of the sq tube and welded there as well, but what it looks like to me is that you have made butt-joints. This means that the weld or material is able to tear more easily. That's why I mentioned material thickness of the sq tube .... if it's thick enough, 2.5mm or more, it will hold fine. That brings me to the actual welds. The top of the butt-joints (where I've marked them "A" and "B") is the weakest area and that's where they will allow a tear to start (once it starts it runs and rips the whole thing off). Here is where weld penetration / strength is important. I would double up on those welds at about 110amps with a 2.5mm electrode, and 'flow' that weld over a slightly larger area .... top and sides.

The other places I've encircled is the 'inner' corners .... the welds don't look complete ... looks like there's slag or something in there. As I said, I cannot see it clearly on the general pic, so I might be mistaken, but those welds should also be good and continuous with the underside welds along the lift point pipes. That will more than sufficiently reinforce the strength at the bottom.

Otherwise looking good!

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Wed Aug 28, 2013 6:45 pm

Andy the square tubing wall is 3mm thick and I think my welding is not to bad. Though of maybe putting a thick flat bar on top of recovery point that stretch over the square bar as well. Still deciding.

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Wed Aug 28, 2013 7:29 pm

3mm wall is adequate. Just flow a 2nd weld over the sides like I said and the idea of a strap welded across the top is good, a bit overkill, but it'll make certain that it doesn't tear. :thumbup: (A 20 x 5mm flat-bar strap should do it).
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Looks good so far.... :thumbup:
Looks like you have a little more gap under the drivers side light compared to the other side....
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Looks very good Andre'. I also ended up with a gap on the drivers side on the one I made. Will try and sort it out when I strip the truck to spray paint and rust removing. :thumbup:

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Fix it with a shim plate on the passenger side. :D:
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:blushing: Dam, I thought you wouldn't pick up on that so quickly. I think the trouble started when I welded the first pipe. My garage floor isn't level. Will try something to sort it out. On another note, work has interfered with my hobby. So the bumper will not be finished today. Will try my best to finish this coming week.

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Finally, fitted the bumper yesterday. Wanted to paint it matt-black but I had the finishing black on my garage shelf. Pics will follow
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George, its fitted with the WL motor, used in the older ford/mazda bakkies. 2.5 turbo with intercooler.

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Vehicle: Fortuner 4x4, 1994 Hilux dbl cab 4x4
Real Name: Andre
Location: Springbok, noord kaap

Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:59 pm

Interesting site. Help to work out the angles needed when working with pipe.
http://snip.awardspace.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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CasKru
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Town: Benoni
Vehicle: '94 Hilux Raider 2.4i (22RE) DC 4x4
Real Name: Cassie
ORRA Call Sign: B15
Location: Rynfield

Tue Sep 10, 2013 4:13 pm

mosteran wrote:Interesting site. Help to work out the angles needed when working with pipe.
http://snip.awardspace.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
now that is handy
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smokintyres
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Town: Windhoek
Vehicle: Hilux 2.7, D/C, 4x4, double tank, extra battery, 31' Hankooks, DIY front bumber, DIY canopy with drawer, freeflow and branches, EFS suspension for now.
Real Name: Gernot

Tue Sep 10, 2013 4:55 pm

CasKru wrote:
mosteran wrote:Interesting site. Help to work out the angles needed when working with pipe.
http://snip.awardspace.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
now that is handy
2nd that! :thumbup:
Thanks for sharing :thumbup:

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Mud Dog
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Vehicle: '90 SFA Hilux DC 4X4, Full OME, 110mm lift. Brospeed branch, 50mm ss freeflow exhaust. 30 x 9.5 Discoverer S/T's on Viper mags. L/R tank. (AWOL) '98 LTD 2.4 SFA, dual battery system. Dobinson suspension, LR tanks, 31" BF mud's.
Real Name: Andy

Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:04 pm

Here are the pics ...... Nice, Andre'!! :thumbup: :thumbup:

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When your road comes to an end ...... you need a HILUX!.

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Thunder02
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ORRA Call Sign: HC105
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Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:02 pm

:clap: :clap: :clap:
:drool:

Stunning job :thumbup:
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Town: King Williams Town
Vehicle: Hilux
Real Name: Edge
ORRA Call Sign: HC129

Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:26 pm

Very Nice :thumbup: :clap: :clap: :clap:
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mcw
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Town: krugersdorp
Vehicle: Prado 90 V6 3.4 Auto
Real Name: Martin
ORRA Call Sign: X100

Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:42 pm

:clap: :clap: really good :thumbup: :thumbup:

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JJBotes
LR4WD, Lockers, Crawler Gears
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Town: Witbank
Vehicle: KZ-TE
Real Name: JJ

Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:14 pm

WOW - Baie,baie nice !!! :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
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GeorgeJvR
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Vehicle: 1998 Prado 3.4 V6 A/T, 2005 Vigo 3.0 D4D 4x4 ARB- protection plate -B/Bar -T/Bar, ONCA sliders, Winch, snorkel, Chipped; 1997 SFA D/C met 3.0 KZ TE motor.
Real Name: George

Wed Sep 11, 2013 7:25 am

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
To Buy and sell a vehicle is my hobby
Make a deal that no one else thought possible is my aim

Kom wat wil ek bly 'n Bul!

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JEEPIE
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Town: Roodepoort
Vehicle: Official hilux 4x4 club recovery vehicle
Real Name: Shaun
ORRA Call Sign: X 43

Wed Sep 11, 2013 7:39 am

not to shabby nig
thats now a custom looker
1 of a kind
OFFICIAL HILUX 4x4 RECOVERY VEHICLE

if you want to change this to recovered , first recover me - and have a relevant picture / foto to prove it !
ADVANCED 4x4 DRIVER COURSES DONE : US 254135 / US 254154
(STILL AWAITING SO-CALLED TETA CERTIFICATION VIA THE SERVICE PROVIDER AFRICAN OFF-ROAD ACADEMY - WHAT A JOKE)

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Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:12 am

Still my favorite design for a bumper. :goodjob:
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Hi-Hilux
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Town: Tsumeb
Vehicle: 1991 Hilux2.2 ---1987 Hilux D/C Hella 1000, Rancho RS9000XL shocks, Good Year M/TR, Warn Winch, STK bullbar, Extended shacles, Kenwood VHF-SOLD
Real Name: Trevor
Location: Namibia

Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:01 pm

Andre, gaan jy omgee s ek jou idee gebruik?
Is gebed jou spaarwiel of jou stuurwiel?
'Life is a coin. You can spend it anyway you wish, but you can only spend it ONCE'

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mosteran
Low Range 4WD
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Town: Springbok
Vehicle: Fortuner 4x4, 1994 Hilux dbl cab 4x4
Real Name: Andre
Location: Springbok, noord kaap

Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:25 pm

:thumbup: Hi Trevor, ja gaan mal. Ek kan vir jou fotos mail ook as jy wil. Onthou net dat ek jou hande werk wil sien.

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Hi-Hilux
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Real Name: Trevor
Location: Namibia

Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:51 pm

Thanx Andre, ek het op my vorige hilux 'n ARB een gebou maar soek iets anders vir die "nuwe" hilux en hierdie een van jou trek my aandag BAIE!
Is gebed jou spaarwiel of jou stuurwiel?
'Life is a coin. You can spend it anyway you wish, but you can only spend it ONCE'

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sir shrek
LR 4WD Rear Locker
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Town: Kempton Park
Vehicle: '09 Hilux D/C 4.0 V6 AKA 'BULLET' Hilux D/C 7M-GE aka SIR SHREK(SOLD) Jetta MK5 2.0TFSI
Real Name: Claude

Tue Nov 12, 2013 7:43 am

Awesome.
Wat ek die meeste like is die goeie airflow. No restrictions at all.
Maak meer sin as die tipe wat heeltemal toe gemaak word met plaat.
Well done :clap: :clap: :clap:
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3" suspension lift 31" bfg muds dual fuel tanks custom bushbar 7M-GE
Rear Diff Lock Custom made snorkel
UGLY LIKE SHREK,STRONG LIKE RUSSIA

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Donkey
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Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:33 am
Town: Johannesburg
Vehicle: 2002 3.0KZ-TE 4x4, Eazyawn RTT, Snorkel, NudgeM Bumper, 38mm Ball Joint Spacers, 35" Maxxis Bighorns, Dastek Unichip, 60 ltr Snomaster fridge/freezer, 40mm body lift, Mikem front/rear with extended shackles, Bilsteins shox rear
Real Name: Tumelo Thebe aka Baas John
ORRA Call Sign: X122

Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:45 pm

Must agree looking wicked and aggresive, also practical :thumbup:
Tumelo Maketekete
Donkey, simple and often misunderstood.
We don't stop playing because we grow old, but we grow old because we stop playing!

2002 - 3.0KZ-TE Toyota Hilux (Letebele)
1994 - 1.6i Gl Toyota Corolla (Platkar)
1990 - Gli TwinCam 16v (ZuluBoy)

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Rider
Low Range 4WD
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Joined: Wed Aug 03, 2011 6:17 pm
Town: Richards Bay
Vehicle: 1987 Toyota Hilux 4x4 d/c 40mm body lift, KZ-TE Diff with Diff lock, Snorkel, 31" AT tyres , Powered by FORD 3.0 V6 uprated.
Real Name: Luke
Location: Richards bay

Thu Nov 14, 2013 6:44 pm

:boss: stunning
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PROUD OWNER OF A TOYOTA HILUX AKA AMA-HIPZ

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Hi-Hilux
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Town: Tsumeb
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Real Name: Trevor
Location: Namibia

Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:56 pm

Andre, hier is my mail stkmetals@gmail.com
Is gebed jou spaarwiel of jou stuurwiel?
'Life is a coin. You can spend it anyway you wish, but you can only spend it ONCE'

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mosteran
Low Range 4WD
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Joined: Mon Feb 14, 2011 11:30 am
Town: Springbok
Vehicle: Fortuner 4x4, 1994 Hilux dbl cab 4x4
Real Name: Andre
Location: Springbok, noord kaap

Fri Nov 15, 2013 8:17 am

Hi Trevor, het vir jou al my fotos gestuur.

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