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Auto Pilot a reality

Postby pietpetoors » Fri Oct 16, 2015 8:40 am

We live in such an exciting time. I just love all the new technology and development at the moment.

Many companies have been yapping about Autopilot for vehicles, but it finally is a reality.

I received this email from Tesla this morning.

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Tesla Auto Pilot


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Re: Auto Pilot a reality

Postby Mud Dog » Fri Oct 16, 2015 8:54 am

It was bound to happen, they've been at it for decades in some form or other starting with cruise control in the late 70's. The electronic age has speeded it up and made it possible. Would I trust it? .... Maybe not just yet. :D:
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Re: Auto Pilot a reality

Postby ChrisF » Fri Oct 16, 2015 9:31 am

Saw an article earlier this week about the insurance implications of these new systems.

Some wide ranging potential implications !!


On the one end there are liability issues - "who" causes the accident, and where does the liability stop ??

But the tests of over some 2,5 million killometers have had very FEW accidents, to the point where the article suggested that insurance claims would drastically DECREASE .... causing all kinds of other ripples in the industry.



interesting times indeed ...
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Re: Auto Pilot a reality

Postby pietpetoors » Fri Oct 16, 2015 10:04 am

It was bound to happen


Yes, just think nobody up to date had the guts to take it life.
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Re: Auto Pilot a reality

Postby Mud Dog » Fri Oct 16, 2015 2:30 pm

And probably with good reason, Pieter. Can you imagine the liability if any of the electronic gadgetry fails! :eh:

But then I suppose that they can build in a backup that takes over and warns the user that the primary unit failed and needs to be replaced / repaired. That way liability can be passed to the user unless both units fail at the same time, which is unlikely but not impossible. :think:
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Re: Auto Pilot a reality

Postby ChrisF » Fri Oct 16, 2015 4:12 pm

Mud Dog wrote:And probably with good reason, Pieter. Can you imagine the liability if any of the electronic gadgetry fails! :eh:

But then I suppose that they can build in a backup that takes over and warns the user that the primary unit failed and needs to be replaced / repaired. That way liability can be passed to the user unless both units fail at the same time, which is unlikely but not impossible. :think:


but the user would have to proove both fialed at the same time ... IF he survives for the re-boot .... :o: :naah:


I am NOT a good passanger ....
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Re: Auto Pilot a reality

Postby Mud Dog » Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:24 pm

BMW to deploy 40 self-driving cars in US, Europe .....

http://firstthing.dailymaverick.co.za/a ... G6qOXYxDxU
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Re: Auto Pilot a reality

Postby Dowe Koos » Fri Jan 06, 2017 8:17 am

Can it pass the moose test.
Ecc 1:9 Wat gewees het, dit sal daar weer wees; en wat gebeur het, dit sal weer gebeur, en daar is glad niks nuuts onder die son nie.
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Re: Auto Pilot a reality

Postby CasKru » Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:31 am

ChrisF wrote:I am NOT a good passanger ....


And herein lies my problem as well.... :naah:
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Re: Auto Pilot a reality

Postby pietpetoors » Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:50 am

Check out the video on this page on a Tesla predicting an accident and stopping in time.

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/tesla- ... d=44437198
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Postby CasKru » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:41 pm

pietpetoors wrote:Check out the video on this page on a Tesla predicting an accident and stopping in time.

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/tesla- ... d=44437198

Maar wat hulle nie vertel nie is die paar gevalle wat die stelsel ongelukke veroorsaak het.

Ek weet van een waar 'n ou dood is omdat die kar onder 'n trok in is. Bleikbaar a.g.v. 'n paar faktore het die kar nie die trok "gesien" nie
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Re: Auto Pilot a reality

Postby ChrisF » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:47 pm

jong ..... ons HET mos nou al gesien teen watter spoed elektronika verbeter ....

EN, ons het mos ook al die berge ou elektroniese rommel gesien ....

ek is SEKER dat die self-drive karre spoedig hier sal wees .... hoop net dat ek hulle re-boot foute kan vryspring .....
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Postby pietpetoors » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:51 pm

Cassie die een waar die ou dood is, het die ou te vinnig gery en hy het nie sy hande op die stuurwiel gesit toe die sisteem hom herhaaldelik gewaarsku het nie. Die sisteem was toe nog in toetsfase. "Hulle" het dus net vertel van die ongeluk, maar nie die volle verhaal nie.
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pietpetoors wrote:Cassie die een waar die ou dood is, het die ou te vinnig gery en hy het nie sy hande op die stuurwiel gesit toe die sisteem hom herhaaldelik gewaarsku het nie. Die sisteem was toe nog in toetsfase. "Hulle" het dus net vertel van die ongeluk, maar nie die volle verhaal nie.

Die ou het nie sy hande op die stuurwiel gehad nie maar die ondersoek op die blackbox het getoon dat die kar die fout gemaak het in dat die radar en kameras ens nie dieselfde gesien het nie en toe nie die kar gebriek het nie.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016 ... ident.html

Dan is daar die geval van die Chinese ou wat se kar wat onder 'n Road Sweeper in is wat hy nie gesien het nie....
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/15/busin ... .html?_r=0

Dit is onmoontlik vir die developers om vooraf aan al die moontlikhede te dink wat die stelsel kan tee kom en elektriese komponente het 'n failure rate.

Al wat ek sê is ek sal eerder self bestuur as wat ek in 'n kar ry wat bestuur word
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Re: Auto Pilot a reality

Postby wim » Fri Jan 06, 2017 1:59 pm

Imagine sending your car to get itself serviced :lmao:
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Re: Auto Pilot a reality

Postby Mud Dog » Fri Jan 06, 2017 5:56 pm

wim wrote:Imagine sending your car to get itself serviced :lmao:



I have no doubt it will become a reality in time. Better still will be that if the vehicle is stolen or hijacked that it locks everyone in the car, locks everyone out of the controls and drives to the nearest police station, sounding an alarm when it gets there. :D:
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Re: Auto Pilot a reality

Postby ChrisF » Fri Jan 06, 2017 5:58 pm

n Vriend het een van die VW produkte met "adaptive cruise control" - daai wat als rondom monitor en self afslek, selfs stop ens ....


wanneer dit werk is dit impressive !!

MAAR, ek was al te veel in daai kar wat daai liggies foute gewys het terwyl daar geen fout was nie .....

nee wat, hulle het nog so bietjie "development" om te doen ....


PS - iets soos n R100k net vir die boks wat daai stelsel beheer !!!!! dis nie eens al die sensors wat saam met die stelsel praat nie ....
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Re: Auto Pilot a reality

Postby ChrisF » Fri Jan 06, 2017 6:02 pm

onthou ook dat die Tesla ongeluk ons mooi gewys het hoe die motor industrie nou KAN kyk wat gebeur het voor n ongeluk .....

Selfs my RAV se handleiding is baie duidelik dat Toyota EERS na die onboard geheue sal kyk voor warantee eise oorweeg sal word ....


Ek glo dis net tyd voor versekering eers die data wil sien voor hulle enige eise sal hanteer ......


Konsep het seker miriete ... maar wanneer gaan jy dan meer as 600cc se krag kan gebruik ....


okay. ten minste sal my brandstof verbruik verbeter .....
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Re: Auto Pilot a reality

Postby pietpetoors » Sat Jan 07, 2017 7:47 am

Ek glo dis net tyd voor versekering eers die data wil sien voor hulle enige eise sal hanteer ......


Hulle doen dit reeds met sekere groot eise veral waar vermoed word dat hoë spoed oorsaak was.
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