What kind of bird?
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What kind of bird?
Saw this chappie on the fence close to my house ....so can you ID it?
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Re: What kind of bird?
Grapgat of eerder n ander naam vir n bulls supporterV8 Interceptor wrote:'fence-sitter'
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Re: What kind of bird?
Why do you ask when you already know, Niel! ..... You've already looked through your book "Birds of Southern Africa", have'nt you!
I'm guessing a kestrel of some kind?
I'm guessing a kestrel of some kind?
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I give my Sasol birdbook to someone (can't remember who) and now I am without one - I know very little re: birds.Mud Dog wrote:Why do you ask when you already know,
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Re: What kind of bird?
That surprises me! :wth: ..... a nature lover like yourself .... and no bird book!!??
I don't know what happened to mine ..... also without ..... will just have to wait for someone who knows.
I don't know what happened to mine ..... also without ..... will just have to wait for someone who knows.
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Re: What kind of bird?
Mud Dog wrote:I don't know what happened to mine ..... also without
look who's talking
Will google it a bit later.
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Good luck!
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Re: What kind of bird?
U didn't need to tell us that......I know very little re: birds.
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I was waiting for the comments ....
Re: What kind of bird?
At first I thought you were referring to gum...till I saw the pic!Saw this chappie on the fence
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Re: What kind of bird?
ok, it seems not:
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Black-shouldered Kite
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Black-shouldered Kite
At Samsonvale Cemetery, SE Queensland
Conservation status
Least Concern (IUCN 3.1)
Scientific classification
Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Class: Aves
Order: Accipitriformes
Family: Accipitridae
Genus: Elanus
Species: E. axillaris
Binomial name
Elanus axillaris
(Latham, 1802)
The Black-shouldered Kite (Elanus axillaris) or Australian Black-shouldered Kite is a small raptor found in open habitat throughout Australia and should not be confused with the Black-winged Kite, which is also called Black-shouldered Kite. Like all the elanid kites, it is a specialist predator of rodents.
Contents [hide]
1 Taxonomy
2 Description
3 Distribution and habitat
4 Food and hunting
5 Flight
6 References
[edit] Taxonomy
The name "Black-shouldered Kite" was formerly used for a Eurasian and African species, Elanus caeruleus, and the Australian bird (and also a North American species, the White-tailed Kite Elanus leucurus) was treated as a subspecies of this. However, the three species are now regarded as distinct, and the name Black-winged Kite is used for E. caeruleus. Modern references to the Black-shouldered Kite should therefore unambiguously mean the Australian species.
[edit] Description
Black-Shouldered Kites are around 35 to 38 cm in length and have a wingspan of between 80 and 95 cm. Adults are a very pale grey with a white head and white underparts. The leading edge of the inner wing is black. When perched, this gives them their prominent black "shoulders". It has a squared tail, and like all birds, a streamlined aerodynamic body.
[edit] Distribution and habitat
Although reported from almost all parts of Australia, they are most common in the relatively fertile south-east and south-west corners of the mainland, and in south-east Queensland.They are also common throughout Southern Africa. They are rare in the deep desert and appear to be only accidental visitors to northern Tasmania and the Torres Strait islands. Although found in timbered country, they are mainly birds of the grasslands. European occupation of Australia has, on the whole, benefited them by clearing vast expanses of forest for agriculture and providing suitable conditions for much larger numbers of mice.
[edit] Food and hunting
HuntingBlack-shouldered Kites live almost exclusively on mice. They take other suitably-sized creatures when available, including grasshoppers, rats, small reptiles, birds, and even (very rarely) rabbits, but mice and other mouse-sized mammals account for over 90% of their diet. Their influence on mouse populations is probably significant: adults take two or three mice a day each if they can, and on one occasion a male was observed bringing no less than 14 mice to a nest of well-advanced fledglings within an hour.
Like other elanid kites, Black-shouldered Kites hunt by quartering grasslands for small creatures. This can be from a perch (usually a dead tree, as illustrated above), but more often by hovering in mid-air with conspicuous skill and little apparent effort. Typically, a kite will hover 10 to 50 metres above a particular spot, peering down intently, sometimes for only a few seconds, often for a minute or more, then glide swiftly to a new vantage point and hover again.
When a mouse or other prey is spotted, the kite drops silently onto it, feet-first with wings raised high; sometimes in one long drop to ground level, more often in two or more stages, with hovering pauses at intermediate heights. About two-thirds of attacks are successful. Prey can either be eaten in flight or carried back to a perch.
[edit] Flight
The black-shouldered kite spirals into the wind like a Kestrel. It can soar fast, wings in a V shape. This kite flaps slowly and deeply, which bounces its body. The black shouldered kite can most often be seen hovering with its tail pointing down.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black-shouldered_Kite
Black-shouldered Kite
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Black-shouldered Kite
At Samsonvale Cemetery, SE Queensland
Conservation status
Least Concern (IUCN 3.1)
Scientific classification
Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Class: Aves
Order: Accipitriformes
Family: Accipitridae
Genus: Elanus
Species: E. axillaris
Binomial name
Elanus axillaris
(Latham, 1802)
The Black-shouldered Kite (Elanus axillaris) or Australian Black-shouldered Kite is a small raptor found in open habitat throughout Australia and should not be confused with the Black-winged Kite, which is also called Black-shouldered Kite. Like all the elanid kites, it is a specialist predator of rodents.
Contents [hide]
1 Taxonomy
2 Description
3 Distribution and habitat
4 Food and hunting
5 Flight
6 References
[edit] Taxonomy
The name "Black-shouldered Kite" was formerly used for a Eurasian and African species, Elanus caeruleus, and the Australian bird (and also a North American species, the White-tailed Kite Elanus leucurus) was treated as a subspecies of this. However, the three species are now regarded as distinct, and the name Black-winged Kite is used for E. caeruleus. Modern references to the Black-shouldered Kite should therefore unambiguously mean the Australian species.
[edit] Description
Black-Shouldered Kites are around 35 to 38 cm in length and have a wingspan of between 80 and 95 cm. Adults are a very pale grey with a white head and white underparts. The leading edge of the inner wing is black. When perched, this gives them their prominent black "shoulders". It has a squared tail, and like all birds, a streamlined aerodynamic body.
[edit] Distribution and habitat
Although reported from almost all parts of Australia, they are most common in the relatively fertile south-east and south-west corners of the mainland, and in south-east Queensland.They are also common throughout Southern Africa. They are rare in the deep desert and appear to be only accidental visitors to northern Tasmania and the Torres Strait islands. Although found in timbered country, they are mainly birds of the grasslands. European occupation of Australia has, on the whole, benefited them by clearing vast expanses of forest for agriculture and providing suitable conditions for much larger numbers of mice.
[edit] Food and hunting
HuntingBlack-shouldered Kites live almost exclusively on mice. They take other suitably-sized creatures when available, including grasshoppers, rats, small reptiles, birds, and even (very rarely) rabbits, but mice and other mouse-sized mammals account for over 90% of their diet. Their influence on mouse populations is probably significant: adults take two or three mice a day each if they can, and on one occasion a male was observed bringing no less than 14 mice to a nest of well-advanced fledglings within an hour.
Like other elanid kites, Black-shouldered Kites hunt by quartering grasslands for small creatures. This can be from a perch (usually a dead tree, as illustrated above), but more often by hovering in mid-air with conspicuous skill and little apparent effort. Typically, a kite will hover 10 to 50 metres above a particular spot, peering down intently, sometimes for only a few seconds, often for a minute or more, then glide swiftly to a new vantage point and hover again.
When a mouse or other prey is spotted, the kite drops silently onto it, feet-first with wings raised high; sometimes in one long drop to ground level, more often in two or more stages, with hovering pauses at intermediate heights. About two-thirds of attacks are successful. Prey can either be eaten in flight or carried back to a perch.
[edit] Flight
The black-shouldered kite spirals into the wind like a Kestrel. It can soar fast, wings in a V shape. This kite flaps slowly and deeply, which bounces its body. The black shouldered kite can most often be seen hovering with its tail pointing down.
Re: What kind of bird?
Pretty close thought Niel, the one in your pic looks smaller :problem:
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Re: What kind of bird?
Looks very similar Niel ..... was about to ask if it's habitat includes the southern / western Cape .... wonder if the guy escaped from an aviary or if it's a different bird .....
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Re: What kind of bird?
Mark the pic was taken from my stoep and the birdie (no gum) was approx 60/70m away from me.
I live at the back/end of the reserve and these are the birds of pray they say one find in this area. I saw a pic of a pigmy falcon but the habitat is wrong for it to be that.
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who needs a book these days :shifty:
I live at the back/end of the reserve and these are the birds of pray they say one find in this area. I saw a pic of a pigmy falcon but the habitat is wrong for it to be that.
http://www.westerncapeaccommodation.co. ... re-reserve
who needs a book these days :shifty:
Re: What kind of bird?
In the future the training centre's will be offering the following course:
How to take your lap-top for a walk.....
....man, I hope I never see that day :!:
How to take your lap-top for a walk.....
....man, I hope I never see that day :!:
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Re: What kind of bird?
Dit is 'n jong Blou valkie! (Blackshouldered Kite)
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Re: What kind of bird?
got a closer look at the gum eating draadsitter this evening
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Re: What kind of bird?
If it's not the black shouldered kite, then it's his brother! Maybe they exist here as well, even though it's not their native habitat. They could have been introduced here to curb some form of infestation, or have escaped from an aviary or breeding program ..... the possible reasons for it being here are many.
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Re: What kind of bird?
'n Blouvalk dit is...'n jongetjie...definitief...
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+1Bosfebok wrote:'n Blouvalk dit is...'n jongetjie...definitief...