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What Snake (3) Crossed marked Whip Snake

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This baby did not want to pose for a photograph so I had to catch it in order to photograph.
It is only about 5mm thick and 20cm long.
Any ideas what it is?
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Nee Pieter, jy het my, ek gee op. Vertel my asb?

(hoe't jy hom gevang- behalwe nou baie versigtig)
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Ja nee, this one I don't know either ... the only one close to that which I'm familiar with is the "skaapsteker", but still looks quite different. :think:
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Ja nee, this one I don't know either ... the only one close to that which I'm familiar with is the "skaapsteker", but still looks quite different. :think:
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pieter ons vang hulle baie hier in namibia veral toe ons nog in oshakati gebly het, my seuns het hulle soms aangehou vir n paar dae, ons noem hulle sweepslange, weet nie of dit hulle regte naam is nie. Volgens mense is hulle giftig maar hulle tande en bekke te klein om skade te doen aan n mens.......as dit nou die selfe slang is bygese.....
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Hi Trevor, ek het gaan kyk na die Sweepslang, maar die fotos wat ek daarvan sien is hulle lywe net een kleur en die een wat ons gevang het, het strepe.
Met die soektog het ek nou op die SA Reptiles forum afgekom wat nogal baie interresant lyk.
Sien fotos op links hieronder
http://academic.sun.ac.za/capeherp/cede ... oosand.htm
http://www.sareptiles.co.za/forum/viewt ... 61&t=10989
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I think: a dwarf sand snake ?
Common in Namibia
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baie nice links Pieter. Die wat ons vang lyk net soos jou foto, ook die strepe is net nie seker oor die kolle op die kop nie. Sal kyk vir foto of probeer een vang. Sal nou ook die naam wil weet.
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I see on that SA Reptile forum they have a place where you can record your observations
http://www.sareptiles.co.za/forum/viewforum.php?f=48
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OK, die slang deskundiges reken
That snake is part of the Psammophis gensus that of Sand/whip snakes. In particular that is Crossed marked Whip Snake Psammophis crucifer. They are quite common and are mildly venomous but wont cause a person much of a problem.
http://www.sareptiles.co.za/forum/viewt ... 46#p183846

Trevor, jy was toe reg, :clap: 'n Sweepslang en Whip Snake is seker dieselle ding.
As mens search vir Cross Marked Whip Snake dan kry mens fotos van die wat wel strepe het, sien die mooi foto:
http://calphotos.berkeley.edu/cgi/img_q ... +0310+1673
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Yep, I think that nails it, Pieter! I saw photos earlier of whip snakes that had the similar markings on the head, but no stripes and I wondered if it was of the same species. Not found in my area. Quite beautiful actually. :thumbup:
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Die "Crossed Whip Snake" kan vir jou 'n lekker brand pyn gee as hy jou a decent "nab" met sy tande kan gee - mildly venomous, sommige mense kry 'n redelike kopseer soos 'n goeie babalaas.
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Gewoonlik wag ek nie om te sien wat die effek is as hy my byt nie, ek bly maar so ver moontlik weg van hulle, ek loer maar so oor 'n afstand. As die een groter was sou ek hom sekerlik nie gevang het nie.

Kobus, wat is die beste manier om 'n slang te vang (behalwe met die kaal hand)?

Ek het eendag gesien 'n ou het 'n oulike plan gemaak, hy het 'n lang stuk wit elektriese pyp gevat, 'n tou dubbel gevou en deur die pyp gedruk sodat hy aan een kant 'n "loop" maak. Hy het die "loop" oor die slang se kop gesit en toe die tou aan die anderkant getrek sodat hy hom op daai manier vastrek. Kan mens dit so doen of gaan jy die slang se keel seer maak?
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That idea works perfectly, but the rope must be quite thick ..... both for stiffness and for not 'cutting' into the snake and hurting it as you mentioned. Ideal would be if the doubled rope takes up more or less the full inside diameter of the pipe so that there is no room for the snake's body / neck to be pulled into the pipe. It's also a good idea to heat the end of the PVC pipe and flare it while it's soft. This makes it much smoother to operate as well. ;-)
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