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Tue Nov 01, 2016 8:46 pm

I have not been very active on the forum for quite a while. Apologies if this topic has already been covered elsewhere. I would appreciate some views on the new 2.4 vs the 2.8 Hilux. Although I understand that the 2.8 is the better vehicle -is it worth the extra moela? I've heard the new 2.4 is almost (if not better) as good as the previous D4D! IT obviously blows the old 2.5 out the water. Grateful,if I could have your expert comments/advice
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Tue Nov 01, 2016 9:23 pm

Ek het laasweek 'n 2.8 DC 4x4 AT gery, bakkie loop lekker en was impressed. MAAR, as ek my hardverdiende geld moet spandeer koop ek die 2.4

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Sun Nov 06, 2016 6:47 am

Stem saam - het gister die 2.4 (6 spoed handrat 400 N.w torque) toets bestuur en kan getuig die wa is n fees!
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Sun Nov 06, 2016 7:01 am

Ek sal ook kyk na die 2,4. Ek wil nie outo he nie (glad nie), did dalk hoekom ek die 2,4 like.

Hulle bring hom nou uit met wat hulle noem die "wide body" - hy het klaar mags ens ens op.

Die 2,4 DC 4X4 is amper R 100 000 goedkoper as die 2,8..........baie geld. Snaaks genoeg is die verskil tussen 4x2 en 4x4 op die 2,4 baie min - ek dink minder as R 30 000.

En die 2,4 het nie daai aaklige chrome bumper van die 2,8 nie.

2,4 is ook heelwat ligter op Diesel as die 2,8.

Ek het met 'n 2,4 gery so ruk terug......RPM is lekker lag, torque is lekker, ek het hier digby 190 gesien op die speedo. Wat vir my ongelooflik was, was dat daar GEEN rattles/squeaks/niks op die grondpad was nie. Soos in NIKS. Daai Lux het stewiger gevoel op daai pad as 'n 200 Cruiser - ek is ernstig.

Ek dink die 2,4 gaan ook baie goeie herverkoop he, net so goed of dalk selfs beter as die 2,8......hy is darem by die R 100 000 goedkoper. Hy is nuut hier by die R 430 000/440 000.
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Mon Nov 07, 2016 9:39 am

Stem saam met Petri.

Brandstof verbruik is 9l/100 op die 2.4 teen 12.5L/100 op my 2.8. (en 2.4 kan beter kry)
Die 2.4 loop saam my 2.8 Auto, ek kan hom nie veg ry nie.
Die 2.4 skiet ver voor die 3.0 D-4D OOK.

Geld - teen wat Jy verloor -- Aircon op die 2.8 is Automatic -- Radio is so effens anders.(nog steeds Bluetooth) - geen Cruise Control. - Kry nie al daai Menu buttons nie (maar glo my dis niks eintlik nie)
Net in Handrat -

Personally, Off Road the 2.4 is also better, with Low down Torque and a lot more control.
New wide body and Mags -- look good.
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Mon Nov 07, 2016 9:55 am

Dankie vir die inlighting mense. My volgende koop gaan beslis die 2.4 handrat wees. Eks nie veel gepla oor auto nie.
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Thu Nov 10, 2016 5:52 pm

Cruise control is omtrent 6k as jy dit wil laat bysit.

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Sjoe, ek onthou n vriend het a klompie jare gelede op sy D4D hier by die R3300 uitgehaal vir sy cruise control.
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Fri Nov 11, 2016 6:18 am

2010 het dit my 5k gekos vir die Hilux
2013 was dit 5,5k vir die Etios
Nou het ek 6k betaal vir cruise control vir die RAV.


Dit is die prys as jy dit bybestel saam met die voertuig. Seker jy kan seker n paar rand spaar as jy dit later laat insit. Ek bestel dit maar saam, dan is daar geen issues met die waarborg nie


Dit het my al baie speed fines gespaar !! :mocking:

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Fri Nov 11, 2016 6:45 am

Ek hoor jou - die 2.4 wat ek vandag in ontvangs neem is n "wide body" demo (spaar baie) maar sonder die cruise control. Sal beslis n CC oorweeg vorenrtoe!
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GELUK !!

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Fri Nov 11, 2016 8:21 am

Geluk yota - daai Wide Body 2,4 is 'n BAIE nice 4x4!!!

.....en hy't nie 'n chrome agterbumper nie.
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The 'Wide Body' you guys are referring to.. is it the 2.4 GD-6 4x4 SRX MT?
..and the plain one then the 2.4 GD-6 4x4SR..is this correct?
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Fri Nov 18, 2016 8:51 pm

Shane, please keep us posted on your impressions......I'm particularly interested in

1) RPM in high gear at 120/130
2) KM/litre at those speeds, and town driving

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Dirka wrote:The 'Wide Body' you guys are referring to.. is it the 2.4 GD-6 4x4 SRX MT?
..and the plain one then the 2.4 GD-6 4x4SR..is this correct?
No,

AFAIK the SR spec is a mine spec - but is better specced than the SRX, sans radio. Think curtain airbags, etc.
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Fri Nov 18, 2016 10:19 pm

Thanks guys,
Will do Petri, have not done a lot of open road driving so far but what I can say it is way better than a friend's 2.2 Ranger / will keep you posted.

The SR is the plain one (ideal for Famers and Construction) and slightly more expensive because it has 7 A/bags as appose to the SRX's three.
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Sat Nov 19, 2016 4:30 am

Hi and Thanx guys for the replies!
(Congrats Shane...the new Revo is freakishly beautiful!)

I must admit...I'm bit still confused here.. :eh:

(I have the online Toy comparison, catalogue and brochure open here)
(They all speak same language)

..looking only at the 4x4 2.4 models now.

I can only see 2.
Recommended retail selling $$ difference is R6,300.

The SR..

You have ugly set of wheels and poep (plain) radio..

The SRX..

You have 265/65R17 (As opposed to 225/70R17C) tire on gorgeous looking Alloy rims.
Bluetooth and USB on improved radio setup.
Some external cosmetics.

but..

The SR (plain):

You have:
Hill Assist Control (HAC) std (SRX optional)
Active Traction Control (ATRC) std (SRX optional)
Vehicle Stability Control (VSC) std (SRX optional)
Downhill Assist Control (DAC) std (SRX optional)
Trailer Sway Control (TSC) std (SRX optional)
Curtain airbags std (SRX optional)
Side airbags (front) std (SRX optional)
Emergency Brake Signal std (SRX optional)

Huh ???

The cheaper one the SR.
All other specs the same.. (Dimensions, Capacities, Engine, Drivetrain, Interior, etc...)

Really?
Is this still correct? :blink:

http://www.toyota.co.za/ranges/hilux-do ... ifications" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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I bought the 2.4 and must say it has been an absolute gem. I previously had the 3D4D and the 2.4 in my opinion is very similar but smoother and more refined. I was fortunate enough to have the 2.8 for a week and honestly the extra money is a lot for what you get.

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:eh:
Dirka wrote:Hi and Thanx guys for the replies!
(Congrats Shane...the new Revo is freakishly beautiful!)

I must admit...I'm bit still confused here.. :eh:

(I have the online Toy comparison, catalogue and brochure open here)
(They all speak same language)

..looking only at the 4x4 2.4 models now.

I can only see 2.
Recommended retail selling $$ difference is R6,300.

The SR..

You have ugly set of wheels and poep (plain) radio..

The SRX..

You have 265/65R17 (As opposed to 225/70R17C) tire on gorgeous looking Alloy rims.
Bluetooth and USB on improved radio setup.
Some external cosmetics.

but..

The SR (plain):

You have:
Hill Assist Control (HAC) std (SRX optional)
Active Traction Control (ATRC) std (SRX optional)
Vehicle Stability Control (VSC) std (SRX optional)
Downhill Assist Control (DAC) std (SRX optional)
Trailer Sway Control (TSC) std (SRX optional)
Curtain airbags std (SRX optional)
Side airbags (front) std (SRX optional)
Emergency Brake Signal std (SRX optional)

Huh ???

The cheaper one the SR.
All other specs the same.. (Dimensions, Capacities, Engine, Drivetrain, Interior, etc...)

Really?
Is this still correct? :blink:

http://www.toyota.co.za/ranges/hilux-do ... ifications" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
........hmmm - doesn't make sense.

yota??
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Tue Nov 22, 2016 11:33 am

Dirka, I just stopped at Toyota, you're 100% correct.

Guys - is'nt the narrow body 2,4 then also a good option?? I mean, you can always get mags and tyres if it bothers you, and a nice Radio.

OK the SRX has the wide body (wheelarches are wider), and it looks DAMN nice.

But ja..........the SR with all those 4x4 " extras" as standard is also tempting. It also has 4 more airbags than the SRX, but OK that's not really gonna sway me.

Any thoughts??
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Tue Nov 22, 2016 2:18 pm

2.4 4x4 Double Cab SR -- Is a Mine spec Pickup with more safety in it-- R 462 500.00 (no radio)
2.4 4x4 Double Cab SRX -- R 468 800.00

all are wide bodies now.
most will be coming with Mags now
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all are wide bodies now.
most will be coming with Mags now


.........you SURE about that?? Then, what you're saying, is that the only differences is a Radio and mags between the SRX and SR??

CANT be guys.......???
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Just spoke to a (good) pal at TSA. The SR will NOT launch in a wide body and/or with mags.
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petri oosthuizen wrote:Just spoke to a (good) pal at TSA. The SR will NOT launch in a wide body and/or with mags.
I got the same reply when making inquiries yesterday.

So far I'm happy with the vehicle. It is surprisingly light on fuel and I enjoy the torque in traffic. Very quiet and relaxing / cant wait to take it out on a long trip and some some off road driving.
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Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:39 am

Thanx all for the clarification. :thumbup:

Just an interesting article I picked up:

http://www.wheels24.co.za/NewModels/toy ... a-20161121" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I particularly noted the following:

"Toyota SA also mentioned that it will expand its overall range of vehicles (Hiluxes and Fortuners) equipped with automatic gearboxes and that a number of new vehicles will be launched in early 2017."

..interesting.
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For many years the SRX was the "low spec" option, with the RAIDER being the one you had to have ...

I see the full spec bells and wistles RAIDER back in 2017 ...

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Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:33 am

PLEASE help me here - I'm on the verge of buying a new Hilux DC 4X4, either a 2,8 Raider or a 2,4 SRX (Manual only).

My dealer pal invited me to drive a 2,4 SR to Reitz a while back, and return with a 2,8. The 2,4 was a demo with about 7000km on, the 2,8 was brand new.

The 2,8 is great...nice features etc etc, and it feels a little bit more "driveable" on the open road.

BUT - the 2,4 feels more torqueier from pullaway.

?? Or is it just my imagination??

I love the 2,8's features, but yes - I need to sort of justify that +- R 80 000 price difference. I'm paying cash, and have a sort of a "price allergy".......the SRX is R 428000, the Raider 2,8 is R 507000. That R 80 000 extra is a lot to fork out extra........especially since the 2 engines are VERY VERY similar WRT power and torque.

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I just returned from a trip to Mossel bay with my 2.4 GD-6 SRX 4x4 D/C and got an average fuel economy of 7.8 Lt/100km! My friends down there could not believe it when I showed them that I got 7.2lt/100km on the trip down there. I must admit, I'm a very "economical" driver and constantly tried to save fuel in my driving style. Nevertheless, I would not be happy with myself forking out that extra money for a car that is so similar yet so much more thirstier! In my reasoning, it is not worth the extra money and the 2.8 cannot run away from me either!
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Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:27 am

THANKS yota..........you're busy saving me 80k here.

Apparently the SR also now comes with the Wide Body - that could also be a nice option. The SR "Mine Spec" has 7 airbags, VSC, Tailer Sway Control and Hill Ascent Control "over and above" the SRX. But still steel wheels and no radio.

I can go choose my own radio, and yes - those steelies could actually look cool if you maybe powdercoat them a dark grey (a la split rim grey), chuck that rear bumper and put a nice bumper bar at the back, and a nice alu canopy. Sort of an "overlander look", if you may. With lekker tyres on those 225 steelies.

I drove a 2,4 again yesterday - VERY VERY VERY nice vehicle that!!
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Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:43 am

Here is exaccetly the diffs between the SR and SRX 2,4:

SRX has side steps, mags, bigger tyres and a fish finder.

SR has none of the above, but "over and above"the SRX has Hill Assist Control, 7 airbags, Traction Control, Trailer Sway Control, Vehicle Stability Control and Downhill Assist Control.

SR is about R 6000 cheaper than the SRX.

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Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:23 pm

petri oosthuizen wrote:Here is exaccetly the diffs between the SR and SRX 2,4:

SRX has:
side steps, ... too flimsy for proper rock sliders ...
mags, bigger tyres and .... the R6k will go some way towards rims and tires of your choice ..
a fish finder. ... uhm ja ... take there is a double din slot, go get your radio of your choice.

SR has none of the above, but "over and above"the SRX has Hill Assist Control, 7 airbags, Traction Control, Trailer Sway Control, Vehicle Stability Control and Downhill Assist Control.

SR is about R 6000 cheaper than the SRX.

Eks nou so deurmekaar ek loop koop sommer 'n Ford :cooldude: :lol:

The extras of the SRX is cosmetic .... and the 6k will go some way towards a nice radio ...

The extras of the SR - SAFETY .. that is why it is the MINE SPEC ... mines dont care for radios, but safety is not an option.


if I was buying - SR !!!!

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A Ford? no please, they just do not last seriously! LOL. I'm not sure if the SR has the same torque (400 Nm) and a 6 speed like the SRX. If it does I'd say, it is a serious contender, 4 sure. :thumbup:
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My vote is for the SR. :thumbup:
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Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:15 pm

Thanks guys for all the advise.

I pulled the trigger on a 2,8 Manual......at a VERY good price.

Although, must say, it was very very VERY nearly the 2,4 Diesel. GREAT engines!!!

But yes, I need this primarily as a business tool, meaning LOTS of tarmac driving, also in the dark. The 2,8 just makes more sense at this stage......it has this little thingies over and above the 2,4 that I will really need/enjoy over 100 000 km. (this is the tool for ME).
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Petri GENIET daai 2,8 !!!


PS - vertel gerus vir die klas wat die 2,8 ekstra het .... behoort seker die radio en cruise control en daai lekker goed te hê .... daai dinge wat dit lekker maak op die langpad .....

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Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:14 pm

Chris - ek het BAIE amper die SR 2,4 gekoop. Hy het baie safety en 4x4 features. Maar ja - hy is kaalgat so R 84000 cheaper as die Raider. As ek mags (15000) en tyres (12000) en radio (8000) ekstra insit, is daai R 80 000 verskil sommer skielik net R 49000.

Vir daai R 49000 verskil kry jy darem 20kW meer, 20 nM meer, speed control, upgraded radio en speakers, upgraded Trip Computer, Reverse Camera, iMT ratkas, upgraded interior, fog lights, Wide Body shape (die SR is Narrow Body), 2/3 folding rear bench, ekstra 12v plug, Torque is vanaf 1400 - 2500 (vs 1600 - 2000 op die 2,4) Cooler Box, en nog so paar ander goete wat ek nie eens van weet nie.

Ek dink, so goed as wat daai 2,4 is, is die 2,8 Raider net overall meer "driveable".

Die 2,8 het HEELWAT meer feautures as die 2,4 SRX........7 airbags, VSC, ATC, HAC, HDC, iMT, TSC, ens ens.

So...........aan die einde van die dag koop mens maar wat vir JOU gaan werk. Ek gaan baie langpad kilo's doen, van dit in die aand. Ook bietjie grondpad huis toe en terug, redelik Lesotho trips, bietjie boot sleep.

Ek wil ook meer in die karavaan/offroad trailer ding ingaan, so ek dink die 2,8 gaan oor 'n tydperk van so 100 000 km vir my mooi werk.

Dis ook nie asof ek NIKS van daai R 80 000 eendag gaan terugkry nie. Miskien die helfte of meer.
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Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:19 pm

Terloops.........my trokkie is oppad van Witbank af. Voorraad is BAIE skaars, fabriek is nog toe.

So.......al julle Witbankers - los uit daai wit Raider Manual!!!! :cooldude:
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Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:27 pm

En jy kry nooit die "ekstras" se geld terug nie. Koop liewer die model wat reeds die funksie HET ... wanneer jy verkoop is jou "cost-of-ownership" beter.


In 2010 moes ek besluit oor R46k tussen die SRX en die Raider ..... meer as een keer spyt gewees ek het nie oe toegemaak en die Raider gevat nie.

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Thu Jan 12, 2017 10:24 am

Die SR is BAIE nice Chris........hy's daai "4x4 only" tipe no frills DC. Die SRX is great waarde vir geld.Maar die Raider is veiliger as die SRX, en hy het KLOMP klein klein goedjies wat vir my gaan werk.
Daai rear seat wat bv 60/40 split............groot issue vir my. Want ek bere my "plaas goed" - flits en verkyker - onder die een seat se gat, en my "werkgoed"- GPS - onder die ander seat. Ek hoef dus net een seat op 'n slag op te tel, nie die hele solid bench nie. KLEIN issue, ek weet...........maar slaan daai rear seat op en af elke dag vir 4 jaar, en die issue is bietjie groter.
Die Raider se radio is ook net baie nicer. Ek like my music KWAAI as ek langpad ry vir werk. Ek kan ook my klomp DVD's speel op daai radio. So........nice radio is vir my nogal NB.
Speedocruise BAIE nice vir my.
Al daai klein goedjies - iets kan vir my 'n major issue wees, en jy gaan dit dalk nie eens raaksien nie.

My lorrie is oppad van Witbank af - gaan seker laatmiddag hier wees. Sal hom so Saterdag loop haal. Ek wil net eers 'n stuk shade net bo in die afdak oppie plaas se ceiling vasmaak - die voeltjies gaan op die bakkie skyt.
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Thu Jan 12, 2017 10:47 am

Ek verstaan wat jy sê


Vir jare was n radio n radio .... maar nou wat die goed met jou foon praat en duisend ander dinge kan doen maak dit wel n verskil. Of sal ek dit so stel - n beter item maak die lewe net soveel makliker.


Ek het die intree vlak RAV. Die radio be-indruk my !!!! Druk die "Home" knop, links onder is 4 pre-programmed foon nommers, raak aan een en die oproep is gemaak. Letterlik makliker om te bel as om die radio stasie te verander. Vir iemand wat baie op die pad is maak die klein dinge die lewe net soveel makliker EN veiliger.


cruise control ... wel tot my Etios is bestel met cruise control. DIT is die een gadget wat ek die meeste gebruik. Ek wil nie my dag spandeer om n speedo dop te hou nie ... en na n lang trip is dit net onmoontlik om op 60 te bly in die klein dorpies .... daai cruise control het homself lankal afbetaal deur boetes te spaar.



SATERDAG ... hoeveel slapies is dit nog ? Jy het seker al die garage reggepak en mooi uitgevee ..... hehehe .... GENIET daai wa !!

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Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:13 am

Die fadamilie weet nog nie Chris. Ek het so half vir die Lang Blond genoem ek wil vir haar kyk vir 'n nuwe Kombi.......maar ek sal ook hou van 'n nuwe ryding.
Sy kap my toe "ag Bokkie jy werk hard, ek soek glad nie ander Kombi nie, bederf jouself". :dance1:
So.....die Lang Blond en ons nageslag is lekker. Sy gaan ook WEER maak of sy my glo as ek vir haar se dit was 'n "bargain, ek konnie nee se nie". :surrender:
My laaities Sev en Jomar vermoed iets.......hulle meen nogals ewe windgat hulle kan nou met die DC gaan jakkalse roep "dan hoef ons nie die 223 op die Cruiser se dash te sit nie". Not gonna happen.
Ek moet net eers daai shade net gaan vasmaak dat die voeltjies nie op die bakkie skyt nie. En 'n rol swart sakke gaan koop wat ek op die seats sit totdat die Escape covers kom. NIEMAND gaan OOIT op die "bare seats" sit nie. Eks nogal 'n kwaai pyn innie gat met my eie karre. Te erg, ek weet. :naah:
Die ou by Toyota weet ook - jy haal nie plastiek van die seats af as jy hom PD nie. Ek vat hom NET so, daai plastiek bly op.
Regte ou pyn innie gat. Maar andersins 'n vreeslik oulike geaardheid :cooldude:
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Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:49 am

Met die RAV het ek ook GOU seat covers opgesit.

Wel elke voertuig kry gou seatcovers.

Ou handdoek agter in die boot ...


en volgende is behoorlike rubber matte. Vir die RAV het ek die proper Toyota matte bestel. BAIE happy met dit !!


Ek hou daarvan om my voertuie gereeld af te spuit. Laat dit behoorlik was soos nodig. Nou met die water beperkinge is dit hartseer om daai laag stof op die kar te sien .... Tot my vrou vra dan laas week wanneer gaan ek die rygoed afspuit ! Het toe probeer met n klein emmer en die KArcher .... werk, maar die klein emmer raak e gou leeg. Het nou al die parte bymekaar. Gaan n jig maak met n "emmer" en n Karcher dat ek die kar kan afspuit .... En so gaan laai ons die tuinman af by sy huis - sover ons ry is die krane oop, mense was karre, en strome water loop oor die pad - terwyl ons betalende manne nie ons karre mag was nie.

Skuus nou heel van die punt af, maar JA dit krap nou lekker aan my gat .... ons spandeer duisend aan reen water tenks, ry met vuil karre, en die res mors soos altyd ....

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