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Hi All...

Just an FYI... Telkom did some SAT3 cable repairs/upgrades in the early hours of this morning... something went wrong at around 8am... the SAT3 cable is Telkom international internet access cable... therefore the forum speed is adversely affected... notice from Hetzner:

Network Degradation (International SAT3)

* Status: Attending
* Type: Network Degradation
* Start Date: 2010-02-02 08:10:00
* Resolved Date: TBA
* Point of impact: International SAT3
* Symptoms experienced: Most South African internet users will experience difficulty connecting to international hosting services.
* Cause of problem: Degraded cable
* Estimated time of repair: 17:00:00
* Additional information: Following the maintenance on the SAT3 cable this morning, Telkom SA have reported degradation of this service. Update: In an effort to bypass issues on the Telkom SAT3 link, MTN Business is rerouting all international traffic via SEACOM - intermittent connectivity may result from the increased activity on this line.
* Attending: Telkom SA Engineers

Those of you using a service provider that utilises the new under sea cable will hopefully be experiencing no interuptions!

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Ok seems like Telkom have resolved the gremlins... connection is stable, but latency is still pretty high:

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Pinging hilux4x4.co.za [65.98.75.110] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 65.98.75.110: bytes=32 time=401ms TTL=50
Reply from 65.98.75.110: bytes=32 time=388ms TTL=50
Reply from 65.98.75.110: bytes=32 time=418ms TTL=50
Reply from 65.98.75.110: bytes=32 time=401ms TTL=50
Reply from 65.98.75.110: bytes=32 time=380ms TTL=50
Reply from 65.98.75.110: bytes=32 time=401ms TTL=50
Reply from 65.98.75.110: bytes=32 time=392ms TTL=50
Reply from 65.98.75.110: bytes=32 time=394ms TTL=50
Reply from 65.98.75.110: bytes=32 time=404ms TTL=50
Reply from 65.98.75.110: bytes=32 time=395ms TTL=50
Reply from 65.98.75.110: bytes=32 time=400ms TTL=50
Reply from 65.98.75.110: bytes=32 time=399ms TTL=50
Reply from 65.98.75.110: bytes=32 time=402ms TTL=50
Reply from 65.98.75.110: bytes=32 time=396ms TTL=50

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Bretton must be your router - restart it My ADSL have been lighting fast all day.
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Thanks Bretton. I did not feel a difference this morning as we are using Neotel at the office as those guys at Telkom don't know what they are doing :twisted: :twisted:
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Ours is up and down all the time :thumbdown:

Get this ping but for some reason I can still access the forum (the Hilux Force is with me) :shock:

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Pinging hilux4x4.co.za [65.98.75.110] with 32 bytes of data:

Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

Ping statistics for 65.98.75.110:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),
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And you think Neotel does Cas?? :wth: :shock:
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Thanks Bretton, I was wondering what was going on this morning, my ADSL has been 4Y slow :shock:

Why do the words Telkom, Network and Failure sit so nicely together :think: :problem:
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I think the interuption affected the CT based inter connect only!
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Yep definitely affected my internet connection. I could only get to IOL and News24. :shock: :shock:
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RustyRod wrote:And you think Neotel does Cas?? :wth: :shock:
Don't think they do but at least the Seacom cable remains stable :roll: :roll:
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Yup, I was down and out, there was an international issue according to my ISP, I couldn't load squat tho, seems good now tho :think:
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Hannes.S wrote:Ours is up and down all the time :thumbdown:

Get this ping but for some reason I can still access the forum (the Hilux Force is with me) :shock:

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
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Pinging hilux4x4.co.za [65.98.75.110] with 32 bytes of data:

Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

Ping statistics for 65.98.75.110:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),
Hannes many ISP's may disregard IMP traffic when under load or put it in the lowest class with high probability of packet drops. If a link is congested and everyone starts loading ICMP onto the link it only aggravate the problem.
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Hannes.S wrote:Get this ping...........
RustyRod wrote:Pinging hilux4x4
Set the timing or up the octane rating! :twisted:
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BenHur wrote: Hannes many ISP's may disregard IMP traffic when under load or put it in the lowest class with high probability of packet drops. If a link is congested and everyone starts loading ICMP onto the link it only aggravate the problem.
ISP's , IMP , ICMP.......BLeh Now I have a aggravated problem figuring out what the heck you on about :wth:
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ping -c 10 65.98.75.110
PING 65.98.75.110 (65.98.75.110) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 65.98.75.110: icmp_seq=1 ttl=46 time=519 ms
64 bytes from 65.98.75.110: icmp_seq=2 ttl=46 time=517 ms
64 bytes from 65.98.75.110: icmp_seq=3 ttl=46 time=506 ms
64 bytes from 65.98.75.110: icmp_seq=4 ttl=46 time=516 ms
64 bytes from 65.98.75.110: icmp_seq=5 ttl=46 time=549 ms
64 bytes from 65.98.75.110: icmp_seq=7 ttl=46 time=545 ms
64 bytes from 65.98.75.110: icmp_seq=8 ttl=46 time=527 ms
64 bytes from 65.98.75.110: icmp_seq=9 ttl=46 time=501 ms
64 bytes from 65.98.75.110: icmp_seq=10 ttl=46 time=605 ms

--- 65.98.75.110 ping statistics ---
10 packets transmitted, 9 received, 10% packet loss, time 8994ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 501.824/532.180/605.024/29.771 ms
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Re: Forum Slow - Telkom Network Failure - SAT3

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My forum world is approx. 100ms faster than yours... hee hee... you're a little slow Marty! Gloria!

Pinging 65.98.75.110 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 65.98.75.110: bytes=32 time=398ms TTL=50
Reply from 65.98.75.110: bytes=32 time=400ms TTL=50
Reply from 65.98.75.110: bytes=32 time=399ms TTL=50
Reply from 65.98.75.110: bytes=32 time=401ms TTL=50
Reply from 65.98.75.110: bytes=32 time=402ms TTL=50
Reply from 65.98.75.110: bytes=32 time=401ms TTL=50
Reply from 65.98.75.110: bytes=32 time=399ms TTL=50
Reply from 65.98.75.110: bytes=32 time=400ms TTL=50
Reply from 65.98.75.110: bytes=32 time=401ms TTL=50
Reply from 65.98.75.110: bytes=32 time=398ms TTL=50
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That's coming via Europe. (OBS)

If I connect via the other link (hosted by IS)

ping -c 10 65.98.75.110
PING 65.98.75.110 (65.98.75.110) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 65.98.75.110: icmp_seq=0 ttl=52 time=341 ms
64 bytes from 65.98.75.110: icmp_seq=1 ttl=52 time=336 ms
64 bytes from 65.98.75.110: icmp_seq=2 ttl=52 time=336 ms
64 bytes from 65.98.75.110: icmp_seq=3 ttl=52 time=337 ms
64 bytes from 65.98.75.110: icmp_seq=4 ttl=52 time=339 ms
64 bytes from 65.98.75.110: icmp_seq=6 ttl=52 time=337 ms
64 bytes from 65.98.75.110: icmp_seq=7 ttl=52 time=337 ms
64 bytes from 65.98.75.110: icmp_seq=8 ttl=52 time=334 ms

--- 65.98.75.110 ping statistics ---
10 packets transmitted, 8 received, 20% packet loss, time 9009ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 334.765/337.566/341.915/2.002 ms, pipe 2
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By international standards our latency is aweful!
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Well I can't complain cause I got a few links where I can bounce between.

But yes, I agree
I want to see speeds something like this... :lol:

ping -c 10 localhost
PING yuna (127.0.0.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from yuna (127.0.0.1): icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.048 ms
64 bytes from yuna (127.0.0.1): icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.042 ms
64 bytes from yuna (127.0.0.1): icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=0.039 ms
64 bytes from yuna (127.0.0.1): icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=0.039 ms
64 bytes from yuna (127.0.0.1): icmp_seq=5 ttl=64 time=0.039 ms
64 bytes from yuna (127.0.0.1): icmp_seq=6 ttl=64 time=0.039 ms
64 bytes from yuna (127.0.0.1): icmp_seq=7 ttl=64 time=0.038 ms
64 bytes from yuna (127.0.0.1): icmp_seq=8 ttl=64 time=0.037 ms
64 bytes from yuna (127.0.0.1): icmp_seq=9 ttl=64 time=0.038 ms
64 bytes from yuna (127.0.0.1): icmp_seq=10 ttl=64 time=0.037 ms

--- yuna ping statistics ---
10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9001ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.037/0.039/0.048/0.007 ms
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Hannes.S wrote:
BenHur wrote: Hannes many ISP's may disregard IMP traffic when under load or put it in the lowest class with high probability of packet drops. If a link is congested and everyone starts loading ICMP onto the link it only aggravate the problem.
ISP's , IMP , ICMP.......BLeh Now I have a aggravated problem figuring out what the heck you on about :wth:
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ICMP iaw pings is small packets of date that can be detected by an ISP because of the port it uses. If you do not buy a Tier-1 type ISP connection but rather a Tier-2 like most shaped broadband connections your ISP will give priority to certain types of traffic like SMTP, HTTP, FTP and less priority to traffic like ICMP thus those packets will be dropped first if the buffer at the ISP gets full.
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how do I do a ping?
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RustyRod wrote:By international standards our latency is aweful!
Brets

In general there is a small little problem why we in SA experience larger latencies then the oukies in Europe and that is a simply because we are generally a small stone throw away from them.

For example the SAT 3 system is 14 350km km long, and since no one is capable of building single fibres that long or transmission systems that will propagate via a fibre that long there is quite a few repeaters in between us and Europe. Every piece of transmission equipment adds a small amount of latency to the link, so if you can convince everyone in the world to duplicate the internet backbone in the southern tip of Africa then your latency will be a thing of the past, else you must move there if you are not happy with the latency.

Riaan please dont you are only adding to the problem :shock:

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Start - run type CMD

in the dos box that open, type ping www.hilux4x4.co.za

or better still type tracert www.hilux4x4.co.za
then type (removed by F_D) not really :ugeek: :ugeek:
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BenHur wrote:
RustyRod wrote:By international standards our latency is aweful!
Brets

In general there is a small little problem why we in SA experience larger latencies then the oukies in Europe and that is a simply because we are generally a small stone throw away from them.

For example the SAT 3 system is 14 350km km long, and since no one is capable of building single fibres that long or transmission systems that will propagate via a fibre that long there is quite a few repeaters in between us and Europe. Every piece of transmission equipment adds a small amount of latency to the link, so if you can convince everyone in the world to duplicate the internet backbone in the southern tip of Africa then your latency will be a thing of the past, else you must move there if you are not happy with the latency.

Riaan please dont you are only adding to the problem :shock:

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Start - run type CMD

in the dos box that open, type ping www.hilux4x4.co.za

or better still type tracert www.hilux4x4.co.za
then type (Removed by F_D)

:o: :o: :o:

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If that command still work from a command prompt in windows its time to upgrade your operating system in anycase, but ja I made a joke don't try this at home folks.
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ha ha, ek is dom, maar darem nie onnosel nie.. ek het al daai format storie probeer, maar het nie gewerk nie. Kon net met n win setup disk format voor installation
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Just another observation...

Britney check this out
CMD wrote: Tracing route to hilux4x4.co.za [65.98.75.110]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 41 ms 39 ms 39 ms dsl-244-0-01.telkomadsl.co.za [41.244.0.1]
2 40 ms 43 ms 42 ms 196.43.33.209
3 120 ms 42 ms 119 ms 196.43.33.209
4 43 ms 45 ms 44 ms 196.43.10.130
5 43 ms 41 ms 42 ms 196.43.33.5

6 331 ms 329 ms 331 ms lon-ip-dir-telecity-gig-4-0-1025.telkom-ipnet.co.za [196.43.18.121]
7 430 ms 418 ms 402 ms ldn-tch-i1-link.telia.net [213.155.141.153]
8 429 ms 428 ms 426 ms ldn-b5-link.telia.net [80.91.250.209]
9 446 ms 449 ms 440 ms ldn-bb1-link.telia.net [80.91.247.91]
10 349 ms 346 ms 346 ms nyk-bb1-pos0-2-0.telia.net [213.248.65.90]
11 380 ms 378 ms 367 ms nyk-b2-link.telia.net [80.91.247.198]
12 388 ms 389 ms 381 ms fortress-120799-nyk-b2.c.telia.net [213.248.83.106]
13 362 ms 369 ms 379 ms node7.fitx.us.transnexis.net [65.98.75.3]
14 394 ms 384 ms 360 ms thebe.plesk-server.com [65.98.75.110]
Check the length of the local SAIX hops vs the SA to Europe hop vs the European and US hops. Are we really that slow or is the bulk of the latency experienced once we hit Europe
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BenHur wrote:
Hannes

ICMP iaw pings is small packets of date that can be detected by an ISP because of the port it uses. If you do not buy a Tier-1 type ISP connection but rather a Tier-2 like most shaped broadband connections your ISP will give priority to certain types of traffic like SMTP, HTTP, FTP and less priority to traffic like ICMP thus those packets will be dropped first if the buffer at the ISP gets full.
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From the ox to the jacket.
i have changed my ISP. I now use a unlimited account from DigiChilli.The cost is R500, but you get 2x logins.
Me and a buddy is sharing it.So i pay R250 for an unlimited ADSL account :thumbup:
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