KZTE vs 2,7 petrol

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sasafaris
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Tue Mar 06, 2018 11:59 am

I am at the stage of contemplating moving on to another vehicle. My old faithful Gunga Din, a kzte DC 4x4 is 18 years old and 550000 km tired. Still goes fine, but little niggly things.
The vehicle has never been driven hard, but has been driven in hard places.
I was looking at getting a slightly newer 2004 model, but notice that these vehicles have achieved cult status and compared to an equivalent year model/mileage 2.7 petrol there is a huge difference in prices.
Bearing this in mind, and the fact that I do not anticipate more than a couple more years wandering around the sub continent, and will then use it for purely recreational purposes, should I look seriously at the petrol version?
I am a dyed in the wool KZTE guy, but I am open to comments either way. I wonder if the huge discrepancy in price is validated.

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Tue Mar 06, 2018 5:10 pm

I would stay with your KZTE and rather spend some of the funds you would have used to replace it, on a bit of TLC and take care of the "niggles".
Diesel is more readily available than petrol in the northerly states, you go further on it so more economical than petrol (the 3RZ is a guzzler) and your vehicle is already set up for what you do. :winkx:
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Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:37 pm

With your current vehicle you know what have - niggles and all!

If the body + chassis still looks good then the rest can be sorted over time at a financially convenient pace...

Rebuild the motor - 30k
Redo all suspension rubbers + bits - 10k?

Replace suspension?

Interior + seats?

I would stick with kz as well...

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Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:48 pm

Stay with the KZ. They are slowly appreciating in value. Whatever you spend now in sorting the niggles, you could recover (in part) later.
If you still have blank pages in your passport, it's probably time for a road trip.

sasafaris
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Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:16 am

Thanks for the input.
I am currently having the engine refurbished.
For 550 thousand KM remarkably little wear. Crankshaft needs slight attention, pistons good with rings reasonably ok but being replaced.
Full new set of bearings, big end and mains, oil pump and new seals and gaskets stem to stern.
Head ok but replacing pre combustion chambers and valve guides.
New oil pump and engine mounting rubbers and one bolt which had the nut missing for who knows how long.
Next new shackle bushes, then aircon to be sorted out and then hopefully all good for the next plenty thousand km.

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Thu Apr 19, 2018 1:21 pm

Wise choice IMO. :winkx:
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Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:17 am

sasafaris wrote:Thanks for the input.
I am currently having the engine refurbished.
For 550 thousand KM remarkably little wear. Crankshaft needs slight attention, pistons good with rings reasonably ok but being replaced.
Full new set of bearings, big end and mains, oil pump and new seals and gaskets stem to stern.
Head ok but replacing pre combustion chambers and valve guides.
New oil pump and engine mounting rubbers and one bolt which had the nut missing for who knows how long.
Next new shackle bushes, then aircon to be sorted out and then hopefully all good for the next plenty thousand km.
If you can, consider replacing the head. 550k km is a good innings and they are notoriously sensitive....

Are you doing water pump, oil pump and radiator as well?

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Baasvark
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Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:19 am

Baasvark wrote:
sasafaris wrote:Thanks for the input.
I am currently having the engine refurbished.
For 550 thousand KM remarkably little wear. Crankshaft needs slight attention, pistons good with rings reasonably ok but being replaced.
Full new set of bearings, big end and mains, oil pump and new seals and gaskets stem to stern.
Head ok but replacing pre combustion chambers and valve guides.
New oil pump and engine mounting rubbers and one bolt which had the nut missing for who knows how long.
Next new shackle bushes, then aircon to be sorted out and then hopefully all good for the next plenty thousand km.
If you can, consider replacing the head. 550k km is a good innings and they are notoriously sensitive....

Are you doing water pump, oil pump and radiator as well?

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Ok I see you are doing the oil pump.

Might be worth considering the rest while it's out...

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