Fortuner Analysis by TSA
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Fortuner Analysis by TSA
TSA has replied to the Fortuner tests that were conducted by members of the Community forum last weekend.
http://www.4x4community.com/forum/showt ... hp?t=23512
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http://www.4x4community.com/forum/showt ... hp?t=23512
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Thanks for providing us with the thread to the 4x4community forum since not much has been happening there over the past 3 days. Bottom line seems to me from having read through the response of TSA that there is nothing particularly wrong with the tyres nor with the suspension other than the car should be used with caution on "unpaved" roads?
I am a Hilux owner, a 1986 4x4 DC model (very proud of it) and also a new Fortuner owner. No problems with the Fortuner so far - still on all 4 wheels but I am concerned that all of this (which of course may all be hype) has caused a lot of damage to the reputation of Fortuners (and of Toyota). What can I say?
I am a Hilux owner, a 1986 4x4 DC model (very proud of it) and also a new Fortuner owner. No problems with the Fortuner so far - still on all 4 wheels but I am concerned that all of this (which of course may all be hype) has caused a lot of damage to the reputation of Fortuners (and of Toyota). What can I say?
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Hugo,
I understand your feelings about the '86 Hilux, Bulldog is an '87 model and is still being run in!
Please post some pics of your Hilux in the "Member's Rides" section, I love looking at pics of Hilux's, esp. the imported ones :)
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I understand your feelings about the '86 Hilux, Bulldog is an '87 model and is still being run in!
Please post some pics of your Hilux in the "Member's Rides" section, I love looking at pics of Hilux's, esp. the imported ones :)
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[Please post some pics of your Hilux in the "Member's Rides" section, I love looking at pics of Hilux's, esp. the imported ones :)
Hi Eric
Can you please give me the steps in order to get pics into the message body? I have tried copy and paste but it does not work.
Thanks
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Hi Eric
Can you please give me the steps in order to get pics into the message body? I have tried copy and paste but it does not work.
Thanks
Hugo
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Hugo,
Bennie has explained it better than I could ever hope to here:
viewtopic.php?f=21&t=295&p=1892#p1892
Give a shout if I could help anywhere.
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Bennie has explained it better than I could ever hope to here:
viewtopic.php?f=21&t=295&p=1892#p1892
Give a shout if I could help anywhere.
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Thanks Eric for your help - I've Posted.
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I have to say that I am shocked at TSA's response to the Fortuners handling problems. I travelled quite a few km's on gravel these past 2 weekends on the way to and from the Rebel 4x4 Rock Crawl and was gobsmacked at the instability of the rear. I was travelling on very good dirt roads and could not go over 80km/h or the rear started swaying excessively. In any other car I would have no qualms doing a 100km/h in the same conditions, but the Fortuner was just too unstable. And even at 80km/h it was not an easy drive - I had to concentrate very hard as the rear just "snaps" loose without any warning. When the road detoriates just a bit the speed drops to between 40 and 60km/h. I would have done the same roads in my Jeep at much higher speeds - safer! (And I still hate that car )
I learned to drive on gravel roads and consider myself an "above average" driver in these circumstances. I have pushed the limits and rolled cars and have learned to judge these surfaces well over the years, so I'm not just complaining for the sake of it. I think I should rather fit 22" chrome rims with low profile road tires, as it seems this is what Toyota designed the Fortuners for and at least it will be safer... :evil: :evil: :evil:
I learned to drive on gravel roads and consider myself an "above average" driver in these circumstances. I have pushed the limits and rolled cars and have learned to judge these surfaces well over the years, so I'm not just complaining for the sake of it. I think I should rather fit 22" chrome rims with low profile road tires, as it seems this is what Toyota designed the Fortuners for and at least it will be safer... :evil: :evil: :evil:
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Is dit RERIG so erg Johan??
Ek dog die ouens kla somme net vir somme
Wat gebeur as ander bande gebruik word / of aftermarket skokbrekers?
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En ek laaik nogal die Fortuner.
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Ek se jou Blomma, soos jy daai klip gefight het, het ek die grondpad gefight! Dis plain K @ K! :evil: Ek weet nie van ander bande en skokbrekers nie, maar ek gaan baie gou uitvind (moet net eers 'n Luxie in Krugersdorp klaarmaak... )
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Wel hulle beter daai outjie gou uitsort want ek wil ook ene aanskaf as hulle net eers bietjie ouer word (minder kos )
Wel ek moet verder gaan en se toyota in Rustenburg het die naweek vir Lucas d4d geleen
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Wel ek moet verder gaan en se toyota in Rustenburg het die naweek vir Lucas d4d geleen
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Blom, van die ouens wat ander tyres en suspensies op hulle Fortuners gesit het, reken die probleem is opgelos.
Het julle Toyota se belaglike verslag gelees?
Het julle Toyota se belaglike verslag gelees?
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How about this, taken i n Luanda on 7 Sep 08. Ek sou Luanda herdoop na Lucruisa of so iets, BAIE 4x4's hier, veral cruisers!mwhugovr wrote:[Please post some pics of your Hilux in the "Member's Rides" section, I love looking at pics of Hilux's, esp. the imported ones :)
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Can you please give me the steps in order to get pics into the message body? I have tried copy and paste but it does not work.
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Ek is bly ek het my bestelling vir die Fortuner gekanseleer, daar is geen ding slegter as om R300duisend + te betaal vir 'n nuwe voertuig nie en uit te vind daar is integrale foute wat nog duisende rande se modifikasies nodig het om 'reg' te wees nie - en te weet almal weet jy het 'n kat in die sak gekoop... :evil: :evil: :evil:ToyX4 wrote:Blom, van die ouens wat ander tyres en suspensies op hulle Fortuners gesit het, reken die probleem is opgelos.
Het julle Toyota se belaglike verslag gelees?
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JBurger wrote: How about this, taken i n Luanda on 7 Sep 08. Ek sou Luanda herdoop na Lucruisa of so iets, BAIE 4x4's hier, veral cruisers!
American influence can sometimes be an extremely ugly thing. What looks like basically a good Toyota truck now has something resembling a Mercedes-Benz grill slapped onto it. Ugly! :evil:
But interesting nonetheless to see what other Toy's look like, even if the Yanks ruin them.
JB, I take it you're in Angola at the moment? LHD or RHD vehicles there?
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Eric, this is left hand drive country although the odd rhd is seen from time to time, surely all the way from SA! :evil: :evil:JB, I take it you're in Angola at the moment? LHD or RHD vehicles there?
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fortuner padhou probleme? ek het sopas lugkussings van air spring supply geinstaleer in n fortuner wat sopas reggemaak is nadat hy in n ongeluk betrokke was terwyl hy n woonwa gesleep het .ek het die voertuig eers getoets toe die instalasie gedoen en weer getoets nadat ek die kussings 2.5bar gepomp het. een groot verbetering .fortuner gaan nou met woonwa weskus toe getoets word
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Ek het ook eers in n Tuner belanggestel,omdat dit heelwat goedkoper as n Prado is,maar daar was net teveel neg kommentaar oor die Tuner se padhou vermoe.TSA het blykbaar die probleem ontrafel,en dit blyk die moer wat die stuurwiel vashou te wees.
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Hentey, ek weet nie so lekker nie, daar is klomp moere watse threads nie meer so lekker issie.
Ek ry toevallig agter een net twee dae terug, en op a "service" pad wat af ry na een van ons bou plekke, waar ek "free wheel" in derde, ry die Tuner so drift style voor my teen 30km/h teen kompressie.... Toe ek die man vra, toe vertel hy my hy ry die ding nooit van teer af nie, want jy kan hom nie beheer nie. Hy sê as hy moet grond pad ry die dag, dan klim hy maar die GWM werk toe....Gelukkig is die pad nie meer as half kilo lank nie, en hy sê hy kan dit nog kruip op sulke kort afstande.
Dis hartseer. want die Tuner is glad nie sleg as jy hom obstacles laat ry nie. Dit lyk my ook dis seker maar iets soos 1% van mense wat probleem het. Die algemene publiek wat nie probleem het nie, lyk my probeer die negatiewe gevalle, nes TSA, afsmeer op die drywer.
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Ek ry toevallig agter een net twee dae terug, en op a "service" pad wat af ry na een van ons bou plekke, waar ek "free wheel" in derde, ry die Tuner so drift style voor my teen 30km/h teen kompressie.... Toe ek die man vra, toe vertel hy my hy ry die ding nooit van teer af nie, want jy kan hom nie beheer nie. Hy sê as hy moet grond pad ry die dag, dan klim hy maar die GWM werk toe....Gelukkig is die pad nie meer as half kilo lank nie, en hy sê hy kan dit nog kruip op sulke kort afstande.
Dis hartseer. want die Tuner is glad nie sleg as jy hom obstacles laat ry nie. Dit lyk my ook dis seker maar iets soos 1% van mense wat probleem het. Die algemene publiek wat nie probleem het nie, lyk my probeer die negatiewe gevalle, nes TSA, afsmeer op die drywer.
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Ek weet regtig nie wat die issue is met julle nie, ek ry al drie jaar my 4.0L V6 Fortuner en hy het nou reeds 85,000km's op waarvan 30 - 40% grondpad was en dit teen 120km/h plus en nog nooit 'n scare of enige iets gehad nie. Ek dink net die ouens wat hulle fortuners omgooi ry dalk teen 3+ bar band drukke, dan sal jy enige ding op die grond omgooi. Ek het ook 'n 4x2 3.0D4D D/C Hilux wat baie meer tail happy op die grondpad is as die fortuner en daar is niks aan my fortuner gedoen nie, slegs 'n ekstra brandstof tenk begesit vir daai lang trip, ek woon in Namibia so grondpad is 'n daaglikse ding, maar ek kan regtig nie kl oor my Fortuner nie, ek weet nie of daar 'n groot verskil tussen die 4x2 en 4x4 is nie.
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My thoughts exactly.Ek dink net die ouens wat hulle fortuners omgooi ry dalk teen 3+ bar band drukke
Paar jaar gelede het ek baie van die ou Pajeros ondersoek wat ook "sommer net omgeval het". Ek het nie met een van hulle fout gevind nie en meeste se bande was harder as 2.4 bar gepomp gewees. Almal behalwe een het op grondpaaie geval. Die een wat op 'n teerpad geval het was die drywer wat omgekyk het na agter, die pad verlaat het, geskrik het en oor korrigeer het.
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Pieter, ek kan eerlik se dat die Fortuner is baie gevoellig vir banddruk op 'n skurwe grondpad en sinkplaat grondpaaie. Ek ry gereeld met my pa se 4x4 D4D, en het gevind dat jy ry maklik teen 1.6 voor en agter as die pad sleg is, dan lock jy net die Centre diff en ry 80 - 95 km/h maklik op slegte paaie.
Omdat die voertuig se wheelbase heelwat korter (2750 mm) is as ander voertuie is die voertuig geneig om soos enige SWB maar die sinkplaat te voel en wil rond dans.
EK het al 140 gery op 'n goeie geskraapte grondpad, en ek het selfs 'n paar keer probeer om die voertuig om draaie te 4 wheel drift, maar as die band druk reg is, die pad redelik glad en die diff gelock is ry hy baie stabiel op 'n grondpad.
Ek het wel gesien dat mense is geneig om te veel krag te gebruik as hulle grondpad ry en dan verloor hulle beheer oor die voertuig as hy begin gly (of drift in my geval)..... :D :D
Omdat die voertuig se wheelbase heelwat korter (2750 mm) is as ander voertuie is die voertuig geneig om soos enige SWB maar die sinkplaat te voel en wil rond dans.
EK het al 140 gery op 'n goeie geskraapte grondpad, en ek het selfs 'n paar keer probeer om die voertuig om draaie te 4 wheel drift, maar as die band druk reg is, die pad redelik glad en die diff gelock is ry hy baie stabiel op 'n grondpad.
Ek het wel gesien dat mense is geneig om te veel krag te gebruik as hulle grondpad ry en dan verloor hulle beheer oor die voertuig as hy begin gly (of drift in my geval)..... :D :D
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