KZ-TE Calipers vs SFA Calipers

robvan87 · Post by **robvan87** » Thu May 29, 2014 8:12 am

Good day Everyone

I don't know whether this question has come up before, but what is the difference between the SFA caliper and the KZ caliper. Mine are 4pot calipers that are currently installed in the van. Will the KZ calipers and FJ discs make a big difference. Or should I just replace the booster and master with those of a KZ and the discs with those of a FJ. Or replace everything?

Looking forward to some expert knowledge!

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Bosfebok · Post by **Bosfebok** » Thu May 29, 2014 8:15 am

Hi

Having just gone through the FJ discs and KZ calipers... Whao! Huge difference! Not perfect yet, so I am doing the KZ Booster and cylinder also.

SFA's don't brake...point.. the extra volume in the KZ calipers make a world of difference...

Hope you come right.

Otto

robvan87 · Post by **robvan87** » Thu May 29, 2014 9:14 am

Thanks Otto. I can get KZ calipers locally for 850 each. Is that an acceptable price for second hand goods?

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Bosfebok · Post by **Bosfebok** » Thu May 29, 2014 9:43 am

Bought mine a year ago from MOFASA here on the forum for much cheaper....

You can also try Ultimate4x4 in pretoria...
..and also maybe Hoppy on the forum in the Cape as well...

robvan87 · Post by **robvan87** » Thu May 29, 2014 10:04 am

Thanks will shop around locally some more!

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Post by **LouisZ** » Thu May 29, 2014 9:24 pm

You can replace the brake master aswell. Will give more pressure to the brakes.

Vlak vark · Post by **Vlak vark** » Fri May 30, 2014 7:59 am

on the principles of hydraulics the small silinder is so posed to shoot against the pad so that you have a quicker response to breaking speed. Because of the small piston you have to break harder to have the same effect as two big pistons. I'm not saying that the kzte calipers won't work but I will start at the master. If the dia of the piston in the master is bigger than that of the sfa you should automatically have better brakes due to the fact that you generate more pressure onto the disk brakes.
m2cw

robvan87 · Post by **robvan87** » Fri May 30, 2014 12:21 pm

That sounds like a descent explanation. Combine that with vented discs and you should be able to stop quicker with less brake failure. Thanks

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The Legend · Post by **The Legend** » Fri May 30, 2014 5:45 pm

I still want to know if the KZ brake master just a bolt on is?

BlumTRD · Post by **BlumTRD** » Sat May 31, 2014 9:53 am

Hi Oom Dawie

Kzte and 2.7 are 2 bolt and sfa are 4 bolt .

Booster mounts are the same .

I did a swop on a lux way back used a fj80 booster and master .

Rear drums on sfa are smaller than ifs import and local diffs

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Vlak vark · Post by **Vlak vark** » Sat May 31, 2014 11:07 am

Lollie wrote:I still want to know if the KZ brake master just a bolt on is?

was nou net by die spares plek gewees. sfa en kzte se master is altwee 23.8 mm enigste een met 4 gate is cruser 80 nie seker oor die pcd nie.

The Legend · Post by **The Legend** » Sat May 31, 2014 12:46 pm

Vlak vark wrote:
Lollie wrote:I still want to know if the KZ brake master just a bolt on is?
was nou net by die spares plek gewees. sfa en kzte se master is altwee 23.8 mm enigste een met 4 gate is cruser 80 nie seker oor die pcd nie.

Nico,

So wat jy nou eintlik se is dat n KZ-TE se master nie beter remvermoe sal he as die van die SFA nie

Vlak vark · Post by **Vlak vark** » Sun Jun 01, 2014 8:29 am

Lollie wrote:
Vlak vark wrote:
Lollie wrote:I still want to know if the KZ brake master just a bolt on is?
was nou net by die spares plek gewees. sfa en kzte se master is altwee 23.8 mm enigste een met 4 gate is cruser 80 nie seker oor die pcd nie.
Nico,

So wat jy nou eintlik se is dat n KZ-TE se master nie beter remvermoe sal he as die van die SFA nie

Dawie, ek kan nie sien dat. hy sal beter briek nie. as jy die booster saam ruil of dit n verskil sal maak, dit weet ek nie. die 80 series cruser se dia in 25.2 so hy sal defnetief n beter uitwerking hê agv groter dia seels.

The Legend · Post by **The Legend** » Sun Jun 01, 2014 2:34 pm

Nico

Is die 80 series cruser sin n "just bolt on"?

robvan87 · Post by **robvan87** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 3:33 pm

Het enige iemand al 'n antwoord op lollie se vraag?

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Vlak vark · Post by **Vlak vark** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:52 am

Ek was by n paar spare plekke en dit lyk of hy net so sal pas ( die dimensies wat hulle vir my gegee het is die selfde as my master se PCD.).
alle spare plekke waar ek was vra R1060. hy lyk amper die selfde as die SFA se master met die houer agter en dan pypie wat na voor gaan.

Ps.Maak net seker oor die PCD. Ek wil eers die disk breaks agter doen, voordat ek besluit op die booster upgade.

robvan87 · Post by **robvan87** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 2:22 pm

Does anybody have an idea of what brake master this is? Stole the photo while I was at marks place 3 weeks ago. Think it might be a forum member, very interested in getting one of them for my VAN but have no idea of what the part number is. Couldn't see it!

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Post by **Mud Dog** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 5:14 pm

Looks exactly the same as the one on my SFA LTD (which I assume is standard) ..... has "1008" and "N56" stamped on the end, if that helps.

The Legend · Post by **The Legend** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 5:58 pm

Mud Dog wrote:Looks exactly the same as the one on my SFA LTD (which I assume is standard) ..... has "1008" and "N56" stamped on the end, if that helps.

The one in my sfa differs

Post by **Mud Dog** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:28 pm

It would be interesting to hear if any of the other guys with late model SFA's have the same. Further, would be good compare the specs / cylinder volume (bore and stroke) - might even amount to the same thing.

robvan87 · Post by **robvan87** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:12 pm

I am really keen on putting one of those in, will give the codes to my guy at Toyota tomorrow. The clearance between the intake bend and the brake pipes will be significantly increased!

If possible Mud Dog, can you send me your Vin number that would make it a lot easier, PM, then I will post the part number here

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The Legend · Post by **The Legend** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:46 pm

The one in my 1989 sfa

Post by **Mud Dog** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 8:14 pm

robvan87 wrote:I am really keen on putting one of those in, will give the codes to my guy at Toyota tomorrow. The clearance between the intake bend and the brake pipes will be significantly increased!

If possible Mud Dog, can you send me your Vin number that would make it a lot easier, PM, then I will post the part number here

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Sent.

robvan87 · Post by **robvan87** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 9:05 pm

Thanks Mud Dog, will post soonest

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robvan87 · Post by **robvan87** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 9:41 pm

Hi Guys, Did a parts reference on toyodiy with the gasket part number. The gasket will confirm PCD of the 4 Stud brake master... Here is what came up

08/1981-11/1985 TOYOTA CELICA AA63,TA60,SA63,RA6*,MA61 47-02: BRAKE MASTER CYLINDER
01/1982-06/1999 TOYOTA CORONA FR CT14*,RT14*,ST141,TT14*,YT140 47-02: BRAKE MASTER CYLINDER
01/1986-07/1988 TOYOTA SUPRA MA70 47-02: BRAKE MASTER CYLINDER
08/1988-04/1993 TOYOTA SUPRA MA70 47-02: BRAKE MASTER CYLINDER
08/1984-07/1988 TOYOTA CRESSIDA YX70,RX7*,GX71,MX7*,LX7* 47-02: BRAKE MASTER CYLINDER
08/1988-07/1996 TOYOTA CRESSIDA GX81,LX80,MX8*,RX8* 47-02: BRAKE MASTER CYLINDER
09/1979-06/1983 TOYOTA CROWN RS110,MS11*,LS110 47-02: BRAKE MASTER CYLINDER
08/1983-07/1987 TOYOTA CROWN YS120,MS12*,LS120 47-02: BRAKE MASTER CYLINDER
09/1987-09/1991 TOYOTA CROWN YS132,MS13*,GS131,LS130 47-02: BRAKE MASTER CYLINDER
10/1991-03/2001 TOYOTA CROWN GS131,JZS133,LS130,YS132 47-02: BRAKE MASTER CYLINDER
01/1996- TOYOTA CROWN COMFORT LXS1*,TSS10,YXS1* 47-02: BRAKE MASTER CYLINDER
10/1988-01/1993 TOYOTA CRESSIDA GX71,MX75,YX72,RX7* 47-02: BRAKE MASTER CYLINDER
05/1990-11/1999 TOYOTA PREVIA TCR1*,2* 47-02: BRAKE MASTER CYLINDER
08/1983-06/1998 TOYOTA HILUX LN5*,6*,YN5*,6*,RN5*,6* 47-02: BRAKE MASTER CYLINDER
08/1988-11/2004 TOYOTA HILUX/4RUNNER LN,RN,YN,VZN10*,11*,13*,KZN,LN205 47-02: BRAKE MASTER CYLINDER
08/1988-11/2004 TOYOTA HILUX LN200,RN8*,90,125,RZN200,YN8*,9*,LN8*,90 47-02: BRAKE MASTER CYLINDER
03/1979-01/2000 TOYOTA STOUT RK110,YK110 47-02: BRAKE MASTER CYLINDER
08/1980-03/1986 TOYOTA LAND CRUISER BJ4*,HJ47,FJ4* 47-02: BRAKE MASTER CYLINDER
11/1984-12/1989 TOYOTA LAND CRUISER RJ70,LJ70,BJ7*,HJ75,FJ7* 47-02: BRAKE MASTER CYLINDER
01/1990- TOYOTA LAND CRUISER FJ,FZJ,GRJ,HDJ,HJ,HZJ,KZJ,LJ,PZJ,RJ,VDJ7* 47-02: BRAKE MASTER CYLINDER
08/1980-07/1987 TOYOTA LAND CRUISER BJ60,HJ6*,FJ6* 47-02: BRAKE MASTER CYLINDER
08/1987-02/1992 TOYOTA LAND CRUISER BJ60,HJ6*,FJ62 47-02: BRAKE MASTER CYLINDER
01/1990-11/2006 TOYOTA LAND CRUISER FJ80,HDJ80,HZJ80,FZJ80 47-02: BRAKE MASTER CYLINDER
09/1993-07/1996 TOYOTA T100 RCK10 47-02: BRAKE MASTER CYLINDER
10/1996-09/2001 TOYOTA MEGA CRUISER BXD20 47-02: BRAKE MASTER CYLINDER

Any of those masters should work

Now to choose which has the best bore/diameter

Post by **Mud Dog** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 12:34 am

Interesting! Perhaps one of the cruiser models - might have to replace the booster to match vacuum volume as well if you go too big.

MOFASA · Post by **MOFASA** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 8:27 am

dantjie · Post by **dantjie** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 8:36 am

robvan87 wrote:

Does anybody have an idea of what brake master this is? Stole the photo while I was at marks place 3 weeks ago. Think it might be a forum member, very interested in getting one of them for my VAN but have no idea of what the part number is. Couldn't see it!

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Morning guys I have a 98 ltd sfa and mine looks the same as that STOLEN foto. :razz:

niclemaitre · Post by **niclemaitre** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 8:45 am

Does anybody have an idea of what brake master this is? Stole the photo while I was at marks place 3 weeks ago. Think it might be a forum member, very interested in getting one of them for my VAN but have no idea of what the part number is. Couldn't see it!

Exactly the same one on my old '97 22R

robvan87 · Post by **robvan87** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 3:34 pm

Sorry dantjie..... Take it was your VAN then!

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dantjie · Post by **dantjie** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 3:48 pm

Nope just copied your pic cause mine looks the same as that one.

hansman · Post by **hansman** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 6:28 pm

Naand se
KZTE calipars Cruiser FJ75 discs Lexus booster and master/cyl and Girling (Ford Sierra rear) callipars Hilux front discs for rear(little lathe work on discs) bolt on no hassles work more than perfect.Chec my entry on the forum under Vaaltyn kry discs
Hansman&Vaaltyn

hansman · Post by **hansman** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 6:54 pm

Hello
kyk na Vaaltyn fotos onder vorige blok deur Hansman&Vaatyn

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