Hilux Build

Willied · Post by **Willied** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:56 am

So for the last couple of years since 2008 I have been slowly building up my Hilux to become what I would want in a competent 4x4.. More replacing everything that broke than actually restoring it. Only parts of the original drive train left is the transfer case and the front diff.. Everything else was broken when I got it or broke during the following 5 years. To say I bought a lemon is a slight understatement. From the get go the vehicle enjoyed eating itself and behaving badly in general.

Originally we replaced the seized 4Y with a aftermarket Fong Kong as we did not know any better. Replaced the gearbox with a recon and had the prop-shafts rebuilt. After some hassles with the carb not working like it should I opted for a Weber, power and economy was improved but the motor never saw the potential of some of the other vehicles I got to know on trips. The 4Y was just never that spunky compared to other 4Y's even though it held it's own on low down torque. Even with EFI this did not change all that much. After several head gasket failures I finally had it rebuilt and it was great, after 7000km of hard work the motor just called it quit's and died in a cloud of oil smoke.. There, I had it with the 4Y, it was time to go.. I had defended this little pain in my existence for long enough. So Mark is swapping it with a Lexus as it is the cheapest decent power I could find.

Now the rest of the body is in some need of attention.. Not looking to do a concourse restore, just replacing warn hinges, lock set, replace glass, repair hail marks on the roof, small rust repairs, straighten out the tailgate, coat loadbin with thin rubber sheeting and all other manner of small marks and niggles.. and respray.

Looking to shorten the already over extended shackles to improve road manners and then soften the blade springs by removing some of the blades. Shocks with added length will give additional flex as my current shocks are flexed to their full extent only to stop the vehicle from flexing any further.

Then for one of the biggest parts, interior.. I want to make the cab passenger friendly and give it a good upgrade from the chocolate brown dash I have at the moment. What do I do, where do I go to get it colored, replaced or just reworked to something more friendly. I will be keeping the bench as I find it quite comfy, but everything else will be ripped out and replace. Dyna mat will cover the entire cab and with the body work some serious effort will be put into getting the doors to hang right and seal as they were supposed to.

Lets hear you ideas on what could be done to make a nice and decent truck an amazing adventure vehicle..

Agteros · Post by **Agteros** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:05 am

Exciting Willie!
Please tell us more about the Lexus-setup that Mark is busy with.

Willied · Post by **Willied** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:24 am

Originally Mark would have done a non VVTI build for me, less electronics and still decent power for the light weight truck. Then spits came out with the Mercury that would run the VVTI without hassle.. As the non VVTI motors are becoming more and more scarce with time their price went up and we found a VVTI for the same price as a non VVTI unit.. So we got that and it is being slotted into the truck matted to the 4spd Auto as I read to many stories about the little manual boxes not taking the punch the V8 can give. It is an incredible thing to go from 81kW to 190kW and just expect everything to last as they were.

Agteros · Post by **Agteros** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:30 am

How is the rest of the drive-train components going to look like? Do you have the SC or DC?

Willied · Post by **Willied** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:51 am

Running a SC and the rest of the components will stay the same. Not on mad 33 or 35's so the diffs (4,875) should hold up fine as the 31's turn with ease. Rear prop will be 30mm shorter but the angles will stay the same. The front prop will be 30mm longer and will have a (very slightly) better angle but I am keeping the double knuckle. If the diffs show signs of early wear I will start looking for LC80 axles and do a proper gearing to be able to run 33's.

Agteros · Post by **Agteros** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:25 pm

Gearbox 4 or 5 spd auto? Or are you keeping the manual?

Time to complete the V8 conversion?

Willied · Post by **Willied** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 1:41 pm

Keeping with the 4spd as it can be locked for crawling. Manual won't hold out long.

Was quoted 8 weeks but the motor should be running Friday.

You are close enough for a test spin once it is ready. Will give you a shout.

Agteros · Post by **Agteros** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 2:04 pm

Willied wrote:Keeping with the 4spd as it can be locked for crawling. Manual won't hold out long.

Was quoted 8 weeks but the motor should be running Friday.

You are close enough for a test spin once it is ready. Will give you a shout.

Jis Willie - this I will really appreciate!

I am still struggling after all these years to make up my mind....

cprinsloo · Post by **cprinsloo** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 3:51 pm

Hi Willie,

I will also keep an eye on this thread!!!

Good luck,

Cheers,

C

Agteros · Post by **Agteros** » Sat Dec 20, 2014 4:33 am

Hoe vorder dit Willie?

Post by **FIRSTGEER** » Sat Dec 20, 2014 5:41 am

Willie please keep us up to date with that engine mod and keep the pictures rolling.

Post by **Baasvark** » Sat Dec 20, 2014 8:45 am

Willie where are you? It's been 3 weeks.

Where are the pics?

Seems he's gone AWOL

Willied · Post by **Willied** » Sat Dec 20, 2014 9:51 am

Going well to a point.. As with all conversions some teething pains to sort out. I got the Hilux back on Thursday and drove it home. After a refuel stop early in the trip the EMU dropped the map and the truck ran a little uneven and would die on idle. I couriered the EMU back to Mark who has taken it up with Spits and we should have a resolution soon and then it is all cylinders firing once more.

Dad drove with to fetch the Hilux and even with the non proper tuning the Hilux made a good impression on the 147kW D4D dad was driving.

Power delivery is even and smooth, box shifts need to be evened out a little to reduce felt kick on shifts but is even enough for a truck. I will also be looking for a shifter to fit with the interior and give me added features like Trip Tronic shifting.. Would be great to be able to shift for dunes myself.

Now to test drive it for a good couple of km's and sort all the niggles, then off to Grootseun for some body work and then interior.. Looking to redo the dash and get away from the chocolate brown.

Also ordered a new set of LED lights for the dashboard back lights, should be here in the new year. http://www.enlightenoz.com/

Still need to get everything cleaned.. Did not give the guys time to finish as the road was long.

Post by **Mud Dog** » Sat Dec 20, 2014 10:03 am

Looking good!

Hope you get the niggles sorted.

Agteros · Post by **Agteros** » Sat Dec 20, 2014 2:16 pm

Willied wrote: You are close enough for a test spin once it is ready. Will give you a shout.

Onthou Willie - beloftes maak skuld !

Willied · Post by **Willied** » Sat Dec 20, 2014 2:22 pm

Agteros wrote:
Willied wrote: You are close enough for a test spin once it is ready. Will give you a shout.
Onthou Willie - beloftes maak skuld !

Ek sal verseker daarby bly..

hansman · Post by **hansman** » Sat Dec 20, 2014 3:31 pm

Willie
Dit lyk regtig baie netjies, het jy die Surf transfer op die outobox gebruik?Ek het my 1989 sfa dc ook outo gehou met surf tc dit werk regtig baie goed. My petrol verbruik is 7km/l waarmee ek baie tevrede is
Ek hoop jy geniet jou bakkie!!!!!!
Hansman&Vaaltyn

Willied · Post by **Willied** » Sat Dec 20, 2014 6:51 pm

hansman wrote:Willie
Dit lyk regtig baie netjies, het jy die Surf transfer op die outobox gebruik?

Hansman, nee ek het die Hilux se oorspronklike transfer gehou, Mark het net 'n adapter tussen die auto en die transfer gesit. Glo dit is een van Gilo Engineering se stukkies kuns.

Ek sien ook uit daarna dat ek ekstra krag het en goeie brandstof verbruik het.

Willied · Post by **Willied** » Wed Jan 07, 2015 10:38 pm

So biedjie terugvoer, bakkie staan nog net waar ek hom in die garage gelos het. Spits se manne is nog nie voltallig na die vakansie nie en behoort Maandag eers te kyk na wat presies fout is met die EMU. Dan as daar voorraad is kan ons dit omruil en dan verder beweeg.

Intussen het ek my aandag geskuif na die klein goedjies wat ek wil regmaak om die bakkie te maak soos ek hom wil hê. Tans sit die transfer shifter in die agterste posisie op die tonnel en dit los nie genoeg spasie vir die auto shifter om in 'n lyn daarmee geplaas te word nie. So dit sit tans op die kant van die tonnel waar dit sleg vertoon en in my pad is. (sien oplossing in fotos om dit te skuif)

Oplossing.. Skuif die transfer shifter na waar dit hoort en installeer dan 'n shifter wat by die bakkie se nuwe afwerking pas en nie brushed stainless is nie. Tans is daar twee shifters wat my aandag trek. Sien fotos, ek hoor graag wat julle dink.

Willied · Post by **Willied** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 12:43 pm

Sorry for the long period without any posts.. the Hilux isn't running..

End Feb it is a year since it was running.. Will be sending it to someone to complete the build so it is atleast running before I get to finish it like it should be.

cprinsloo · Post by **cprinsloo** » Sat Jan 31, 2015 8:26 pm

Willied wrote:Sorry for the long period without any posts.. the Hilux isn't running.. End Feb it is a year since it was running.. Will be sending it to someone to complete the build so it is atleast running before I get to finish it like it should be.

Eish. Sound ominous. Best of luck. I also have some stories to tell, I feel your frustration.

Agteros · Post by **Agteros** » Sun Feb 01, 2015 7:55 am

I wonder if I understand correctly

This is why I am still undecided. But my heart is burning on the V8.

X-Dors · Post by **X-Dors** » Sun Feb 01, 2015 6:41 pm

Agteros wrote:I wonder if I understand correctly :so pent:

This is why I am still undecided. But my heart is burning on the V8.

Agteros los daai gedagte kry daai 2.2 4y wat 100kw uit ?sit by Hoppy en gaan waar jy wil sonder probleme ek het Chris se EFI in en glo my niks staan in X Dors se pad nie en nou gaan daai ARB Locker ook in sy voorste diff in

Willied · Post by **Willied** » Sun Feb 01, 2015 8:39 pm

Agteros, nee nee.. moenie wees nie, ek is net bad luck met voertuie.. Suzi het ook foutloos tot by 175 000km gekom en toe slaan die weerlig haar..

Willied · Post by **Willied** » Wed Apr 08, 2015 9:06 pm

Update: Poked motor was installed in the Bakkie (left bank failed compression test).. I have taken it apon myself to finish this project at home with some skilled friends. I will keep you posted.

grips · Post by **grips** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 6:03 am

Willie dit is nou slegte nuus. Gedog ons kan al duine ry.

Vermoed jy kan `n valve timing problem hê op die bank wat nie kompressie het nie.
`n Enjin verloor nie sommer net druk op 4 pistons gelyk tydig nie.

Sterkte ek hoop ons sien die Hilux met die NCGT bY Boegoeberg in Okt.

Willied · Post by **Willied** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 11:36 am

Christo, dis presies wat n pel vir my reken. Nou is die volgende probleem daar is n biedjie van n knock, kon moontlik reeds n valve geslaan het. Op duurste is dit n nuwe motor.

cprinsloo · Post by **cprinsloo** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 5:52 pm

Yes Willie,

Jammer om te hoor van die moeilikheid.

Myne het sleg ge-idle maar met hoër refs was hy beter. Dit was toe die OCV (Oil control valve) op een bank wat vasgesteek het. Dis die ene wat die valve timing verander. Dis 10 minute se werk om hom te ruil, dalk is dit dit.

Cheers,

C

Willied · Post by **Willied** » Thu Apr 09, 2015 7:59 pm

cprinsloo wrote:Yes Willie,

Jammer om te hoor van die moeilikheid.

Myne het sleg ge-idle maar met hoër refs was hy beter. Dit was toe die OCV (Oil control valve) op een bank wat vasgesteek het. Dis die ene wat die valve timing verander. Dis 10 minute se werk om hom te ruil, dalk is dit dit.

Cheers,

C

Chris, hy idle nie eers nie.. spog en spat as hy aan die rev kom.. Oil valve sal nie kompressie wegneem nie.. Maar ek sal na hulle kyk, dankie.

Willied · Post by **Willied** » Fri Apr 10, 2015 8:05 pm

Cam timing is fine..

Radiator is missing lots of water..

Looking more and more like a replacement motor..

cprinsloo · Post by **cprinsloo** » Sat Apr 11, 2015 9:24 am

Ai, jammer om te hoor. Voorspoed!

Post by **LouisZ** » Sat Apr 11, 2015 1:41 pm

Kyk net of die sensor se drade wat ek omkring het in swart reg is. Alles daar is en haal hom sommer ook uit en maak die skoon.

Willied · Post by **Willied** » Mon Apr 13, 2015 9:03 pm

Dankie Louis, reeds reggemaak en toe die motor onegalig loop die kompressie nagegaan..

Vordering:

grips · Post by **grips** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 6:19 am

Willie `n mens kan nie afleidings van foto`s maak nie maar jou linker bank se agterste cam bearings lyk of hulle aan oil starvation ly.

Willied · Post by **Willied** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 7:41 pm

Christo ek vermoed ek is uit my diepte uit, Hylton het gese hy sal met groot graagte die motor vir my deur gaan en uitsort. Alles klink net vir hom biedjie fishy en hy wil self agter die kap van die byl kom. Jy sal hom op Community ken as 3Bar..

Sodra hy laat weet hoe sy dinge gaan werk sal ek die Hilux haak na sy plek toe. Die ding moet nou maar rande vat maar loop sal hy hardloop..

Post by **Mud Dog** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 9:09 pm

grips wrote:Willie `n mens kan nie afleidings van foto`s maak nie maar jou linker bank se agterste cam bearings lyk of hulle aan oil starvation ly.

Heel moontlik ... iets is daar nie pluis nie, albei cams het daar agter vir een of ander rede blerrie warm geword.

Willied · Post by **Willied** » Wed Apr 15, 2015 7:31 pm

Andy, the water level in die radiator was below the motors pick up so it seems like it was drinking/leaking water.. And to top it off the bottel was not feeding back to the radiator.

Post by **Mud Dog** » Thu Apr 16, 2015 12:18 am

Eina!!

Willied · Post by **Willied** » Fri May 29, 2015 7:34 pm

And there is progress.. after many promises I dropped the "van" off at Grootseun yesterday.. Motor is out and now to see what the verdict is.. Really positive about it for once..

grips · Post by **grips** » Sat May 30, 2015 8:02 am

Willied wrote:And there is progress.. after many promises I dropped the "van" off at Grootseun yesterday.. Motor is out and now to see what the verdict is.. Really positive about it for once..

Willie ek is bly dinge gaan nou na `n kant toe. Jy kan wraggies nie weer `n Whooooopa mis nie

Willied · Post by **Willied** » Sat May 30, 2015 7:03 pm

Ja nee ek kan nie.. Het al gesien hoe ek weer een moet mis.. Maar nou draai die dinge, die motor is reeds vrydag uit gewees na ek hom donderdag afgegooi het.. Behoort maandag/dinsdag te weet wat die skade was en of hy gered gaan word.. Hoop eintlik hy is dood.. Upgrade tyd.. Wil die Yank manne skrik maak met 'n UR reeks motor, al sit ek dan die baby in..

"The 1UR-FSE V8 engine, introduced with the Lexus LS 460 & LS 460 L luxury sedans in 2006 has a 4.6 liter (4608cc) displacement, which it gets from a 94 mm bore and 83 mm stroke. The engine includes D4-S direct injection and dual VVT-iE producing 385 hp (287 kW) at 6,400 rpm and 51 kg·m (500 N·m; 369 lb·ft) at 4,100 rpm."

grips · Post by **grips** » Sun May 31, 2015 5:43 am

Willied wrote:Ja nee ek kan nie.. Het al gesien hoe ek weer een moet mis.. Maar nou draai die dinge, die motor is reeds vrydag uit gewees na ek hom donderdag afgegooi het.. Behoort maandag/dinsdag te weet wat die skade was en of hy gered gaan word.. Hoop eintlik hy is dood.. Upgrade tyd.. Wil die Yank manne skrik maak met 'n UR reeks motor, al sit ek dan die baby in..

"The 1UR-FSE V8 engine, introduced with the Lexus LS 460 & LS 460 L luxury sedans in 2006 has a 4.6 liter (4608cc) displacement, which it gets from a 94 mm bore and 83 mm stroke. The engine includes D4-S direct injection and dual VVT-iE producing 385 hp (287 kW) at 6,400 rpm and 51 kg·m (500 N·m; 369 lb·ft) at 4,100 rpm."

Klink reg, nou gooi daai 1UR dit gaan `n wenner wees.

Agteros · Post by **Agteros** » Sun May 31, 2015 8:12 am

Willie jy gaan die chassis buig met daai enjin

Agteros · Post by **Agteros** » Sun May 31, 2015 8:14 am

Willie doen Grootseun ombouings? Hy is mos in Centurion iewers?

Willied · Post by **Willied** » Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:28 pm

Christo, lyk of ek sal moet.. 1UZ is ISM.. Het 'n dood sertifikaat en alles.. een valve se kop is af en glo daar is 'n paar goed meer as net 'n spark plug stukkend geslaan..

Hugo, soos hy sê, wat wil jy hê, hulle doen alles.. Kya Sands/Midrand area.

Agteros · Post by **Agteros** » Tue Jun 02, 2015 4:40 am

Willied wrote:Christo, lyk of ek sal moet.. 1UZ is ISM.. Het 'n dood sertifikaat en alles.. een valve se kop is af en glo daar is 'n paar goed meer as net 'n spark plug stukkend geslaan..

Hugo, soos hy sê, wat wil jy hê, hulle doen alles.. Kya Sands/Midrand area.

Willie gee jy om om bietjie meer details te gee asb? Wat is Grootseun se besigheid se naam, tel. no ens. ens.
Ek sukkel steeds om by die regte ou uit te kom om die job te doen. :roll:

Willied · Post by **Willied** » Wed Jun 03, 2015 11:58 am

Hugo, het jy toe al kans gehad om met die man te praat?

mosteran · Post by **mosteran** » Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:27 am

Net ter inligting,

daai linker bank lyk so agv die PCV.
Ek het ook gestres toe ek dit sien op my 1UZFE maar na bietjie navorsing het ek my antwoord gekry.
Lees bietjie hier

http://www.aa1car.com/library/pcv.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Willied · Post by **Willied** » Thu Jun 04, 2015 11:30 am

Dankie Andre, ek sal daai 'n biedjie lees..

Hierdie is hoe die motor aan die binnekant lyk..

grips · Post by **grips** » Sat Jun 06, 2015 6:27 am

Lyk my jy het `n dud enjin gekry. Gaan jy hom herstel of is dit nou 1UR tyd.

Agteros · Post by **Agteros** » Sat Jun 06, 2015 8:56 am

Willied wrote:Hugo, het jy toe al kans gehad om met die man te praat?

Dankie Willie - ek het gebel en boodskap gelos. Hopelik praat ons binnekort!

Willied · Post by **Willied** » Sat Jun 06, 2015 6:21 pm

grips wrote:Lyk my jy het `n dud enjin gekry. Gaan jy hom herstel of is dit nou 1UR tyd.

Wag net dat Driko my lat weet wat my opsies is en die koste en dan sal ek besluit ja.. Op minste sal dit 'n 4.3l wees wat terug gaan in daai lyf in.. Ek weet nie of dit bloot 'n dud was en of dit sommer 'n vorige "mock up" motor is wat beskikbaar was nie.. Ek het niks meer vertroue oor dat dit is wat belowe was nie..

Maar dit sal nou einde kry..

The Legend · Post by **The Legend** » Sun Jul 05, 2015 6:32 pm

Willie
Wat is die nuutste verwikkelinge hier?

dalkill · Post by **dalkill** » Sun Jul 05, 2015 7:09 pm

Yislike Willie,

Ek kry skoons koue rillings waneer ek deur jou posts lees.
Dus my grootste vrees... dat ek so 'n lemon koop. En die suzie lyk my elke dag meer so... clutch, cold start problems, braking issues, gear change issues, sluggishness, shaking suspension over 80kph.... and i just have bakkie over a month. Enigste positiev van die bakkie is 10.2km / lt.

Sterke met jou bakkie. Jy is meer dapper as wat ek is... ek sou lankal tou op gegooi het , en bakkie verkoop.

Willied · Post by **Willied** » Sun Jul 05, 2015 7:47 pm

Nuutste.. Rekening om reg te maak wat Mark gebreek het is meer as waarvoor die bakkie verkoop en dan sluit dit nie opknap werk in nie.. Dit sou ek gedoen het as die meganies sound was, maar dit is dalk nie in die bakkie se toekoms nie..

In die meantime het ek ander plan gemaak..

The Legend · Post by **The Legend** » Mon Jul 06, 2015 4:36 am

Baie geluk met jou nuwe wa ,mag jy net vreugdevolle myle ervaar.

Jammer om te hoor van jou bakkie.

Hangover · Post by **Hangover** » Mon Jul 06, 2015 6:53 am

Hi Willie

Ek het ook n 1uZ conversion by Mark lat doen en my trokkie loop nou al baie kilometers sonder meganiese probleme... Wat was die ander goed wat Mark "gebreek" het?

Willied · Post by **Willied** » Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:26 pm

Hangover, ek is bewus daarvan dat baie mense gelukkig is met die werk wat hy gedoen het.. Myne, not so much..

Motor is dood na 100km
Engine mounts sit skeef
Radiator sirkuleer net in die boonste derde
Radiator fan housing is afgesny dat hy pas
Gearbox mount is niks werd nie
Gearbox lek olie by die sump en transfer case adapter
Adaptor na transfer is amateur werk
Bedrading was verkeerd en Spits het foute opgetel
Speed sensor sit nie in die bellhousing waar dit hoort nie maar oop op die prop shaft

Maar voel vry en kom kyk..

Post by **LouisZ** » Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:36 pm

Geluk met daai mooi FJ man!!

Is jou bakkie verkoop jong?

Willied · Post by **Willied** » Mon Jul 06, 2015 7:12 pm

Dankie Louis,

sal hom biedjie vir jou kom wys.. kort paar goedjies vir hom..

Ja ek het nog die Hilux, sal nou biedjie op die "Build" afskaal en hom my werk bakkie maak.. soms nog biedjie speel met hom.