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3.0 D4D engine into SFA

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:54 am
by SeandbSFA
Hi All,

Has anyone out there put a 3.0D4D motor into a SFA body? I have the 97 2.8D 4x4 DC Raider and although the motor is still 100% (at 400 000km) I can get my hands on a good condition 3.0 D4D motor with ECU and I am very tempted to do this conversion for the obvious extra vooma. If there are any hickups or challenges that I should be aware of, and of course good solid advice.

Looking forward to some good feedback.

Thanks
Sean

Re: 3.0 D4D engine into SFA

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 2:47 pm
by Stef
If you could mate the D4D engine to your existing drive train I can't see any major issues. I'd check the input shaft of the current drive train to see if a D4D clutch will fit over the splines, and if there is a bellhousing that would fit

If the engine can't be mated to the existing box I think it will take too many mods to get it to work with a D4D box in the SFA, perhaps then a KZ box & txfer case and possibly both diffs would be the easiest route, provided one could mate that to the D4D engine.

So the feasibility will be dependent on what box would work with both the D4D engine and the SFA diff setup i.e txfer case on the same side (ratios are easy enough to adapt).

Re: 3.0 D4D engine into SFA

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:27 am
by pietpetoors
If you have the ECU and wiring harnass it should be possible.
Think D4D and KZ Blocks are the same so you should be able to fit it to KZ box..... if you can find one.

D4D box has output shafts on the wrong side.

Re: 3.0 D4D engine into SFA

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 6:04 pm
by SeandbSFA
Thanks very much chaps, all makes sense. I will do some investigating. First prize to mate the D4D to the existing drivetrain. I will keep you posted, and if we go ahead, I will post pics and progress reports for all to enjoy.

Re: 3.0 D4D engine into SFA

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:00 pm
by Riaan Opperman
I want to do the same to my SFA but getting that D4D to purrr is the problem. With the scratching I have done it seems the you need all the electronics to make it run, coded key box, keys, dash, throttle box etc. With just the engine & ECU you will apparently not get it running.

I hope Im wrong on this because its easy to just get an engine & ECU, less easy to get a written of donor vehicle to scavenge all the bits of.

If the clever peoples can jump in and advise, it will be greatly appreciated

Groetnis


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Re: 3.0 D4D engine into SFA

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:45 am
by Stef
Eish no...if that is the case just go buy a complete D4D bakkie :think:

Lexus is then still the best bang for your buck, provided you get the proper radiator, sump, bell housing and the D4D clutch

Re: 3.0 D4D engine into SFA

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:43 pm
by Thabogrobler
Dwayne here on the forum has sorted the electronic issues - he makes it run without all the coded keys etc.

D4D in am SFA is a great combo@

Re: 3.0 D4D engine into SFA

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:23 am
by Stef
Kostes vir so conversion? D4D engine seke weer R40k


Edit: R40k vir D4D enjin op Gumtree....R150k om jou 4.2 Cruiser om te bou na 'n D4D toe http://www.n14x4.co.za/projects/

Re: 3.0 D4D engine into SFA

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:42 pm
by Baasvark
Stef wrote:Kostes vir so conversion? D4D engine seke weer R40k


Edit: R40k vir D4D enjin op Gumtree....R150k om jou 4.2 Cruiser om te bou na 'n D4D toe http://www.n14x4.co.za/projects/
Teen daardie prys hoop ek jy kry 'n nuwe een!

Wonder of die ratkas gaan hou?

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Re: 3.0 D4D engine into SFA

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:51 pm
by Stef
Dus "vanaf" R40k...
Wil my voorkom of di 1HZ se ratkas di krag kan hanteer as hulle net di engine swop doen,maar R150k is n rowwe prys....

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Re: 3.0 D4D engine into SFA

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:12 pm
by Thabogrobler
Stef wrote:
Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:51 pm
Dus "vanaf" R40k...
Wil my voorkom of di 1HZ se ratkas di krag kan hanteer as hulle net di engine swop doen,maar R150k is n rowwe prys....

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Jip,

N1 was nog nooit beskuldig van enige iets cheap nie!

Re: 3.0 D4D engine into SFA

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:10 pm
by Rigger
Die ratkas in die 1HZ Cruisers is presies dieselfde as die in die 4x4 D4d’s. Dis die R151f box. Dis net die transfer box wat verskil.

Re: 3.0 D4D engine into SFA

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:10 am
by Stef
Nou Quote mnr Grobler my voor ek my tikfout kon reg maak.... :blushing:
Rigger wrote:
Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:10 pm
Die ratkas in die 1HZ Cruisers is presies dieselfde as die in die 4x4 D4d’s. Dis die R151f box. Dis net die transfer box wat verskil.
OO Ok nie dit geweet nie...

Re: 3.0 D4D engine into SFA

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:10 pm
by Thabogrobler
Rigger wrote:
Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:10 pm
Die ratkas in die 1HZ Cruisers is presies dieselfde as die in die 4x4 D4d’s. Dis die R151f box. Dis net die transfer box wat verskil.
Op die Kz het die output shaft se dikte verskil van die Cruiser s'n - weet nie of dit ook die geval is met die D4D's nie.

Re: 3.0 D4D engine into SFA

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:57 pm
by Rigger
Ja jy is reg. Die output shafts verskil omdat die transfer boxes verskil.

Re: 3.0 D4D engine into SFA

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:28 am
by Stef
Solank die flanges pas is dit seker nie 'n probleem nie, of praat ons vd output shaft van die ratkas af txfer box toe?

Re: 3.0 D4D engine into SFA

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 4:37 pm
by SeandbSFA
Thabogrobler wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:43 pm
Dwayne here on the forum has sorted the electronic issues - he makes it run without all the coded keys etc.

D4D in am SFA is a great combo@
Thank you,

Dwayne are you out there?