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OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:34 pm

RooiLux wrote:
OOOOMS wrote:http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/t ... o-Kinshasa

Interesting story, read it when published. Yeh, some scary moments...respect :!:
Het sopas heeldag gesit en die man se trip report gelees!Wow!!!Wat 'n trip en wat 'n ervaaring!Was 'n baie interesante lees kon nie ophou nie

Apologies Mark, Marius said:

I have just sat and read this man's report all day! Wow!!! What a trip and what an experience! Was very interesting and could not stop reading

missouriman · Post by **missouriman** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:42 pm

OOOOMS wrote:http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/t ... o-Kinshasa

Interesting story, read it when published. Yeh, some scary moments...respect :!:

NO kidding,,,,, the officers story... made to eat your ears??? cooking up your kids??? oh my word.. that really bothered me... that the troops.. or any one could do some thing like that....................................... and think that it is ok... that really scared me...

I don't ever want to do more then read about things like that in my life.... how horrible!!!

that is why I had to ask if it is really like that..

look at the maps.. we are all connected here. maybe 3500 miles coast to coast... is that really happening over there?? if so, how far way from you guys?

sorry but here in the middle of the usa every thing else seems very far way....

that story I posted up only sounds like it is around 1000 miles away from you guys.

I hope that you are safe from these things.

missouriman · Post by **missouriman** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:43 pm

OOOOMS wrote:
RooiLux wrote:
OOOOMS wrote:http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/t ... o-Kinshasa

Interesting story, read it when published. Yeh, some scary moments...respect :!:
Het sopas heeldag gesit en die man se trip report gelees!Wow!!!Wat 'n trip en wat 'n ervaaring!Was 'n baie interesante lees kon nie ophou nie
Apologies Mark, Marius said:

I have just sat and read this man's report all day! Wow!!! What a trip and what an experience! Was very interesting and could not stop reading

that is how I felt also... I read the whole thing in one sitting.

OH,, thank you for the translation.. I still think that it is really cool that you guys are on the other side of this world we live on and here we are talking back and forth... this internet thing... face book.. (wish that I thought of it))) is really neat... If I had that much money I would come over and meet you guys!!!

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:48 pm

More like 3200km from Jhb, and yip they are hooligans......Africa or more so Central Afica is a bit of a jungle.

But we are quite OK.....actaually

We finkz

missouriman · Post by **missouriman** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:00 pm

OOOOMS wrote:More like 3200km from Jhb, and yip they are hooligans......Africa or more so Central Afica is a bit of a jungle.

But we are quite OK.....actaually We finkz

so I just did the km to miles.. that is 2000 miles... so for me that would be happening in flordia... from south dakota.

are these things really happening or is it just the internet stories???

sure sounded like they were telling the story of thier trip.

I would love to read that care takers diary

missouriman · Post by **missouriman** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:02 pm

any of you have this Face book from the USA?

it is like a personal forum thing.

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:07 pm

Yip abserlutely happening there, and worse :!:

missouriman wrote:any of you have this Face book from the USA?

it is like a personal forum thing.

Yes we have face book here also......

We are not that far behind..... :wink2:

missouriman · Post by **missouriman** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:15 pm

OOOOMS wrote:Yip abserlutely happening there, and worse :!:

missouriman wrote:any of you have this Face book from the USA?

it is like a personal forum thing.
Yes we have face book here also......

We are not that far behind..... :wink2:

that is awful...

so share your face book addresses... mine is.

https://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/pro ... =673398464

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:23 pm

missouriman wrote:
OOOOMS wrote:Yip abserlutely happening there, and worse :!:

missouriman wrote:any of you have this Face book from the USA?

it is like a personal forum thing.
Yes we have face book here also......

We are not that far behind..... :wink2:

that is awful...

so share your face book addresses... mine is.

https://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/pro ... =673398464

Kaspaas · Post by **Kaspaas** » Wed Dec 07, 2011 6:19 am

Geez Mark, really good read!!
Totally enjoyed it.
Well, if you could picture 2000miles of that rough terrain, it would be more like 4000miles to cover, before they would reach us in RSA!

Many of the older folks on die forum will tell you just as desturbing stories from the days gone past in Angola. Its much beter now, and many Saffers ar travelling that way now. Corruption is part of everyday life though. Its sad but its true. In SA we also have our problems, not sure how much we are alowed to say on the forum, when it comes to our farm murders. Anyhow, I life way up North, about 30miles from the Namibian border. Wild Africa is right on my doorstep!

Time to explore!!

Gunta · Post by **Gunta** » Wed Dec 07, 2011 7:11 am

missouriman wrote:Just came across this road trip on the internet.

please tell me that it is really not that way. It is a story about the congo...

I was horrified to read some of that, and some I would rather not even think about. there is a warning to not read the post that bothered me the most..........

it is a great story of adventure in a toyota and very well written. but some of it I found very disturbing.

http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/t ... o-Kinshasa

Mark, this is unfortunately very true. I was in the army in the mid 80's and one village we went through the chief had his ears cut off and his wife had to eat them and their daughters were raped. I was not nice, we did catch the troop that did it but I wont go into what we did to them. A lot of the guys lost their compassion for many years after the Angola war, I know it took me almost 10 years to start feeling I cared about people again. At that time I became like a stone and nothing shocked me and I did not care much about human life after seeing what these people did to their own people.

RooiLux · Post by **RooiLux** » Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:21 pm

OOOOMS wrote:
RooiLux wrote:
OOOOMS wrote:http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/t ... o-Kinshasa

Interesting story, read it when published. Yeh, some scary moments...respect :!:
Het sopas heeldag gesit en die man se trip report gelees!Wow!!!Wat 'n trip en wat 'n ervaaring!Was 'n baie interesante lees kon nie ophou nie
Apologies Mark, Marius said:

I have just sat and read this man's report all day! Wow!!! What a trip and what an experience! Was very interesting and could not stop reading

Smaak my die mense verstaan nie my afrikaans nie/Tastes for me the peoples dont understands my afrikaans?

Ek het blykbaar die dele mis gelees war mense mekaar eet het net die ou se posts gelees wat die toer gedoen het dit was baie interesant!/
I clearly misread the parts where the people eat each other, I only read the posts the guy made who did the trip was an interesting read.

Ek raak nou goed met die vertaling ne!
I ma getting good at this translation thing hey?

Post by **george** » Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:33 pm

I just finished with that trip report.

I salute them.

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:00 pm

RooiLux wrote:
OOOOMS wrote:
RooiLux wrote:
OOOOMS wrote:http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/t ... o-Kinshasa

Interesting story, read it when published. Yeh, some scary moments...respect :!:
Het sopas heeldag gesit en die man se trip report gelees!Wow!!!Wat 'n trip en wat 'n ervaaring!Was 'n baie interesante lees kon nie ophou nie
Apologies Mark, Marius said:

I have just sat and read this man's report all day! Wow!!! What a trip and what an experience! Was very interesting and could not stop reading
Smaak my die mense verstaan nie my afrikaans nie/Tastes for me the peoples dont understands my afrikaans?
Ek het blykbaar die dele mis gelees war mense mekaar eet het net die ou se posts gelees wat die toer gedoen het dit was baie interesant!/
I clearly misread the parts where the people eat each other, I only read the posts the guy made who did the trip was an interesting read.

Ek raak nou goed met die vertaling ne!
I ma getting good at this translation thing hey?

Hi Marius, it is Forum courtecy to keep in the same language as the original poster :wink2: Knowing we do not always keep to it it makes it easier for the original poster espesially from abroad

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:14 pm

george wrote:I just finished with that trip report.

I salute them.

Abserlutely......me thinks me not taking the wife and kids there :roll: :roll: :roll:

If you read the entire report, you must already be on leave......

Post by **george** » Wed Dec 07, 2011 4:09 pm

OOOOMS wrote:
george wrote:I just finished with that trip report.

I salute them.
Abserlutely......me thinks me not taking the wife and kids there :roll: :roll: :roll:

If you read the entire report, you must already be on leave......

i am finished with the wrap up,but i see there is still a bucket load of pages

RooiLux · Post by **RooiLux** » Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:05 am

OOOOMS wrote:
RooiLux wrote:
OOOOMS wrote:
RooiLux wrote:
OOOOMS wrote:http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/t ... o-Kinshasa

Interesting story, read it when published. Yeh, some scary moments...respect :!:
Het sopas heeldag gesit en die man se trip report gelees!Wow!!!Wat 'n trip en wat 'n ervaaring!Was 'n baie interesante lees kon nie ophou nie
Apologies Mark, Marius said:

I have just sat and read this man's report all day! Wow!!! What a trip and what an experience! Was very interesting and could not stop reading
Smaak my die mense verstaan nie my afrikaans nie/Tastes for me the peoples dont understands my afrikaans?
Ek het blykbaar die dele mis gelees war mense mekaar eet het net die ou se posts gelees wat die toer gedoen het dit was baie interesant!/
I clearly misread the parts where the people eat each other, I only read the posts the guy made who did the trip was an interesting read.

Ek raak nou goed met die vertaling ne!
I ma getting good at this translation thing hey?
Hi Marius, it is Forum courtecy to keep in the same language as the original poster :wink2: Knowing we do not always keep to it it makes it easier for the original poster espesially from abroad

I did not sees wif my eyes he is not from sunny sa so i dog maar he understands afrikaans!

Will keep this in mind next time or I shall use my new aquired skill of translation

Gunta · Post by **Gunta** » Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:44 am

I ave been reading that for a week now, still some pages to go. I would definitely do it but not with my wife. Mark are you coming?

Post by **george** » Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:05 pm

Gunta wrote:I ave been reading that for a week now, still some pages to go. I would definitely do it but not with my wife. Mark are you coming?

Put me up

As long as the vehicle we use have some side wheels. I will hate it to mess my van up like that

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:17 pm

Gunta wrote:I ave been reading that for a week now, still some pages to go. I would definitely do it but not with my wife. Mark are you coming?

I will give that route a miss, tx

Gunta · Post by **Gunta** » Thu Dec 08, 2011 3:56 pm

Mark, I wish there was a smilley with a chicken running around for you

missouriman · Post by **missouriman** » Thu Dec 08, 2011 8:06 pm

wow... this all seems to have taken a sharp turn for the worst.

I sure did not mean to offend anyone. just trying to share from the other side of the world.

if you don't like this thread please just post some where else.

other then the last few posts I have really enjoyed sharing and learning.

of course being from the USA I can not read what was said, but I gather that it is not positive.

Borntofish · Post by **Borntofish** » Thu Dec 08, 2011 8:14 pm

No Mark, do not take it personal. It is South African humour for you...no problems at all...

Pora · Post by **Pora** » Thu Dec 08, 2011 8:42 pm

Post by **Mud Dog** » Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:27 pm

No Mark ..... don't be alarmed. "OOOOMS" & "Gunta" are well known to each other and are just pulling the p1ss with each other.

There have been very few instances of ill feeling here ever ....... and usually the guys get over it in a day or two.

Gunta · Post by **Gunta** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:00 pm

he he

ThysdJ · Post by **ThysdJ** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:35 pm

Mark Gunta also knows everything about hi-lift jacks...

missouriman · Post by **missouriman** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:50 pm

OK, I will not take any offence.. I just can not read most of that. what little I can try to read in english was not sounding all that good.. I will keep posting from my area. I just want to learn and share our wheeling trips.
that wheeling trip.. I need a chicken.. your world is so different from mine. I want to learn and share.

I would love to come down and go wheeling.. but I sure don't want to go to the wrong area and be made to eat my wifes ears!!! that story really made your area of the world seem very scarey...

yes, those people have some big balls.. there are many points that I would have shot some one.. but also that sounds like a no win... so lets get back to wheeling and new born babies.. and the fun of wheeling.

Post by **george** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:35 pm

missouriman wrote:OK, I will not take any offence.. I just can not read most of that. what little I can try to read in english was not sounding all that good.. I will keep posting from my area. I just want to learn and share our wheeling trips.
that wheeling trip.. I need a chicken.. your world is so different from mine. I want to learn and share.

I would love to come down and go wheeling.. but I sure don't want to go to the wrong area and be made to eat my wifes ears!!! that story really made your area of the world seem very scarey...

yes, those people have some big balls.. there are many points that I would have shot some one.. but also that sounds like a no win... so lets get back to wheeling and new born babies.. and the fun of wheeling.

Hey Mark no sweat.our place of the globe is actually quite cool.pretty much the same as you.We got the Congo you have Papua new guinea

Same shit.

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:54 pm

Mark, if you ever want to come this way SA, Namibia, Bots, Zim, Moz and Malawi.....just shout. Here are some awsome places, would be happy to assist / guide and, and, and

I know pretty much how your life-style is in USA, been there, but no tx. One you been here you will come back every holiday....that I assure you :wink2:

In fact we are leaving in the morning for Nam, wow what an awsome place, 4 weeks will post some pics when we return

Post by **george** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:35 pm

Hey Mark no sweat.our place of the globe is actually quite cool.pretty much the same as you.We got the Congo you have Papua new guinea Same doo-doo.

i must have been smoking something

I had a momentary lapse of reason and taught you where in Australia. :alvarin:

missouriman · Post by **missouriman** » Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:48 pm

Gunta wrote:
missouriman wrote:Just came across this road trip on the internet.

please tell me that it is really not that way. It is a story about the congo...

I was horrified to read some of that, and some I would rather not even think about. there is a warning to not read the post that bothered me the most..........

it is a great story of adventure in a toyota and very well written. but some of it I found very disturbing.

http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/t ... o-Kinshasa
Mark, this is unfortunately very true. I was in the army in the mid 80's and one village we went through the chief had his ears cut off and his wife had to eat them and their daughters were raped. I was not nice, we did catch the troop that did it but I wont go into what we did to them. A lot of the guys lost their compassion for many years after the Angola war, I know it took me almost 10 years to start feeling I cared about people again. At that time I became like a stone and nothing shocked me and I did not care much about human life after seeing what these people did to their own people.

I am very sorry for you to have seen these things. one part of me want's to hear your whole story. the other part of me want's to not think that a man can do these things to anouther man or woman.

I have complet and total respect for those that work in the military to defend the rights of those that can not defend them selves.

I wish that things were like the bible says.. and when some thing horrible was about to happen a higher power would step in and stop it, punish those that are wrong right then and there. thank you for trying to defend the innocent.

Gunta · Post by **Gunta** » Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:28 pm

That would have been nice if possible. The worst of it all was we were forced to go to the army for 2 years or else go to jail.

missouriman · Post by **missouriman** » Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:02 pm

HEY GUYS, wife is seven weeks pregnant!!! so Jacob will have playmate!!

Post by **Mud Dog** » Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:10 pm

That's great Mark! Nice that they will not be too far apart in age either. Well done to the pair of you and wishing you both all the very best!

missouriman · Post by **missouriman** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:51 pm

just read through this again. letting go of the horror stories... my god man, bless you for defending the inocent....
I am glad and hope that my new babies never have to see or even hear of these things.

check the origional thread for up dates..

I wish that I were a rich (money wise) guy so I could fly down or up and meet you folks.

Post by **CasKru** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:54 pm

missouriman wrote:just read through this again. letting go of the horror stories... my god man, bless you for defending the inocent....
I am glad and hope that my new babies never have to see or even hear of these things.

check the origional thread for up dates..

I wish that I were a rich (money wise) guy so I could fly down or up and meet you folks.

Wouldn't it have been great if we all had enough money (not rich) not to have to think about it

Would also love to travel all over and meet each member of this forum

Post by **Mud Dog** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:35 pm

Hi Mark .... good to hear from you again. Hope you and yours are all well, and yes, it would be awesome to be able to hook up .... would love to do a trail through the Black Hills with you and your mates!

Yeah, it's sad but greed is in the nature of man .... whether it's greed for power, wealth, land, whatever ... it's the cause of most conflict, and conflict on a mass scale (wars) have been fought over many centuries throughout the world. Generally there is an underlying sense of fair play .... some practises are acceptable while others are not. (The Geneva Convention post WW2 formalised a lot of these.) Africa however, marches to the beat of a different, more primitive drummer .... barbarism and savagery still exist, wholesale!

As Mark (Gunta) said, we were forced into the military, there was no choice, all white males were conscripted into the South African Defence Force. Most of us that saw active service witnessed / experienced some incidents that cried out against the value system of our "western" upbringing. One had to harden one's heart to survive and escape insanity, losing some of one's humanity along the way. Each one dealt with it in his own way.

When it was all over some recovered / bounced back quicker than others, while some remained 'damaged goods', unable to come to terms with their experiences .... some of those scars run deep.

But hey, I'd like to believe that I'm a better person for it ... much like realising the real value of something only after it has been taken away or denied to you, and then appreciating it much more when you get it back.

We are what we are .... a product of our doctrines, experiences and our individuality ....and in our case, by and large, I think we're still a fairly decent bunch despite it all.

Take care.

.

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:38 pm

Yo Andy, that's deep man.....

Post by **Mud Dog** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:49 pm

Wait till I really get on a roll!

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:51 pm

Mud Dog wrote:
Wait till I really get on a roll!

Oh sorry...thought you were

Post by **Mud Dog** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:21 pm

missouriman · Post by **missouriman** » Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:59 pm

going to be having a Girl!!!! guess we will have to keep both toyota's... pink and blue!!

Post by **Mud Dog** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:15 am

missouriman wrote:going to be having a Girl!!!! guess we will have to keep both toyota's... pink and blue!!

Congrats! A pigeon pair!

.... Yeah, now you'll definitely have to keep them both and whatever mods you do to yours, you will have to do to the pink one!

missouriman · Post by **missouriman** » Thu Apr 05, 2012 4:21 pm

both trucks are set up pretty much the same right now...

missouriman · Post by **missouriman** » Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:47 am

reading back though this thread, I am sorry I brought the congo story into it..... very dark turn....

so going to keep this light from now on. how is every one doing.. trips, fun,, ect...

here is baby boy at his sisters ob appointment.

http://s637.photobucket.com/albums/uu92 ... H01985.mp4

http://s637.photobucket.com/albums/uu92 ... H02040.mp4

Post by **Mud Dog** » Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:22 am

Hi Mark, good to see you here again

.... been a while since you last visited!

Nah, the Congo story was a very entertaining read .... some things are what they are, so don't be sorry.

That little guy (not so little any more) is full of beans! .... And that laughter!

(Did you give him some Nitrous Oxide, or what!

)

Good to see you're all well! Visit more often!

missouriman · Post by **missouriman** » Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:04 pm

aw some fathers day.and picture of sad garden, baby girl bump.

http://s637.photobucket.com/albums/uu92 ... ers%20day/

baby boy chair dancing
http://s637.photobucket.com/albums/uu92 ... H02056.mp4

Post by **Royco** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:47 am

missouriman wrote:aw some fathers day.and picture of sad garden, baby girl bump.

http://s637.photobucket.com/albums/uu92 ... ers%20day/

baby boy chair dancing
http://s637.photobucket.com/albums/uu92 ... H02056.mp4

Love it!!
Help like that is hard to find these days

And every little job takes twice as long...

Nice Mark

Post by **CasKru** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:55 am

missouriman wrote:aw some fathers day.and picture of sad garden, baby girl bump.

http://s637.photobucket.com/albums/uu92 ... ers%20day/

baby boy chair dancing
http://s637.photobucket.com/albums/uu92 ... H02056.mp4

Excellent... just imagine how long it would have taken you to assemble that gas barbecue if you did have the helping hand

missouriman · Post by **missouriman** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:45 pm

It was pretty funny, He would hand me the leatherman tool every time I put in a screw. Then want it back so he could beat on things. he really seemed to be watching and trying to help.

Each time after I put a part on, he would grab and shake it like he was testing to see if I did it right.

don't think he is ready to learn welding yet!!!

Post by **CasKru** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:48 pm

missouriman wrote:It was pretty funny, He would hand me the leatherman tool every time I put in a screw. Then want it back so he could beat on things. he really seemed to be watching and trying to help.

Each time after I put a part on, he would grab and shake it like he was testing to see if I did it right.

don't think he is ready to learn welding yet!!!

So he is in QC

You might want to skip the welding bit... well at least for another month or two

Post by **Mud Dog** » Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:51 pm

Cute! Thanks Mark!

missouriman · Post by **missouriman** » Thu Sep 06, 2012 4:19 pm

baby girl due Oct. 8th

Post by **Family_Dog** » Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:55 pm

Mark, that's a weird mod to perform on the driveway...! ;)

But congratulations, I think this is your third such "mod"!

-F_D

missouriman · Post by **missouriman** » Thu Sep 06, 2012 7:20 pm

no baby girl will be the second..
remember the wife had.
cancer
chemo
radiation
stem cell replacement
jacob was supposed to be impossible.
now baby girl on the way.
her doctors don't know what to think.
she is the second women to conceive after thousands that have had this procedure.
now twice?? the doctors are very confused as to how this is happening.
we ran all the test there were to run on jacob.. he is fine.
we ran all the tests there is to run on baby girl and so far she is fine.
they do not know how this is possible... heck.. we only tried 3 times for baby girl... I thought It would be the same chances as with jacob.. impossible... but here she is on the way!!

missouriman · Post by **missouriman** » Thu Sep 06, 2012 7:25 pm

family dog,, maybe you should spend more time in the drive way!!!

Post by **Mud Dog** » Thu Sep 06, 2012 7:39 pm

Congratulations (so far) Mark and 'Better half'!! Hope that all goes smoothly!

Actually, Family_Dog spends too much time on his driveway ..... too many vehicles to keep in tip-top shape!!

Post by **Family_Dog** » Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:13 pm

Mud Dog wrote:Congratulations (so far) Mark and 'Better half'!! Hope that all goes smoothly!

Actually, Family_Dog spends too much time on his driveway ..... too many vehicles to keep in tip-top shape!!

'Tis true! I am now building my 6th garage (±34 sq metres) so I can free my driveway. ;)

Anyway Mark, we all wait in anticipation for the big day, you & the Mrs must be thrilled! :)

-F_D

Hilux 1 · Post by **Hilux 1** » Fri Sep 07, 2012 8:22 am

missouriman wrote:no baby girl will be the second..
remember the wife had.
cancer
chemo
radiation
stem cell replacement
jacob was supposed to be impossible.
now baby girl on the way.
her doctors don't know what to think.
she is the second women to conceive after thousands that have had this procedure.
now twice?? the doctors are very confused as to how this is happening.
we ran all the test there were to run on jacob.. he is fine.
we ran all the tests there is to run on baby girl and so far she is fine.
they do not know how this is possible... heck.. we only tried 3 times for baby girl... I thought It would be the same chances as with jacob.. impossible... but here she is on the way!!

There is only one GOD