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I fitted the longer shackles to Erics bakkie this afternoon. and it looks good

Here is the pin inserted into the polyurethane bushes. Do not worry Eric your bushes are still fine no need to replace them yet.

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Pins fitted in place

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Shackles installed

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The brace installed

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I used the middle holes this time and the lift is 10 mm less then using the outer holes

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The original measurements with the stock shackles were 780mm measured from the bottom of the rim to the wheel arch.

With the prototype set they were fitted on the outer holes and it measured 820mm which equated to 40mm lift. Now with the centre holes used the measurement is 810mm which equated to 30mm lift.
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Bennie, ek dink daai shackles lyk excellent. Jy sal maar 'n verspreidings shop moet opsit want ek dink die mense gaan jou besig hou met orders :)
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Benny,

Looks great! Can't wait to try it out and I'm sure Bulldog won't have that nose-high profile that he used to have.

It has just occurred to me that if I do fit 31" tyres all round, I will be approaching the limits of my garage door opening, I only had about 50-60mm (can't quite remember just exactly) clearance over the canopy in her standard form. Maybe I should flog the Cooper AT tyres now and go for 31" MT, either Cooper or Maxis. Bodylift is out of the question, not necessary for me.

I just have to ask :mrgreen: - what are those two "pipes" that are hanging down next to the shackles?
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Hi FD

Those "pipes" are infact the rear exhaust hanger hooks. There is suposed to be a rubber ring between there and ther rear of the exhaust they also apear to be a little bent in the pic.
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Aahhh... I wonder if they are used in Bulldog? I think the exhaust guys mad another mod, but I could be wrong.

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Eric. A Quick solution is to put a few 'streepsakke' filled with sand in the bak of your bakkie and everytime you want to get it in or out of the garage, hose them down. :twisted: :twisted:
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Not to fear Eric, they ae used, I had to unhook the k'zaust to get it out of my way for the spanners enol. They are hooked back in place now.
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Bennie dit lyk of jy die shukkles laat lazercut het.wat is die dikte van die plaat en is dit mildsteel?
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Eric, jy sal nou net 'n leer ook moet kry om te kan inklim!

Bennie, op ons bakkies is die shackles gebuig, hulle is breer bo as onder. Sal jou shackles dan op hulle ook werk?
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Johan

Ja dis 8mm mild steel Met die slim ouens gepraat en hulle reken hy moet eerder kan buig as wat hy gaan breek Die oorspronklikes is ook mild steel net baie dunner. Hulle reken 6mm is voldoende maar ek glo maar om eerder 'n bietjie te over engineer vir veiligheid. Die pins word van 8.8 graded staal gemaak.

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As jy my die binne mates kan gee van bo en onder kan ek en die ou wat die ingenieurs werk vir my doen bietjie gesels. Maar ons sal ook moet uitvind wat die deursnee van julle pins is, ek weet nie of dit dieselfde is as die SFA's sin nie.
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Waarom is daar gries nippels op die shafts? Bennie dit lyk stunning. My OMU shackels het 'n buig in, weet jy dalk hoekom? Kan jy shackels laat maak vir enige voertuig, naamlik Hilux IFS, Ford Courier en 'n Colt?

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Die nipples is om grease binnein tussen die pins en die bushes in te kry sonder om diie hele dink elkekeer te strip.

Ja jy vir my die mates kan gee van enige voertuig wat jy shakles voor benodig sal ek dit kan laat maak.

Dis moeilik om te se hoekom hulle gebuig het as ek nie kan sien hoe dit gebuig is nie,, maar wat ek al gesien het is dat as jou aste baie artikuleer is daar sywaardse spanning op maar gewoonlik is dit die vere wat buig. Anders het el al gesien op sekere voertuie soos safaris wat se voorste shackles voor die as sit dat hulle in die grond vassteek, en dan sal hulle ook seker kan buig. :?
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Bennie,k ek dink hy praat van dieselfde buig as waarvan ek praat. Ek het gaan kyk, Kobus se 1998, 2.4 SFA se shackles het ook daardie buig in, is breer bo as onder.
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Ek sal bietjie gaan loer.
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KZ het ook buig.
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Die afstand aan die binnekant tussen die brackets is 88mm bo en 68mm onder.
Het nie pin gemeet nie, is te veel werk om uit te haal.
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My question?
Why do yopu need, or want to, extend your shackles?

What is the problem?
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Harold wrote:My question?
Why do yopu need, or want to, extend your shackles?

What is the problem?
Longer shackles provide some suspension lift, a softer ride and better articulation as the wheels can drop further.
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Bennie ek kan nie onthou of dit in die forum was nie ,maar as ek 50mm lig sal die shocks nog reg wees of sal ek moet nuwes kry?Want ek het die kontakte om ander shukles te laat maak.En die buigwerk is nie n probleem nie,ek doen dit sommer by die werk.
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legend35 wrote:Bennie ek kan nie onthou of dit in die forum was nie ,maar as ek 50mm lig sal die shocks nog reg wees of sal ek moet nuwes kry?Want ek het die kontakte om ander shukles te laat maak.En die buigwerk is nie n probleem nie,ek doen dit sommer by die werk.
Eerstens gaan jy vrek lang shackles moet maak om 50mm te lig. Ons het uitgewerk jy kry ongeveer 10mm se lig vir 25mm se shakle lengte. Rakende die shocks, dis moeilik om te sê, dit sal afhang van jou huidige bladvere. As jou bladvere stock is en jou shocks ook sal ek reken dat jy langer gaan nodig hê maar in 'n bakkie wat reeds 'n lift kit in het behoort die shocks reeds langer te wees.

Die ander opsie is om jou shocks se boonste mountings te skuif nader na die middel van die voertuig toe. Dan kry mens meer travel uit dieselfde lengte shocks uit.

Oom Mac verduidelik bietjie weer vir die ouens hoe daai een werk :wink:
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Nee ek wil nie so baie lig as dit nie nodig is nie,maar dit lyk of my bakkie laer is agter en nie net myne nie maar meeste 2003 en 2004 modelle.ek wil nie graag die shock op sy limit vat nie.
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Anders moet ek die bladvere laat re-tension.hy hang bietjie links,het seker hard gewerk by die vorige eienaar.
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Ek persoonlik glo nie in retension van springs nie. Ek sal hulle eerder vervang met nuwe springs Die ouens by die spring plekke maak goeie springs teen redelike pryse (baie cheaper as OME/Ironman etc) en hulle gee ook gewoonlik 'n bietjie lift.
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Ek is ook maar skepties.skoonpa het dit voorgestel.hy het sy Frontier laat doen,maar hy doen nie 4x4 nie.
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EK het met die ou gepraat wat my masjien werk doen en ons sal die shackles kan maar met die buig in. Ek sal net eers een in die hande wou kry om behoorlik te meet en kry wat is die presiese grotes van daai shackles.
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Bennie were did you get those shackles from? and could you get a set just like the ones you fitted to bulldog for the front and rear? :?:
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I can make you ones for the rear. for the front i would not recommend going as long as in the rear since the angle on the prop shaft will become a bit much which can cause vibrations and premature failure. I will have to see how long the front ones can be extended safely before making longer ones up front.

My idea in the long run is to design a kit for upfront that will provide some lift and also relocate the axle forward to help with the problems of the rear wheels rubbing inside the wheel arches when you articulate fully while turning the steering. It is a bit more involved so that is why it will be a future project only.
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well dude when its done count me in on a set....
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Hi Bennie

Could you please give me the inside diameter of the shakle bush :?: :roll: I had the measurement and then I lost it :!: :(
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