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Het die ou simpel dakliggie seker 20 keer vervang.Seker die comminste ou dingetjie aan n Hilux,al is dit ook aan kan mens nog steeds niks in die nag met dit sien nie.Pluk toe my mo@r nouie oggend en ry af outozone toe.Koop vir my n LED nommerplaat liggie en monteer dit teen die bestaande ou liggie vas.Jislaaik kerels,nou moet ek n sonbril opsit as die dingetjie aangaan.Ek kan nie glo dat mens met n R100 so baie frustrasie uit die lewe kan haal nie.Ek deel die brokkie inligting met julle want dit het verseker my lewe baie vereenvoudig.Indien enige van julle hierdie mod oorweeg.....maak net gou want ek gaan die patent laat registreer.
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Hentey,

Daai klink na 'n blink plan!!! Sit so paar prenties op vir die mense wat nie mooi kan lees nie..... :lol: :lol: :lol:
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I also have problems with my interior light.

I found this:

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Stephen, I am not so sure those will fit. The Hilux interior light is a bit shorter than 4.2cm. Will have to take mine out and measure it, I would prefer going LED anytime.


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Hentey have you got a fix for the reverse lights? My SFA's reverse lights are useless!
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Fit rear mounted spots, Bretton, but connect then to a switch with a LED in the toggle or with an indicator light to show when they are on. Left mine on by mistake once ... drained the battery in ½ an hour. :wink:
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drained the battery in ½ an hour
You should have fitted a LED spotlight :wink:
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OOOOMS wrote:
drained the battery in ½ an hour
You should have fitted a LED spotlight :wink:
LED torches hadn't even been invented yet when I fitted those spots! :D: :D:
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Family_Dog wrote:Stephen, I am not so sure those will fit. The Hilux interior light is a bit shorter than 4.2cm. Will have to take mine out and measure it, I would prefer going LED anytime.


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I was going to check the length on the weekend, I have been through a few bulbs in the past 2 years, the bulb in there at the moment doesn't seem to make proper contact, if I move it slightly it works again for a few days.
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Stephen, I don't know about the IFS and later trucks but i do know that those globes won't fit the SFA if anyone is thinking of getting one.

The SFA has a medium globe that most spares places don't even stock :thumbdown:
Of course those with SFAs could always change the fitting with a later model :thumbup:
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That is a common fault with them. A bit of electrical Contact Cleaner usually sorts it out, with some light sanding on the globe contacts with very fine grit water-paper. But the standard globes are only 3W, the LED globes, if they can be made to fit, would be much brighter and consume far less current.


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Family_Dog wrote:That is a common fault with them. A bit of electrical Contact Cleaner usually sorts it out, with some light sanding on the globe contacts with very fine grit water-paper. But the standard globes are only 3W, the LED globes, if they can be made to fit, would be much brighter and consume far less current.


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Just an update, i replaced my interior cab and canopy lights with LED, will get some pics, but the cab light makes a big difference. I also got a work light on the back and replaced that globe with an H3 LED, It is not as bright as the std 55w globe, but in darkness provides enough light and does not run the battery down if left on. I took a few pictures and have attached the ones that best represent the light it throws out. Would be nice to have one of each on seperate switches!
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This is my R13.00 solution to the cablight problem
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pietpetoors wrote:This is my R13.00 solution to the cablight problem
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pietpetoors wrote:This is my R13.00 solution to the cablight problem
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See http://www.hilux4x4.co.za/LED-interior-light/index.php for the full story.

I am not keen on drilling holes in the light cover surely there is enough space inside to fit the LED's?
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I am not keen on drilling holes in the light cover surely there is enough space inside to fit the LED's?
There will be enough space yes, I just thought that the cover will defuse the LED light too much and that is why I drilled the holes. Perhaps I should take them out and just let them lie inside and see how bright they are then, will let you know.
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Contact AndyF on the 4x4 community forum he supplies a large range of LED bulbs and products


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Interior LED Festoon smd fitted.
Got the flat pannel one for 'directional' light, apposed to the one that has led's all the way round
MUCH brighter and whiter
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Warren is that off the shelf available or did you manifacture it yourself?Looks like I should have asked first and then acted.Where did you buy it?Looks like the answer! :thumbup:
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Got my sister in the UK to get it, about R11.00
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This looks like a worthy "upgrade". Warren, do you have a part number for it, perhaps we can initiate a group buy on this and share the postage. Should fit SFA and IFS, both of which have the short festoon bulb. Not sure what the newer Lux's use.


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Hi Eric,
She got them off ebay, Hong Kong by the looks of it.
I ordered the 6LED, but the 8 arrived, slightly too big but fits at a slight angle. I would suggest the 6.
Think the KZTE is a 31mm? will look for the pakage, think i kept it for the old bulb.
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This looks like a worthy "upgrade". Warren, do you have a part number for it, perhaps we can initiate a group buy on this and share the postage. Should fit SFA and IFS, both of which have the short festoon bulb. Not sure what the newer Lux's use.
That will be great. :thumbup:
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I checked the length it is 31mm and my bulb has blown again :evil:

I see a 31mm is available(expensive for what it is?)

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Saturday I went to Yebo electronics, bought a few hi-bright white leds, 2 pieces of strip board... and a few 5.5 ohm resistors...

Made a new interior light(4 leds), as well as 2 reverse lights(6 leds/8 leds)... I'll post pics later... the only issue I have is that the led light is sort of stark cold blue white... it looks better when its warmer... I'll probably add a layer of yellow/orange gel filter plastic to warm it up a bit!

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Pehaps ou should add one yellow LED for the tint
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Pieter, yes I did think of this option, I'm just not too keen on replacing LEDs... the trackboard 'tracks' are rather thin... it's easy to land up joining 2 tracks with solder... and then it becomes a pain to clean/separate... unless you got one of those solder sucker goodies and a 'third hand' tool...
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The guy at Yebo told me it is better to put the LEDs in parrallel with resistors, rather than using 4 in series to get the volts right... hence the use of stripboard and the 5.5 ohm resistor per LED...

Here are the pics...
First I did the interior light version... 4 leds... had to remove the steel back plate on the holder, to better fit the board...
First I did the interior light version... 4 leds... had to remove the steel back plate on the holder, to better fit the board...
For the reverse lights I built a 6 LED prototype, worked well, but the led light is very direct, so bending the leds is useful, 2nd version used 8 leds, which could be bent to spread the light a little...
For the reverse lights I built a 6 LED prototype, worked well, but the led light is very direct, so bending the leds is useful, 2nd version used 8 leds, which could be bent to spread the light a little...
Compared to the std incandescent light, left, it's alot brighter... LED's right...
Compared to the std incandescent light, left, it's alot brighter... LED's right...
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A close up of the 6 led reverse light version, I made a mistake by soldering the leds flush on the stripboard, making bending the leds to 'spread' the light impossible... this I corrected on the 8 led version...
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Lekker as mens slim is....Well done Mr B
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I'll make you some Trevor... and you make me a rear bumper... I'll pay the post for yours... you pay the postage for mine... :twisted:

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Bretton, the 5.6 Ohm resistor seems to be very small. I don't know what the specs on those LEDs are, but they would probably require a voltage drop of some 10v minimum to be absorbed by the resistor, and there current rating is what, say 30mA? Therefore, 10/.03 = 333 Ohms, which sounds better to me but still a bit on the hairy side. Do you have the specs on the LEDs at all? In practise, I would probably use a 470 - 560 Ohm resistor, but that is for the older type LED, I have not yet looked up the voltage & current requirements of the new super-cooper bright white LEDs but somehow wonder if its rated at such a high voltage that they work with such a small resistor. The colour code of the resistor is green - blue - black - black, isn't it?


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I have not yet looked up the voltage & current requirements of the new super-cooper bright white LEDs
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Water clear package. Luminous intensity 10cd typical at IF = 20mA. The cathode is the short lead.

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Thanks Jaco! So allowing for, say, 10.2 voltage drop (13.8 - 3.6) and dividing by .02, we should then use a 510 Ohm resistor, or preferred value of 560 Ohm. Your LEDs are not going to last with 5.6 ohm resistors, Mr. B...

Resistor colour code: green - blue - brown - black will suffice.


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I went to Yebo Electronics Plumstead yesterday, I ended up buying a Power LED 1W Star type and 470ohm resistor.Sales guy reckoned this one is equivilent of 10 normal LED's.Cost R 38
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Thanks guys... me not being a electronics junkie, I had to take the advice of the electronics guru at Yebo... I told him the supply voltage could be anything for 13.5V to 14.4v... he whipped out a calc and said I need a 560ohm resistor per LED is parallel... and thats exactly what I did... next time I might use a power led as well... only concern I have is it's angle of illumination... as a std. LEDs angle is pretty narrow... it's not too expensive to experiment... thanks Eric, next time I wire up another circuit I'll use your advice!
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Perhaps this is a better solution
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will post some pics of the one I fitted must say it is impressive
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The ones I installed this week. The brightness is awesome in comparison to the old globes. :goodjob:
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Those look really cool, where did you get them Niel, and how much moola??
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Niel, did you fit both of them? :haha:
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Nieal,waar het jy daai liggie gekry?
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Wolweseun wrote:Contact AndyF on the 4x4 community forum he supplies a large range of LED bulbs and products


http://www.4x4community.co.za/forum/sho ... 148&page=2" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.4x4community.co.za/forum/member.php?u=2020" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Unfortunately he has not seen the light and still drives a Land Rover :wink:
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I bought it from Andy and he can be contacted on zero 84 5 two 843 six 8. Pls do mention that you are from the hilux forum. Thanks Craig :thumbup:
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pietpetoors wrote:Niel, did you fit both of them?
Pieter, yes one in the car and the other in ther hilux but i will help you if you haak vas :twisted: :haha:
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OK, I received my dome lights.
I went for the ones with 15 LEDs because the smaller board will fit in most dome lights.
To compensate for the smaller board i opted for the 5mm LEDs instead of the 3mm LEDs most shops sell.

I installed one in the Tazz, it really takes 2 minutes. You remove the globe, replace it with the globe fitting, stick the board to the dome light fitting (it comes with double sided tape on the back), replace the lens cover and you are done.

I added it to the shop at http://www.hilux4x4.co.za/theshop/index ... ucts_id=52 at R60.00 each

I can also think of many other uses for it besides the dome light, If I had this last week i would have rather put this in the canopy's kitchen than the LED strip I used, the square thing would fit better.
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Niel pointed out to me that some vehicles have limited space between the globe fitting and cover.
This one did go into the Tazz as a tight fit but the cover still closed properly.

The thickness of the board including the double sided tape is 5mm
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Lyk baie goed :thumbup: Het jy al een in die bakkie gesit?
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Ek het mos laas die gewone LEDs in die doppie ingesit en die drade sommer aan die kontakpunte vas soldeer.
Dus kan ek nie nou die lamphouer gebruik nie, ek sal eers daai klomp soldeersel moet gaan afhaal. Sal dit seker later vandag doen.
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Om jou idee te gee hoe helder hierdie liggies is, in baie huise het ons mos daardie ingeboude spotlights wat gewoonlik 'n 50w gloeilamp het. Ek het van hulle ook hier wat ek toets wat 18 LED het, die 18 LED skein veel sterker as 'n 50w gloeilamp. 18LED is 2.7 watt. Hierdie dakliggie het 15 LEDs, dit is dus so goed soos jy sit een van daardie 50watt spot lights in jou kar. Die LED se ligverspreiding is net baie beter as die van 'n gewone ou tungsten liggie.
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Dit lyk baie goed, Piet.
Swartvark se dakligdop is al wit en gekraak, so ek sal maar 'n nuwe dop ook moet kry. Ek wonder of Midas dit sal aanhou.
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Daai LED werk vlippen goed :thumbup:
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thanx for mine.They work great :thumbup: Easy to install
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Het hy maklik gepas George
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pietpetoors wrote:Het hy maklik gepas George
Daar is baie spasie.Ek het hom net nie lekker geplak gekry nie.Daar is nie baie kontak area nie.
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george wrote:
pietpetoors wrote:Het hy maklik gepas George
Daar is baie spasie.Ek het hom net nie lekker geplak gekry nie.Daar is nie baie kontak area nie.
Ek het myne ook dwars gedraa nou sit hy lekker. :thumbup: Het 'n blond oomblik gehad :shifty:
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george wrote:
george wrote:
pietpetoors wrote:Het hy maklik gepas George
Daar is baie spasie.Ek het hom net nie lekker geplak gekry nie.Daar is nie baie kontak area nie.
Ek het myne ook dwars gedraa nou sit hy lekker. :thumbup: Het 'n blond oomblik gehad :shifty:
Nou weer gekyk dit werk rerig goed.Dit gaan lekker in die karavaan ook werk
Maar hoe gaan jy jou bakkie in die karavaan kry?! :wth: :twisted:
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Maar hoe gaan jy jou bakkie in die karavaan kry?!
Met moeite :twisted:
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george wrote:
Maar hoe gaan jy jou bakkie in die karavaan kry?!
Met moeite :twisted:
Solank dit nie met geweld is nie :twisted: :twisted:
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