Wheel Spacers

[Johannes van die See]

Kan iemand dalk help met nodige informasie.

Ek wil "Wheel Spacers" van oorsee bestel maar voordat ek voortgaan wil ek seker maak dat die afmetings reg is en die spacers sal pas op my 2002 IFS 4x4 Hilux hubs.

Ek is nie tans by die huis om self die afmetings te meet nie, wat ek benodig is die afmeting tussen teenoorgestelde studs asook die middel gat se deursnee.
Hierdie spacers word vervaardig vir n reeks voertuie in Amerika, naamlik....
- 1980-Up 4 Runner (w/o Locking Hubs)
- 1995-Up Tacoma 4WD (w/o Locking Hubs)
- 2000-2006 Tundra
- 1993-1998 T100 (w/o Locking Hubs)
- 2007-Up FJ Cruiser

- waarvan die Tacoma 4WD soortgelyk is aan ons Hilux lories.

Teen n prys van $99.95 vir n stel van 2 is dit nie sleg nie, het al my huiswerk gedoen en dit is veel duurder om aan te koop in RSA. Die Nissan Navara manne het R2750 per spacer betaal en n ander vervaardiger in SA het my R1400 per itmen gevra.

As iemand weet van n beter prys laatweet asb, anders gaan ek voort om die blou stel in te voer.

Enige hulp sal waardeer word.

Dankie

[Mud Dog]

Om watter rede wil jy nou daai goed opsit? :wth: Na my mening en ervaaring is dit geld mors .... die wheel bearings gaan exponensieël gestraf word en sal baie vinniger uitgee ... wat nog meer geld sal kos en ook nie 'n maklike job is nie. Praat met manne wat dit al gedoen het en dan nog meer as 60 000 km gery voordat hulle die voortuig verkoop het. Kry eerder breër rims met 'n klein offset en breër bande ... ook nie goed nie maar nie so sleg as spacers nie. Dit mag miskien 'cool' lyk maar jy sal dit beslis berou as jy dit doen. M2CW

[rebuilder]

I agree not a good idea. Ive done it before and had wheel bearing problems within 2000 kms. and those were new ones I had fitted when the spacers where fitted.

[conversion man]

n Wiel met n kleiner offset of n groter offset en n spacer het dieselfde effek op die wiel bearing ( teken dit op cad en kyk self ) en specers soos daai maak ek vir minder as jou 99 DOLLAR vir 2 want saam met in voer en al daai kos dit jou nie net die = - sewe rand iets per dollar nie .Kontak die ouens by PAYPAL en vind uit .

[Mud Dog]

An offset rim of the same width as one that is equally spaced amounts to the same thing and the same additional forces on the bearings. But, ...

Kry eerder breër rims met 'n klein offset en breër bande

... A wider rim compensates inward for some of the offset and the undue forces on the bearings is a little less. Either way, it's not a good idea in my opinion unless the offset is small and then there is very little or no real benefit IRO both the aesthetics and the broadening of the wheelbase which in turn lowers the COG. Spacers were initially used for track sport vehicles, not for the looks but to broaden the wheel base. These vehicles were forever maintained and prepared for track meetings and replacement of wheel bearings every now and so often was just a part of the whole exercise and a "by the way" cost addition. Naturally, track sport vehicles take a bigger hammering than daily runners, but the running hours and mileage is vastly less, and even so the spacers take their toll on the bearings. Maybe it'll be OK if you want to enter competitions and fit then for the duration of the event only.

Like I said, speak to a few more guys that have had the experience before you decide to do this.

[Johannes van die See]

Okay hier is my mening.......

Eerstens, mens hoor die waarskuwings oor wheel bearing probleme, maar ek't nognooit persoonlik iemand raak geloop wat my daarteen kon waarsku nie.
Twedens, al die manne wat so doenig is met die "Arctic Truck" conversions, hoekom neem hulle nie die probleem meer ernstig in ag wanneer hulle die 38" en 44" wiele opsit nie?

Om daai wiel te maak pas moet jy n reeks modifikasies deurgaan en een van hulle is die wheel spacers.... jip, dit is my doelwit, stadig maar seker berei ek my voor om die modifikasie self te doen, die informasie i.v.m. wheel spacers is maar deel van my huiswerk.

Fana, uit eindelik n man wat my n beter prys kan gee.......
Klink of jy ondervinding het met die spacers en die sogenaamde "bearing" probleme, kan jy my meer inligting gee en dan ook n prys vir die vervaardiging van n stel van die spacer asb, dit is vir my 2002 IFS Hilux 4x4.
Inligting oor die materiaal wat gebruik word sal ook behulpsaam wees, dankie.

Andy/Chris
Thanks vir julle input, my groot tjoma, (mechanic by Toyota) het my ook al gewaarsku, maar ek het al soveel ander conversions gedoen waarme ek hom verkeerd bewys het.
Ek gebruik my Hilux net vir plesier, en plesier kom nie altyd goedkoop nie, so ek is bereid om die bearing probleem n toets te gee.
Glo my, as daar probleme kom sal ek weer hier trugvoering gee met eerste handse ondervinding.

Groete

[Johannes van die See]

An offset rim of the same width as one that is equally spaced amounts to the same thing and the same additional forces on the bearings. But, ...

Kry eerder breër rims met 'n klein offset en breër bande

... A wider rim compensates inward for some of the offset and the undue forces on the bearings is a little less. Either way, it's not a good idea in my opinion unless the offset is small and then there is very little or no real benefit IRO both the aesthetics and the broadening of the wheelbase which in turn lowers the COG. Spacers were initially used for track sport vehicles, not for the looks but to broaden the wheel base. These vehicles were forever maintained and prepared for track meetings and replacement of wheel bearings every now and so often was just a part of the whole exercise and a "by the way" cost addition. Naturally, track sport vehicles take a bigger hammering than daily runners, but the running hours and mileage is vastly less, and even so the spacers take their toll on the bearings. Maybe it'll be OK if you want to enter competitions and fit then for the duration of the event only.

Like I said, speak to a few more guys that have had the experience before you decide to do this.

Andy

Okay jy noem n paar dinge wat sin maak, dankie vir jou informasie, ek sal die draad dop hou vir meer trugvoering van manne met die ondervinding, dankie vir jou raad.

Lekker naweek

[Johannes van die See]

Soos julle nou weet is ek besig met beplanning vir n reeks modifikasies om die "Arctic Truck" look te bereik, deel van my beplanning is ook die ondersoek in "Ball Joint Spacers", "Diff Drop", en "Sway Bar Drop" modifikasies.
Die onderwerp is in besprekeing by die volgende draad.

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Julle kennis en ondervinding met betrekking tot die onderwerp sal ook van hulp kan wees...

Dankie

[legend35]

Sal ook eerder n wyer rim opsit.Spacers maak die stuurwiel baie sensetief.

[swartvark]

[*]Ek gebruik my Hilux net vir plesier, en plesier kom nie altyd goedkoop nie, so ek is bereid om die bearing probleem n toets te gee.[*]

Johan.....JUST DO IT
As jou woorde hierbo in ag geneem word is daar geen rede om verder te worry nie. Fana ken sy storie en jou wa gaan cool lyk.

[rebuilder]

My wheel spacers cost me R450 for both. If you want I can show you pics of what mine looked like. Just remember that on the IFS toyota it has a gearmax diff usually and you would have to make extra plans on securing the rear bearings that if they fail or start floating under the extra strain you could lose a wheel with side shaft if it pulls out while driving.

[Johannes van die See]

My wheel spacers cost me R450 for both. If you want I can show you pics of what mine looked like. Just remember that on the IFS toyota it has a gearmax diff usually and you would have to make extra plans on securing the rear bearings that if they fail or start floating under the extra strain you could lose a wheel with side shaft if it pulls out while driving.

fotos asb........

Did you make extra plans to secure "rear bearings"? if so, please explain and post some picks.

[rebuilder]

Not at home till later this week then I will load the pics and explain the setup.

[Johannes van die See]

Not at home till later this week then I will load the pics and explain the setup.

Cheers thanks......

[Piesang]

al die manne wat so doenig is met die "Arctic Truck" conversions, hoekom neem hulle nie die probleem meer ernstig in ag wanneer hulle die 38" en 44" wiele opsit nie?

Om daai wiel te maak pas moet jy n reeks modifikasies deurgaan en een van hulle is die wheel spacers

Ek was onder die indruk hul vervang die aste met sterker aste wat daai vrag kan vat.

[Mr_B]

I think Pieter is right... probably use a heavy duty truck axle... something like a Dana 60...

[Johannes van die See]

I think Pieter is right... probably use a heavy duty truck axle... something like a Dana 60...

I remember way back I saw a mod discusion about heavy duty IFS axles, cant remember what it was called, it's a mod done specificaly for Hilux bakkies with front lockers.

[conversion man]

The spacers I make are made from ally like in the photo s with studs and a nother set of holes countersunk for the originale bolts to hold it to the hubs . Contact me on 0837521655 for a price .I can also help with the bolljoint spacers

[Johannes van die See]

The spacers I make are made from ally like in the photo s with studs and a nother set of holes countersunk for the originale bolts to hold it to the hubs . Contact me on 0837521655 for a price .I can also help with the bolljoint spacers

Sorry buddy, can't phone you, I'm at sea, 2400 Nautical Miles NW off Cape Point, we'll have to communicate via PM or
email, I would like to get a price for wheel spacers, balljoint lift spacers, front diff drop spacers, and sway bar drop spacers, please. PM me or email at johannes.vdmerwe@gmail.com

Thanks

[Family_Dog]

Johannes, I can't work out how you are going to use this all at sea... :mrgeen: :mrgeen: :mrgeen:

Isn't the ship/oil rig/whatever fitted with stabilsers?


-F_D

[Johannes van die See]

Johannes, I can't work out how you are going to use this all at sea... :mrgeen: :mrgeen: :mrgeen:

Isn't the ship/oil rig/whatever fitted with stabilsers?


-F_D

Lol, die skuit woorop ek is het n hull so plat soos Tafelberg, die see skommel hom sommer lekke....
Die manne wat nie n yster pens het nie is op n instant dieet........

[Family_Dog]

Johannes, gooi 'n paar fotos van jou huidge huis op die water, asb!


-F_D

[Johannes van die See]

Johannes, gooi 'n paar fotos van jou huidge huis op die water, asb!


-F_D

Ek maak so oom, weet nogie in watse onderwerp ek dit sal gooi nie maar kyk maar rond......

[Johannes van die See]

Johannes, gooi 'n paar fotos van jou huidge huis op die water, asb!


-F_D

Okay oom, hier is die link....
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[Family_Dog]

Het dit gesien, dankie!

Ek maak so oom, weet nogie in watse onderwerp ek dit sal gooi nie maar kyk maar rond......

"Other Vehicles".... "Member's Vehicles"...


-F_D

[rebuilder]

Hello
Sorry, only got home yesterday from the trip. Will load pics tonight.

[Johannes van die See]

Cheers Thanks!

[Uys]

http://www.maugene.co.za" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; for wheel spacers

[Traveler]

http://www.maugene.co.za for wheel spacers

Thanks Uys.

[rebuilder]

Sorry I have not posted it yet. Cant get the pics loaded from the camra. The camra wont switch from taking pics to viewing them. I checked and was mixed up. The local gearmax diff doesnt need the conversion :alvarin: for the bearings its the import one that does. So you should be ok if you have the gearmax axle. Just get the spacers done professionally so they nicely balanced. will load pics when I get the camra fixed.

[Johannes van die See]

.......you should be ok if you have the gearmax axle. Just get the spacers done professionally so they nicely balanced. will load pics when I get the camra fixed.

Cheers Chris, Thanks, how do I know if I have a gearmax diff in or not?

[OOOOMS]

.......you should be ok if you have the gearmax axle. Just get the spacers done professionally so they nicely balanced. will load pics when I get the camra fixed.

Cheers Chris, Thanks, how do I know if I have a gearmax diff in or not?

It should say so on the back plate 'gearmax'

[Johannes van die See]

Cool
Dankie oom, ek sal maar kyk as ek eendag by die huis aankom.

[swifty]

Gearmax diff has a removable backplate held by 9 screws. The import diff is solid without a backplate.