SUSPENSION UPGRADE

Discuss modifications on your new shape Hilux here. 2005 till current. Also called the Vigo in other countries.
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Thu Aug 30, 2012 4:03 pm

Wil graag suspension doen. Hoe meer ek lees op die forum en op die net hoe minder weet ek wat ek moet doen.

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Old Man Emu! My 6 de ervaring en sal nooit verander nie. Ek het 600kg vere agter in maar ek het amper 500kg ekstra wat ek permanent saamdra.

Kyk ook na EFS. Google ONCA 4x4 en praat met Len. Sal nie spyt wees nie. Goedkoop koop is duur koop op die einde van die dag.
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Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:24 am

Ek sal ook se OME, dalk miskien Mikem, maar is nou brand biased, so het OME gekies. EFS lyk nie bad nie, maar het geen ondervinding met hulle nie, het sover net goeie goed gehoor... Shop maar rond en vra vir discount. Maak net seker jy vat die heavy duty springs as jy gaan swaar laai...Ek het vol suspensie gegaan en 60mm voor en 80mm agter gelig. Nou sit die 31" BFG's gemaklik onder die bak.
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Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:29 am

Ek het eers Mikem op my 2011 DC gehad....op minder as 10 000km 'n katastrofiese faling op die Bilstein skokbreker....dit word my toe meegedeel deur Darryl en sy pa by Mikem dat (1) die Bilstein skokbreker slegs 'n 100mm slag (stroke) het, (2) die gewig van die bullbar and winch 'teveel' is vir die skokbreker, (3) dat 'enige aftermarket' skokbreker die dra vermoe van Toyota OE ontwerp gaan oosrkry...dis nou al na hulle die hele suspension, plus spacers ens gedoen het!!!! Cherry o pdie koek is dat ek self al die revovery (tow-in) kostes moes dra en omternt 'n maand wag sodat hulle hul nonsens stories agter mekaar kon kry. Daar is ten minste nog 3 Hiluxe daar buite wat dieselfde potensiele falings kan oorkom en wat nog van geen sout of water weet nie

Ek is dus, met 'n ma-se verlies, gedwing om die feitlik nuwe Mikem suspension vervang...het o pdie ou einde EFS opgesit!!! Geen spacers of enigiets is nodig nie!! In my opnie baie beter werkverrigting...doen gereeld lang grondpad trips (en ek looi die bussie....).

Daarbenewens is Len-hulle (by ONCA) se diens en nasorg uit die boonste rakke!!! Verskriklik gawe mense en billik geprys daarby.

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Thu Sep 06, 2012 7:18 pm

Hi Guys.
Tjokkie is right my suspension was good until he fitted the spacers on top of it which then caused the shock to break.
1)I replaced the shocks both sides at my expense
2)Replaced cv boot etc.
3)Finally gave him his money back in full with my suspension in his vehicle still which he promised my dad he would then return our goods after he fits the EFS.
4)Then sent a sms to tell me hes selling the goods for his expenses.Which he did.Theoretically it was not his and sold it for spare change.
So Rikus well done you put it out there how you do business and personally i tried my best.To now slag me off shows your true colurs pal.
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Thu Sep 06, 2012 7:33 pm

Mikem1 wrote:Hi Guys.
Tjokkie is right my suspension was good until he fitted the spacers on top of it which then caused the shock to break.
1)I replaced the shocks both sides at my expense
2)Replaced cv boot etc.
3)Finally gave him his money back in full with my suspension in his vehicle still which he promised my dad he would then return our goods after he fits the EFS.
4)Then sent a sms to tell me hes selling the goods for his expenses.Which he did.Theoretically it was not his and sold it for spare change.
So Rikus well done you put it out there how you do business and personally i tried my best.To now slag me off shows your true colurs pal.
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Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:32 am

Please guys, I do not care what other say. DO NOT FIT ANY SPACER MORE THAN 10MM ON TOP OF ANY HILUX VIGO FRONT STRUT ASSEMBLY WITH ANY AFTERMARKET SUSPENSION, YOU WILL BREAK SOMETHING. BEEN THERE DONE IT.

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Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:10 am

To come to Darrell's defence. In all the years I owned Bolt(SFA), I had nothing by excellent service for Mikem! Bolt had an OME suspension fitted, which I mod'd with various Mikem parts like extended shackles, bushes, inter blade spacers and anti friction pads. When Darrell supplied me the wrong front shackles, he personally delivered the correct parts to my residence. Who does that? Hoppy yes... but it's rare in this day and age!

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Fri Sep 07, 2012 2:07 pm

4x4megaworldpta wrote:Please guys, I do not care what other say. DO NOT FIT ANY SPACER MORE THAN 10MM ON TOP OF ANY HILUX VIGO FRONT STRUT ASSEMBLY WITH ANY AFTERMARKET SUSPENSION, YOU WILL BREAK SOMETHING. BEEN THERE DONE IT.
Is this statement only valid for Aftermarker Suspension ?, What 20mm spacer on a standard suspension?
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Fri Sep 07, 2012 2:23 pm

Herman, mens kan dit Std nog doen, 20mm sal fine wees. Ons noem dit op aftermarket suspensies wat al klaar 40-50mm lig van nuut, dan sit ouens nog 20-50mm spacers op wat die druk op die shocks se bushes onnodig hoog maak en dan fail die bushes of breek selfs. ook jou sideshaft angles vererg so dat die breek. Ek sal nie dit noem om snaaks te wees nie, maar net nuttige inligting om onodige kostes en skade te verhoed.

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Sat Sep 08, 2012 7:32 am

Dankie Louis , ek het nie geweet die aftermarkets het alreeds so baie spacers in nie!
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Sat Sep 08, 2012 11:28 am

Aftermarket suspensions gee liewers 'n extra half draai of draai om 40-50mm lift te kan gee, met ander woorde die coil word langer as die std coil. Spacers is nie deel van so suspensie. Sommige gebruik partykeer trim packs van 5mm elk om enige links na regs verskille op te maak om die voertuig gelyk te kry, daar maks sal dit wees 2, in uiters gevalle 3 maaar nooit meer.

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Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:08 pm

Menere, julle maak dit nou nie maklik nie. Ek is ook in die mark vir n upgrade. Maar heng gn mens
weet waarvoor om te gaan as jul met hom klaar is!'

Niemand noem ironman nie. OME al baie van gehoor. Mikem? nog nie. EFS ook nie.

Seker maar te groen vir jul harde baarde

Laat weet maar wat dink julle

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Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:59 pm

Ek gaan EFS doen einde van die maand, nog net goeie dinge gehoor van hulle en sover het hulle my ook die beste pryse gegee van almal.

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Thu Oct 04, 2012 1:29 pm

Ek hou ook van die Ironman. Maar wat van TJM. Wat is die werklike verskil tussen almal. Kry jy slegte suspensies, of slegte opstellings? :tease:

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Thu Oct 04, 2012 1:42 pm

Eerlikwaar weet ek ook nie, ek kyk na prys en aanbevelings.

EFS het die beste prys en aanbevelings.

Kwotasies wat ek gekry het was (uit geheue uit, so moet my nie kruisig as ek verkeerd is nie)
EFS = R15500 - nuwe tegnologie in skokbrekers - of so se hulle..
Mikem = R18000 of daar rond
TJM = R18800
OME = R21000 met greasable shackles.
Stel nie belang in Ironman nie..

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Thu Oct 04, 2012 1:45 pm

Ek het OME in my d/cab, ek is baie gelukkig met hulle. Maar as ek ander MOET insit dink ek sal ek gaan vir die EFS.

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Thu Oct 04, 2012 1:46 pm

Bygese, die enigste rede hoekom ek moet suspension upgrade doen is omdat daar &^$$%## spacers voor in is om die TJM bullbar te kan hanteer. Nou het my agterste bladvere platgeval en die bakkie ry &^%^%$ hard, voor en agter - agter hang die bakkie ook verskriklik, of dit nou die fout was van die spacers of nie, ek sal nie weet nie...maar ek is nie gelukkig soos hy nou is nie.

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Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:10 pm

OME al die pad! Ek sal nie Ironman of TJM eers oorweeg nie. Gesels met Louis by 4x4 Megaworld Menlyn, hy sal jou n goeie prys en advies gee.
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Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:31 pm

IhanvanVuuren wrote:Ek hou ook van die Ironman. Maar wat van TJM. Wat is die werklike verskil tussen almal. Kry jy slegte suspensies, of slegte opstellings? :tease:
Kyk uit vir Frederick hier op die forum, hy het 'n mooi TJM suspensie wat hy wil verkoop.
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Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:31 pm

Ek het my Mikem suspensie nou amper 2 jaar en het nog nie n dag se moeilikheid gehad nie. Ek het gegaan met die Gabriel Safari skokbreekers omdat hulle my sak beter gepas het. Ek het al n paar trials gery en almal is altyd verbaas hoe my bakkie ry. Self waar die ouens met diff-lock sukkel kom ek gemaklik deur weens die goeie artikilasie, jy moet regtig deur n helse axle twister gaan voor die wiele van die ground af lug. As ek ooit weer n nuwe suspensie koop sal dit sonder twyfel MIKEM wees. Darrel het n puik produk en ongelooflike goeie klientediens.

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Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:34 am

Ek het gekyk na EFS en begin nou weer twyfel. Ek MOET suspensie doen, nie omdat ek wil nie, so vir my maak dit n verskil.

Ek het opgelees oor die "nuwe" Gabriel Safari HDP skokbrekers en dit lyk vir my na n goeie skokbreker teen n baie goeie prys in vergelyking met die ander make. Ek dink ek gaan hulle opsit. Vir die bladvere en coils kan ek by East Rand Spring works weg kom teen n baie goeie prys. In totaal kyk ek na omtrent R8-9k vir nuwe bladvere, coils en skokbrekers. Dit sal my 2 duim lift ook gee (die HDP's is ook verstelbaar tot op 50mm)

Ek kan ook gaan vir Mikem bladvere en coils en HDP skokbrekers vir bietjie meer, maar soos die mense altyd se: "is goedoop duur koop?". Ek doen nie baie 4x4 nie, maar sal wel Namibie en Botswana en so aan besoek op hengeluitstappies.

Wat dink julle manne daarvan? Teen 50% van die prys van enige Aussie maak, maak dit regtig so groot verskil? Ek hou van die idee om plaaslike make te gebruik, as n Gabriel skokbreker breek enige plek in S.A, gaan ek net na die naaste Supaquick/Autozone/Midas/Conti Partner toe en vervang hom.

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Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:59 am

Dewald Posthumus wrote:Bygese, die enigste rede hoekom ek moet suspension upgrade doen is omdat daar &^$$%## spacers voor in is om die TJM bullbar te kan hanteer. Nou het my agterste bladvere platgeval en die bakkie ry &^%^%$ hard, voor en agter - agter hang die bakkie ook verskriklik, of dit nou die fout was van die spacers of nie, ek sal nie weet nie...maar ek is nie gelukkig soos hy nou is nie.
Spacers werk ongelukking net as die Bakkie nie gewig op het voor nie. Anders hou dit nie lank.

Dan op shocks. Hoe is hulle gemaak, waar is hulle gemaak, doen dit werklik wat hulle se dit moet doen? Wie doen rerig enige navorsing op die ontwikkeling daarvan, is daar darem meer as een keuse op shocks op 1 voertuig? Gebruik hulle een shock vir aplikasie oor 3 of meer verskillende modelle/vervaardigers of selfs gebruik hulle net een shock vir gewig aplikasies.

Die 12de Nov gaan daar toetse gedoen word op 5 wel bekende Aus shocks deur 'n 3de party, die gaan dan seker so maand of so later bekend word. Die een toets gaan hulle kyk of hulle 6 shocks per maak gelyktydig deur 200000 op en af siklusse sit en herhaal per maak.
Ek dink dit sal interesant wees.

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Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:16 am

I also need suspensions for both my Hiluxes and appreciate every bodies input as to what to buy and suggestions, at the end of the day that is what we want.
Please guys can we do so without personally taking someone on and braking him or his business down. Rather make a suggestion of what you like and what not without throwing mud. M2CW
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Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:02 pm

I have Camel suspension all round and it eats up the Transkei roads, I love it. Tried the roads without the upgrade and could feel how hard the Transkei roads are on standard suspensions, and am sure in a couple of days your bakkie would fall apart.

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Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:41 pm

Visited Darrel at Mikem yesterday to fit Mikem suspension to my BIL's Fortuner. I was absolutely shocked to see that the Fortuner shocks were totally worn after only 25000km's. One of each (front and rear) were totally shot, you could compress the shock fully and then it would take around 2 minutes for the shocks to extend back to normal again.

Obviously the before and after results were chalk and cheese. I know this has been said before, but Darrel knows his stuff. My Hilux is booked for when he returns from leave!

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Mon Dec 31, 2012 4:12 pm

I have fitted iron man suspension (2012 hilux dc 4x4 4.0), was the best price I could get. Rear has 400 kg constant blades. A mate of mine runs iron man suspension in front with a bullbar (D4D dc). He also needed to fit a spacer to lift the nose a bit. He drives the vehicle quite hard, especially in the dunes, no probelms. I have also fitted a bullbar. I then fitted a 20mm spacer on top of the shock, purchased from la sport to level the bakkie out. Looks good now but am a little concerned about CV angle/top a-arm interference with coil spring on full extension. I have however done some 4x4 routes with no problems yet. Will load the vehicle with 750 kg just to check the vehicles stance once it is loaded.

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Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:40 pm

Louis, is daai toetse toe gedoen en wat het die manne wysgeraak?

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