Max Lift on 2005 " New" Hilux

[Ou Bloues]

Just want some advice from the guys that already modified their Hilux

I already lift the front by 40mm, but another 30mm will be great.

What is the max lift you can get out of the front before the angels will become a problem and more modifications will be needed. Some people say from standard you can go 80mm, but this can have ride comfort problems onroad.

If you lift the back 30 mm and the front 80 mm from standard, the front is stil 40mm lower than the back, leveling this will leave you with no wheel travel in front at all, as you only have 120 mm of wheel travel in total.

Hear from you guys, I went for Bilstein shocks, which can give lift without coils

[Riceburner]

Shocks dont lift your vehicle, but you do get a 100mm lift kit.

[Ou Bloues]

The beilstein shocks is not doing the lifting, The Beilstein have the option to lift the coil spring higher up on the shock, like the Camil system that you can turn to get the spring higher.

Will the 100mm lift not give you a very hard ride ?

I will see Darell from Mikhem somewhere next week to see what we can do for best option, will let you know, but I think 60-80 mm is the best if you dont want to lose ride quality as well

[Riceburner]

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[CasKru]

Just want some advice from the guys that already modified their Hilux

I already lift the front by 40mm, but another 30mm will be great.

What is the max lift you can get out of the front before the angels will become a problem and more modifications will be needed. Some people say from standard you can go 80mm, but this can have ride comfort problems onroad.

If you lift the back 30 mm and the front 80 mm from standard, the front is stil 40mm lower than the back, leveling this will leave you with no wheel travel in front at all, as you only have 120 mm of wheel travel in total.

Hear from you guys, I went for Bilstein shocks, which can give lift without coils

Also be aware of the constant strain your CV's is going to be under. m2cw

[JohanM]

Cassie, I think if you lift it that much then you hve to lower the subframe with the correct spacers...........Like the 2.7 that has 33's on........123 WEG MP.....

That is the only way i can think to lift those vehicle's that much without straining the cv's to much...... :roll:

That is one of the reasons why I love my SFA so much!!

[Ou Bloues]

Just some feedback, I lifted the front in Total with 85 mm and the back with with only 30mm, so the hilux is standing level and looking good. I stil have a soft ride " ok bit harder than the original" but a lot softer than some other bakkies I've taken for test drives, and all this for only R 13 000" Bilstein Shocks, Dobinson Coils in front, and for now only Superspring at the back, will put in proper springs when the ship comes to shore.

[Niel]

Who was the supplier of the goodies? and can you post some pics pls?

[Ou Bloues]

I got the Shoks from Mikem, the springs from N1 4x4 Pretoria, but I believe Mikem will be able to get as well, I just did not get time to go to JHB aggain, and needed it ASAP.

The super Spring I got from Centurion High Q, but if you google suspersprings, they will give you dealer close to you.

All the service at the above was great, If you need any Toyota Parts and some work done on the body, you should see N1 4x4, they are only Toyota specialists, I dont think even Toyota have the amount of spares they have, and good advice.

I will post pics later the week when I've down loaded it from the Camera, my son took some nice pics this weekend.

[LouisZ]

Hallo Aldo,

Die lift nou wat jy in het is maks. As jy verder gaan en jy kyk na jou sideshaft angles as die bakkie hoer is sal jy sien die angle is reg nog soos dit nou is. Wat gebeur as jy nog 20-30mm hoer gaan sal wees die geringste wat jy die bakkie se wielle laat lig en die voet op die petrol is bietjie te veel en die wiel spin en kom terug grond toe kan jy verseker wees dat een sideshafts gaan breek. Ek het dit al 2 keer op roettes gesien en moet altyd help om die damn sideshaft uit te kry dat die bakkies net verder kan ry.

As jy hoer gaan sal jy die sideshaft angles moet regkry. Ek weet ongelukkig nie hoe nie, maar kan dink dat kan baie kos as dit moontlik is.

Beste Groette,
Louis

[Hoppy]

Ek doen n 50mm body lift vir 32" BANDE of 75mm as jy 33" wil opsit, dit het niks met sideshaft of propshaft angles te doen nie, ons lig net die body van die chassis af op.

[Ou Bloues]

Louis, ek het die probleem gesien toe ek op 95 mm lift gestaan het, en dit laat terug sak na die 85 mm vir veiligheid, dit laat nog 35mm vir travel, wat nie baie is, maar die rit is sagter as wat ek verwag het op die hoogte.

Die manne by N1 4x4 het ook gepraat van die body lift soos Hoppy, maar dit is net body lift, en niks anders nie, so jou laagste punt bly maar die difs. So ek sal nie nou al vir so iets gaan nie, ek ry nog nie so extreem 4x4 dat ek body lift nodig het nie, alles wat ek nou afry soos bumpers, vervang ek maar, so ek probber hulle maar een vir een afry want die skip is nog ver.

[ThysdJ]

Ek doen n 50mm body lift vir 32" BANDE of 75mm as jy 33" wil opsit, dit het niks met sideshaft of propshaft angles te doen nie, ons lig net die body van die chassis af op.

I saw this Hilux yesterday and it looks very mean... For a short while there I was actually contemplating buying a 3.0 D4D and having the same lift done on it... But then I waited for a while and the feeling went away....

[ToyX4]

Ek doen n 50mm body lift vir 32" BANDE of 75mm as jy 33" wil opsit, dit het niks met sideshaft of propshaft angles te doen nie, ons lig net die body van die chassis af op.

I saw this Hilux yesterday and it looks very mean... For a short while there I was actually contemplating buying a 3.0 D4D and having the same lift done on it... But then I waited for a while and the feeling went away....

Miskien moet jy maar vir jou D4D koop, Thys, dan sal jy ook minder by Allen gaan kuier

[ThysdJ]

Miskien moet jy maar vir jou D4D koop, Thys, dan sal jy ook minder by Allen gaan kuier

Al ry ek wat sal ek nog altyd elke 2de dag by Allan gaan kuier.. hy is my bra...

[Scorpion]

Miskien moet jy maar vir jou D4D koop, Thys, dan sal jy ook minder by Allen gaan kuier

Al ry ek wat sal ek nog altyd elke 2de dag by Allan gaan kuier.. hy is my bra...

Wel, dis seker beter as om jou onderbroek te wees...

[ThysdJ]

Here is a few pictures of the last "lift" job Allan did on a 2006 Hilux 4.0

He did the following:
50mm body lift,
50mm suspension lift (TJM suspension fitted)

The tyres are BFG Muds 32 X 11.5 X 16 with the new tread pattern. Because the BFG's are mounted on the original 7.5" Hilux rims, the circumference of the wheel is more than the circumference on Kaspaas' 33"s on 10" rims.

[JohanM]

Dis mos hoe `n 4.0Lt V6 Hilux moet lyk!!!

Kaspaas lyk nogsteeds beter moet ek sê. Dis seker maar net die shape en daai SFA setup wat dit vir my doen.

[Ou Bloues]

Is die voertuig nie baie los op die pad met die body lift nie, sommige mense sê dit gee baie body role

[ThysdJ]

Is die voertuig nie baie los op die pad met die body lift nie, sommige mense sê dit gee baie body role

Aldo dis heel moontlik so, siende dat die nuwe Hilux in elkgeval maar bietjie "top heavy" is.. (elk test en so aan)

[ToyX4]

Oom Thys, waar het daai maat daai BFG's gekry? Wat kos hulle? Het hy al met hulle gaan speel?

[ThysdJ]

Sallie kan se nie Riaan, hy het seker nog nie gaan speel nie daai Hilux is eergister afgelewer.... sal by Allan hoor... Die BFG's het blykbaar die nuwe tread pattern.

[HennieJ2]

There is a nice looking Hilux running around in Pretoria North - Montana - Sinoville area, with a good lift - he is the same colour as my blue work horse - see pic. Does anyone know this guy. He also has a colour coded replacement front bumper - looks like eithet ARB or TJM

[BlouBrakkie]

Hey Bloues

Nog n vragie......het jy met die 80mm lift voor enige probleme gehad met wheel allignment?

Ek het al gehoor op daai hoogte sukkel die ouens om die "castor" van die wielle reg te kry.

Ook as jou wiel in die wheel well op beweeg (tot teen die bump stop), kry jy dat jou upper control arm teen jou coil vryf?

Ek sien vir Darryl van Mikem volgende week. Gaan my coils en leafs daar by hom kry asook die bilsteins met die adjustable shock struts. Gaan dit op so 60mm voor laat lig. Die shock adjustment sal my dan 30mm speeling gee. 15mm op of af. m.a.w. (45mm tot 75mm lift)

Dan sien ek mens kry replacement upper control arm wat so ontwerp is om die oorspronklike castor van jou wielle reg te kry tot met OEM spec. Dit verhoed ook wrywing tussen jou upper control arms en coils en laat mens toe om wyer wielle op te sit sonner dat dit uit die wheel arches loop. Maar om die goed van Amerika af hierna toe te vervoer is mo3r duur.

Anyways, 60mm sal goed genoeg wees vir nou, tot dat ek my diff drop kit eendag kry.

[Ou Bloues]

Voor op 15" rim is die hooget van die onderkant van die ri, tot by die modder skerm 775mm. My bakkie was la by Toyota, en daar is niks wat raak nie, mar hulle het gesê dit is maks, en dat my outer seal bearings net so 50 000km sal hou, en ie nie 200 000km nie, dit kos net so R 1300 om te vevrang, arbeid en parte ingesluit.

Het die naweek by LA sport se skou Hilus gesien wat 60 mm lift en 50 mm body lift gehad het, het nice gelyk, maar body lift gee glo baie roll over probleme

[BlouBrakkie]

Hey Aldo

Se my gou. Daai Dobinson coils wat jy voor laat opsit het. Is hulle langer as die standaard Hilux coil, of is hulle net stywer en dus gee meer hoogte?

Kan jy dalk onthou hoeveel hulle gekos het vir n stel?

[koeka]

Hey Aldo

Komplimente met jou mooi wa hy lyk bakgat.

[mmaaxx]

Maximum lift you should be running on your current shape hilux is 75mm over standard....3".

anymore than that is not usuable and will destroy your CV's......

Im running a full 3" and wouldnt recommend going higher than that...my inner cv rubber boots are almost touching sitting on level ground....I still get good travel both up and down...have measured 9.25" of travel in total.

if you want more than 3 inches, you have to look at a 4" drop bracket Snake Racing lift or similar or go for a bodylift.

at the end of the day, it depends on what you want to achieve and what you plan to use your hilux for.

I myself will be fitting a bodylift soon ontop of my suspension....how much is yet to be determined...a full 2inch bodylift will not achieve or benefit much other than looks as the bodymount is the limiting factor at the rear of the front guards when determining what the maximum tyre size will fit.

Im hoping to run 33.7x11.5x16 Simex Jungle Trekkers eventually, so a 30-35mm bodylift will be plenty.

hope that helps a little.

[African Child]

My een, 32" X 11,5 R15 Vol gepak in Angola!

[Pype]

African Child jou bakkie lyk goed

Ek will ook na die '32 bande toe gaan heir is myne op Baboons pass in Lesotho ook voll gelaai :)

[African Child]

Dankie, die 32" werk baie goed, ek het so 2 weke terug my 3de stel opgesit. Die ratverhouding is nie te erg uit nie en raak nooit enige plek op die bak nie, iets wat vir my baie belangrik was. Ek het OME op gesit toe ek die bakkie gekoop het. Nooit die bakkie sonder dit gery nie maar ek is nog altyd in ekstase oor die sagte rit en fantastiese hantering op grondpaai teen hoe spoed of op rowwe terrein. Die hantering op die teerpad laat maar veel te wese oor - MAAR WIE RY NOU TEERPAAIE?????? Die foutie net buitekant Luandla ( n kortpad........ )

[Traveler]

Dis nou al meer as 'n jaar later, hoe hou julle ouens se suspension lifts?

Julle nog tevrede? Ek verwag 'n 3" lift met die Radflo upgrade wat ek gaan doen.

http://www.snakeracing.com.au/radflo-co ... hocks.html

[African Child]

Man ek het so einde laasjaar die gier gekry om die bakkie weer so bietjie hoer te maak. Die shackels agter 30mm hoer gemaak en as ek reg onthou die shocks voor 25mm langer laat maak. Die bakkie se staans nou bietjie mooier vir my veral met die dat hy gewoonlik klaar gepak is met gewig en reg staan vir die volgende trip. Alles gaan goed sover behalwe en dalk verbeel ek my, maar dit voel of daar meer windweerstand is met die dat hy nou nog hoer staan. Ek het n afspraak gehad om die bodylift te doen maar toe ons klaar is met die shocks en shackels kon ek sien die 32" bande gaan bietjie klein lyk as ek die bakkie nog lig. Dit sou beteken 33" en met die ratverhouding wat klaar nie 100% is, is dit nie n opsie nie. Maar magtig dit sou dam mooi lyk!!!!!!!! Die ander saak is dat die rooftop tent se leer en alles nou nog lekker op die grond staan, maar daai ekstra hoogte van die bodylift gaan storings maak nie eens te praat van die gesukkel om my kayaks op die dak laai nie. So die bodylift is op die rak tot ek weer genoeg jik.

[Tiger7]

I had the full IRONMAN suspension fitted and a 20mm leveling kit, the front lifted 80mm and the rear 50mm.
Now the Hilux is level.


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