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Who can spot the leaks :wth: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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forgot one :sick:
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Thu Aug 16, 2012 4:44 am

Naas - dis 'n MONSTER!! :cooldude:

Baie geluk - sal hom baie graag in lewende lywe wil sien.

Geluk ook aan Mark - dis baie mooi :thumbup: :thumbup:

...ek jeuk...ek jeuk......ek jeuk...ek jeuk......ek jeuk...ek jeuk......ek jeuk...ek jeuk......ek jeuk...ek jeuk......ek jeuk...ek jeuk......ek jeuk...ek jeuk... :crazy:
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Thu Aug 16, 2012 5:52 am

Lol. En so vroeg al. Bel my dan gesels ons as jy regtig dit wil doen.
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Thu Aug 16, 2012 6:39 am

96-Luxi 4x4 wrote:Lol. En so vroeg al. Bel my dan gesels ons as jy regtig dit wil doen.

Dankie Naas vir jou aanbod - ek sal jou later in die jaar kontak - is onder druk met projekte en het 'n Marokko trip wat voorle - ek is middel Okt weer terug.

Kom ons kyk hoe gaan dit intussen met die jeukery :confused:
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100. By daai tyd is myne heeltemal kla dan kom toets jy. Ek kan ma net raad gee
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Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:02 am

naas as soon as lextreme are finished we will sort out the transfer leak and console , the aircon pump i will have to take back to ike and check as it looks like the front seal , but it might just be better to let them remove the gas and fit another compressor.

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Hi Theo - thats going to be the drive of your life down to CT - enjoy!

(Hope your garagecard is pumped up to 3 bar :lol: :lol: )
Just stopped at home after doing 1800 km over the last 3 days. :dance1:

What a blast with not a single problem at all. No leaks, noises vibrations or anything. Fantastic vehicle ! Fuel consumption ave @ 6 km/l at 120 + km/h on the gps :cooldude:

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Sounds like it is working well :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:17 pm

Theo, 6 km/l sound a bit heavy for the open road at 120km/h. I thought that motor was a lot more economical?
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Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:27 am

That is the ave at 120 + on the GPS(it inludes silly stuff like overtaking at 126 km/h in 3rd at 4600 rpm etc etc :oops:

I suspect that once I calm down to travelling at a more sedate pace it will be better but I do think she is running a bit rich.Now that we are here at the coast we will remap/tune her .. :cooldude:

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Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:11 pm

Theo where can we see a few picks of your van? My FJ 47 needs a transplant... just need to see a few picks to see what exactly is causing the itch i have...
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Thu Aug 23, 2012 7:35 pm

Theo, let us know if it improves. I am going to do a 3uz conversion in my cruiser hopefully at the end of Sept to improve my consumption as well (I hope).
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Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:47 am

Mark, I would never do a conversion like this with the aim of improving fuel consumption - that is setting yourself up for huge dissapointment, IMHO.

Stef there is a thread on LCCSA in the Hardcore section and then the main rebuild thread in the Legends section but here are a few ...

About to drive her back home ..

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Fri Aug 24, 2012 1:03 pm

That looks freaken awesome... Now i Know exactly where the itch comes from!!
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Sat Aug 25, 2012 7:43 am

Theo, what was your rpm at 120km/h? I take your point since on your van there probably is not much improvement but the cruiser gets around 4.3km/l so I need to improve on that even if it sits around 6.5km/l I would be happy. I costs almost R2k to fill and you do around 650km which gets expensive when you do a 3000km trip.
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Sat Aug 25, 2012 12:59 pm

2100 RPM @ 120 km/h Mark. I bet at those speeds it is lighter than my previous motor :wink2:

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Sun Aug 26, 2012 9:00 am

2100 rpm is too low in my opinion which is why you got 6km/l. I think if it was around 2800 rpm it would be better in the sweet spot and the motor would be more economical. I am a bit confused as to why its so low. The 4 spd and 5 spd both have a final drive of 0.753 and if you run a 4.1 diff ratio you should get it to rev at 2750 at 120 km/h which would be in a good torque range without labouring the motor. What diff have you got?
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Sun Aug 26, 2012 6:32 pm

4.1 :1 but I am not sure about the accuracy of the revcounter - I think it under reads by a bit. You are in good company though cos Mark a;lso said I should try it in 4th only :think:

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Tue Aug 28, 2012 5:47 am

he he maybe your final drive on the box is low combined with those tyres is making it so low.
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Hi Guys

small update, have been to busy. Saw Luxi quickly today at lextreme, they had to take the box and all out to check the shifting issue. Found cranck seal Was leaking and I saw it, was not a new one but the old one that came with the motor. they changed that. Then saw the rear of the gearbox was not assembled correctly, the spacer of the rear speed sensor sprocket gear was in the wrong place, causing the sensor not to be aligned 100% with the gear and causing it not to pickup the gear properly and causing the funny shifting. hopefully that will sort that.

Building a complete new air intake also as my original one is restricting it way to much according them also, so this will also take time. Will see what else pops up after that.
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Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:09 pm

Naas, kyk ook na Dia pyp wat van die box na die Snorkel gaan, dis waar die air restriction kan wees.

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Snorkel is ook deel van die probleem ja, ons sny hom ook heeltemal uit en hy gaan net n dummy wees :thumbdown:

Gan nuwe airbox bou aan linkerkant met original lexus air intake pyp in nuwe boks in, en bat skuif na regs. Baie werk wee :thumbdown:
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Kyk na die Isuzu 280d se Donoldson filter box. Ek het nou een gekoop by hulle in Krugersdorp en gaan hom nou opsit.

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Hulle bou somme een, en die original Lexus pyp gan in hom in, dink dit sal goedkoper ok wees, en minder werk vir my lol

Daar was ook n oil cooler pyp uit gearbox so erg gebuig omtrent net 30% flow sal deur hom gaan. Geknak reg wa hy vasmaak, dit beinvloed ook die shifting as die oil flow nie reg is nie. Hulle se n ander box op n ander bakkie was so toe hy wou gladnie 4de toe shift nie.
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Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:38 am

Gunta wrote:2100 rpm is too low in my opinion which is why you got 6km/l. I think if it was around 2800 rpm it would be better in the sweet spot and the motor would be more economical. I am a bit confused as to why its so low. The 4 spd and 5 spd both have a final drive of 0.753 and if you run a 4.1 diff ratio you should get it to rev at 2750 at 120 km/h which would be in a good torque range without labouring the motor. What diff have you got?
Hi,

How do one knows what the gear ratios on the auto boxes are? (Or what the model is?)

I got some info on Wiki:
A341 (4 spd), 4 gear = 0.705
A341E the same (first gear is different)

A650E: 5 gear = 0.753

According to the SS I built, 33" tyres with a 4sp auto and 4.1 diff should give 2200 rpm @ 120.
35" should give 2075.

33" with a 5 sp should give 2350 @ 120, and 35" should give 2216 rpm. (hope the calcs are correct).

Above assuming the the TB HR gear ratio is 1:1, can anybody confirm or give the correct ratio?

Also, what size tyres on the Cruiser, (which looks extremely good, I might add!!)

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Sorry to hear Naas :eh:


Chris, those are 33" x 10.5 xR15 BFG Baja tyres and thanks for the compliment

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Alex. Lol. Funny. Ma ja. Sad thruth is my Luxi is n nagmerie
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Gunta wrote:2100 rpm is too low in my opinion which is why you got 6km/l. I think if it was around 2800 rpm it would be better in the sweet spot and the motor would be more economical. I am a bit confused as to why its so low. The 4 spd and 5 spd both have a final drive of 0.753 and if you run a 4.1 diff ratio you should get it to rev at 2750 at 120 km/h which would be in a good torque range without labouring the motor. What diff have you got?
Hi,

How do one knows what the gear ratios on the auto boxes are? (Or what the model is?)

I got some info on Wiki:
A341 (4 spd), 4 gear = 0.705
A341E the same (first gear is different)

A650E: 5 gear = 0.753

According to the SS I built, 33" tyres with a 4sp auto and 4.1 diff should give 2200 rpm @ 120.
35" should give 2075.

33" with a 5 sp should give 2350 @ 120, and 35" should give 2216 rpm. (hope the calcs are correct).

Above assuming the the TB HR gear ratio is 1:1, can anybody confirm or give the correct ratio?

Also, what size tyres on the Cruiser, (which looks extremely good, I might add!!)

Cheers,

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Hi Chris
I think they had 2 different final gears for that box. I have seen it on wikki as well and I think for the cruiser they used the 0.753.
I have 32" tyres at the moment soon to be 33" and I am revving at 2750 rpm at 120 km/h
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Gunta wrote:Hi Chris
I think they had 2 different final gears for that box. I have seen it on wikki as well and I think for the cruiser they used the 0.753.
I have 32" tyres at the moment soon to be 33" and I am revving at 2750 rpm at 120 km/h
Hi Gunta,

How do one knows what ratio the final gear is? With the Hilux with a 4.875 diff one would need the .705 I think.

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Fri Aug 31, 2012 3:03 pm

naas that seal is new , it gets put in before we paint the block , i will show you the invoices from toyota if you want , as for the transfer speed sensor i cant tell you , nothing was removed from it when assembling the adaptor , so it should have been in the original place , as for the pipe i did not see a kink as described , as for any issues i said when you took it we were not finished but you wanted it for the weekend so what can i do. now if you want to let somebody else strip and do what they want how do i combat that , yes i am not perfect mistakes can happen but if im not allowed to address them then i cant help. as for the aircon comp leak it is still under warranty so ike will sort it out.

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Sat Sep 01, 2012 5:04 pm

Sounds like too many cooks spoil the broth as they say. Its easy for one cook to blame the other so they can justify why they are ripping you off. Mark I have spoken to the guys at lextreme and I am not always so sure that they know what they are talking about. They are very helpful but when you start getting a bit technical with them they have to come back to you.
Naas I understand your frustration but you need to give Mark a chance to fix what he started and when its finished or he cant fix the problem then take it to someone else. The blaming game will start shortly once lextreme too have made a mistake and blame it on the other cook and then you are going to be really upset.
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Sat Sep 01, 2012 5:14 pm

Chris the last 80 series came with this box.

FZJ80 Information:

Manufacture Date; August 1992 to June 1998

Engine; 6-cylinder 4.5 litre EFI petrol engine the model designation is 1FZFE.

Manual Gearbox; 5-speed manual the model designation is H151F.

The gear ratios are: 1st 4.081:1, 2nd 2.294:1, 3rd 1.49:1, 4th 1:1, 5th .881:1, reverse 4.313:1

Automatic Transmission; 4-speed electronically controlled with lock up torque converter the model designation is A442F.

The gear ratios are: 1st 2.95:1, 2nd 1.53:1, 3rd 1:1, 4th .765:1, reverse 2.678:1

Transfer Case; The transfer case fitted to base model vehicles is part time 4WD the model designation is HF1A.The transfer case fitted to GXL, RV and Sahara models is full time 4WD and is known as a HF2A. NOTE: The late Sahara transfer case has a viscous center diff.

The gear ratios are: High range ratio is 1:1 and low range ratio is 2.488:1.

Differential; The differential ratio is 4.11:1.

FJ80 Information:
Manufacture Date; January 1990 to August 1992

Engine; 6-cylinder 4 litre 3F carburettor engine or the 3F-E, 4 litre EFI petrol engine.

Manual Gearbox; 5-speed manual the model designation is H150F.

The gear ratios are: 1st 4.529:1, 2nd 2.464:1, 3rd 1.49:1, 4th 1:1, 5th .881:1, reverse 4.313:1

Automatic Transmission; The 3F 4-speed with lock up torque converter the model designation is A440F.

The gear ratios are: 1st 2.95:1, 2nd 1.53:1, 3rd 1:1, 4th .717:1, reverse 2.678:1

Transfer Case; The transfer case fitted to base model vehicles is part time 4WD the model designation is HF1A. The transfer case fitted to GXL and Sahara models is full time 4WD the model designation is HF2A.

The gear ratios are: High range ratio is 1:1 and low range ratio is 2.488:1.

Differential; The differential ratio is 4.11:1.


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HZJ80 Information:

Manufacture Date; January 1990 to June 1998

Engine; 6-cylinder 4.2 litre naturally aspirated diesel engine the model designation is 1HZ.

Manual Gearbox; 5-speed manual the model designation is H150F.

The gear ratios are: 1st 4.529:1, 2nd 2.464:1, 3rd 1.49:1, 4th 1:1, 5th .881:1, reverse 4.313:1

Automatic Transmission; 4-speed with lock up torque converter the model designation is A440F.

The gear ratios are: 1st 2.95:1, 2nd 1.53:1, 3rd 1:1, 4th .717:1, reverse 2.678:1

Transfer Case; The transfer case fitted to base model vehicles is part time 4WD the model designation is HF1A. The transfer case fitted to GXL and Sahara models is full time 4WD the model designation is HF2A. NOTE: The late Sahara transfer case has a viscous center diff.

The gear ratios are: High range ratio is 1:1 and low range ratio is 2.488:1.

Differential; The differential ratio is 4.11:1.


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HDJ80 Information:

Manufacture Date; January 1990 to June 1998

Engine; 6-cylinder 4.2 litre turbo charged diesel engine the model designation is 1HDT.

Manual Gearbox; 5-speed manual the model designation is H151F.

The gear ratios are: 1st 4.081:1, 2nd 2.294:1, 3rd 1.49:1, 4th 1:1, 5th .881:1, reverse 4.313:1

Automatic Transmission; January 1990 to 1992 4-speed with lock up torque converter the model designation is A440F.

The gear ratios are: 1st 2.95:1, 2nd 1.53:1, 3rd 1:1, 4th .717:1, reverse 2.678:1

Automatic Transmission; 1992 to 1998 4-speed electronically controlled with lock up torque converter the model designation is A442F.

The gear ratios are: 1st 2.95:1, 2nd 1.53:1, 3rd 1:1, 4th .765:1, reverse 2.678:1

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The gear ratios are: High range ratio is 1:1 and low range ratio is 2.488:1.

Differential; The differential ratio is 4.11:1.
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Sat Sep 01, 2012 5:48 pm

Gunta wrote:Sounds like too many cooks spoil the broth as they say. Its easy for one cook to blame the other so they can justify why they are ripping you off. Mark I have spoken to the guys at lextreme and I am not always so sure that they know what they are talking about. They are very helpful but when you start getting a bit technical with them they have to come back to you.
Naas I understand your frustration but you need to give Mark a chance to fix what he started and when its finished or he cant fix the problem then take it to someone else. The blaming game will start shortly once lextreme too have made a mistake and blame it on the other cook and then you are going to be really upset.
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"Ag flip hoeveel gaan dit my nou weer kos" i thaught ag jou moer man, and i promptly told him i can't get it right he need to take it somewere ells
NAAS give the bakkie to Mark let him sort it. DO NOT PUT presure on, these things take time and involve a lot of frustration.
Your comments that the conversion was a disaster, and postig pics of leaks will soon get the "hair up" and you will be on your own !!!
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Sat Sep 01, 2012 5:56 pm

There were more than 2 auto gearboxes for the 80 but here are 2 of them.

A442F Transmission

4 speed automatic transmission found in 80-series (1993 & 1994 in the US) Land Cruisers. Typically matted to a 1FZ-FE engine.

Gear Ratios:
1.2.95:1
2.1.53:1
3.1:1
4.0.765:1

A343F
Transmission 4 speed electronically controlled automatic transmission found in later 80-series (1995 - 1997 in the US) and early 100-series (1998 - 2002 in the US) Land Cruisers. Typically matted to a 1FZFE engine with the 80-series and the 2UZFE engine with the 100-series.

Gear Ratios:
1.2.804:1
2.1.531:1
3.1:1
4.0.753:1
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Sat Sep 01, 2012 6:03 pm

Gunta wrote:There were more than 2 auto gearboxes for the 80 but here are 2 of them.

A442F Transmission

4 speed automatic transmission found in 80-series (1993 & 1994 in the US) Land Cruisers. Typically matted to a 1FZ-FE engine.

Gear Ratios:
1.2.95:1
2.1.53:1
3.1:1
4.0.765:1

A343F
Transmission 4 speed electronically controlled automatic transmission found in later 80-series (1995 - 1997 in the US) and early 100-series (1998 - 2002 in the US) Land Cruisers. Typically matted to a 1FZFE engine with the 80-series and the 2UZFE engine with the 100-series.

Gear Ratios:
1.2.804:1
2.1.531:1
3.1:1
4.0.753:1

Hi Mark,

Seems there's quite a lot of combinations. I was thinking more of the Lexus gearboxes. What's in Olive? Do the gearboxes usually have a plate woth the data on?

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Sat Sep 01, 2012 6:20 pm

Chris the lexus has a 0.753 final drive as well for the 5 speed. The 1 st gear is much shorter.

Gear Ratios: 1st 3.357 2nd 2.180 3rd 1.424 4th 1.000 5th 0.753 Reverse 3.431 Final 3.266
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Sat Sep 01, 2012 6:40 pm

Theo if your cruiser was manual first you probably have a 3.7 diff ratio combined with the 33" tyres makes you rev at around 2100 rpm (so your rev counter is correct). My cruiser is the 4500 efi auto and they had the 4.1 diff which was the same as the turbo diesel. There is 17km/h difference so when I am at 120 at 2750 you are at 137km/h at the same revs.
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Gunta wrote:Chris the lexus has a 0.753 final drive as well for the 5 speed. The 1 st gear is much shorter.

Gear Ratios: 1st 3.357 2nd 2.180 3rd 1.424 4th 1.000 5th 0.753 Reverse 3.431 Final 3.266
Hi Mark,

Seems we are talking past each other. As I have it the 4 speed auto Lexus gearbox has a 4th gear ratio of 0.703. The 5 speed Lexus Auto has a 5 gear ratio of 0.753. You are stating otherwise. How can I be sure??
(I'm not talking Landcruiser boxes).

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Gunta wrote:Theo if your cruiser was manual first you probably have a 3.7 diff ratio combined with the 33" tyres makes you rev at around 2100 rpm (so your rev counter is correct). My cruiser is the 4500 efi auto and they had the 4.1 diff which was the same as the turbo diesel. There is 17km/h difference so when I am at 120 at 2750 you are at 137km/h at the same revs.

My 1973 LC (my first 4x4) had a 3-speed manual with a 4.11 diff, don't know what engine because it had a 4.1 Chev transplant (maybe an F??)
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Sun Sep 02, 2012 7:33 am

Hi Chris what tyres do you have, then we can work out your rpm? Lexus made a 4 spd auto with these ratios.
A45DE
1st 2.826
2nd 1.493
3rd 1.0000
4th 0.730

This is probably the one you have.
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Gunta wrote:Hi Chris what tyres do you have, then we can work out your rpm? Lexus made a 4 spd auto with these ratios.
A45DE
1st 2.826
2nd 1.493
3rd 1.0000
4th 0.730

This is probably the one you have.
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1st Gear 2.531 2nd Gear 1.531 3rd Gear 1.000 O/D Gear 0.705 Reverse Gear 1.880 Final 3.916
Hi Mark,

I don't have a Lexus in my Hilux at this stage, I'm contemplating to have it done (with auto box) that's why it's important for me to get all the dope beforehand. The Hilux has a 4.875 diff which will then need a low top gear on the gearbox, as I like to do overlanding and I hope the lower revs will help with the fuel bill. I had it that the 4sp auto Lexus is 0.705, which will work nicely with that diff. 5sp Lexus auto 0.753, which should also be OK but I would perfer the 0.705, hence I need to know how to determine what the gear ratio is.

It seems Lexus had 2 4 sp auto boxes, A45DE (0.73) and the A341 (0.703). I gues both will be OK with a Hilux, but how do I know which box is which and what the ratio is?

Thx for the info so far.

I found the calcs I did for Theo (page 11 on this thread). His LC has got the H55F gb with 33" tryres. It seems calcs doesn't correspond to actual revs which is either other diff ratio or rev counter not accurate.

100 110 120 Km/h
2192.8 2412 2631.3 rpm

33 inches
4.1 diff
1 4.843
2 2.619
3 1.516
4 1
5 0.845

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Sun Sep 02, 2012 11:24 am

Chris send me your email and I will send you an excel calculator where you put in the tyre size, diff ratio and gear ratios and it will tell you the speed. Theo is getting 120km/h with 33" tyres at 2750 with a 4.1 diff from the calculator.
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naas i understand your frustration , but we did tread where we have not been before , this you knew from word go with the original ecu , i thank the guys for the comments ( ok except for alex , duh , cant even comment on him what he says does not help anybody ) , when you took the van the friday all you where going to do was drive the weekend , go for the clearance then bring it back so we could then complete everything , i have an open door policy you are still more than welcome anytime , normally i will drive for a few days do a knock list and then take it from there , any job whether cars or construction , engineering etc always has a knock list and you then find a few faults here and there and you sort them , as for trying to charge somebody more than the quoted price that is something that i feel strongly about , i will rather take the knock than go back to a customer and say well this is going to cost you this and that ,
i am not knocking the original system but the frustration is when something is not right where do you go look , i have now made it policy that we will not touch another oem system , if 1 sensor is not right it crashes , and i cant have that , with the spits you can at least drop a cylinder or 2 which we have had before ( faulty resistor for coil feedback , which is why we have moved them to a fusebox type system ) and the car still runs albeit heavy on juice but it wont leave you in the middle of nowhere , everybody nowadays has a laptop and for 120 bucks you buy the cable and 99% of the times over the phone you can diagnose the problem and get it sorted voila ,
a m3 came in the other day for a 2jz gte conversion with the original ecu on and the box as supplied from pretoria and i told the cussie thats the first thing im throwing off , not shooting them but he wants a single turbo and bigger injectors so its not going to work , he wants 400kw plus and i dont want an original ecu crashing on it , with an aftermarket we get the figures easily .
as for the 1uz vvt the motors are running fine on the spits and the 4 speed has been proven to run well on the spits , so its a good combo , yes we will get the 5 sorted but just have to get around the pwm signal for the pressure as thats what is holding us back ,
but thus said i told you that saturday that the lux can start , with out the box filled with oil but you where adamant you wanted to hear it and what happened ( you kept starting it and trying to rev it ) , the box destructed itself so luckily we had 3 - 4 boxes spare so we changed it , i cannot say that was the problem but any moving part without oil will bomb ( i dont care if lextreme start the stuff on the stand without oil it will *a* ) but i even gave you a spare box for nothing as ill end up throwing them away.
but as said no hard feelings , give a buzz and make a turn. im always there and will help where i can.
as ive said before the forum is to help , such as the revcounter stickers for olive and i have now done for the lux and landcruiser , if somebody wants them then shout and ill email them ,
at the end of the day i dont try and charge 100k for a conversion as ive always said i do this for the enjoyment and to keep my guys busy and yes mistakes do happen but i have big shoulders and i will shoulder the blame for anything my guys have done as that is how it works but i will endeavour ( maybe the words are toooo big for you alex ) to keep everybody happy ( which on a saturday i can see i do as it looks like a breakfast run with guys just coming for a visit , past and future customers )
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Gunta wrote:Theo if your cruiser was manual first you probably have a 3.7 diff ratio combined with the 33" tyres makes you rev at around 2100 rpm (so your rev counter is correct). .
Nope, it is an original BJ 42 LX with H55F 5 sp box.They were all 4.11:1 ratio.

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Morning Guys

Please understand that I did not say anything, or post anything bad about someone. Guys wanted photos so I posted some pics of the conversion, not the leaks, and made a joke regarding the aircon pump leak, of wich Mark had no controll over as its a used engine this I understand. Ike will sort this when its done, he said we can recon the pump seals and bearings if needed, not a big thing.

Then regarding the 2nd Cook Gunta :lol: , this unfortunately was needed as Lextreme did the wiring, so Mark could not work on that, that is why I sent it to them for the shifting issue. Mark and i thought it was the management.

After they checked, they saw its not electronic so I said take it out and see whats going on at the back of the gearbox with the speed sensor, as it must be with the speed sensor. Mark I understand everything went back in, sure of that from your side, but they said just the speed sensor sprocket spacer was in the wrong place, honest mistake, and this caused the sensor to miss some teeth some times as the box picks up speed. So this they rectified, and is still to test it today hopefully. While all was out I asked them to check and change the oil seals while its out, otherwise you will have to take it out again. To me its not Mark that did a bad conversion, its just the time, and I know Mark is very busy, so I told Lextreme to fix the seals while they were busy on the gearbox. I also asked them to change the seals on the transfer just because its old, this I never discussed with Mark. This also I did otherwise the old transfer may start to leak after 2000km and its out again.

Yes there were a few things I were not happy with, but I decided to take it to lextreme for the shifting issues and rev counter as it was undriveable like it was. While waiting I got the rev counter sorted myself, so they had to fix the shifting.

Now hopefully the "D" shifting through all the gears will be sorted, then they still have to sort out the electronic side of the shifting through gears with the Vigo shifter. This also Mark could not do, as again its with the Lextreme OEM system.

So what Mark did Im happy with, and the fact that he gave me a spare box makes us square, and I was not gonna push for every little thing to be fixed liked a bad customer. For what I paid Mark did plenty, and I need my bakkie, so did not want to wait again from 2 people, so thought Ill let lextreme fix the oil leaks while its all out. Im paying for that, but just to get it done quickly I dont care.

Mark they showed me the cranck seal, and honestly it does not look new, but its not an expensive fix, so its all good.

Other mods Im doing there, and has nothing to do with Mark's conversion, is changes I want now after I have driven it a little. Like the air filter system. Mark I said it was taking power away, and I may change it afterwards, this Im now doing. Then Im also going for original Lexus fuel pump inside the tank, with Lexus Fuel regulator. This will ensure a 1.4bar pressure in the fuel system at all times while shut down, to ensure it starts on the first turn. With spitronics it primes the system by giving the pump power when you switch the ignition on. With OEM system its not the case, and needs to start on the pressure in the system, as it only gives power to the pump when you cranck. This causes the bakkie to struggle to start when hot. So Im changing this to work with the OEM system. With spitronics as Mark does, his way works fine as I have seen with the other cars and they start fine. Mine looses all pressure as soon as you shut off the engine.

Mark, no hard feelings, and yes we knew from the start it was a new thing, but it just took to long, so I decided to jump in and get it running quicker. I know its your pleasure, but still you need to get cars out and make money or brake even atleast, so to bring Luxi back every week I thought wasgonna be frustrating for you and me. Unfortunately lextreme is very busy also (not doing conversions as this is not their trade) so i had to wait to send it in at a booked date. Its still there and will hopefully have it back soon.

Good things I can say about Mark's conversion is the engine bay is a very clean job, engine was prepped nice and looks almost new, cooling system works 100% for the little I have drove it, so Im not saying Marks work is a nightmare att all. What I ment was it feels like all this time has passed to get it all done, and was it all worth it? I started in mid feb, we are in September and I still do not have my bakkie back, so that to me is a nightmare.

Yes I say maybe I should not have done it, as i had a perfect 100% original Hilux with no issues, but to be honest the little I have drove it, as soon as i start it I start to smile, so I will look back at this and probably say it was all worth it!!

Mark I think its wise you saying that you do what you know and is comfortable with - Spitronics, 4 speed auto. If you are not confortable with OEM and 5 speed rather stay away, otherwise it may become an issue, but as time moves on the normal 1UZ will be scares, as well as the 4 speeds, so hope your guys get the 5 & 6 running.

I said, and still beleive the OEM system is what I want. I want it all stock, so Im happy and know it will be reliable. As you say if the guys want more horsepower, and for different reasons, yes you must look at aftermarket systems, but if all is stock as it was in the lexus car, surely it will work 100%.

My engine is smooth, starts first time when cold, idles up until its hot then goes doen, this all is very smooth and clean, so so far Im happy with the OEM system and its sounds perfect with the pipe Mark built.

Thanks guys for the fun, and chats. See you on the trails!! :boss:
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Tue Sep 04, 2012 5:48 am

Cool beans Naas, cant wait :thumbup:
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Ai Naas, #$1 ek kry jou jammer man. Mens betaal so baie geld en het al die baie verwagtings, maar dan moet jy so sukkel.

Ek is jammer dinge het nie uitgewerk soos jy verwag het nie (Feb - Sept :shock: ) maar ek glo jy sal Luxi wel uitgesort kry.

Hierdie hele ombouing het ons baie geleer en verseker my mind opgemaak oor lexus conversion vs nuwer voertuig.

Sterkte verder, ek hoop regtig jy kan Luxi so kry dat hy weer vir jou 'n plesier kan wees.

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Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:48 pm

Everyone posting here must just bear in mind that Naas' conversion hasn't been done before, 4.3L VVTi Lexus with OEM ECU and 5 speed auto! As Naas stated himself, he is/was prepared to take on the challenge!

Had it been a gen 1/2/3 4L V8 with an aftermarket ECU and 4 speed auto box, it would have been a walk in the park!

Once it's sorted Naas... you'll be kinda like the first man to walk on the moon! And hopefully you'll be over the moon too!

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Bretton it isn't the 4.3 its the 1uz vvt with original management and 5 spd auto, but it also has'nt been done before. Someone has to walk the road first for others to follow.
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Gunta wrote:Sounds like too many cooks spoil the broth as they say. Its easy for one cook to blame the other so they can justify why they are ripping you off. Mark I have spoken to the guys at lextreme and I am not always so sure that they know what they are talking about. They are very helpful but when you start getting a bit technical with them they have to come back to you.
Naas I understand your frustration but you need to give Mark a chance to fix what he started and when its finished or he cant fix the problem then take it to someone else. The blaming game will start shortly once lextreme too have made a mistake and blame it on the other cook and then you are going to be really upset.
Hi Gunta. I am sorry to hear you feel that way. If you could send me the detail you are looking for i will do my best to answer any of your questions. We have sold hundreds of engines and have done all the lexus engines in the jz's and uz's including the 3UZ. Saying the game of blam will start shortly once Lextreme have made a mistake is an unjust comment. We will however advise when we see things wrong on a vehicle to protect the client. It is called honesty.

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Sun Sep 16, 2012 10:14 am

Hi Tim, I think you miss understood me. I am not blaming you in any way what I was trying to say was when someone works on someone elses work there will always be blame from one to the other. What I said was Naas should first let Mark finish what he started so there are no come backs or blame on his work before he takes it to someone else. Its very easy to blame someone else when someone has worked on a vehicle before you (And I am not in anyway saying you will do that or that you did) but I have been down this same road where this did happen to me and my shool fees were very expensive and I was saddled with the costs so I know how Naas feels. The other thing is what you say to someone and he repeats it to someone else its like a broken telephone and the story changes. I believe you when you say that you know the 1 uz well since you have sold a few hundred of them very successfuly and you have a good back up service. With regards the the 3 uz I dont know anyone yet that has installed one and has it running well that I can do a comparison with. As you said you have not sold many of these units and you prefer the 1 uz because they make the same power although the torque is lower by only 34nm and it is about R10k cheaper. I believe you were going to start a project with a 3 uz into a land cruiser for a lady customer of yours with the OEM management but I am not sure if you have started it yet. I am sure there are a lot of guys on the forum that would be keen to follow a report on that should you start a new thread, myself incuded.
So please accept my humble appologies if I offended you in anyway as it was honestly not my intention.
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Mon Sep 17, 2012 11:58 am

Ek moet seker ook antwoord op Mark se uitlatings. Gelukkig is Pers Kers my Land Cruiser se by naam, maar ek sien jy raak nukkerig en persoonlik. Ek het afgelei van die ombouing dit gaan oor geld en meet instrumente al hoewel die mok up enjin het nie gewerk nie (vibration- propshaft) dus die angles is verkeerd as jy dit gemeet duh(jou woorde). As die inlet op n V8 meet 76 mm en n snorkel is 53 mm :?: is daar nie n bietjie van n probleem. Ek moet seker nie vrae of daar n eksterne petrol pomp is of n toyota pomp in die tenk want niemand glo mos aan OEM nie - maar daar sal heel moontlik ook n plumming probleem wees as jy n eksterne een gebruik het. Shifter koop n 2nd hand kabel vir shifter en al die brackets o ja ek het vergeet dis n R 50 000 ombouing :alvarin:

Op die einde van die dag R 50 000 ombouing wat help dit die klient? 101 plumming moet oor gedoen word die grade van die propshafts moet reg kom dus enjin mounts moet sekerlik los gemaak word om angles te verbeter (dit weet jy seker) tensy daar daai goedkoop Ford enjin mounts gebruik word. Om die centre bearing uit te haal los nie die probleme op nie -swakker offroad angles - langer propshaft sal die kans dat jy die prop soos n koeksister kan afdraai groter.

OEM systeem is loop reg elke keer , koppel dit reg op en jy het nie n laptop nodig nie. Ek hoop die inligting sal die ander mense op die forum help. goedkoop kort pad het in hierdie geval nie gewerk nie veral as jy OEM gebruik of koop n enjin wat klaar kan start.

Daar is al 2 3UZFE 5 spoed op 4x4 transfers gedoen geen issues , 4.0 vvti 5 spoed na 4x4 is daar al baie gedoen so die een was verseker nie die eerste nie. As daar iemand is wat nie verstaan wat ek bedoel met plumming nie sal ek fotos op laai en ek is seker enige een se skoonma gaan die fout raak sien. Ek glo die saak is nou afgehandel.

Naas jou bakkie is baie mooi ek wil graag meer uitvind oor die bumpers ens. Lekker 4x4 as jy hom terug kry. Goete :dance1:

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Mon Sep 17, 2012 2:09 pm

Hi guys, let's keep it civil and respect the fact that this is Naas' thread for his conversion. If you have something helpful to add, by all means feel free to do so. But please let's not start another bun-fight over conversions... we've been there, done that! That'll just be showing Naas total disrespect.

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Wed Sep 19, 2012 4:04 pm

Almost there guys, but by all means note all comments, makes it all much more interesting :thumbup:

Luxi is almost there, tested more on Sunday, burst an aircon pipe, otherwise its going. small things, then prop and aircon
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Wed Sep 19, 2012 4:10 pm

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