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Unfotunately the v6 threw a rod through the block , so here we go , will start posting pics as soon as its here.
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Cool

Seems like me and him are celebrating together!
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just waiting for the tow guys to bring it from sasolburg.
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Hi Mark

Looking forward in seeing the progress from the 'old V6 strip-out' & the new installtion?

I'm sure my bakkie is with you already?

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yes jan the motor is out , going to start cleaning everything up and make the adaptor for the motor , i have some pics that i will post.
the offending motor :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
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Looks bad, think the V8 will be nice afterwards :thumbup:

What will you guys do with the old V6, there are still some parts to use off that no?
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Mark what happened there?
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louis not sure but when removing the motor the water pump is shot it leaks like a sieve and has been for a while , will post some pics as naas and jans motors powdercoating has come back just waiting on the platers for all the bolts.
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naas i told jan put it on gumtree as there is branches and a good exhaust ( ok i will fit a flange as it had to be cut to get out , grrrrr always irritates me ) and the heads and all the other stuff is still good and he can make some moola back. did it with a navara and the customer got 37k back after breaking up the motor.
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Cool, Make sense, Had the same idea with all the stuff that you are going to take out of mine by next week.. :D:
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Thanks Mark!

The Lux V6 motor had +- 263,000 km's on the clock. Full service history at Toyota. For e.g the aircon pump/compressor has just been replaced with a new one mid January this year.

The vehicle was fitted with a SAC Computer Chip, Filter, branches & exhaust +- last year September.

Mark, will I use again the SAC Chip on the new motor?

At this stage, I do have a buyer for the brances but rest still available?

If there is anyone interested on buying spares of the motor or even better the complete V6, please let me know?

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Hi Mark

Please update me on the progress & posisble some photo's?

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in my racing days we used to call that electrical problems...

the starter was removed by the rod! :lmao:
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ok , motor in mounted , rad back , just finishing of the zorst , then complete the wiring , and then put fire in the wire ,

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but somehow between jan breaking down and us getting the vehicle it ended up with a manual propshaft which is 50mm longer than the auto , so dont know what happened there.
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Damn those motors are real purdy ! :clap:
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Hi guys. Mark sorry got this new iphone so could not download the foties yet i took monday to post for Jan, but see you already did. You moved looks great so far!! Seems like this one should run by the weekend no? :shock:

Good luck. Then Luxi is on his tail!!
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no sweat thanks naas , yes yours and theos are hot on its heels , sorry ran out of steam tonight only got home at 10 last night , felt like a zombie.
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Cool thanks. I think we stick with vvti, 5 speed and original management. We will find a way. When you are on the wring on mine again let me know what the pta guys said, or the guy from nzl. Somewhere we will get what we need. :boss:

Thanks man! Talk soon.

Jan yours looks good, wanne hear that vvti when its running!!
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Thanks Mark! It really looks great! I can't wait to get delivery of the vehicle!

I just can't imagine what it's going too sound like & how it gonna run!

Naas, when it's ready we must meet up to hear what's it's gonna sound like!

I'm sure you can't wait for your Luxi!!!

Mark, I can't say how I do apprecite all! From day one, even with the little 'Hic-ups', you did it all!

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pleasure , just seeing the happy faces on the guys when they take their vans for that first spin makes all the hard work worth it.
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busy getting it started , bit of a hiccup with the ecus but getting there , everything is done bar the aircon ( as this can only be done once its running ) , but its looking smart , once running i just need to make sure the original ecu is seeing the correct signals for the auto box to work correct , been some late nights on this one as i know jan you are itching to get your hands on it , i understand the frustration but i cant deliver it to you if im not happy with it , it has to be right first time , sorry.
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Mark, I like your attitude! Sort out the nigglies before the customer gets the vehicle!
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Mr_B wrote:Mark, I like your attitude! Sort out the nigglies before the customer gets the vehicle!

Yep he is the real deal ! :boss:
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running , just checking the alt as the light stays on dim , faulty regulator , booked for aircon tommorow , dyno on wed morning
so yes things do go right you just have to plod on and knuckle down as they say.
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Sounds good Mark, hope all goes well and Janna can be a smiling V8 owner!

How is that botteling machine coming, I know that is also another one that needs your attention and close to the finish line! Hope you get that done and running smoothly also. Then you can attend to your more fun V8 Conversions i think!

Bought that fan as i said, will just wire it up with a switch on the red lux for the weekend, can alsways do it properly afterwards. Thanks for the help with contact details!!

lets talk soon!
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yea the bottling machine is taking a lot of my after hours as this is the best time to write software ( this is why i told timothy we speak the same language naas ) just a few small mechanical niggles , would like it finished as im in for half a bar , would like to get the bucks back otherwise the vroue is going to donner me , maybe buy a cruiser for myself , got the jans black lux running , new voltage reg in the alternator , put the original throttle body in as a dummy as the signal is not a 5v signal , if its not plugged in it goes into limp mode and changes gear at 2000rpm at any throttle position , at the first service jan i might fit the original throttle to the vvt but for the moment its tucked away out of harms way , so we can get you on holiday this weekend with aircon , even though with this weather who needs it .
we only left the shop 30 minutes ago jan so its ready for aircon tommorow.

but as ive said before with cuzzies like yourself , adolf , theo , jan and the like its a pleasure as i know it can get rattled at times but good things dont happen overnight , and i want the guys to be proud to open their bonnets and say check this out , not like a ford ranchero that came in last week and its been going on 4 years and its a shambles , and its just get it going , get it going now temp guage does not work , speedo does not work , now you must perform miracles and no if you want it done properly i rip out and start again.
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Nice job so far Mark. :thumbup:
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thanks mark , did you get your 3uz
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Many Thanks Mark!

Can't wait to see it!

Do appreciate all!

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mark watson wrote:thanks mark , did you get your 3uz
Nope not yet, I am busy doing an engine overhaul on my Kia. I am still trying to find out if it's worth taking a chance on the 6 spd or just settle for the 5 spd. Hope to make a plan in the next 2 months to get the 3 uz and bring it to you and get it all set up before I bring you the cruiser. Not in a hurry so I want to do it right the first time. Busy sorting out the front and rear discs, they are a bit shot and the oke before only changed one and the other is shaped like a banana (never seen a disc like this before)
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Bump for some dyno news ! :mrgreen:
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busy sorting a couple of electrical issues as im not happy with a few things , jan did bring it back as like i said we did not have a chance to check everything , jan has been a sport and understands , but will keep everybody posted.
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ok so fitted the original v6 throttle body back so its still drive by wire and the speed cruise works a charm , found the manifold flap was not working and sorted that out much more responsive , will dyno this morning.
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Good work Mark. Very interested in the dyno results of the VVTi :clap:
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hi guys , 133kw and 330nm , bit difficult being auto as you have to feed the throttle slowly so it doesnt change gear on the rollers , also only running to 5000rpm so it does not change up. but a very flat torque curve so it will be magic for towing , a little down on the kw but this is due to the 70mm throttle body and not the 84mm but its the only way to keep the speed cruise , but all done bar the valet jan and i must just check the 4 - 5 gear change and see what the problem is. will try get it to you saturday as for some strange reaso i have been thinking today is wednesday , duh
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Is that on the wheels or flywheel Mark ?
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Ah Great Mark!

As I understand the 133 Kw is on the wheels!

For feul consumption, it will be vital to get the 5th / overdrive working!

As you mentioned, the 5th / overdrive, is electronic change, if I'm correct & surely with the V6 throttle body it should work? Or am I incorrect?

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Then those figures are good I mean just think:

1.At the wheels
2.At altitude
3.Only up to 5000 Rpm
4.With autobox

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not bad at all theo , with it being auto you cant just welly the thing on the dyno as if decides to gear back on the power run it tries to climb off the rollers , jan the 4th to fifth is electronic so it has to be a plug or something small around the shifter. but will sort
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still at work busy checking but ran out of time , if i dont go home i wont have one soon , but jan thankyou for being the sport that you are , and giving me the time , not that its on our side but it will be sorted for monday if i can help it.
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I hope you can use this Mark.
The controller is actually a microcontroller that I built and programed. It has 2 inputs (up and down) that cycle through 5 latched outputs. And to toggle between the controller and the ecu for fully auto mode, I used a DPDT relay which is wired to a switch.
I've programed 2 different versions, one that cycles through outputs 1-4 stopping at output 4 when activating the "up" input and output 1 when activating the "down" input. This controller is for the a340e or a341e
The other one does the same but cycles through 5 outputs instead, stopping at 1 and 5.
This controller is for the a650e.
The ouputs for 4th gear for the a340 and 5th gear for the a650 aren't actually needed since both transmission shift into their top gear when all the solenoids are turned off, but I went ahead and made an output anyway to power an led or indicator to let you know you're in top gear. Indicators can also be connected to all of the outputs to let you know what gear you're in.
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Hi Mark

Run the bakkie yesterday to Welkom & back!

Run very well!

Feul consumption very high, just above 5 km/l!

Obviously it will be higher as the bakkie don't shift over to O/D & the revs are running at +- 3300 rpm in 4th at a cruisning speed of +- 127 km/h!

Will you keep us up to date with the progress at what needs to be done to get the O/D working?

Maybe if you can put 'lots' of pressure on Peet at Siptronics, to get a programme!

Big Please?

Again, thanks for all!
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At that speed and those high revs I think the consumption is not bad at all. When the 5th gear is sorted I think your final figures will be very good, Jan !
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Hi

O/D still not working!

Problems at the moment:
- No O/D
- Apparently some sensor is fautly ( rev counter doesn't work, lights 'flickering' on & off on dash )
- Bakkie idling at +- 2600 rpm
- bad oil leak
- radiator pipe leaking
- & off course, feul consumption down to +- 4,7 km/l!

The bakkie is at 'Speed Tune' in Vereeniging & hopefully they can sort all out!

Not happy at all!
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Janna wrote:Hi

O/D still not working!

Problems at the moment:
- No O/D
- Apparently some sensor is fautly ( rev counter doesn't work, lights 'flickering' on & off on dash )
- Bakkie idling at +- 2600 rpm
- bad oil leak
- radiator pipe leaking
- & off course, feul consumption down to +- 4,7 km/l!

The bakkie is at 'Speed Tune' in Vereeniging & hopefully they can sort all out!

Not happy at all!
Sorry to hear about all your problems.....does not sound good at all :thumbdown:
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Jan, what happened, I thought Mark was sorting it out for you?
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unfortunately due to illness i could not pick the bakkie up when jan wanted it picked up ,
here goes the story
when it went to super tune ( dieter - very nice guy did speak to him on the phone ) he looked at it and put the bakkie on the dyno and it made 144kw on the wheels , but the rev counter and lights flickered , this was my fault as the 36-2 trigger wheel came loose on the pulley so the original crank sensor did not pick it up thus no revcounter /alt not charging / lights coming on / speed cruise not working as this all goes back to the original ecu .
now it went elsewhere where they said the coils are blown and the wiring is stuffed ( now this has me confused as you cannot dyno a vehicle with 11.5 - 12volts ) the alt needs to be charging , any way dieter got it back after they fitted 2 opel coils and leads and it made 122kw , now this has me even more confused as the problems where still there ( no rev conter / alt light on etc ) the only thing i can think off is they put the spitronics on internal trigger for the coils and this ( make no mistake ) will blow the coils.
dieter did buzz me and he did sort it very easily , now for the box , originally when the bakkie came in it snapped the crank at the same time destroying the torque convertor bush on the gearbox , so my only reckoning is if it selects 5th electrically but does not want to go in 5th then some of the white metal bearing might be stuck in the valve body ( maybe some auto boffins might be able to help here ) , the temp sensor is connected and shows the correct reading , the original throttle body was fitted to the 1uz to keep the drive by wire and the speed cruise , so no problem there , the rpm does show on the scanner , the road speed shows on the scanner as well as throttle position so im at a loss as to why it will not select fifth.
maybe someone has an idea as not even toy knows.
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Re: 2007 hilux for 1uz vvt

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well the new owner phoned me and thank heavens they put back the vvt coils and junked the the opel units , he wants to fit the 1uz throttle body as he is not worried about the speed cruise , but the original throttle body must still be plugged in as it will throw the gearbox into limp mode - just tuck it out of the way ( maybe in a small enclosure of some sort ) , i am giving him a 5 speed 2wd box as im sure the valve body should be the same as the 4wd and maybe this will sort the 5th gear issue , but according to him it goes well. and with the vvt throttle he should pick up more oomph.
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Re: 2007 hilux for 1uz vvt

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All of this just because you went aftermarket management :crazy: There is a much easier way and thats picking up a pre wired vvti thats running on the floor before you load with everything connected and working. Find units that have USA testing done on the power packs first thou.
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listen numb nuts , the lux was already auto with 4x4 , so yip where are you going to pick up a unit , the box was damaged before it even got here , crank snapped and destroyed the pump on the box , so will you stop whining about the aftermarket . flippin hell you are like a stuck record.
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Take it easy guys.. You EMS/ECU outjies are way too sensitive... :twisted: :twisted:
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thx thys totally agree , the lux had damage to the box and got towed in , yes with enough time i could have sorted out but the cussie wanted to go on holiday and did not want to listen that the problem could be with the box and not the electronics , and the spit had nothing to do with the box according to my scanner the original ecu was picking up rpm , temp , throttle position etc ( even the cruise control worked - albeit via the original v6 throttle body ) , as i was saying i can see on my laptop with a spit system as to what gear the box should be in but every toy agent i went to just shrugged their shoulders and told me they could not help .
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thx thys totally agree , the lux had damage to the box and got towed in , yes with enough time i could have sorted out but the cussie wanted to go on holiday and did not want to listen that the problem could be with the box and not the electronics , and the spit had nothing to do with the box according to my scanner the original ecu was picking up rpm , temp , throttle position etc ( even the cruise control worked - albeit via the original v6 throttle body ) , as i was saying i can see on my laptop with a spit system as to what gear the box should be in but every toy agent i went to just shrugged their shoulders and told me they could not help .
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Re: 2007 hilux for 1uz vvt

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Relax Mark, from what Iv seen you do a awsome job with these conversions and no one can say that it is always plain sailing due to the complexities involved in these projects. You then stick to what works best for you.
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Re: 2007 hilux for 1uz vvt

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fair derrick but why the stupid comments on lourens truck ( geel kameel perd ), rather get your stuff together and show us it works , run it yourself for a while and make sure its reliable then we can talk .
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Re: 2007 hilux for 1uz vvt

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You are 100 % right and I do apologise as it’s not my place to be making those kinds of calls when it comes to another mans vehicle. I will get my site going soon as Im waiting on the web site designers and please do add your comments in, let them be good or bad as one can only work on improving if they come back as negative.
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Re: 2007 hilux for 1uz vvt

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totally agree derrick , as i said you can jump into the market with something new but you have to prove first that its the real deal , i had vehicles in here with all sorts of ecus on and when i do a web search the guys have gone bust , i know exactly what you are talking about as ive been in the industrial instrumentation game for 25 years and i do my own software programming ( siemens , allen bradley , delta etc ) i still have my instrumentation side running doing material handling automation so when you start talking about pics etc i am on the same page.
but that all said yes go for it and see what happens , maybe it can be another option that we can offer customers but im not going to be test vehicle , if something goes wrong then the cussie looks at me not you.
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Re: 2007 hilux for 1uz vvt

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Take it easy cussie as I only use standard Lexus V8 ECM. I only bring in my power packs which are from a large company in the US. You won’t be the first as that was held for a mates super charged 8 on his colt running a 6 speed getrag. Go into my site as the banner is flying now on 4 x 4 and see what Im up to these days.
Really don’t want things to go the way it did 3 years ago when it was STD vs AFM and guys were leaving the site because of it. I will admit that I was also very much a part of throwing the first rocks around on here and not going there again. You like what Im doing than cool. You want aftermarket than cool.
Flying a banner on this site also runs a lot deeper than just sales for me.
I will open a topic in the commercial adds and keep it short with regards to any info you guys need on the system. Im at the end under V8 Solid. Thanks gents.
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