Rokarok Lives - First drive

krazy_kameleon · Post by **krazy_kameleon** » Mon Nov 08, 2010 4:20 pm

So, I finally sold my old Golf and the Minister of Home Affairs has given me a pass to respay Rokarok:

This afternoon I decided to strip out the interior to have a look

Rokarok in all her ugly glory

Looking good, so far...

so far, so good...

hmmm, not so good...

starting to find some nasty surprises

broken seat bracket

a half-brick inside the passenger door?!!??!

all stripped out - and lots of work to do now!!!!!

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Mon Nov 08, 2010 5:41 pm

Eish...seems like a Chip Foose project to me... :wink2:

Blackadder · Post by **Blackadder** » Mon Nov 08, 2010 6:06 pm

You took out the brick...???.......You NEVER EVER take out the brick...

ChrisF · Post by **ChrisF** » Mon Nov 08, 2010 7:17 pm

OOOOMS wrote:Eish...seems like a Chip Foose project to me... :wink2:

next stop, of to the bead blasters ....

then for all thos elovely FREE spares .....

mens kan seker maar droom.

LoneRanger · Post by **LoneRanger** » Mon Nov 08, 2010 7:35 pm

right now you put a plastic garden chair in the drivers position and drive it to the nearest sand blast and spray booth place

ToyX4 · Post by **ToyX4** » Mon Nov 08, 2010 7:52 pm

The brick was there to counter the famous right sidewards lean of the Hilux

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Mon Nov 08, 2010 9:22 pm

ToyX4 wrote:The brick was there to counter the famous right sidewards lean of the Hilux

Now wonder what you gonna do if you find the other half....

Why on earth would someone put a half brick in the door....????

Post by **CasKru** » Tue Nov 09, 2010 7:33 am

OOOOMS wrote:
ToyX4 wrote:The brick was there to counter the famous right sidewards lean of the Hilux
Now wonder what you gonna do if you find the other half....

Why on earth would someone put a half brick in the door....????

They should have stashed the whole kilo.....

GeorgeJvR · Post by **GeorgeJvR** » Tue Nov 09, 2010 7:56 am

Haal maar die dash en bedrading uit voor jy die interior sandblast en spraypaint, glo my jy sukkel jou alie af om al daai stof uit die koneksies te kry.

krazy_kameleon · Post by **krazy_kameleon** » Tue Nov 09, 2010 1:02 pm

Pulled out all the glass...

... and dropped off for a THOROUGH sandblasing

krazy_kameleon · Post by **krazy_kameleon** » Tue Nov 09, 2010 1:10 pm

OOOOMS wrote:
ToyX4 wrote:The brick was there to counter the famous right sidewards lean of the Hilux
Now wonder what you gonna do if you find the other half....

Why on earth would someone put a half brick in the door....????

one can only wonder OOOMS, only wonder...

Jaco Versfeld · Post by **Jaco Versfeld** » Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:36 pm

Hi Rick,

Would it be possible to provide us with a breakdown of who is doing what work, and also costs involved. Mufasa will also need some TLC soon.

Thanks

krazy_kameleon · Post by **krazy_kameleon** » Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:00 pm

Hi Jaco,

sure, can do a breakdown at the end.
most labour work will be done by myself and friends so costs their will be a little skewed.

so far the stripping was free
sandblasting is R2K (ouch) will try negotiate with cash

will keep all posted on progress...

krazy_kameleon · Post by **krazy_kameleon** » Wed Nov 10, 2010 4:02 pm

UPDATE: Busy with sand blasting

Maddoglips · Post by **Maddoglips** » Wed Nov 10, 2010 4:10 pm

You got B......s, I'd be too scared to go look :shifty:

Looking at the pics though, you gonna probs have to replace your seat belts now as that stuff gets in everywhere and sooner or later they'll probs give up the ghost.

Keep us posted on the progress and best of luck - you are a BRAVE man

krazy_kameleon · Post by **krazy_kameleon** » Wed Nov 10, 2010 4:26 pm

My sentiments exactly! I was wondering what I have got myself into!

Oh well, only one way to go now and thats to get it done.

as for the seatbelts - I have purchased the interior from an Alfa 147 and the seats have seatbelt clips built onto the chairs so I will be fitting the Alfa seat belts to match. Why Alfa seats? my brother-in-law had one and when I borrowed his car, they were the most comfortable seats I have ever sat in! watch for that thread soon...

krazy_kameleon · Post by **krazy_kameleon** » Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:26 pm

So Rokarok is back from blasting and I'm considering moving this thread from "The Workshop" to "Humour" because this must be a joke

the BuTch3R · Post by **the BuTch3R** » Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:31 pm

Ja, boet!. Ignorance is bliss :|

krazy_kameleon · Post by **krazy_kameleon** » Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:31 pm

krazy_kameleon · Post by **krazy_kameleon** » Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:35 pm

Oh Well, there is only one way out now - and at least when its done I will KNOW it is done right.

By the way, does anyone know the significance of this number that is stamped at the base of the tailgate

Maddoglips · Post by **Maddoglips** » Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:42 pm

:evil:

Rick, OUWCH is about all I can say.

Guess you have just convinced me that sandblasting is not always the way to go :!:

Are you planning on repairing or on finding another cab?

Best of luck either way and keep us posted.

krazy_kameleon · Post by **krazy_kameleon** » Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:51 pm

...Time to break out the welder and the lead!

I dont really want to take a chance on another cab, pay to have it blasted and sit in a similar situation.

to be honest, the shock value is quite great but it looks worse than it is, I've seen FAR worse. the main issue is the time it takes to weld or braze, then lead sweat and sikaflex seal etc.

...and to think I was planning on having it for the Barakah GTG - NO CHANCE!

anyway will keep all posted on progress as I get it done

Maddoglips · Post by **Maddoglips** » Fri Nov 12, 2010 2:04 pm

Rick

Who will be doing the lead wiping for you?

Further, is body work just a hobby or is there a history behind your drive?

I defi take my hat off to you for being so positive and still seeing chance to tackle the job

Good luck

krazy_kameleon · Post by **krazy_kameleon** » Fri Nov 12, 2010 2:22 pm

Hey Zane,

Me and a mate will do the lead wiping. I will use a combination of lead and poly
I will use lead to fill all the holes left by the rust but poly to get the panels straight.
Its not that much of a collectors item to warrant the time and expense of lead on the panels.

Body work is not a particular hobby but I am one of those disgruntled folk that is tired of being let down by so called "professionals"
I don't consider myself as an expert in anything but I am fairly "handy". When I pay a "professional" to do a job I expect that its at least better than I would have been able to do it myself and more often than not I have found that standards these days are so low that I end up with what I consider to be a secound rate job and then we all end up fighting because the "professional" feels I am being unreasonable and I feel "ripped-off". This doesn't just apply to body work but accountants, lawyers, doctors, plumbers, electricians etc etc etc.

I am by no means labeling all tradesmen out there because there are some really bright skilled people out there and the projects that have been done by the forum members here bear testament to the workmanship that is possible. it is just unfortunately been my experience of late.

Have a great weekend and look out for some more updates by the end of next week.

The Legend · Post by **The Legend** » Fri Nov 12, 2010 3:06 pm

Hi Rick

Wouldnt it be more cost effective to look for an 2nd hand cab and load bin at scrapyards with nothing or less rust?

krazy_kameleon · Post by **krazy_kameleon** » Fri Nov 12, 2010 3:25 pm

Dawie, the load bins not too bad - but depending on what I can find - I may replace the cab

watch this space...

krazy_kameleon · Post by **krazy_kameleon** » Fri Nov 12, 2010 3:46 pm

was just quoted R3500 for just a roof!

looks like I'm going to get a lot of practice welding...

NicoP · Post by **NicoP** » Fri Nov 12, 2010 3:55 pm

This is a big job. best of luck and cant wait for an update next week.
This will make any owner think twice before their babies go to sandblasting

Hi-Hilux · Post by **Hi-Hilux** » Fri Nov 12, 2010 5:56 pm

Sterkte, kan nie lekker wees om dit te ervaar nie.

Stef · Post by **Stef** » Fri Nov 12, 2010 7:44 pm

Sjoe Rick... :wth:

Sterkte ou maat!!

Is daai dak se hoeke nou maar net geroes of is die dak vervang?
Wat van IFS cab & load bin ? Jy sal die eerste wees...

Traveler · Post by **Traveler** » Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:52 pm

Rick, all that I can remark is good luck. This will be a monster project.

yotaman · Post by **yotaman** » Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:30 pm

One thing I now know 4 sure is that a brick don't prevent rust!

krazy_kameleon · Post by **krazy_kameleon** » Thu Nov 18, 2010 8:45 am

yotaman wrote:One thing I now know 4 sure is that a brick don't prevent rust!

Traveler · Post by **Traveler** » Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:09 am

yotaman wrote:One thing I now know 4 sure is that a brick don't prevent rust!

Now that is disappointing, I'll go and get that brick out Dreadnought that I put in it last night.

krazy_kameleon · Post by **krazy_kameleon** » Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:11 am

...and with the weight saving, squeeze out an extra kay or 2 per liter ;)

krazy_kameleon · Post by **krazy_kameleon** » Mon Nov 22, 2010 12:28 pm

Some updated pics - we started on the bonnet. its a good way to work up the courage for the other parts

2.8 d/cab SFA · Post by **2.8 d/cab SFA** » Mon Nov 22, 2010 12:42 pm

wow really wow, think everyone like to do that but too scared too, ignorance is bliss

Post by **Mud Dog** » Mon Nov 22, 2010 12:44 pm

Looks like there's a lot of pitting on that bonnet ....why did you blank out that edge? Too bad for sensitive viewers?

krazy_kameleon · Post by **krazy_kameleon** » Mon Nov 22, 2010 12:45 pm

yes John.

I was NEVER expecting it to be such a big project but there is only one way out and that is straight on through to the other side (hey! isn't that a "DOORS" song ;) )

krazy_kameleon · Post by **krazy_kameleon** » Mon Nov 22, 2010 12:48 pm

Andy, forgot to change the date on the camera :p

bonnet was quite dented in so we gave it a good beating from the other side to get all the dents out.
Now we 'tap' it back down to shape and then smooth with grinder and finish with hand file.
light skim with poly aftrewards and a nice new coat of paint or ten

Traveler · Post by **Traveler** » Mon Nov 22, 2010 1:40 pm

Rick, good luck, this seems to be a grey hair project.

The Legend · Post by **The Legend** » Sun Dec 19, 2010 11:09 am

Hi Rick

How is things going on with your project?

krazy_kameleon · Post by **krazy_kameleon** » Mon Feb 07, 2011 5:01 pm

Hi All time an update...

Well the workshop that I had my truck out changed owners and my mate who was the manager there was bombed just before Christmas. They then told me that they "don't want this kind of work there" and told me to get it out.

Well as you can imagine this caused me a bit of a problem and I ended up driving out a sandblasted truck which broke a front prop and cracked the transfer case on the way back, leaving me stranded between Vereeniging and Alberton. see my thread "Help - broke propshaft and cracked transfer caseIt took me a few days to arrange a tow back to my plot. No paint, no glass and lots of rain equals one rust brown Hilux inside and out top to bottom. by this time I was REALLY demotivated but managed to find another workshop that was understanding and last week the work recomenced.

Below are a few more pics of the progress. This week we will remove the body and redo the chassis while we are at it. I am also making new mounts to fit the KZTE Radiator that she runs.

Rebel 4x4 · Post by **Rebel 4x4** » Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:00 pm

Sorry to hear about having to move from workshop, if it doesn't rain, it poars...

Post by **Mud Dog** » Mon Feb 07, 2011 9:15 pm

Oh Kakerlak! Hope you don't have too much to re-do (rusty areas), and that you can get the x-fer case / front prop sorted without too much hassle.

krazy_kameleon · Post by **krazy_kameleon** » Fri Feb 11, 2011 10:44 am

So a few more pics - removed the load bin.

decided to redo the chassis while I'm at it

will remove the cab on Monday, will finish all welding this weekend.

more updates next week....

Stef · Post by **Stef** » Fri Feb 11, 2011 1:40 pm

krazy_kameleon wrote:they "don't want this kind of work there" and told me to get it out.

So are they turning into a valet service then? Or is you lux not good enough to stand next to the fancy cars?

Post by **Mud Dog** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 7:00 am

Rick, having the front jack stands under the hubs rather than under the axle might not be so stable, especially if you're doing work that tends to 'shake' the bakkie. Just my 2CW.

Post by **Family_Dog** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 8:52 am

I wondered about that too...

-F_D

2.8 d/cab SFA · Post by **2.8 d/cab SFA** » Sun Feb 13, 2011 8:38 am

well done

krazy_kameleon · Post by **krazy_kameleon** » Mon Feb 14, 2011 9:45 am

Thanks for the safety tips - I have moved them to a more stable place :)

krazy_kameleon · Post by **krazy_kameleon** » Mon Feb 14, 2011 9:48 am

Stef wrote:
krazy_kameleon wrote:they "don't want this kind of work there" and told me to get it out.
So are they turning into a valet service then? Or is you lux not good enough to stand next to the fancy cars?

Thats what I thought too. so if its anything more then a superficial scratch or, heaven forbid, a dent, its beyond their scope of expertise.

its the same as these modern workshops:
plug-in diagnostics
decode fault
order part
fit overpriced expensive part because a 20c seal is cracked
a good tradesman is a dying breed...

sir shrek · Post by **sir shrek** » Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:20 pm

Hi Rick. Did you replace your roof skin or did you weld up all those cheese holes ?

krazy_kameleon · Post by **krazy_kameleon** » Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:03 pm

Hi Claude,

We welded up all the "Cheese Holes" see pics below...

almost ready for final prime and then for the base coat clear coat (4E9) Landcruiser beige

Mr_B · Post by **Mr_B** » Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:05 pm

Wow!

Are you willing to do another...

krazy_kameleon · Post by **krazy_kameleon** » Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:06 pm

and some more...

the bonnet nearly completed

and the dash, stripped out

krazy_kameleon · Post by **krazy_kameleon** » Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:12 pm

Mr B, I would nt go so far as to say "never again" but I am pretty close to that point.

If I had known just how much work and cash was going to have been involved I would never have started.

The trouble is that to do a job, you first have to do something else and then while you are doing that you say "well I migt as well just do the chassis while I'm at it" or fit that new motor or replace the dash or fit an aircon etc etc and you need to know when to stop or the money runs out and you are left with a very expensive pile of scrap metal.

My job list includes:

redo chassis and brake pipes
fit new brown dash - goes with the colour I have chosen
new chrome grill and side markers
redo transfer case
weld up and overhaul gearbox
axle move (Louis megaworld)
redo front hubs (Louis Megaworld)
reshape leafpacks (Louis again) until I can get Mikem set up
weld-in leaf pedestal braces (Louis yet again)

Phew!

The Legend · Post by **The Legend** » Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:18 pm

krazy_kameleon wrote:Mr B, I would nt go so far as to say "never again" but I am pretty close to that point.

If I had known just how much work and cash was going to have been involved I would never have started.

The trouble is that to do a job, you first have to do something else and then while you are doing that you say "well I migt as well just do the chassis while I'm at it" or fit that new motor or replace the dash or fit an aircon etc etc and you need to know when to stop or the money runs out and you are left with a very expensive pile of scrap metal.

My job list includes:

redo chassis and brake pipes
fit new brown dash - goes with the colour I have chosen
new chrome grill and side markers
redo transfer case
weld up and overhaul gearbox
axle move (Louis megaworld)
redo front hubs (Louis Megaworld)
reshape leafpacks (Louis again) until I can get Mikem set up
weld-in leaf pedestal braces (Louis yet again)

Phew!

Rick

You havent got the right brown bucket in
dashbord for me

Maddoglips · Post by **Maddoglips** » Wed Feb 16, 2011 7:08 pm

Rick

HATS OFF to you M8

Looking brilliant so far

Keep us posted and hope all falls in place, you defi haven't spared the effort.

krazy_kameleon · Post by **krazy_kameleon** » Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:33 pm

Thanks Zane, hows your project coming?

Claude, I need to see what I get with the new dash. when I'm done I will make a list of the left overs and post it up

watch this space...