Gooseneck on Trailer

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Mon May 28, 2012 2:24 pm

We acquired a bicycle rack this weekend (Thule 3-bike, fits onto gooseneck and can swivel to provide access to canopy). I would now like to attach a gooseneck to my offroad trailer (modified Venter), so that I can attach the rack to it should we take the trailer on holiday as well. Will the trailer's chassis be strong enough or will I have to reinforce it first? Where can I have something like this done?
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Mon May 28, 2012 2:32 pm

If possible, load a picture of where you want to fix the gooseneck to the trailer.

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Mon May 28, 2012 2:47 pm

Thanks Jacques, I'll do that.
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• ARB Bullbar
• Safari Snorkel
• GearMax Rear Locker
• National Luna Dual Battery System
• Dragon 29 MHz with 2.6m whip
• Front Runner bakkie slide
• 31" BFG MT's

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'06 Hilux 4.0 V6 4X4 D/Cab

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• Eurolux 1500W inverter
• Midas driving lights
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• National Luna 80l fridge/freezer
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Mon May 28, 2012 3:09 pm

Reinforce and fit........ :thumbup: as the tow bar on a car or bakkie is stronger than the frame of your trailer...........
Should be an easy diy :thumbup: :thumbup:
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Mon May 28, 2012 3:31 pm

MOFASA wrote:Reinforce and fit........ :thumbup: as the tow bar on a car or bakkie is stronger than the frame of your trailer...........
Should be an easy diy :thumbup: :thumbup:
...aaaaand that's where my problems start - I'm not really a DIY kind of guy. I always end up making something that doesn't work and looks ugly and then have to get someone to fix it. :oops: But I have friends who can help me there! :thumbup:
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'98 Hilux 2.8D 4X4 D/Cab

• ARB Bullbar
• Safari Snorkel
• GearMax Rear Locker
• National Luna Dual Battery System
• Dragon 29 MHz with 2.6m whip
• Front Runner bakkie slide
• 31" BFG MT's

Hings (Everyday use and long distance travel)
'06 Hilux 4.0 V6 4X4 D/Cab

• Level-it kit (Front)
• Custom integrated bullbar
• Custom replacement bumper
• Eurolux 1500W inverter
• Midas driving lights
• Front Runner bakkie slide
• National Luna 80l fridge/freezer
• National Luna Dual Battery System
• LA Sport 70l long range tank
• 31" BFG AT's

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Mon May 28, 2012 3:51 pm

oxydog wrote: ...aaaaand that's where my problems start - I'm not really a DIY kind of guy. I always end up making something that doesn't work and looks ugly and then have to get someone to fix it. :oops: But I have friends who can help me there! :thumbup:
Hmmmmmmmmm ok well ask the friends.......... :thumbup: :thumbup:
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Mon May 28, 2012 4:08 pm

Cool man, thanks for the advice.
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'98 Hilux 2.8D 4X4 D/Cab

• ARB Bullbar
• Safari Snorkel
• GearMax Rear Locker
• National Luna Dual Battery System
• Dragon 29 MHz with 2.6m whip
• Front Runner bakkie slide
• 31" BFG MT's

Hings (Everyday use and long distance travel)
'06 Hilux 4.0 V6 4X4 D/Cab

• Level-it kit (Front)
• Custom integrated bullbar
• Custom replacement bumper
• Eurolux 1500W inverter
• Midas driving lights
• Front Runner bakkie slide
• National Luna 80l fridge/freezer
• National Luna Dual Battery System
• LA Sport 70l long range tank
• 31" BFG AT's

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Tue May 29, 2012 10:53 am

As promised...
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Bees (Toy)
'98 Hilux 2.8D 4X4 D/Cab

• ARB Bullbar
• Safari Snorkel
• GearMax Rear Locker
• National Luna Dual Battery System
• Dragon 29 MHz with 2.6m whip
• Front Runner bakkie slide
• 31" BFG MT's

Hings (Everyday use and long distance travel)
'06 Hilux 4.0 V6 4X4 D/Cab

• Level-it kit (Front)
• Custom integrated bullbar
• Custom replacement bumper
• Eurolux 1500W inverter
• Midas driving lights
• Front Runner bakkie slide
• National Luna 80l fridge/freezer
• National Luna Dual Battery System
• LA Sport 70l long range tank
• 31" BFG AT's

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Tue May 29, 2012 10:59 am

By the looks of it you don't need much improvement on the frame where you want to fix the goose neck, if it is only M Bikes you want to carry.

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Tue May 29, 2012 12:25 pm

jacques kotze wrote:By the looks of it you don't need much improvement on the frame where you want to fix the goose neck, if it is only M Bikes you want to carry.
That would be great, Jacques. Yip, just the 3 bikes.
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'98 Hilux 2.8D 4X4 D/Cab

• ARB Bullbar
• Safari Snorkel
• GearMax Rear Locker
• National Luna Dual Battery System
• Dragon 29 MHz with 2.6m whip
• Front Runner bakkie slide
• 31" BFG MT's

Hings (Everyday use and long distance travel)
'06 Hilux 4.0 V6 4X4 D/Cab

• Level-it kit (Front)
• Custom integrated bullbar
• Custom replacement bumper
• Eurolux 1500W inverter
• Midas driving lights
• Front Runner bakkie slide
• National Luna 80l fridge/freezer
• National Luna Dual Battery System
• LA Sport 70l long range tank
• 31" BFG AT's

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Tue May 29, 2012 1:29 pm

Hi M8

If you planning on fixing to the "steps" square frame, I would recommend putting in a cross brace either side just to give that bit extra.

If you planning on taking the 3 bikes with offroading, the jolting could be abit much otherwise.

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Tue May 29, 2012 8:38 pm

How thick is the material where the two bolts go through the valance under the tailgate? :think:

This area of the frame's mounting is where it becomes critical. Instead of just the two lugsw and two bolts I would rather weld in a longer section of 5 x 30mm flat bar (about half the width of the trailer) centrally positioned of course, with at least 5 bolts. Then it should be able to withstand jolts with the 3 MT bikes loaded. A lot still would depend on how secure the valance itself is.

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Wed May 30, 2012 12:15 pm

Andy, I'll check the material.

On the other hand, I'm just thinking - if that step can support my body weight (which is currently under 80 kg's because I was in hospital for 3 weeks, but normally closer to 90 kg's), surely the brackets supporting that will also support a gooseneck, bicycle rack and 3 Mountain Bikes? Or is this theory flawed?
Bees (Toy)
'98 Hilux 2.8D 4X4 D/Cab

• ARB Bullbar
• Safari Snorkel
• GearMax Rear Locker
• National Luna Dual Battery System
• Dragon 29 MHz with 2.6m whip
• Front Runner bakkie slide
• 31" BFG MT's

Hings (Everyday use and long distance travel)
'06 Hilux 4.0 V6 4X4 D/Cab

• Level-it kit (Front)
• Custom integrated bullbar
• Custom replacement bumper
• Eurolux 1500W inverter
• Midas driving lights
• Front Runner bakkie slide
• National Luna 80l fridge/freezer
• National Luna Dual Battery System
• LA Sport 70l long range tank
• 31" BFG AT's

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Wed May 30, 2012 1:51 pm

oxydog wrote:Andy, I'll check the material.

On the other hand, I'm just thinking - if that step can support my body weight (which is currently under 80 kg's because I was in hospital for 3 weeks, but normally closer to 90 kg's), surely the brackets supporting that will also support a gooseneck, bicycle rack and 3 Mountain Bikes? Or is this theory flawed?
Jarus my advice will be to make it as strong as possible. 3 bikes while jolting around creates a lot of energy. I have lost a rack before.Not the goosneck but the frame itself. Even try to fix it right at the top of the rack to the trailer.
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Wed May 30, 2012 3:21 pm

George, you're probably right. Rather over-engineer it than run the risk of losing it with the bikes! I know I won't be doing any overly rough terrain with the bikes on, but still, not worth taking any chances.
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'98 Hilux 2.8D 4X4 D/Cab

• ARB Bullbar
• Safari Snorkel
• GearMax Rear Locker
• National Luna Dual Battery System
• Dragon 29 MHz with 2.6m whip
• Front Runner bakkie slide
• 31" BFG MT's

Hings (Everyday use and long distance travel)
'06 Hilux 4.0 V6 4X4 D/Cab

• Level-it kit (Front)
• Custom integrated bullbar
• Custom replacement bumper
• Eurolux 1500W inverter
• Midas driving lights
• Front Runner bakkie slide
• National Luna 80l fridge/freezer
• National Luna Dual Battery System
• LA Sport 70l long range tank
• 31" BFG AT's

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