IFS Suspension Upgrade Old Man Emu

4x4Maniac · Post by **4x4Maniac** » Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:09 pm

So ek het finaal besluit ek gaan eerder die full suspension upgrade doen op my KZTE...
Met spacers en CV angles wat nie reg is nie, retension van blades, met ekstra blades, spacer hier, spacer daar, disconnect hierso, disconnect daarso, en, en, en...

OME is duur maar kan dit verkeerd loop?

Ek gaan dit doen in stages oor 3-4 maande... Eers Torsion bars, dan Vere, dan shocks...

So ek begin more middag met die Torsions...

Hieronder is n paar pryse van ander opsies wat ek oorweeg het:
Ironman Nitrogas R16300 met installasie
Ironman Foam cell R18300 met installasie
EFS met instalasie R17100
Oldman EMU Nitrogas sport R18400 installasie (10% afslag)
Mikem R18500 met installasie

Wat is julle opinies? Miskien maak ek nou n blik wurms oop?

Een ding is verseker: binnekort adverteer ek 2de handse Torsions, leave springs en shocks (dis nou as iemand 2de handse shocks wil he...

Ek het volledige afmetings gedoen en sal fotos en als post van die vordering...

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:22 pm

My persoonlike keuse en sal die volgende upgrade wees: Mikem

4x4Maniac · Post by **4x4Maniac** » Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:33 pm

Mark jy het IM in ne? Hoe is hulle in vergelyking met die standaard Vigo sin?

Mikem het wel die Billsteins met serviceable shocks, miskien n kombinasie van OME en Billsteins?

Of n extended shackle op die OME vere? Weet iemand of die OME shocks langer/korter is as due Bullsteins?

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:54 pm

4x4Maniac wrote:Mark jy het IM in ne? Hoe is hulle in vergelyking met die standaard Vigo sin?

Mikem het wel die Billsteins met serviceable shocks, miskien n kombinasie van OME en Billsteins?

Of n extended shackle op die OME vere? Weet iemand of die OME shocks langer/korter is as due Bullsteins?

Ja ek het IM IN, dit is heeltemal korrek.

Groot verskil tussen standaard Toyota en upgraded ! Dra jy kennis van die verskillende shocks beskikbaar (aftermarket) soft, med, firm?

Kombinasie....kan nie kommentaar lewer nie. Al wat ek wel kan se, en gesien het is dat die "ander" aftermarket suspensions nie naby Mikem s'n kom nie.

Die "ander" kom almal van cjina.....Bilstein beweer van EU.

Die adjustable pla my nou nie eintlik nie, dis meer 'n bonus imo

4x4Maniac · Post by **4x4Maniac** » Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:11 pm

Nie heeltemal geweet van die verskillende opsies nie, net van die vere se kapasiteit 250kg/500kg. Is daar in al die reekse beskikbaar OME/IM? Bv in IM weet ek jy kry die foam en nitrogas maar gedog dit is net nuwer/beter tegnologie. Wat sal die beste wees? Sag of medium? Ek sal nie graag te hard wil gaan nie aangesien my lorrie nie gebou is vir n race track nie.

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:26 pm

4x4Maniac wrote:Nie heeltemal geweet van die verskillende opsies nie, net van die vere se kapasiteit 250kg/500kg. Is daar in al die reekse beskikbaar OME/IM? Bv in IM weet ek jy kry die foam en nitrogas maar gedog dit is net nuwer/beter tegnologie. Wat sal die beste wees? Sag of medium? Ek sal nie graag te hard wil gaan nie aangesien my lorrie nie gebou is vir n race track nie.

Ek weet met IM se vere, kry jy:
Comfort - saL basies beteken useless imho (dit was oorspronklik op my lorrie toe ek hom gekoop het) Jy kan niks laai of geen vrag dra, nie eens 'n canopy nie.)
Medium load: Canopy alleenlik
Heavy duty: Canopy en vrag

Ek is nie 100% seker van OME nie maar dik dis die selle setup as IM.

Sag het sy voordele en nadele. Sag = meer sway Hard = minder sway as jy gelaai is.
Onglukkig kan mens nie 'best of both worlds he nie'. Sou nice wees maar dis 'n 4x4 :wink2:

Meeste van jou gemaks rit kom van voor (vir die drywer) so sag / medium voor klink vir my sal jou dalk beter pas.

Post by **george** » Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:35 pm

Hi Werner
Ek het voor my trippie die mikem roete gegaan. Vere agter en torsion bars.Ek het voor dit onlangs Gabriels shocks ingesit so het nie shocks vervang nie.Dit het so 8k uitgewerk.Is ek tevrede. Hel YES

Ek het vir die heavy duties gegaan want ek is op die oomblik taamlik oorlaai

Baie baie tevrede

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:37 pm

Another thing.

Important: have a good look around, ask many questions like you are doing now and sure you are doing that. It's a lot of dosh to spend on your truck.

I would rather spend R4K on Gabriel shocks than RXX on aftermarket cjinese stuff :!:

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:39 pm

Sorry George, see I posted same time as you.....

Post by **george** » Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:40 pm

OOOOMS wrote:Another thing.

Important: have a good look around, ask many questions like you are doing now and sure you are doing that. It's a lot of dosh to spend on your truck.

I would rather spend R4K on Gabriel shocks than RXX on aftermarket cjinese stuff :!:

Have to agree with Mark

What I also like about Mikem that it is double wrapped at the leaf springs

Post by **george** » Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:41 pm

OOOOMS wrote:Sorry George, see I posted same time as you.....

SNAP

4x4Maniac · Post by **4x4Maniac** » Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:58 pm

Dankie, epvir die input ek dink nie ek sal sommer IM gaan nie, dit is nou net n battle tussen OME en Mikem... Ek moet ongelukkig die shocks ook nog vervang, al n goeie 80k km op hulle gesit. Is Gabriel Safaris.

As ons net praat van Torsions, wat sou jule verkies? OME of Mikem R3500 vs R2500 vir die Mikems. My huidige torsions is klaar op gestel.

Wonder nou waar is die OME biased ouens...

:mrgreen:

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:11 pm

Sorry, your other question was about extended shackles.

I went this route, as with my Heavy Duty blades rear after my van was loaded (I mean heavily loaded) somewhere in the region of 800kg's

My van was hanging a bit.

So fitted the extended shackles (greasable) gained unloaded 35mm at the back and 10mm front. Now when the van is loaded she can like to be level

Pic loaded before extended shackles:

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Fully loaded(note x2 tents) and more with extended shackles:

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Note: No difference with ride or stability of vehicle what so ever :!:

What I would like to add is, try and find a contact of an importer.....and then you will really know how much these aftermarket suspensions are really costing the retailer.......

PM me and I will tell you, before I get killed

WayneSchalk · Post by **WayneSchalk** » Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:14 pm

Vir wat dit werd is, ek het Gabriel Safari HDP in gesit om rede hulle so bitjie langer is as die normale Safari's wat ek gehaad het, ook die wat ek in gehaad het agter was die selfde lengte aan altwee kante so was ook nie die regtes gewees nie.

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:21 pm

WayneSchalk wrote:Vir wat dit werd is, ek het Gabriel Safari HDP in gesit om rede hulle so bitjie langer is as die normale Safari's wat ek gehaad het, ook die wat ek in gehaad het agter was die selfde lengte aan altwee kante so was ook nie die regtes gewees nie.

Net om te bewys ek's nie brand bias nie, soos dit mag voorkom, maar soos Wayne gedoen het is ook 'n goeie opsie om na te kyk

My IM suspensie soos op die fotos hier bo. is getoets deur Mikem 'free' en na 100 000km is hulle nog steed fine. Test passed by Mikem en daar het ek gedink hy wou aan my 'n stel shocks verkoop.....maar ek was vebaas en verkeerd, Tx Mikem

ATH · Post by **ATH** » Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:32 pm

I am learning ... Thx Guys, this is good reading.

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:35 pm

Note: After market suspensions are better than the standard.

But, I do not believe for one moment the cost they are ripping the 4x4 community off justifies it by a mile :wink2:

ATH · Post by **ATH** » Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:45 pm

As a newcomer to 4x4 cost-to-kit-out I am learning that there is a lot of DIY that can be done to get a bit more out of a small budget! Perhaps we should have a new section for suppliers into the 4x4 aftermarket arena that do not rip the proverbial bottom out of "it"

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:53 pm

ATH wrote:As a newcomer to 4x4 cost-to-kit-out I am learning that there is a lot of DIY that can be done to get a bit more out of a small budget! Perhaps we should have a new section for suppliers into the 4x4 aftermarket arena that do not rip the proverbial bottom out of "it"

Yeh rite, that would be great in the real world!

Albany here we come :wink2:

4x4Maniac · Post by **4x4Maniac** » Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:53 pm

Ek glo daar is definitief beter local support op Mikems as met OME...

Watse guarantee kry n mens op die Mikem btw?

As ons net praat van vere Medium 250kg dan kyk ek na R6400 vs R5800 OME vs Mikem. So dit is net die shocks wat so goeie R2500 verskil -Billsteins wat so duur is.

Ek dink ek sal moet die heavy duty vat, want die canopy moet ook nog kom.

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:01 pm

Ek's nie seker oor die Mikem garantee gee nie, Mikem sal moet klaar.

Net om jou 'n idee te gee die prys wat jy bo gekwoteer het vir het my R11k goekoper gekos

Dis scary :!: :!: :!:

Johannes van die See · Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:05 pm

Los die torsion bars, dis nie nodig om hulle te vervang nie!
Ek het full OME behalwe die torsions en ek se jou my torsions is nog so styf soos n honeymoon jan.
Daar is baie min verskul tussen die OME of Ironman torsion en die hilux torsion wat net n rapsie dinner is.

Doen voor die ball joint spacers, die swaybar disconnects en baie balangruk, die diff drop spacers,
Ager is net die langer swing shackles nodig saam met wat ookal aftermarket suspension wat jy gaan kies.

Dit wat ek alles hier noem het ek sopas gebruik op die Road To Hell trip en enige iemand wat se die SFA bakkies het beter as myne perform praat strooi,

As jy die TrueTrack locker doen, maak net seker die standaard regter kort sideshaft lock binne in die locker en kom nie van self uit nie, as jy probleme het daarmee kontak my gerus.

4x4Maniac · Post by **4x4Maniac** » Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:28 pm

Mark se jy die IM was so R11k goekoper toe jy hulle gekoop het of die Mikems sal jou nou R11k minder kos? Want Mikems is maar net so duur...

Johan, ek hoor wat jy se ivm die spacers, maar is nogsteeds van mening dit is half n hack! Nie n groot fan van dit nie. Ek weet baie vd ouens op die forum is heel happy met dit, maar ek sal graag upgraded torsions wil op sit. Jy weet daai gesegde van nuwe besems vee altyd skoner. Ek sal wel kyk hoe die nuwe suspension doen en dalk nogsteeds extended shackles op sit en dalk nog spacers ook...

Dankie oor die Front locker ek sal dit wardeer. Vir eers is dit die suspension agv die grooter tyres 31" en die ARB bullbar en winch wat my neus n bietjie laat hang.

OOOOMS · Post by **OOOOMS** » Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:43 pm

Die IM was R11k goedkoper as wat jy bo gekwoteer is.

Dit kon eenige brand gewees het, teen daai prys het ek dit met 'n smile gekoop. Nuut inni boks (nie van trok af nie) Met invoice van invoerder Cost + 10%

WayneSchalk · Post by **WayneSchalk** » Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:59 pm

WayneSchalk wrote:Vir wat dit werd is, ek het Gabriel Safari HDP in gesit om rede hulle so bitjie langer is as die normale Safari's wat ek gehaad het, ook die wat ek in gehaad het agter was die selfde lengte aan altwee kante so was ook nie die regtes gewees nie.

Ek wil net by noem, die HDP's is met n 3 jaar warranty.

Ek het maar die balljoint spacers, sway bar disconnects en spacers, en die extended shackles agter.

Die HDP's was R3800 vir die 4

3 Blind Monkeys · Post by **3 Blind Monkeys** » Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:08 pm

Ek het OME's op my vigo en vind my gat hang ook as ek gelaai is en het gedink aan die air helpers, maar die koste is 'n bietjie meer as wat ek bereid is om te spandeer. Aan die einde van 'n trip ry my van die lekkerste, in die begin stamp die suspension agter as jy net 'n dippie normale spoed deurgaan waar aan die einde van 'n trip kan ek dieselfde dip vinniger deur gaan sonder dat hy stamp. Is dit makliker om net 'n extra veer in te sit of wat sal die oplossing wees?

4x4Maniac · Post by **4x4Maniac** » Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:17 pm

Ok cool, so here are my (I mean my bakkie's measurements)

I currently have standard IFS suspension with slightly lifted Torsions. An ARB Bullbar and winch, with an under carriage Intercooler and bashplate. So all this is a lot of weight in the front. I also put 31' BFG's with 15" rims (standard) and the wheels are currently catching the bodywork on some axle twisters.

Measurement taken from:
1. Ground to bottom of wheel arch.
2. Bottom of rim to bottom of wheel arch.
3. Middle of hubcap to bottom of wheel arch.
4. Top of rim to bottom of wheel arch.

Front Passenger side Front Driver side
1. 88cm 88.5cm
2. 72.5cm 73cm
3. 52.5cm 53cm
4. 32cm 32.5cm

Back Passenger side Back Driver side
1. 90.5cm 90cm
2. 75cm 74.5cm
3. 54.5cm 54cm
4. 34cm 33.5cm

4x4Maniac · Post by **4x4Maniac** » Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:19 pm

Removed duplicate post

4x4Maniac · Post by **4x4Maniac** » Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:24 pm

Wayne, het jy al jou canopy vol gelaai en hang sy gat?

Post by **LouisZ** » Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:04 pm

Meet Kameleon,

It is a 1999 IFS Hilux SRX, basic 4x4 no Locker. I 1st saw this one as it entered 4x4 Megaworld in Pretoria to have a Roofrack fitted to the Canopy and a Rooftop tent in 2004. This was one of 5 Bakkies that a German bought to use Exclusivly for renting out to Foreigners.

It had roughly 38 000kms on, his business was already ongoing and most of the Bakkies was all over Africa, this perticular one just came back from Namibia. Over the next 4 years it was in and out as any Rental Bakkie, maintanance usually was engine services, tyres and a odd wishbone that was bend or a light that had to replaced. In 2008 we fitted the ARB bumper, it was heading to Botswana. It came back after the Trip and it limped in with a rear Leafspring broken. It then had 90 000kms on. So we fitted the OME Suspension, Torsion in the front with the shocks, the rear was the constant 250kg springs,shocks and bushes, it had then the battery system, canopy, roofrack with high lift jack, spare wheel on the roofrack,Aux Tank, rooftop tent and a 40 lt Engel permanently in. After we had it it had to go for the 2nd clutch replacement and to have the front diff and axle replaced. After that it had to leave for Tanzania.

All went well on the trip, it came back and the centre bearing needed to be replaced, piping on the Aux tank had to be replaced, the petrol tank had to come out and the fuel pump was replaced. The spots had to be added. Then it was out again for a trip to Namibia(the bash plate took nice ding), Angola, Botswana, Zimbabwe and back to SA. For 2 years I did not see it again, then in 2010 it was back, a Drawer System had to be installed, the extra weight made us to insert a 8th blade to counter for all the weight, the drawers were to handle food, recovery equipment and camping goods. The Gearbox also needed to be replaced. Then it were out again for its last long trip, Moz, Malawi, Tanzania, Zambia, through the Caprivi and back to SA through Botwana.

Unfortunatly the German had Family death in Germany as the Bakkie returned on its trip, he had no choice to sell the Bakkies as he had to return to Germany to handle this matter.

That is how this one landed with me, Kameleon is the slowest, thirsty 2.7lt but it drives the best of the rest, overall I knew the History of this one in perticular. It now has over 170 000km on it. Of the KMS done one can say 2/3 was on Gravel, dunes,4x4 driving and average good tar. I only had the Radiator replaced so far.

The OME, well it still in and giving good performance.

Post by **LouisZ** » Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:40 pm

3 Blind Monkeys wrote:Ek het OME's op my vigo en vind my gat hang ook as ek gelaai is en het gedink aan die air helpers, maar die koste is 'n bietjie meer as wat ek bereid is om te spandeer. Aan die einde van 'n trip ry my van die lekkerste, in die begin stamp die suspension agter as jy net 'n dippie normale spoed deurgaan waar aan die einde van 'n trip kan ek dieselfde dip vinniger deur gaan sonder dat hy stamp. Is dit makliker om net 'n extra veer in te sit of wat sal die oplossing wees?

Watter Leafsprings het jy in? Wat is permanent op jou Bakkie?

Post by **Family_Dog** » Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:00 pm

Louis, is Kameleon now your bakkie? Looks great and seems to be in excellent condition. 170k km is just nothing, the vehicle is barely run in!

(But as if I need to even tell you that...

)

-F_D

GeorgeJvR · Post by **GeorgeJvR** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:26 pm

Wel persoonlik was ek mal oor my vorige SFA se Pro Comp suspention" behalwe die lift blocks agter"

Mikem en OME....
Dis 'n wrede keuse...
Ek het nog nie een gebruik nie en het net goeie terug voer van beide gehoor.

'n vriend het nou R15550.00 betaal vir sy IFS se vol EFS suspention.

Mr_B · Post by **Mr_B** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:32 pm

I've got OME's new sport struts and shocks installed... velly nice indeed!

3 Blind Monkeys · Post by **3 Blind Monkeys** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 6:50 pm

4x4megaworldpta wrote:
3 Blind Monkeys wrote:Ek het OME's op my vigo en vind my gat hang ook as ek gelaai is en het gedink aan die air helpers, maar die koste is 'n bietjie meer as wat ek bereid is om te spandeer. Aan die einde van 'n trip ry my van die lekkerste, in die begin stamp die suspension agter as jy net 'n dippie normale spoed deurgaan waar aan die einde van 'n trip kan ek dieselfde dip vinniger deur gaan sonder dat hy stamp. Is dit makliker om net 'n extra veer in te sit of wat sal die oplossing wees?

Watter Leafsprings het jy in? Wat is permanent op jou Bakkie?

Ek het 'n vol OME suspension in. Ek het ARB voor bumper,alu canopy, RTT, Drawer system, 60 liter engel, 6de wiel op die dak so hy is redelik swaar gelaai maar ry baie lekker, maar as ons kos, klere en water by sit verander die storie.
Ek dink die agterste leaf springs moet die meduim rating wees as ek kyk hoe hy hom gedra. As dit die geval is wat is die prosedure van hier af?

4x4Maniac · Post by **4x4Maniac** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:33 pm

Ok, good news I've decided to take the plunge and have started with the installation of the OME Torsions...

Wow!

What can I say! Immediately, I can feel the difference... Feels like I'm driving a Merc, and that is just Torsions making a huge difference already.

Before, in order to test it we drove straight into a speed bump at +-20km/h and the previous torsions was already at max that the bump stops would hit against the chassis so much that you just hear a doef sound!

After. Drive at +- 40km/h, nothing nada! Its like it just absorbs the bump...

The lift I gained just by changing the Torsions: 3cm in the front, 0.5cm-1cm at the back.
Now the nose isnt hanging any more, the ride is much softer and less body roll...

Measurement taken from:
1. Ground to bottom of wheel arch.
2. Bottom of rim to bottom of wheel arch.
3. Middle of hubcap to bottom of wheel arch.
4. Top of rim to bottom of wheel arch.

Before
Front Passenger side Front Driver side
1. 88cm 88.5cm
2. 72.5cm 73cm
3. 52.5cm 53cm
4. 32cm 32.5cm

Back Passenger side Back Driver side
1. 90.5cm 90cm
2. 75cm 74.5cm
3. 54.5cm 54cm
4. 34cm 33.5cm

After
Front Passenger side Front Driver side
1. 91cm 91.5cm
2. 75.5cm 76cm
3. 55cm 55.5cm
4. 34cm 34.5cm

Back Passenger side Back Driver side
1. 91.5cm 91cm
2. 75.5cm 75cm
3. 55cm 54.5cm
4. 34.5cm 34cm

Now I really cannot wait for the OME rear leaf springs, boy what a difference that is also going to make.

I did not want to pick up the nose too much untill I have the rear also sorted... And believe me there is still plenty of spring left in those thicker spring steel torsions.

Thanks so much Louis@4x4Megaworld for your hard work in getting them installed, now to wait for September. :sad:

4x4Maniac · Post by **4x4Maniac** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:40 pm

Oh yes before I forget to tell you guys...

Ive opted for the 400kg 8 blades at the back, but am removing the one blade so to have it ready when the canopy and RTT and everything else also goes on! In that way while the canopy isnt on I'll have a much better ride.

Post by **LouisZ** » Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:46 am

Plesier Werner. Dankie dat jy gekom het.

Ek kry al die Blades hierdie Dinsdag, hulle het klaar jou naam op.

Johann, as die Leafspring pak 6 blades in het (CS044R) is dit die mediums. As dit 7 blades in het dan is dit die Heavy duties - 400KG(CS045R).

Nou, mens kan die ekstra blade en center bolt per kant in sit(OMEUCB14 en OMED14XL) X 2, dit sal so R2344.50 met installasie en BTW ingesluit kos om in te sit. Dit sal dan help om die ekstra gewig te help mee, ook wat lekker is as die kos en goed uit is dan ry die Bakkie ook nie juis hard nie.

WayneSchalk · Post by **WayneSchalk** » Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:36 pm

4x4Maniac wrote:Wayne, het jy al jou canopy vol gelaai en hang sy gat?

Ek sal lieg as ek nee se, maar niks te erg nie. Maar dis n goeie gewig, yskas, roof top tent, water.........Ek is seker maak nie saak wat jy insit nie dit sal tog so bitjie sak.

3 Blind Monkeys · Post by **3 Blind Monkeys** » Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:06 pm

Johann, as die Leafspring pak 6 blades in het (CS044R) is dit die mediums. As dit 7 blades in het dan is dit die Heavy duties - 400KG(CS045R).

Nou, mens kan die ekstra blade en center bolt per kant in sit(OMEUCB14 en OMED14XL) X 2, dit sal so R2344.50 met installasie en BTW ingesluit kos om in te sit. Dit sal dan help om die ekstra gewig te help mee, ook wat lekker is as die kos en goed uit is dan ry die Bakkie ook nie juis hard nie.

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Baie dankie Louis, hy het 6 springs in so ek sal die extra blade moet laat insit. Het die oorspronklike een hier by 4x4 mega in die kaap laat insit so sal maar weer daar 'n draaitjie by die vriendelike ouens gaan maak voor ons Desember Kaokoland toe gaan.

4x4Maniac · Post by **4x4Maniac** » Sun Sep 02, 2012 10:23 am

Ok, so the new OME leaf springs are in... And another beeeg Wow!

Feels like a new truck...

I just couldnt wait any longer or to post the results, but it seems as the suspension has already settled in...

The total lift I gained by changing the Torsions and the Leaf springs: 6cm in the front, and a whopping 8cm at the back, and that is with 7 blades ie. the 200kg load springs. still have the extra blade that will go on once the canopy goes on, that is rated for a constant load of 400kg.

Modified today further as the bakkie wasn't quite level, so picked up the torsions a little bit more...

Measurement taken from:
1. Ground to bottom of wheel arch.
2. Bottom of rim to bottom of wheel arch.
3. Middle of hubcap to bottom of wheel arch.
4. Top of rim to bottom of wheel arch.

Before
Front Passenger side Front Driver side
1. 88cm 88.5cm
2. 72.5cm 73cm
3. 52.5cm 53cm
4. 32cm 32.5cm

Back Passenger side Back Driver side
1. 90.5cm 90cm
2. 75cm 74.5cm
3. 54.5cm 54cm
4. 34cm 33.5cm

After
Front Passenger side Front Driver side
1. 94cm 94.5cm
2. 78.5cm 79cm
3. 58cm 58.5cm
4. 37.5cm 38cm

Back Passenger side Back Driver side
1. 98.5cm 98cm
2. 83cm 82.5cm
3. 62.5cm 62cm
4. 42cm 41.5cm

So now there are 3 things left:

1. Got to re-do the wheel balancing and perhaps put in shims due to the caster being so out.
2. Put in longer shocks as the current Gabriel Safaris O currently have on are bottoming out.
3. Sell old Torsions and Leafs so I can pay for the shocks!

Thanks again Louis for a job well done! And for a lekka kuier as well! Hope to see you soon...

4x4Maniac · Post by **4x4Maniac** » Sun Sep 02, 2012 10:32 am

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Post by **george** » Sun Sep 02, 2012 10:47 am

Baie nice

Post by **Family_Dog** » Sun Sep 02, 2012 11:33 am

Nicely done, Werner!

-F_D

4x4Maniac · Post by **4x4Maniac** » Sun Sep 02, 2012 7:29 pm

Adjusted torsions today again, because it wasn't quite level, so got an additional 2.5cm gain in the front and another 1cm at the rear...

Updated measurements in my previous post... Now it drives beautifully!

Donkey · Post by **Donkey** » Sun Sep 02, 2012 8:36 pm

Very nice, now to sell the side steps to fund another project, very nice I tell you - I like

4x4Maniac · Post by **4x4Maniac** » Sun Sep 02, 2012 8:51 pm

The side steps are a bit kaput, so won't really want to sell it to anyone... But watch this space, that's also gonna change...

Donkey · Post by **Donkey** » Sun Sep 02, 2012 8:54 pm

Last I took mine to scrap cos one was slightly bent, got R25

, which funded two 660ml mother's milk bottles

4x4Maniac · Post by **4x4Maniac** » Sun Sep 02, 2012 9:03 pm

Donkey wrote:Last I took mine to scrap cos one was slightly bent, got R25 , which funded two 660ml mother's milk bottles

I'll keep that in mind thanks! Every cent helps...

Danman · Post by **Danman** » Sun Sep 02, 2012 9:29 pm

Donkey wrote:Last I took mine to scrap cos one was slightly bent, got R25 , which funded two 660ml mother's milk bottles

gave mine to deon's auto and hegave me R500 off of my diff exchange.
which I thought was not too bad.

Jackal · Post by **Jackal** » Mon Sep 03, 2012 9:42 am

4x4Maniac wrote: 2. Put in longer shocks as the current Gabriel Safaris O currently have on are bottoming out.

Which shocks are too short? Front? Back or both? I've just done my front torsions and shocks and so happy with the results. I still need to do my rear leafs and shocks.

Jackal · Post by **Jackal** » Mon Sep 03, 2012 9:46 am

Please keep us posted on how they perform or any learnings.

4x4Maniac · Post by **4x4Maniac** » Mon Sep 03, 2012 1:27 pm

Jackal wrote: Which shocks are too short? Front? Back or both? I've just done my front torsions and shocks and so happy with the results. I still need to do my rear leafs and shocks.

Haven't done some serious offroading yet, however do hear it bottoming out every now and then when going over a bump, whilst turning, so that the right front wheel goes first. The rear right (drivers side) shock never was the correct length shock... on the IFS the right rear shock is suppose to be longer, because of the difference in mounting points. If you did get the Gabriel's HDP then the shock is already longer (I think). The OME shocks are defenately longer.

Jackal · Post by **Jackal** » Mon Sep 03, 2012 4:30 pm

Thanks. When I got my front OME shocks and torsion bars done 4x4MegaWorld told me there weren't really any options for shock length in the front and that the OME that they were going to fit were longer than the standard sizes they put on and the Monroes I had. At one stage I was considering sway bar disconnects and was wondering if that would mean I'd need even longer shocks in the front. I haven't jacked my front up yet to see if my shocks bottom before anything else but will do so and check.

Post by **LouisZ** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 4:28 pm

Carl, the Ome Shocks front and back is usually 50mm odd longer than the OEM Toyota shocks. The Torsion can be turned that it lift the vehicle in the front. Just beware not to turn it too high otherwise the wheels will look like an VW beetle's. Also the bump stop on the arms have to have at least a Gap of 10-15mm on the lower.

Just also check the alignment, especially the Camber in the front if you lift it a bit high that it get shimmed to get the camber right.

In Werner's case he has the Safari's, when they fitted they fitted 2 same lenght shocks, the lefts, that is usually shorter. The right shocks are always longer. To give an example, his measured 570mm and should been 600mm at least. The Safaris is already longer than the OE,
the OME will be 652mm.

4x4Maniac · Post by **4x4Maniac** » Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:49 pm

Ok, so finally got the shocks installed today after having to wait a bit for the shipment to arrive. Wow what a difference! Also had the 8th blade installed and now with the load of the canopy it is now level! From quick calculations it looks like 8cm lift in the front and estimating the back lift to about 10cm, but difficult to determine exactly with the canopy, liaded drawers dual battery and fridge loaded.

Thanks again so much to Louis and Shawn at 4x4 Megaworld in Menlyn! You guys rock!

Measurement taken from:
1. Ground to bottom of wheel arch.
2. Bottom of rim to bottom of wheel arch.
3. Middle of hubcap to bottom of wheel arch.
4. Top of rim to bottom of wheel arch.

Before
Front Passenger side Front Driver side
1. 88cm 88.5cm
2. 72.5cm 73cm
3. 52.5cm 53cm
4. 32cm 32.5cm

Back Passenger side Back Driver side
1. 90.5cm 90cm
2. 75cm 74.5cm
3. 54.5cm 54cm
4. 34cm 33.5cm

After
Front Passenger side Front Driver side
1. 97cm 96.5cm
2. 80.5cm 80cm
3. 60cm 59.5cm
4. 39.5cm 39cm

Back Passenger side Back Driver side
1. 97.5cm 96.5cm
2. 81.5cm 81cm
3. 61.5cm 61cm
4. 41cm 40cm

Donkey · Post by **Donkey** » Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:11 pm

Please post some pics, going this route with my truck next year + a 40mm body lift

4x4Maniac · Post by **4x4Maniac** » Sat Dec 01, 2012 3:31 pm

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Post by **Family_Dog** » Sat Dec 01, 2012 8:34 pm

Very nice, Werner!

-F_D