First Time Welder Purchaser - Advice Needed!

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Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:25 pm

Hi All

I have a little problem:/
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Hence I need the correct welding appliance for such a repair. There are a number of posts addressing welding but the numerous terms (often for the same thing) confuse me and I need to ensure I fork out the not inconsiderable sum for the right thing.

I have self taught experience in welding with a very old stick/arc welder to the point of welding dropped drag links and just managing to stitch together exhaust pipe etc. I am looking at purchasing a cheap (3-4k max) MIG welder and initially running it with flux core to save on gas. I will eventually aim to use it with gas and to weld aluminium & stainless steel but the immediate aim is thin bodywork - am I on the right track?

Additionally, is flux core suitable for bodywork and is flux core available for aluminium and stainless?

Many Thanks!

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Tue Feb 27, 2018 8:23 am

Rather go to an body shop. Welding thin body panels generally requires TIG welding, which is expensive and takes a lot of practice
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Wed Feb 28, 2018 2:02 pm

+1 :winkx:
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Wed Feb 28, 2018 3:10 pm

Or get a Oxy-acytelene set. Can't believe how thin plate can be welded with it.
Ecc 1:9 Wat gewees het, dit sal daar weer wees; en wat gebeur het, dit sal weer gebeur, en daar is glad niks nuuts onder die son nie.

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Wed Feb 28, 2018 4:35 pm

Dowe Koos wrote:
Wed Feb 28, 2018 3:10 pm
Or get a Oxy-acytelene set. Can't believe how thin plate can be welded with it.
At over R8K for a 2nd hand PortaPack (small unit) I don't think the cost can be justified unless it's going to be used for business. Same applies to a TIG / MIG welder IMO. :winkx:
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Wed Feb 28, 2018 4:36 pm

Buy a Miller TIG welder. Only R63000 on Afrox’ website....

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Thu Mar 01, 2018 8:07 am

Yes, 63k, pocket change!

Seriously though, cheap with welding means SMAW (stick/arc) and you really can't weld thin plate with it. So you're either in for a large investment in time and money learning to TIG or outsourcing it.
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Thu Mar 01, 2018 8:38 am

The whole idea with both MIG and TIG welding is that there is an inert gas protecting the weld from contamination by oxygen. So the flux core on the MIG welder is somewhat of a compromise although I am not in a position to comment on the real world application thereof as I do not know. Perhaps someone else will have used it and can comment.

The problem with something like TIG welding which is probably the best welding solution for the job you want to do is that the TIG welding machines are expensive and just like anything else in life you get what you paid for it. Then there is the ongoing cost of the inert gas and the rental on the cylinder that you are already clearly aware of. If you are only going to do it once or occasionally then it will not be worth your while to buy the whole setup. If you are going to be using it frequently on other jobs then it becomes more of an option. If you only want to weld up the cab then you are much better off financially to have it done professionally.

There are cheap TIG welders that cost in the same ball park as the cheap MIG welders but I have no experience with them. If you were in a position to choose between the two then the MIG welder is in my opinion the best solution.

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Thu Mar 01, 2018 8:59 am

At Adendorf you can get a mig for 8000 and a tig ac/dc for 12000.
Ecc 1:9 Wat gewees het, dit sal daar weer wees; en wat gebeur het, dit sal weer gebeur, en daar is glad niks nuuts onder die son nie.

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Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:05 am

In Silverton close to the corner of Pretoriaweg and Dykorweg, is a big shop (can't remember the name) they sell tig ac/dc for 10000. Think is better quality than the one at Adendorf.
Ecc 1:9 Wat gewees het, dit sal daar weer wees; en wat gebeur het, dit sal weer gebeur, en daar is glad niks nuuts onder die son nie.

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Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:57 am

Cosmo Industrial is the name
Ecc 1:9 Wat gewees het, dit sal daar weer wees; en wat gebeur het, dit sal weer gebeur, en daar is glad niks nuuts onder die son nie.

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Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:36 pm

Dont you flux core you will be dissapointed

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