Solid Axle Camil Shocks V/s Independant Ironman Suspension
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Solid Axle Camil Shocks V/s Independant Ironman Suspension
Solid Axcle Leafspring + Camil Shocks V/s Independant Iron Man Stut Suspension.
This comparison whas done at the De wild 4X4 trail.
Red Hilux has the Camil Shocks.
This comparison whas done at the De wild 4X4 trail.
Red Hilux has the Camil Shocks.
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Re: Solid Axcle Camil Shocks V/s Independant Ironman Suspen
The white Hilux has the Ironman suspension.
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Re: Solid Axcle Camil Shocks V/s Independant Ironman Suspen
I had the Ironman Suspension done at Wild Africa it is worth while.
Contact them (012) 807-4566
Ironman is the way to go on any Hilux.
Dont waste your money on a inferior suspension.
Contact them (012) 807-4566
Ironman is the way to go on any Hilux.
Dont waste your money on a inferior suspension.
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Re: Solid Axcle Camil Shocks V/s Independant Ironman Suspen
Go and do Baboons pass with a load then tell me Ironman is the best I will never buy it. OME still better in my point of view.Tiger7 wrote:Ironman is the way to go on any Hilux.
Dont waste your money on a inferior suspension.
If you what to see what a Hilux can do click below
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Re: Solid Axcle Camil Shocks V/s Independant Ironman Suspen
One can also see that the Camil suspension made the SFA very taught almost not flexing at all.
You can't really compare the two vehicles due to them being SFA and IFS. I have Ironman fitted on my bakkie and on numerous times have been asked by people what I have fitted as they are so impressed with the flex.
OME is probably the best but according to me totally overpriced. When I replace my Ironman suspension I will most definitely go the Mikem route.
You can't really compare the two vehicles due to them being SFA and IFS. I have Ironman fitted on my bakkie and on numerous times have been asked by people what I have fitted as they are so impressed with the flex.
OME is probably the best but according to me totally overpriced. When I replace my Ironman suspension I will most definitely go the Mikem route.
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Re: Solid Axle Camil Shocks V/s Independant Ironman Suspens
Julle gaan darem nou lekker baklei... OME is die beste suspension wat ek op my Hilux het...
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Re: Solid Axle Camil Shocks V/s Independant Ironman Suspens
En dit is die enigste wat jy op jou Hilux hetThysdJ wrote:Julle gaan darem nou lekker baklei... OME is die beste suspension wat ek op my Hilux het...
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Cassie jy weer hopeloos te slim vanmore...
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Woord speling is my game... onthou jy nou weerThysdJ wrote:Cassie jy weer hopeloos te slim vanmore...
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Re: Solid Axle Camil Shocks V/s Independant Ironman Suspens
Although I find the pictures interesting, I feel that unless the vehicles are identical in every respect, except the suspension, any test conducted will have too many outside influences on the findings. Also a field test is good but if these vehicles were tested for flex on a remp or the such like it would be of more value because the distance traveled up the ramp could have been measured. The last variable is not only the different drivers but also the fact that different lines could have been taken and the driver in the one vehicle could know his vehicle better then the driver of the other.
Tyre pressure, throttle use, wheel placement and a host of other factors could effect the outcome one way or the other.
The timing of the pictures also could make one suspension look like it flexes better then the other.
Tyre pressure, throttle use, wheel placement and a host of other factors could effect the outcome one way or the other.
The timing of the pictures also could make one suspension look like it flexes better then the other.
Just because it says "4WD" doesn't make it an off-road vehicle.
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Re: Solid Axle Camil Shocks V/s Independant Ironman Suspens
Agreed
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Re: Solid Axle Camil Shocks V/s Independant Ironman Suspens
No comparative pics needed .... just look at that red SFA with one wheel in the air on all those pics .... less flex than with standard springs and shocks. :wth: :wth: My OME would never have even lifted a wheel.
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Re: Solid Axle Camil Shocks V/s Independant Ironman Suspens
Thanks Mud Dog.
I did not try to offend any OME die hard fans.
The only reason that I went the Ironman route is it gave me more lift and
upgraded the load capabilities by 250kg
80mm in front and 50mm in the rear.
A SFA and a IFA has the same rear suspension setup to start with
the Camil duese not have the travel that the Ironman has.
I did not try to offend any OME die hard fans.
The only reason that I went the Ironman route is it gave me more lift and
upgraded the load capabilities by 250kg
80mm in front and 50mm in the rear.
A SFA and a IFA has the same rear suspension setup to start with
the Camil duese not have the travel that the Ironman has.
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Re: Solid Axle Camil Shocks V/s Independant Ironman Suspens
No Jonathan, you miss my point .... OME, Ironman, Mikem, whatever, ... it does'nt matter. The point is that Camil coil over shocks in conjunction with leaf packs make the suspension too rigid. As I said in the Mikem thread, it's all fine and well for when you have an extra load, or when towing.
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Re: Solid Axle Camil Shocks V/s Independant Ironman Suspens
I know that obstacle at De Wildt very well, most people tend to rather drive down it than up it. What is the fun in that??
I do notice something interesting on that red Lux, those tyres, what was the pressure in them at the time?
Here practicing to drive that obstacle using different lines and no diff lock. Vehicle basically unloaded, tyres at 1.4bar. Still then standard Toyota Suspension.
I do notice something interesting on that red Lux, those tyres, what was the pressure in them at the time?
Here practicing to drive that obstacle using different lines and no diff lock. Vehicle basically unloaded, tyres at 1.4bar. Still then standard Toyota Suspension.
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Traveler wrote:I know that obstacle at De Wildt very well, most people tend to rather drive down it than up it. What is the fun in that??
Heinrich, dit en almal kom daar en ry reguit deur met 'n DL aan! Daar is geen trick aan daai ding as jy die DL aansit nie, point en go! Die lyn wat jy gevat kry mens maklik daar deur sonder 'n DL, maar net as jy kan lyne lees.
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Uys, stem heeltemal saam jou. Dit is te maklik om daai knoppie te druk.
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Ek stem saam met die komentaar oor die DL. Dit is hkm ek nog my SFA ry, ek kom nog reg sonder die DL's....
Hier is 'n foto van my SFA by Basslake met OME in. Let wel dat hy die Heavy (stywe) OME vere voor en agter in het. Die winch kom binnekort voor op.
Hier is 'n foto van my SFA by Basslake met OME in. Let wel dat hy die Heavy (stywe) OME vere voor en agter in het. Die winch kom binnekort voor op.
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Re: Solid Axle Camil Shocks V/s Independant Ironman Suspens
Die punt waarmee begin is, is tussen 'n Solid Axle Camil Shocks V/s Independant Ironman Suspension.
Ek het nie die OME aangevat nie!
Dit was slegs opservasie en ek het kommentaar daarop gelewer.
Ek het nie die OME aangevat nie!
Dit was slegs opservasie en ek het kommentaar daarop gelewer.
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Re: Solid Axle Camil Shocks V/s Independant Ironman Suspens
A better comparison would have been SfA with Camil vs SFA with Ironman ... or ... IFS with Camil vs IFS with Ironman.
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Re: Solid Axle Camil Shocks V/s Independant Ironman Suspens
We went to De Wildt this weekend and I did the same obstacle as shown earlier. I have recently fitted the OME leaves and Monroe shocks. The OME is the heavy duty but I was still impressed with the articulation compared to the original leave springs. I asked my friend to drive my truck so I could see the articulation. As you will see it appears to be better than the Camil suspension.
Just because it says "4WD" doesn't make it an off-road vehicle.