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5 VF ZE into SFA

Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 10:27 am
by zepplin
Any advice on which bellhousing & clutch to use to mate a 5VF ZE to standard SFA 5 speed manual box?

Re: 5 VF ZE into SFA

Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 10:42 am
by GeorgeJvR
Any plans on the 22R EFI???????????

Re: 5 VF ZE into SFA

Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 12:19 pm
by Stef
Ja, maar jy moet die hele engine koop :mrgreen:

Re: 5 VF ZE into SFA

Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 1:11 pm
by TOYOTA 4YEFI
Dit sal n baie nice conversion wees want as ek dit nie mis het nie sit die 5vz se max torque op 3600 wat lekker gan werk omdat die 5 spoed ratkas ook rondom 3500 le op 120km/h so die krag le net op die regte plek maar ek wil ook die conversion doen maar weet ook nie waar ek n bellhousing gaan kry nie so ek sal ook in angs wag vir enige informasie rondom die bellhousing

Re: 5 VF ZE into SFA

Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 2:00 pm
by zepplin
Stef, how did you guess? It's early days yet but if I do decide to go with the 5VZ FE my 22R EFI will be offered here as a complete motor incl the management. Still no answers on the bellhouising but not in a rush.

Re: 5 VF ZE into SFA

Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 2:06 pm
by GeorgeJvR
zepplin wrote:Stef, how did you guess? It's early days yet but if I do decide to go with the 5VZ FE my 22R EFI will be offered here as a complete motor incl the management. Still no answers on the bellhouising but not in a rush.
Let me know as soon as you have a price in mind. :beg:

Re: 5 VF ZE into SFA

Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 2:07 pm
by Mr_B
Steve give Allan a call, I'm sure he'll fill u in on what's needed!

Bolt's 4Y EFi may also be up for grabs soon(ish)...

Re: 5 VF ZE into SFA

Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 2:40 pm
by GeorgeJvR
No thanx i want to keep it real! 22R EFI

Re: 5 VF ZE into SFA

Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 3:08 pm
by Mr_B
Yip... the 22R is a knock off of the original 4Y... :mrgreen:

Re: 5 VF ZE into SFA

Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 3:21 pm
by GeorgeJvR
:blackeye: :cry:

Re: 5 VF ZE into SFA

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 7:44 am
by Gunta
What motor is that?

Re: 5 VF ZE into SFA

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 7:55 am
by zepplin
3.4 V6 non VVT currently found in the Prado.

Re: 5 VF ZE into SFA

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 8:30 am
by Mr_B
zepplin wrote:3.4 V6 non VVT currently found in the Prado.
You confusing me Steve, the 5VZ was the older 3.4 V6 Prado engine, it's non-VVTi.

The present Prado uses 1GR... which is a 4L V6 with dual VVTi. The closest GR engine to the 5VZ is the 2GR 3.5L V6, but they were never used in the Prado.

The only other Toyota VVTi V6 series were the MZ's... the 3MZ is a 3.3L and again was never used in the Prado range.

:problem:

Re: 5 VF ZE into SFA

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 8:36 am
by GeorgeJvR
Now where is that wooden spoon icon :lol:

Re: 5 VF ZE into SFA

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 8:45 am
by Mr_B
GeorgeJvR wrote:Now where is that wooden spoon icon :lol:
No George, no stirring this time, just fact... I get worried for other guys sake, because I've heard many many a tall story to try sell something! Just want to make sure someone's not giving Steve junk information!

Re: 5 VF ZE into SFA

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 9:26 am
by GeorgeJvR
:acute: :mrgreen:

Re: 5 VF ZE into SFA

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 11:54 am
by Stef
zepplin wrote:Stef, how did you guess? It's early days yet but if I do decide to go with the 5VZ FE my 22R EFI will be offered here as a complete motor incl the management. Still no answers on the bellhouising but not in a rush.
:mocking: :mocking: Just common sense, 22R's are easy to come by but the EFi part not, sell them as a combo & you get rid of the engine quick quick.

Re: 5 VF ZE into SFA

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 1:19 pm
by GeorgeJvR
Cape Town - Louis Trichardt
It's M$%^#&@ very far apart...
But STEVE you remember me now when you want to part that EFI + Motor

Steve
Why Not keep the 22RE
Were you not happy with the conversion or what is te catch?

Re: 5 VF ZE into SFA

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 1:57 pm
by Mud Dog
I'm open to correction here, but IIRC the 5 VZ (3.4 lit.) is a straight bolt onto the SFA bell-housing, but there has to be some work done to the fly-wheel / spigot bearing. Alternately you use the 5 VZ bell-housing and clutch as a straight bolt onto the SFA gearbox. :think:

The 3 VZ (3 lit.) was probably a better option for the SFA ... not as thirsty and not so much strain on the gearbox / diffs.

Re: 5 VF ZE into SFA

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 2:32 pm
by GeorgeJvR
:beach: I'l be waiting paciantly :beach:

Re: 5 VF ZE into SFA

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 2:34 pm
by Mr_B
Mud Dog wrote:The 3 VZ (3 lit.) was probably a better option for the SFA ...
Yip, if you can find a rear wheel drive one... remember the 3VZ from the Camry is not the right configuration for rear wheel drive! But the 5VZ's are all the right ones... still in terms of power vs. cost the Lexus V8 is still the best!

Re: 5 VF ZE into SFA

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 2:46 pm
by Stef
Mr_B wrote:
Mud Dog wrote:The 3 VZ (3 lit.) was probably a better option for the SFA ...
... still in terms of power vs. cost the Lexus V8 is still the best!
I still like Spartan's 2JZ ; Lexus bell housing from the stealers and it's a straight bolt on to SFA gearbox :thumbup:
Looks neater than the V8, in terms of how it fits in the the engine bay...

By no means an expert, get my info here :blushing:

Re: 5 VF ZE into SFA

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 3:26 pm
by zepplin
Mr_B wrote:You confusing me Steve, the 5VZ was the older 3.4 V6 Prado engine, it's non-VVTi.
Bretton, you are correct. Post should have read '....currently found in old Prado'.

GeorgeJvR wrote:Why Not keep the 22RE
Were you not happy with the conversion or what is te catch?
George, I'm very happy with the way it turned out & no catch whatsoever but in the immortal words of Mr. J Clarkson,

"MORE POWER!!!!"

Re: 5 VF ZE into SFA

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 3:32 pm
by GeorgeJvR
GeorgeJvR wrote:Why Not keep the 22RE
Were you not happy with the conversion or what is te catch?
George, I'm very happy with the way it turned out & no catch whatsoever but in the immortal words of Mr. J Clarkson,

"MORE POWER!!!!"[/quote]

Than i'll be waiting for your call :thumbup:

Re: 5 VF ZE into SFA

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 3:37 pm
by zepplin
:thumbup: :thumbup:

Re: 5 VF ZE into SFA

Posted: Tue May 17, 2011 9:42 pm
by conversion man
There is no {straight bolt on } to the sfa box to the 3.4 v6 I have made one for a guy ones so give me a ring

Re: 5 VF ZE into SFA

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:57 pm
by zepplin
Does anyone in Cape Town have a spare SFA gearbox (with bellhousing) to lend me to measure up for a custom bellhousing for a 5VZ FE conversion?

Hoppy tells me that to do this conversion the gearbox needs to be moved forward but I'm thinking of having a flywheel made so as to not have to move the box.

I have my flack jacket on so am ready for the comments.

Re: 5 VF ZE into SFA

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 3:05 pm
by Family_Dog
This will be a brilliant conversion once you're done. The 5VFZE is a brilliant motor!


-F_D

Re: 5 VF ZE into SFA

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 3:11 pm
by zepplin
They're still pricey - around 16K. The other option is the 1MZ FE but would need a lot more engineering to get it in. It's an is all aluminium so will be much lighter too - 6K.

Re: 5 VF ZE into SFA

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 5:37 pm
by zepplin
And so it begins!! :dance1:

Re: 5 VF ZE into SFA

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:22 pm
by Hoppy
Lyk mooi, nou begin die werk!

Re: 5 VF ZE into SFA

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:00 pm
by zepplin
You telling me!! First job to strip off the intake, plug up some holes & try make sense of all the wiring. Let me know about that sump please Allan.

Re: 5 VF ZE into SFA

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:13 pm
by Family_Dog
Drrrrrooooooooool.........!!!!!!!


-F_D

Re: 5 VF ZE into SFA

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:42 pm
by ThysdJ
You making a mess Oom Eric... :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: 5 VF ZE into SFA

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 4:13 pm
by Family_Dog
But it's worth it! ;D


-F_D

Re: 5 VF ZE into SFA

Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 8:14 pm
by mark watson
steve is the 3.4 in , did fit the 3l from the camry to a sfa and i would like to know what you have found

Re: 5 VF ZE into SFA

Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 9:40 pm
by zepplin
Mark, all done & going strong.

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Let me know if you need anything specific.