Suspension suspension suspension!!!
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Suspension suspension suspension!!!
I know this topic has already been discussed at length and there are lots of different opinions on the matter.
I find myself in the position of having to spend money on a new suspension because mine is definitely Kla!!! and two near accidents already because of it
I want to no which option is best value for money so far my options are:
R3000 and a bit to re-tension and fit Monroes all round
R9000 Iron Man fitted
R14000 Old Man Emu fitted
I was also thinking of OME springs and Monroes shocks, would that work
Is the good ride from OME achieved from better springs or are the shocks a vital part of the system?
Anyone know how long a re-tension would last?
I find myself in the position of having to spend money on a new suspension because mine is definitely Kla!!! and two near accidents already because of it
I want to no which option is best value for money so far my options are:
R3000 and a bit to re-tension and fit Monroes all round
R9000 Iron Man fitted
R14000 Old Man Emu fitted
I was also thinking of OME springs and Monroes shocks, would that work
Is the good ride from OME achieved from better springs or are the shocks a vital part of the system?
Anyone know how long a re-tension would last?
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Re: Suspesion suspension suspension!!!
Tristan, I know that most chaps will advise you not to go for the re-tension option as it does not last that long. One of the others will be along to give more and better advice. Have you also considered: Mikem Suspension systems, contact Darrell Dockray on 0826564473. Some of the CT members fitted Mikem suspensions and are very happy.
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Re: Suspesion suspension suspension!!!
I (my bakkie that is) have Ironman suspension and I'm very happy and have been told that my bakkie has got good flex.
And to stick to the topic....... I believe suspension suspension suspension is due to be handed out to all non-Hilux4x4 loyalists!
And to stick to the topic....... I believe suspension suspension suspension is due to be handed out to all non-Hilux4x4 loyalists!
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Re: Suspesion suspension suspension!!!
Yes most definitely. Kaspaas is fitted with OME and Monroe shocks, and it works beautifully.Tristan wrote:I was also thinking of OME springs and Monroes shocks, would that work
This option lasts 6 months and are not worth it. Do it once, and do it right.Tristan wrote:Anyone know how long a re-tension would last?
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Re: Suspesion suspension suspension!!!
If you have lots and lots of money and want a very good on stop solution go for OME. If you have lots of money and want to go for a pretty good ons stop solution then go for Ironman.
Otherwise if you want value for money and is willing to go around and get involved, then have yourself a nice set of custom blades manufactured at a spring place according to your requirements, not just one of the shelf but ask them to make it according to your requirements e.g. soft ride option, load carrying or good articulation off road remember you can not have both in the same springs as the more load capacity the less articulation.
Polyurethane bushes is a must, friction pads also help somewhat (but I omitted them due to cost on the last set I had made up) and then buy a set of Monroe shocks.
But do not retension even with adding an extra blade is it is not worth the money you spend.
Otherwise if you want value for money and is willing to go around and get involved, then have yourself a nice set of custom blades manufactured at a spring place according to your requirements, not just one of the shelf but ask them to make it according to your requirements e.g. soft ride option, load carrying or good articulation off road remember you can not have both in the same springs as the more load capacity the less articulation.
Polyurethane bushes is a must, friction pads also help somewhat (but I omitted them due to cost on the last set I had made up) and then buy a set of Monroe shocks.
But do not retension even with adding an extra blade is it is not worth the money you spend.
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Re: Suspesion suspension suspension!!!
Thanks for the input.
It really helps to get advice from buyers instead of the biast sellers :)
I had another idea as well, because my current suspension is Ironman I am contemplating just replacing the front springs because these are the most damaged.
The back right also looks a bit sagged but I think it may be because the front right is so bad that it is just putting extra load onto the back.
I will then obviousally put new shocks all round.
I know Ironman has more lift than OME so I guess just OME springs in front isn't an option :?
Do the Monroe Shocks come in different lengths to fit the springs with more lift
It really helps to get advice from buyers instead of the biast sellers :)
I had another idea as well, because my current suspension is Ironman I am contemplating just replacing the front springs because these are the most damaged.
The back right also looks a bit sagged but I think it may be because the front right is so bad that it is just putting extra load onto the back.
I will then obviousally put new shocks all round.
I know Ironman has more lift than OME so I guess just OME springs in front isn't an option :?
Do the Monroe Shocks come in different lengths to fit the springs with more lift
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Re: Suspesion suspension suspension!!!
I've heard they say you should fit LC shocks for the extra reach. I still need to do it on mine and I'm also going to fit Monroes
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Re: Suspesion suspension suspension!!!
this is a good idea maybe I can start building a cruiser one piece at a timeCasKru wrote:I've heard they say you should fit LC shocks for the extra reach. I still need to do it on mine and I'm also going to fit Monroes
Re: Suspesion suspension suspension!!!
The easiest and cheapest way for suspension is to tell Bennie that the Bulls ar crap, and within a couple of days you will have a suspension on your hands.
hehehe, but then you won't be able to post here...
hehehe, but then you won't be able to post here...
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Re: Suspesion suspension suspension!!!
Tristan dit is die moeite werd om na die Mikem produkte te kyk Darrel het baie goed deurdinkte produkte. Jip dit word plaaslik verfaardig as ek reg onthou.Die voor spring pack het dunner maar meer comfort springs en minder dikker load springs, sewe in totaal. ie lekke sagte rit (net wat jy wil he) Darrel het ook killer urethane bushes (ek gebryk die op my fighting machine) teen baie billike pryse,meng dit met goeie diens en siedaar jou stert swaai. Die LC shocks is glad nie sleg voor nie onthou net om die "shockposts" langer te maak sodat jy teen die bumpstop stop en nie die shocks uitbottom nie anners is jou nuwe shocks nie so nuut nie. Nou net linker agter(nuwe hilux) shocks agter 'n poor revolver shackles en siedaar 'n hilux wat somme bo oor die RTI ramp ry en kan laai soos 'n dyna
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Re: Suspesion suspension suspension!!!
A friend of mine has Iron man and is very happy, nice articulation and a good lift. I have a Procomp 4" lift wich I have had for about 3 years now and will never go any other route. The articulation is brilliant and I can put any one of my wheels 1,2m off the ground before any other wheel loses traction. I have heard that the kit has become quite expensive now but was lucky enough to have mine fitted for R8400 at the time. OME cost R16000 for a 50mm lift then. dont know what they cost now.
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Re: Suspesion suspension suspension!!!
Hi Lindsay
Cool pic 8) what suspension does that van have on it? Articulation looks really good.
Im probably gona come to the 4x4 challenge in Kirkwood so Im hoping you gona be there because I would love to see your awesome vehicle in real life
Cool pic 8) what suspension does that van have on it? Articulation looks really good.
Im probably gona come to the 4x4 challenge in Kirkwood so Im hoping you gona be there because I would love to see your awesome vehicle in real life
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Re: Suspesion suspension suspension!!!
Anybody know what the difference is between the comfort,performance and load options with Ironman
I get the obvious but is there any difference in lift, articulation etc...?
I seem to recall Bennie mentioning that there is less articulation with the load options.
I get the obvious but is there any difference in lift, articulation etc...?
I seem to recall Bennie mentioning that there is less articulation with the load options.
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Re: Suspesion suspension suspension!!!
A softer suspention would be more willing to flex the a load carrying set up but to the tention in the spring and valving in the shock ect.
If you are after felx I would go a soft spring with a adjustable shock (so it is not a pig to drive on road) **cough rancho 9000 with in cab adjust kit cough**
If you are after felx I would go a soft spring with a adjustable shock (so it is not a pig to drive on road) **cough rancho 9000 with in cab adjust kit cough**
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Re: Suspesion suspension suspension!!!
That Rancho setup I see equates to about Aus$1275 and I think the exchange rate is about R6 to Aus$1. So were looking at about R7650 But I think if one has the money lying around doing nothing, it would be a brilliant option :)putsy wrote:A softer suspention would be more willing to flex the a load carrying set up but to the tention in the spring and valving in the shock ect.
If you are after felx I would go a soft spring with a adjustable shock (so it is not a pig to drive on road) **cough rancho 9000 with in cab adjust kit cough**
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Re: Suspesion suspension suspension!!!
http://72.34.32.141/~snakerac/product_i ... 41847423fd all you will need is the shocks and springs .
I buy alot of stuff from this store abit pricy but good quality stuff though
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I just bought there tube bar 8) it hurts to hand over that much cash but hell worth it, should have it in 2-3 weeksCasKru wrote:I browse that site almost daily
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Will make that ute of yours look awesome! :)putsy wrote:I just bought there tube bar 8) it hurts to hand over that much cash but hell worth it, should have it in 2-3 weeksCasKru wrote:I browse that site almost daily
For those that want to know how it looks like:
I would love to install this kit in my bakkie:
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Daar is al die goette wat jy nodig het alles in een stel
Koop manne koop
Ek het so 'n rukkie gelede bietjie info gegee oor front suspention mods erens hir op die forum , daar is alles soos ek dit gebruik het, ons moes dit net self maak (amma boerrie)
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Cassie,
I can help you with the two washers at the mid-bottom of the picture.
Let me know when you want to collect.
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Funny enough... I have those same two washers..... I think they are left over from when we overhauled bulldogs starter motorFamily_BullDog wrote:Cassie,
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Prof bokdrol sit somme die twee wasters so loserig oor die luxie se airial
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Re: Suspesion suspension suspension!!!
Tirtan, Ihavent read every reply on this 'fred', maybe I repeat something... dont no:
Decide what you want: ( I have tried EVERY option)
1. Comfort and good articulation: Go for ome :D
Ome blades with Rancho schocks works GREAT. Rancho is adjustable. :D
2. Height and good articulation: go for procomp. :)
3. Running on a budget: Go for Ironman. They are better than std but not ome....
4. I DONT BELIEVE in retension. Maybe if done properly but mine sagged after 1 day of speed humps at high speed...
Hope this will put you on the right track to do happy Hilux'ing 8)
Decide what you want: ( I have tried EVERY option)
1. Comfort and good articulation: Go for ome :D
Ome blades with Rancho schocks works GREAT. Rancho is adjustable. :D
2. Height and good articulation: go for procomp. :)
3. Running on a budget: Go for Ironman. They are better than std but not ome....
4. I DONT BELIEVE in retension. Maybe if done properly but mine sagged after 1 day of speed humps at high speed...
Hope this will put you on the right track to do happy Hilux'ing 8)
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Re: Suspesion suspension suspension!!!
Thanks Pierre
I have been shopping around for the best value for money option and trying to make some contacts were I can.
What I am aiming for now is a set of OME blades and then Manroe LC shocks at the rear 60mm longer than standard and Manroe extra length (30mm I think) upfront.
This will hopefully make a more comfortable and stable ride plus good articulation
I have been shopping around for the best value for money option and trying to make some contacts were I can.
What I am aiming for now is a set of OME blades and then Manroe LC shocks at the rear 60mm longer than standard and Manroe extra length (30mm I think) upfront.
This will hopefully make a more comfortable and stable ride plus good articulation
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Re: Suspesion suspension suspension!!!
Whats the thought on putting a procomp kit onto 31" tyres? not in the market for bigger tyres.
Or should it rather be OME?
Daily runner, trails, overlanding etc.
Procomp dealers tell me they dont do 4" lift kits anymore only 3".
Eish, decisions decisions.
Or should it rather be OME?
Daily runner, trails, overlanding etc.
Procomp dealers tell me they dont do 4" lift kits anymore only 3".
Eish, decisions decisions.
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Re: Suspesion suspension suspension!!!
The procomp 3" kit sucks. I just fitted the 4" with 27" shocks in the rear. I need to fit 29" because they max out on articulation.
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Dumb question... when you say 27" shocks, are you referring to there total length or the amount of travel they allow. If indeed you are referring to the travel, please let me know when you get the 29" ones and where you got them.Riceburner wrote:The procomp 3" kit sucks. I just fitted the 4" with 27" shocks in the rear. I need to fit 29" because they max out on articulation.
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yes 29" extended. From me!
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Re: Suspesion suspension suspension!!!
Tristan,
Jou plan klink ekonomies en goed, het vir OME quote gevra, n volle R16000, dis bietjie kwaai. Dink jy as ek net OME bladvere en daai Monroe shocks opsit dat dit verskil sal maak op my bakkie, of dink jy ek sal nog iets moet bysit?
Jou plan klink ekonomies en goed, het vir OME quote gevra, n volle R16000, dis bietjie kwaai. Dink jy as ek net OME bladvere en daai Monroe shocks opsit dat dit verskil sal maak op my bakkie, of dink jy ek sal nog iets moet bysit?
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Re: Suspesion suspension suspension!!!
Ek het die afgelope 8 jaar al baie Hilux suspensions vir kliente gedoen en om eerlik te wees, daar is geen substitute vir die OME produk nie. Het in 8 jaar net 3 shocks onder warranty vervang (lekkasies), maar nie een leaf spring of coil spring nie! OME leaf springs kan jy heeldag negatief flex en hulle kom terug vir nog!
Ek is huidiglik besig met 'n Hilux, fit lockers voor en agter asook vol OME plus modifikasies, (Sien lys onder) sal 'n thread begin sodat julle kan sien waaroor dit gaan.
Daar is 'n paar geheime wat 'n mens moet na omsien wanneer jy die nuwe suspension fit.
Die spring perches op die vooras moet reguit gemaak en versterk word, anders sit dit baie strain op die nuwe springs wat dit laat pap word en ook jou lift minder maak.
Ek gebruik ook albei die A of B springs voor en nie die kombinasie van die twee soos voorgeskryf deur OME nie. Die rede is dat die bakkie nooit level staan nie omdat die A spring meer arch het as die B spring. Hulle doen dit so omdat die regterkantste spring perch 10mm hoer is as links. Ek gebruik net 'n 10mm spacer onder die linkerkantste spring pack (bout hom vas aan die spring) en gebruik dan of die A springs (platter vir standaard petrol bakkies met geen ekstra gewig) of die B spring (meer arch vir bullbar en winch bakkies)
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TOTAL R 19,295.00
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2 X CS009FB SPRING FRONT 51-110 KG R 1,551.00 R 3,102.00 (ADD R 752.00)
2 X N88 NITRO FRONT (589-349=240) R 1,316.00 R 2,632.00
Die OME vir die Hilux gee met die A springs so 60-70mm lift en met die heavy duty B springs tot 90mm lift. Die data in die OME katalogus is heel konserwatief.
Ek weet geld praat, maar my raad is: moenie skimp nie, die OME werk awesome as jy die boonste mods ook doen.
Ek is huidiglik besig met 'n Hilux, fit lockers voor en agter asook vol OME plus modifikasies, (Sien lys onder) sal 'n thread begin sodat julle kan sien waaroor dit gaan.
Daar is 'n paar geheime wat 'n mens moet na omsien wanneer jy die nuwe suspension fit.
Die spring perches op die vooras moet reguit gemaak en versterk word, anders sit dit baie strain op die nuwe springs wat dit laat pap word en ook jou lift minder maak.
Ek gebruik ook albei die A of B springs voor en nie die kombinasie van die twee soos voorgeskryf deur OME nie. Die rede is dat die bakkie nooit level staan nie omdat die A spring meer arch het as die B spring. Hulle doen dit so omdat die regterkantste spring perch 10mm hoer is as links. Ek gebruik net 'n 10mm spacer onder die linkerkantste spring pack (bout hom vas aan die spring) en gebruik dan of die A springs (platter vir standaard petrol bakkies met geen ekstra gewig) of die B spring (meer arch vir bullbar en winch bakkies)
Hieronder is 'n lys van die mods en OME parte nodig om jou Hilux soos 'n limo te laat ry en flex dat jou oe traan!
2 X CS008FB SPRING FRONT TO 50 KG R 1,175.00 R 2,350.00 (Hilux Petrol met min gewig voor, vir diesel en bullbar en winch gebruik CS009FB)
2 X N92 NITRO FRONT (589-349=240) R 1,316.00 R 2,632.00 (Cruiser FJ75 voor shocks vir Hilux petrol met min gewig, anders N88)
2 X OMESB5 BUSH KIT R 270.00 R 540.00
1 X OMEU52 U-BOLT – DRIVER SIDE R 280.00 ( Spesiaal geshamfer om jou draglink te clear)
1 X FK10 SADDLE CORRECTION KIT R 174.00 (Dis die plate wat jou spring perches versterk - 'n moet!)
1 X OMESD21 STEERING DAMPER R 1,522.00
1 X TP04 TRIM PACKER – 5MM R 155.00( Dis om albei dieselfde spring packs voor te gebruik)
2 X CS009R SPRING REAR MED R 1,511.00 R 3,022.00
2 X N75/75E NITRO REAR (652-397=255) R 1,316.00 R 2,632.00( Legend series Hilux se agterste shocks)
2 X OMESB6 BUSH KIT R 262.00 R 524.00
1 X FK13 ANTI INVERSION KIT R 277.00(Om te keer dat jou springs invert)
TOTAL R 14,108.00
7 X FITMENT R 285.00 R 1,995.00
RETAIL R 16,103.00
2 X SHOCK TOWER EXTENSION – 50 mm R 570.00 (Om die cruiser shocks voor te laat werk)
2 X FRONT LOWER SHOCK BUSH - 19 OD X 12 ID X 30 L R 342.00 (Om die cruiser shocks voor te laat werk)
2 X EXTENDED BRAKE LINE - 600mm R 342.00
1 X Z – DRAGLINK R 798.00 (Om jou cotters in die draglink te spaar en binding tee te werk)
4 X FITMENT R 285.00 R 1,140.00
SELL R 3,192.00
TOTAL R 19,295.00
ALTERNATIVELY:
2 X CS009FB SPRING FRONT 51-110 KG R 1,551.00 R 3,102.00 (ADD R 752.00)
2 X N88 NITRO FRONT (589-349=240) R 1,316.00 R 2,632.00
Die OME vir die Hilux gee met die A springs so 60-70mm lift en met die heavy duty B springs tot 90mm lift. Die data in die OME katalogus is heel konserwatief.
Ek weet geld praat, maar my raad is: moenie skimp nie, die OME werk awesome as jy die boonste mods ook doen.
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Re: Suspesion suspension suspension!!!
:? Im afraid all the Afrikanse taal is a bit to much for me so allot of what is said above I dont understand
I can say that a full OME kit seems way overpriced As far as I can tell the thing that makes OME great above anything else is their springs.
I cant justify buying their shocks at great cost considering OME shocks are infact made by Manroe.
Everyone that I have spoken to who have changed their shocks from OME to Manroe have said that they were never able to tell any difference in ride quality.
I can say that a full OME kit seems way overpriced As far as I can tell the thing that makes OME great above anything else is their springs.
I cant justify buying their shocks at great cost considering OME shocks are infact made by Manroe.
Everyone that I have spoken to who have changed their shocks from OME to Manroe have said that they were never able to tell any difference in ride quality.
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Re: Suspesion suspension suspension!!!
Tristan
The fact is that it doesn't matter who actually manufactures the shock, what matters is who designs it and in this case OME has dedicated engineers that only design shocks for 4x4 use. They have been doing so for many years. I have replaced many different shocks with the OMEs (Rancho, XGS, Pro-Comp etc) and have found a definite difference in comfort, control, repeatability and longevity. It may seem that I am biased towards OME, but experience has made me a believer. In my humble opinion, there is no off the shelf shock that competes with the OME if you compare price with what you get. Unfortunately wrong spring selection and old worn springs also doesn't help at all. No shock can overcome a bad spring.
One of my friends wife, who I've done the mentioned converted suspension for, actually phoned me just to say that she is so impressed with the solid axle Hilux's ride comfort, that she rather drives it than her Polo! :D
The fact is that it doesn't matter who actually manufactures the shock, what matters is who designs it and in this case OME has dedicated engineers that only design shocks for 4x4 use. They have been doing so for many years. I have replaced many different shocks with the OMEs (Rancho, XGS, Pro-Comp etc) and have found a definite difference in comfort, control, repeatability and longevity. It may seem that I am biased towards OME, but experience has made me a believer. In my humble opinion, there is no off the shelf shock that competes with the OME if you compare price with what you get. Unfortunately wrong spring selection and old worn springs also doesn't help at all. No shock can overcome a bad spring.
One of my friends wife, who I've done the mentioned converted suspension for, actually phoned me just to say that she is so impressed with the solid axle Hilux's ride comfort, that she rather drives it than her Polo! :D
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Re: Suspesion suspension suspension!!!
:roll:
I can second that
There is no aftermarket shock in the same calibre as the ome.
Jip Bennie I can feel your blood presure going, but on my hilux ome was te weapon off choice, till I could afford to upgrade to 14" monotube. IMHO there is no other shock that have the velocity sensetivity off the OME nether the rebound rating that makes the hilux a pleasure to drive/wheel.
Till today my old ome shocks are wheeled hard by Tiens Herbst.
That give you a lifespan off aprox 6 years!!!
I can second that
There is no aftermarket shock in the same calibre as the ome.
Jip Bennie I can feel your blood presure going, but on my hilux ome was te weapon off choice, till I could afford to upgrade to 14" monotube. IMHO there is no other shock that have the velocity sensetivity off the OME nether the rebound rating that makes the hilux a pleasure to drive/wheel.
Till today my old ome shocks are wheeled hard by Tiens Herbst.
That give you a lifespan off aprox 6 years!!!
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Re: Suspesion suspension suspension!!!
I am admittedly not experienced in this area so anything I say here is just a repeat of what I have been told by people who have more knowledge on the subject.
Sure OME shocks are better there is no doubt but some of us only have so much money to spend so compromises have to made somewhere.
Please correct me if Im wrong but I have heard that shocks have less affect on ride quality with leaf springs than on the coil springs. Obviously it will make some difference but if compromises have to be made because of price is this a good area to save Of course Im not suggesting that anyone go's and buys the real cheap and nasty stuff but Manroe is still a good quality product.
Sure OME shocks are better there is no doubt but some of us only have so much money to spend so compromises have to made somewhere.
Please correct me if Im wrong but I have heard that shocks have less affect on ride quality with leaf springs than on the coil springs. Obviously it will make some difference but if compromises have to be made because of price is this a good area to save Of course Im not suggesting that anyone go's and buys the real cheap and nasty stuff but Manroe is still a good quality product.
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Re: Suspesion suspension suspension!!!
18" shocks for rear off hilux
Fress off the press build to order for son off tazz
These unfortunately is some off the BEST money can buy
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Re: Suspesion suspension suspension!!!
Over here OME shocks arnt realy regarded as the best alot of other brands ie. Tuff Dog and EFS has been beating them in comparson tests not only for performance but value for money as well. I am upgrading my shoucks in my backie to the new Fox shock so will let you know how they go.
Just my 2 cents worth
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Re: Suspesion suspension suspension!!!
Wil net gou 'n klip in die bos gooi..
Want net quickly a stone in the bush throw...
Before going of and replacing all the blades and shocks etc etc... do yourselfs a favour. Just replace all the bushes on your suspension with new ones (preferably the Polyurothane ones) and you will be amazed in the difference in ride quality. The whole kit would cost in the region of about R400 bucks.
This will not affect articulation, only ride quality. m2cw
Want net quickly a stone in the bush throw...
Before going of and replacing all the blades and shocks etc etc... do yourselfs a favour. Just replace all the bushes on your suspension with new ones (preferably the Polyurothane ones) and you will be amazed in the difference in ride quality. The whole kit would cost in the region of about R400 bucks.
This will not affect articulation, only ride quality. m2cw
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Re: Suspesion suspension suspension!!!
Polyurothane. policarb is hard amper soos glas vesel
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Riceburner wrote:Polyurothane. policarb is hard amper soos glas vesel
I have mended my ways.... dankie
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Re: Suspesion suspension suspension!!!
Tom, it's good to hear from someone who hails form the same place as the OME.
Over here (SA) it is regarded as one of the best if not the best but perhaps that's only because we aren't exactly spoilt for choice. Cost for most guys is a factor and trying to find something that saves a few bob and gives all that you want at the same time, is really difficult.
As I am looking around now for new suspension (complete), what I am finding is that it costs alot no matter what you go for. Now if you are wanting to change your luxes suspension for looks or comfort or articulation, you need to ask yourself first, do I really need it right now
If your suspension is still fine (as fine as it can be without being a danger to you or your family) then why not wait until your ship comes in and you can afford the best Instead of mixing and matching.
OME have put alot of time and money into developing a product that works and works best when complete i.e shocks and springs. If you now mix and match you shouldn't expect to get the same performance.
Ronald, the list of mods you have there, is it all really necessary? and if so, how long does it take to do?
Now to pick a few more notes off the money tree. It definately looks tempting.
Over here (SA) it is regarded as one of the best if not the best but perhaps that's only because we aren't exactly spoilt for choice. Cost for most guys is a factor and trying to find something that saves a few bob and gives all that you want at the same time, is really difficult.
As I am looking around now for new suspension (complete), what I am finding is that it costs alot no matter what you go for. Now if you are wanting to change your luxes suspension for looks or comfort or articulation, you need to ask yourself first, do I really need it right now
If your suspension is still fine (as fine as it can be without being a danger to you or your family) then why not wait until your ship comes in and you can afford the best Instead of mixing and matching.
OME have put alot of time and money into developing a product that works and works best when complete i.e shocks and springs. If you now mix and match you shouldn't expect to get the same performance.
Ronald, the list of mods you have there, is it all really necessary? and if so, how long does it take to do?
Now to pick a few more notes off the money tree. It definately looks tempting.
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Re: Suspesion suspension suspension!!!
Cassie die poly bushes beinfloed wel jou articulation.
maak dit aansienlik swakker
Die hilux se bushes laat baie min "twist" toe tydens jou droop siklus en al die werk moet dan deur die springs gedoen ward, deur die rubber bushes met harder urethane te verfang benadeel jy jou artikulasie nog meer. Ek het cheap Midas rubber bushes gekoop hande vol ghries en in.
Die probleem is dat hulle nie baie lank hou nie, waar die urethane seker 'n leeftyd sal hou
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Re: Suspesion suspension suspension!!!
Scott,
Is foreplay really necessary?
I guess it comes down to doing it right or half baked, but what is right for me, might be overkill for you. I just know that it works for me. Takes about two days to do the couple of mods.
Let's face it, you can go further and replace the shock towers with new ones altogether and fit crossover steering and, and... , get my drift :?
Is foreplay really necessary?
I guess it comes down to doing it right or half baked, but what is right for me, might be overkill for you. I just know that it works for me. Takes about two days to do the couple of mods.
Let's face it, you can go further and replace the shock towers with new ones altogether and fit crossover steering and, and... , get my drift :?
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Re: Suspesion suspension suspension!!!
Ronald I think you hit the nail on the head here
What is best for one person is not what is best for the next and that goes further than just suspension.
I think each person has to have a realistic approach as to what they are going to be doing with there vehicle ie: trails, competitions, overlanding, dirt road, tar road etc...
I think there are many mods that make your vehicle better offroad but often at the compromise of safety on road. I think anybody using there 4x4 as a daily commuting vehicle needs to always keep this in mind
What is best for one person is not what is best for the next and that goes further than just suspension.
I think each person has to have a realistic approach as to what they are going to be doing with there vehicle ie: trails, competitions, overlanding, dirt road, tar road etc...
I think there are many mods that make your vehicle better offroad but often at the compromise of safety on road. I think anybody using there 4x4 as a daily commuting vehicle needs to always keep this in mind
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Re: Suspesion suspension suspension!!!
I have to agree with what is best for one may not be good for another.
I reckon that you can't be wrong to go with just plain OME. Yes all the other mods that you do are great but it adds on an extra 4k to the price. (was quoted 12k for OME excl damper)
For someone who is not doing hectic trails and uses the vehicle for overlanding and every day use, it is the best option and surely it wont give you hassles for years to come.
I guess I am just looking for, as most are, the best option that fits the pocket and the Lux. If I had 16k, Ronald, you would have my lux in tomorrow . Do you have a payment plan
I reckon that you can't be wrong to go with just plain OME. Yes all the other mods that you do are great but it adds on an extra 4k to the price. (was quoted 12k for OME excl damper)
For someone who is not doing hectic trails and uses the vehicle for overlanding and every day use, it is the best option and surely it wont give you hassles for years to come.
I guess I am just looking for, as most are, the best option that fits the pocket and the Lux. If I had 16k, Ronald, you would have my lux in tomorrow . Do you have a payment plan
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Re: Suspesion suspension suspension!!!
I have a great plan - some foreplay with the wife = more money to fit the suspension!
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Re: Suspesion suspension suspension!!!
Nou praat jy Ronald ! :D
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Re: Suspesion suspension suspension!!!
dieseldog wrote:I have a great plan - some foreplay with the wife = more money to fit the suspension!
Almost had water all over my keyboard. Good plan though.......will have to "discuss" it with her tonight
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Re: Suspesion suspension suspension!!!
Jy sien... ek het wel hande vol ghries ook in gesitblom wrote:
Cassie die poly bushes beinfloed wel jou articulation.
maak dit aansienlik swakker
Die hilux se bushes laat baie min "twist" toe tydens jou droop siklus en al die werk moet dan deur die springs gedoen ward, deur die rubber bushes met harder urethane te verfang benadeel jy jou artikulasie nog meer. Ek het cheap Midas rubber bushes gekoop hande vol ghries en in.
Die probleem is dat hulle nie baie lank hou nie, waar die urethane seker 'n leeftyd sal hou
Ek moet nou net die shocks source dan gaan die revolver shackles in :)
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Re: Suspesion suspension suspension!!!
I agree it all comes down to personal choice/ application for what you use your bakkie for
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Re: Suspesion suspension suspension!!!
Ek het op die forum agtergekom OME is seker maar die beste, maar op die stadium is dit net te veel vir my, so wat dink julle van my plan? Ek wil Mikem se bladvere insit saam met Monroe Shocks, dink julle dit sal werk?
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Re: Suspesion suspension suspension!!!
Me too, I need new suspension, but OME, eish, as tempting as it sounds...
Does anyone have pricing for Mikem? Is it cheaper than Ironman?
Does anyone have pricing for Mikem? Is it cheaper than Ironman?
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Re: Suspesion suspension suspension!!!
I still dont have my suspension sorted yet mostly because there are a few other things I need to spend what money I have on first.
I currently have Ironman and I find it very hard so the first thing Im going to do when I have the cash available is put OME springs upront with Manroe shocks then later I will carry on upgrading as I have cash available
I currently have Ironman and I find it very hard so the first thing Im going to do when I have the cash available is put OME springs upront with Manroe shocks then later I will carry on upgrading as I have cash available
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Re: Suspesion suspension suspension!!!
Tristan,
Make no mistake, OME suspension is certainly anything but comfortable!!! I removed one leaf from each of the front spring sets of my OME suspension set in Bulldog and it still is hard, but bearable. On the other hand, White Fang, which has IFS as well as an OME kit, is very comfortable to drive. A SFA offers a most capable ride, but simply does not provide a very comfortable one!
I am thinking of adding a new spring set to Shorty as well, his backside seems to be drooping a bit.
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Make no mistake, OME suspension is certainly anything but comfortable!!! I removed one leaf from each of the front spring sets of my OME suspension set in Bulldog and it still is hard, but bearable. On the other hand, White Fang, which has IFS as well as an OME kit, is very comfortable to drive. A SFA offers a most capable ride, but simply does not provide a very comfortable one!
I am thinking of adding a new spring set to Shorty as well, his backside seems to be drooping a bit.
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Madala jy raak nou oud gee maar vir boeldog vir my dan ry jy die ifs.
Boeldog is te erg op jou ou lyf anny way
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Chief,
Bly om dit te hoor. Ek het geweet dat diep in jou hart bly jy tog 'n Hilux man!
Nou mag jy jouself noem "Grenswagter van Landrovia & Hiluxland"!
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Bly om dit te hoor. Ek het geweet dat diep in jou hart bly jy tog 'n Hilux man!
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Re: Suspesion suspension suspension!!!
Blommieblom wrote: Take all these
Do this
Use these as well
Woala
18" shocks for rear off hilux
Fress off the press build to order for son off tazz
These unfortunately is some off the BEST money can buy
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Re: Suspesion suspension suspension!!!
1000 points for you.CasKru wrote:Wil net gou 'n klip in die bos gooi..
Want net quickly a stone in the bush throw...
Before going of and replacing all the blades and shocks etc etc... do yourselfs a favour. Just replace all the bushes on your suspension with new ones (preferably the Polyurothane ones) and you will be amazed in the difference in ride quality. The whole kit would cost in the region of about R400 bucks.
This will not affect articulation, only ride quality. m2cw
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Re: Suspesion suspension suspension!!!
Hierdie is al die parte wat in jou skokbreker kom ja dis alles in daai dun pypie ingekompress.
ons maak dit nou net baie groter ie meer olie, beter beheer ,makliker valving. Hierdie is 70mm od 18" travel met remote reservoir waar die olie en die nitrogen gas geskei word
Hierdie is die piston en jy kan die 70/30 compresion rebound verhouding duidelik sien, Die drie groter gate is dus die bypass gate vir die compression stroke en die 3 kleineres vir rebound maw skokbreker gaan vinnig in / stadig uit.
Die ronde "wasters" is die shims wet gebruik word om die non returns te maak wat weer die rebound en compression rate bepaal
So lyk die attie as hy aanmekaar is
Hierdie is dan nou
70mm Monotude remote reservoir skokbreker met 18" travel
70/30 piston met 80/85 valve rating(shims)
Nitrogen kan ook nou tussen 2 en 16 bar gepomp word vir verskillende resultate
As bogenoemde alles sense maak is jy defenitief nasa materiaal want tot ek verstaan dit nie
AAG nee Bennie daar kom hulle weer dieselfde size uit
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