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I hope this will spread to more countries because most vehicle manufacturers overstate the fuel economy and speed of their vehicles.
Like my Aygo, Toyota claims almost 21 km/l, I get about 17 km/l
Korean carmakers Hyundai Motor Co and affiliate Kia Motors Corp will pay $350 million in penalties to the US government for overstating vehicles' fuel economy ratings in what officials said on Monday was the biggest settlement of its kind.

The deal comes on top of $395 million the automakers agreed to pay last December to resolve claims from the owners of the vehicles, bringing the companies' total cost for the mileage overstatements to more than $700 million.

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Monday's settlement with the US Environmental Protection Agency, the US Department of Justice and the California Air Resources Board resolves an investigation of the South Korean carmakers' 2012 fuel economy ratings.

The penalties were the largest ever under the Clean Air Act.

"This will send an important message to automakers around the world that they must comply with the law," said Attorney General Eric Holder.

Under the accord, which involved the sale of 1.2 million cars and SUVs, the South Korean car firms will pay a $100 million penalty, spend around $50 million to prevent future violations and forfeit emissions credits estimated to be worth more than $200 million.

The greenhouse gas emissions that the forfeited credits would have allowed are equal to the emissions from powering more than 433,000 homes for a year, the EPA said.

"Businesses that play by the rules shouldn't have to compete with those breaking the law," said EPA Administrator Gina McCarthy.

McCarthy said Hyundai and Kia had committed the most egregious violation of the reporting standards. She declined to say whether other violators may also be fined.

"Every automaker will be looking carefully at its current testing procedure to avoid a similar penalty in the future," said Karl Brauer, senior analyst at Kelley Blue Book's KBB.com, who noted "frustration in the gray area between automakers' stated MPG numbers and the real-world results experienced by car owners."

In November 2012, Hyundai and Kia conceded they overstated fuel economy by at least a mile per gallon on vehicles after the EPA found errors for 13 Hyundai and Kia models from the 2011 to 2013 model years. Hyundai said at the time that the affected cars' reported fuel economy would be adjusted by 1 to 2 miles per gallon.

Hyundai and Kia both increased their shares of the US new-vehicle market in the past decade, particularly during the economic downturn of 2008 to 2010 when consumers craved fuel-efficient and relatively low-priced vehicles.

"We are pleased to put this behind us," said Hyundai US chief David Zuchowski. The company added that it believes its process for testing vehicle fuel economy meets US guidelines, and the overstatement was a result of a data processing error.

Hyundai's US chief at the time, John Krafcik, stepped down after his contract expired at the end of 2013.

Kia in a statement said its priority "remains making things right for our customers through our fair and transparent reimbursement program."
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The company added that it believes its process for testing vehicle fuel economy meets US guidelines, and the overstatement was a result of a data processing error.
Yeah, .... deliberate, manual data processing. :lol:

Agree with you though, Pieter. One cannot rely on the specs they publish, and it's wrong - in many cases those specs may be what sways a buyer to make a choice decision.
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Thing is it all the manufactures

however in a way they have been pushed in that directions
as the figures they quote are done in a lab
yep
the car is put on a dyno in a lab and all manufacturers are doing this
hence why it is very difficult to get the manufacturer quoted fuel consumption

with the kia picanto, also got to the manufactures quoted fuel consumption
however
that was using a mutch fkater road to work and back
that alternative road also has a lower speed limit, and lots of speed straps and had to drive like I had egs under the accelerator
not practical

yep sadly all brands do it
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I hope this will spread to more countries because most vehicle manufacturers overstate the fuel economy and speed of their vehicles.
Like my Aygo, Toyota claims almost 21 km/l, I get about 17 km/l
I guess you don't tape up the doors and remove the back seats etc when you drive...
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Think of all the advantages of an over reading speedometer:
1. Around the braai fire, the car's top speed is quoted higher than it really is (good for marketing)
2. It clocks more km than it should, so the car seems to be lighter on fuel (good for marketing)
3. The engine lasts longer than it really does. (good for marketing)
4. The car is out of warranty quicker than it should. (good for manufacturer's bank balance)

If you look at the above points, with the technology available today, WHY would any vehicle manufacturer attempt to install accurate speedometers?
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Agreed Pieter, there is no reason for them NOT to use GPS technology for accurate speeds and distances... The technology is cheap and readily available... :silent: :silent:
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On the speed os
Jeeps with correct size tyres are spot on

every thing else i have driven over reads
my bakkie has a ery happy speedo
at 145km/h on the clock is still get no fines :yahoo: :yahoo:
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Toyota is big fan over overstating their economy... Even their on board computer does it :blackeye: :blackeye:
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