Sand/Dirt and Tyre Beads
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Sand/Dirt and Tyre Beads
About a year ago I managed to dislodge a tyre on a day out in the bush.
The moment of impact:
The Result:
That tyre was re-beaded using the methylated spirits trick, you know, have a sip, pour some on the bead, have another sip, light a match and drop it on the tyre, the spirits ignite, expands inside the tyre and pops the trye back on the bead. Easy-peazy.
Since then that tyre was moved to the left rear, from time to time I noticed that it was deflating slowly, especially at lower pressure, while standing still. This meant one thing. I didn't clean the bead properly before I did the spirits thing and there was still some muck stuck between the bead and the rim, which is not a problem when the tyre is inflated to 2bar, but once the tyre gets deflated to 0.7 for sand-work the seal starts leaking and the tyre deflates.
Last Sunday when we went to Atlantis this became especially bad, as I had to inflate the tyre on 2 occasions, and ended up inflating it to 1.5bar in the end, as that is when the seal stopped leaking. I have been meaning to have the tyre removed and the beads cleaned, but never got round to it. This morning I decided to have it done quickly, and popped in at Supaquick in Brackenfell. I was amazed at the amount of muck and sand that got stuck in the tyre and the bead. Obviously over the last year, as we drove off road with deflated tyres, more and more muck got in. Unfortunately I didnt have my camera with me, so I didn't take any pictures, but the attendant who helped me got a bucket of hot soapy water, a brush and washed the entire rim, and the inside of the tyre and rebalanced the lot. All that for a mere R45.
Depending on the amount of off-roading you do it is a good idea to make sure those surfaces get cleaned properly from time to time. We did a lot of sand this year and every time more and more sand seems to work their way in there. :roll:
The moment of impact:
The Result:
That tyre was re-beaded using the methylated spirits trick, you know, have a sip, pour some on the bead, have another sip, light a match and drop it on the tyre, the spirits ignite, expands inside the tyre and pops the trye back on the bead. Easy-peazy.
Since then that tyre was moved to the left rear, from time to time I noticed that it was deflating slowly, especially at lower pressure, while standing still. This meant one thing. I didn't clean the bead properly before I did the spirits thing and there was still some muck stuck between the bead and the rim, which is not a problem when the tyre is inflated to 2bar, but once the tyre gets deflated to 0.7 for sand-work the seal starts leaking and the tyre deflates.
Last Sunday when we went to Atlantis this became especially bad, as I had to inflate the tyre on 2 occasions, and ended up inflating it to 1.5bar in the end, as that is when the seal stopped leaking. I have been meaning to have the tyre removed and the beads cleaned, but never got round to it. This morning I decided to have it done quickly, and popped in at Supaquick in Brackenfell. I was amazed at the amount of muck and sand that got stuck in the tyre and the bead. Obviously over the last year, as we drove off road with deflated tyres, more and more muck got in. Unfortunately I didnt have my camera with me, so I didn't take any pictures, but the attendant who helped me got a bucket of hot soapy water, a brush and washed the entire rim, and the inside of the tyre and rebalanced the lot. All that for a mere R45.
Depending on the amount of off-roading you do it is a good idea to make sure those surfaces get cleaned properly from time to time. We did a lot of sand this year and every time more and more sand seems to work their way in there. :roll:
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Re: Sand/Dirt and Tyre Beads
KASPAASI am looking for a bumper like yours.
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g'n wonder dit gebeur nie,daai engin is te sterk vir daai bakkie,jou co-pilot moet verander na iemand soos niel toe,bietjie meer gewig voor he.
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We did a lot of sand this year and every time more and more sand seems to work their way in there.
if the seal is not broken,how can the mud come in their,or do you drive your van on the rims,then it will happen
if the seal is not broken,how can the mud come in their,or do you drive your van on the rims,then it will happen
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Ek het dit al oorweeg om af te skaal na 'n 4Y ( any flavour) met EFI, maar toe maar besluit... as dit waarmee ek nou sit "sukkel" is, dan hoop ek dit hou nog lank aan...bosV8rk wrote:g'n wonder dit gebeur nie,daai engin is te sterk vir daai bakkie,
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[/quote]Darryl, it is a standard Raider front bullbar that I cut and modified a bit. Strong and lightweight.Riceburner wrote:KASPAASI am looking for a bumper like yours.
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little bit off the topic but what you guys reckon is a better tyres for sand driving...
I heard that the normal road tyres is better than the nobbly mud tyres cause the more surface area means more flotation
I heard that the normal road tyres is better than the nobbly mud tyres cause the more surface area means more flotation
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Thys... ek het een keer die tip gesien dat as mens baie in sand ry is dit 'n goeie idee om silicon sealer te vat en reg rondom die rim en die tyre te smeer. Dit keer dat sand by die bead inkom en dat die sand die tyre op vreet. Ek het dit nog nooi gedoen nie want het nog nooit sand gery nie.
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Hoe papper hoe beter...dalkill wrote:little bit off the topic but what you guys reckon is a better tyres for sand driving...
I heard that the normal road tyres is better than the nobbly mud tyres cause the more surface area means more flotation
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Ja dit kan seker werk, maar die forces wat daar aan die werk is is sekerlik meer as wat 'n bietjie silicon sealer gaan uithou. Sodra jy kom kuier dan smeer ons jou rims vol silicon, dan toets ons dit.CasKru wrote:Thys... ek het een keer die tip gesien dat as mens baie in sand ry is dit 'n goeie idee om silicon sealer te vat en reg rondom die rim en die tyre te smeer. Dit keer dat sand by die bead inkom en dat die sand die tyre op vreet. Ek het dit nog nooi gedoen nie want het nog nooit sand gery nie.
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issie... op 'n stadium gaan dit te pap wees :)Kaspaas wrote:Hoe papper hoe beter...dalkill wrote:little bit off the topic but what you guys reckon is a better tyres for sand driving...
I heard that the normal road tyres is better than the nobbly mud tyres cause the more surface area means more flotation
dalkill... as far as I can remember, according to ASPW it is better to drive on sand with AT tyres than Mud.
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Ek dink dit is nou meer van pas as jy toer deur die Namib of so... nie deur die duine hoener ens nie ...Kaspaas wrote:Ja dit kan seker werk, maar die forces wat daar aan die werk is is sekerlik meer as wat 'n bietjie silicon sealer gaan uithou. Sodra jy kom kuier dan smeer ons jou rims vol silicon, dan toets ons dit.CasKru wrote:Thys... ek het een keer die tip gesien dat as mens baie in sand ry is dit 'n goeie idee om silicon sealer te vat en reg rondom die rim en die tyre te smeer. Dit keer dat sand by die bead inkom en dat die sand die tyre op vreet. Ek het dit nog nooi gedoen nie want het nog nooit sand gery nie.
Miskien moet jy maar invest in 'n stel rims met beadlocks
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Nee wat dis nie so ernstig nie. Ek het darem in al die jare nog net daai 1 keer 'n band afgestamp. En dit was my eie stoopidgeit. My ego het bestuur nie ek nie..CasKru wrote:Miskien moet jy maar invest in 'n stel rims met beadlocks
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That is true, not just ASPW but also a whole host of other off-road fundi's says so. But what I meant was that an MT at low pressure is better than an AT (anything) at too high pressure.CasKru wrote:dalkill... as far as I can remember, according to ASPW it is better to drive on sand with AT tyres than Mud.
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voor jy die tyre optrek smeer jy hom vol silicon.
Kaspaas wrote:Ja dit kan seker werk, maar die forces wat daar aan die werk is is sekerlik meer as wat 'n bietjie silicon sealer gaan uithou. Sodra jy kom kuier dan smeer ons jou rims vol silicon, dan toets ons dit.CasKru wrote:Thys... ek het een keer die tip gesien dat as mens baie in sand ry is dit 'n goeie idee om silicon sealer te vat en reg rondom die rim en die tyre te smeer. Dit keer dat sand by die bead inkom en dat die sand die tyre op vreet. Ek het dit nog nooi gedoen nie want het nog nooit sand gery nie.
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Watter kleur stel jy voor? Wit/swart/clear/grys/blou? :roll: Ek moet se. dit sal nogals interesant lyk... :roll:bosV8rk wrote:voor jy die tyre optrek smeer jy hom vol silicon.
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Ja dit kan seker werk, maar die forces wat daar aan die werk is is sekerlik meer as wat 'n bietjie silicon sealer gaan uithou
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Ek het ook daai ding gehoor, maar dit is blykbaar net van toepassing as jy met kruiwa-bandjies ry soos jy...bosV8rk wrote:drywer gewig speel n groot rol
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Thys,
net vir interesantheid, wat is die breedte van daardie rims van jou? 10J?
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net vir interesantheid, wat is die breedte van daardie rims van jou? 10J?
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Yip, hulle is 10J. Eintlik is hulle te breed, ek weet, maar ek het al geleer hoe om met hulle te ry en ek geniet hulle.ROOIWYN wrote:Thys,
net vir interesantheid, wat is die breedte van daardie rims van jou? 10J?
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Nee,
ek verstaan, Rooiwyn hardloop ook met 10J en '33 bande op die oomblik, maar ek het die eerste keer so 3 weke terug ook 'n band gehad waarvan die bead afgekom het, gekry. Nou toets ek maar die feit dat die 10J reeds die bande vetter laat uitstaan en ek hulle nie so pap hoef te ry vir "traction" nie.
ek verstaan, Rooiwyn hardloop ook met 10J en '33 bande op die oomblik, maar ek het die eerste keer so 3 weke terug ook 'n band gehad waarvan die bead afgekom het, gekry. Nou toets ek maar die feit dat die 10J reeds die bande vetter laat uitstaan en ek hulle nie so pap hoef te ry vir "traction" nie.
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maar ek het al geleer hoe om met hulle te ry - SOOS N REGTE KASPAAS DIT IS NOU OUMAN STYL - Hoe papper hoe beter
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Re: Sand/Dirt and Tyre Beads
Marius, jy moet maar nog steeds afblaas vir traction ten spyte van die feit dat die band vetter uitskop, maar hy trap makliker af omdat die beads verder uit mekaar uit is.
Die "vastrap" gaan nie so erg oor die wydte van die voetspoor as die lengte nie, as jy verstaan wat ek bedoel.
Ek hoef ten minste nie te jaag dat my broek om my kniee hang net om teen 'n ou walletjie op te ry nie. Ek het nog daai foto... ek is seker die mense wil dit nie WEER sien nie... :roll: :roll:
Die "vastrap" gaan nie so erg oor die wydte van die voetspoor as die lengte nie, as jy verstaan wat ek bedoel.
Johan, as dit is wat jy dit wil noem dan is dit jou voorreg, maar dit werk vir my en ek kom daar waar ek wil wees sonder geweld, en ek stort nie 'n druppel van die coke zero waaraan ek drink terwyl ek ry nie...Bosv8rk wrote:SOOS N REGTE KASPAAS DIT IS NOU OUMAN STYL
Ek hoef ten minste nie te jaag dat my broek om my kniee hang net om teen 'n ou walletjie op te ry nie. Ek het nog daai foto... ek is seker die mense wil dit nie WEER sien nie... :roll: :roll:
Thys de Jager
CEO and Refreshments Manager at Team Offroad.
2010 Hilux 3.0 D4D D/C 4x4 with GOMAD "Brood" Canopy. Tripod.
1997 Jeep Wrangler TJ 4.0 Sport. The original SFA. AGA... Gooi kole
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CEO and Refreshments Manager at Team Offroad.
2010 Hilux 3.0 D4D D/C 4x4 with GOMAD "Brood" Canopy. Tripod.
1997 Jeep Wrangler TJ 4.0 Sport. The original SFA. AGA... Gooi kole
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Re: Sand/Dirt and Tyre Beads
standard 2.2 ja,hy mag maar jaag om oral uit te kom,maar hy kom uit
n vark bly maar n vark
- ThysdJ
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Re: Sand/Dirt and Tyre Beads
Nee jy verstaan verkeerd... hy MOET jaag om oral uit te kom..bosV8rk wrote:standard 2.2 ja,hy mag maar jaag om oral uit te kom,maar hy kom uit
maar ek moet vir jou 'n klein komplimentjie gee my vriend met die gekrulde stert... jy is een van die min manne wat ek al gesien het wat weet hoe om met daai lelike groen standard 2.2 bakkie op plekke uit te kom. :roll: :roll:
Thys de Jager
CEO and Refreshments Manager at Team Offroad.
2010 Hilux 3.0 D4D D/C 4x4 with GOMAD "Brood" Canopy. Tripod.
1997 Jeep Wrangler TJ 4.0 Sport. The original SFA. AGA... Gooi kole
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2010 Hilux 3.0 D4D D/C 4x4 with GOMAD "Brood" Canopy. Tripod.
1997 Jeep Wrangler TJ 4.0 Sport. The original SFA. AGA... Gooi kole
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