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by Doctor V
Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:37 am
Forum: General Hilux Discussions
Topic: What is my Fortuner worth in monetary terms
Replies: 4
Views: 1215

What is my Fortuner worth in monetary terms

So addition nr 3 on her way to the household and looks like the Tuna might have to be traded in or sold. Purely from a space perspective fitting everything in the vehicle. (I will now have 3 toddlers under the age of 5) Definitely not moving away from Toyota, but instead looking at Hilux or Cruiser....
by Doctor V
Mon Aug 31, 2015 11:38 am
Forum: Toyota Fortuner 4x4 Forum
Topic: Fortuner Luggage Carrier options
Replies: 1
Views: 4218

Fortuner Luggage Carrier options

So sitting with a bit of a problem. The middle seat in the Fortuner has a stupid lap belt, and with kid nr 3 on the way, I have to move the eldest to one of the jump seats(I have to put the space stealer back again). Thus, for quickly going away, I can prob get away with everything inside the vehicl...
by Doctor V
Thu Aug 28, 2014 12:10 pm
Forum: Open Discussion
Topic: Double Cab Rental in JHB
Replies: 0
Views: 657

Double Cab Rental in JHB

I am traveling to JHB in October and looking to rent a double cab or SUV (preference Toy or Amakrok)for a few days. Does not have to be 4x4. Any suggestions of companies I can try that won't cost me an arm and leg :thumbup: :thumbup:
by Doctor V
Tue Apr 29, 2014 9:51 am
Forum: General Hilux Discussions
Topic: What brand of roofrack??
Replies: 7
Views: 1388

Re: What brand of roofrack??

Had a quick chat with Ciske at Gomad. So far I have them top of my list. WayneSchalk - maybe give them a shout
by Doctor V
Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:48 pm
Forum: General Hilux Discussions
Topic: What brand of roofrack??
Replies: 7
Views: 1388

Re: What brand of roofrack??

Do FR have offices in town, or Distributors?
by Doctor V
Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:43 am
Forum: General Hilux Discussions
Topic: What brand of roofrack??
Replies: 7
Views: 1388

What brand of roofrack??

Looking to add a roofrack to my Tuna as Doctor V 2.0 is arriving one of these days :yahoo: :yahoo: Now started doing some research and looking for something strong and durable, coz everything that I leisurely throw in the car, now needs to be relocated topside. And living in Cape Town means stainles...
by Doctor V
Fri Mar 07, 2014 2:05 pm
Forum: Electronic Gadgets and Radios
Topic: Eskom - No thanks I have Solar!
Replies: 1
Views: 1580

Eskom - No thanks I have Solar!

Got my new kit today and can't wait to test it over the weekend!!! :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: 120Amp Raylite Silver Calcium Leisure 10A Steca Solsum Regulator 110W Solar Panel 600W Sine wave Inverter Although it won't power my house, I can at least use a few items(methinks the TV and DS...
by Doctor V
Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:50 pm
Forum: General Hilux Discussions
Topic: Kurt Darren/Toyota
Replies: 39
Views: 3798

Re: Kurt Darren/Toyota

Ek hoor die ongeluk het hom skeel gemaak. Is dit `n verbetering dalk? :lol: :lol: :lol:
by Doctor V
Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:09 pm
Forum: Western Cape
Topic: Kriges Friday- 08/02
Replies: 43
Views: 4236

Re: Kriges Friday- 08/02

Die Dokter gaan hard probeer om daar te wees - mits ek nie creché beheer is nie :yahoo: :yahoo: ....!!!

En ja ek werk hard op Vrydag - gister was my Turf and Grass management dag! :celebrate: :celebrate:
by Doctor V
Fri Jan 04, 2013 12:32 pm
Forum: Open Discussion
Topic: Papa's got a brand new toy...
Replies: 109
Views: 10405

Re: Papa's got a brand new toy...

SwartKat/Ramkat?????
by Doctor V
Fri Jul 13, 2012 7:52 am
Forum: Open Discussion
Topic: Urgent Weather Warning!!!!!
Replies: 8
Views: 1565

Re: Urgent Weather Warning!!!!!

I think other provinces should implement the "we'll confiscate your cellphone if we see you use it while driving" law. :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: See in this mornings' paper that blue tooth devices are flying off the shelves!!! Mr B, it's def cool this morning albeit 7. Last week the lo...
by Doctor V
Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:21 pm
Forum: Open Discussion
Topic: Capetonians and wet weather driving
Replies: 11
Views: 1772

Re: Capetonians and wet weather driving

Peeps with kids on their laps or standing in the car can expect a little hoot and finger from me :thumbup: :thumbup: And it ain't my thumb..... :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo:
by Doctor V
Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:39 am
Forum: Open Discussion
Topic: Capetonians and wet weather driving
Replies: 11
Views: 1772

Re: Capetonians and wet weather driving

Must say, had an Idiot in a Defender 90 doing 120 behind me on the N2. No lights - could not see him in the spray. :thumbdown: :thumbdown: But like thys said - even in the dry some peeps are idiots. love it in the morning down Vissershok when @ least 5 cars sit behind trucks doing 50. and the are un...
by Doctor V
Mon Jul 09, 2012 8:21 am
Forum: Open Discussion
Topic: Capetonians and wet weather driving
Replies: 11
Views: 1772

Capetonians and wet weather driving

Just gotto love these bloody brilliant drivers in CPT. As soon as it rains, their brains turn to porridge and suddenly they drive 60 in the 120 zone, or they become Michael Schumacher! :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: So yesterday came back from Onrus in something of a monsoon. Not to bad as the Tuna i...
by Doctor V
Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:58 am
Forum: Toyota Fortuner 4x4 Forum
Topic: FORTUNER OR PRADO
Replies: 20
Views: 4983

Re: FORTUNER OR PRADO

Well, The Doctor have been driving his 2007 Fortuner for past month and absolute dream (well, previously had a SFA... :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: ) Consumption is about 9km\L mixed mode driving. And have 265\75 BF's with OME fitted. The Tuna is nippy and drives like a car - BUT, be aware it is not and w...
by Doctor V
Wed May 30, 2012 10:53 am
Forum: Open Discussion
Topic: Where to find Malamoo Xtra tents
Replies: 16
Views: 3009

Re: Where to find Malamoo Xtra tents

Was @ Megaworld Paardeneiland this morning, but no Malamoo's in stock. Apparently waiting on Oztent to bring in stock.

Did get the document though from a friend - will mail to those interested
by Doctor V
Mon May 28, 2012 8:48 am
Forum: Open Discussion
Topic: Where to find Malamoo Xtra tents
Replies: 16
Views: 3009

Where to find Malamoo Xtra tents

Good Morning

Any idea where I can have a look @ Malamoo Xtra tents? And obviously where I'll be able to find a good price? :thumbup: :thumbup:
by Doctor V
Thu May 24, 2012 2:42 pm
Forum: Open Discussion
Topic: Bye Bye Roeskol\Kotskoets
Replies: 14
Views: 2039

Re: Bye Bye Roeskol\Kotskoets

Ja die gesig is maar skaars. Met nuwe wa sal ek seker meer skop kry! Mits die mejuffrou by die huis haar pa toelaat :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
by Doctor V
Thu May 24, 2012 11:02 am
Forum: Open Discussion
Topic: Bye Bye Roeskol\Kotskoets
Replies: 14
Views: 2039

Bye Bye Roeskol\Kotskoets

OK so after much deliberation with SWAMBO, and the addition of a little Miss Doctor V in January, it was decided my beloved SFA had to go to greener pastures. :oops: :oops: :oops: (I have done all the pro's and cons yes...) So my brother-in-law was really keen to grab this opportunity as they travel...
by Doctor V
Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:55 am
Forum: Open Discussion
Topic: Alternate Dog food
Replies: 29
Views: 3424

Re: Alternate Dog food

Used to feed my 2 demons (Boerboel X Lab's) a variety of foods when they were younger. Stuck with Montego classic till they developed health issues. Male went onto Royal Canin and female on Vet's Choice Lite and later bothe went onto Vet's choice Lite - the Senior Vet's Choice left them hungry as bo...
by Doctor V
Mon Sep 12, 2011 9:16 am
Forum: Open Discussion
Topic: Head-on Accident - Grabouw 10\9\2011
Replies: 0
Views: 909

Head-on Accident - Grabouw 10\9\2011

Morning All Not sure if anybody got details on this one. Myself and SWAMBO were one of the 1st people on the scene. This happened @ about 6:20am Saturday morning, about a kilometer past the Peregrine Farmstall (that area where it becomes 100 and the cops are always hiding). in bad Basically a BMW 3 ...
by Doctor V
Mon Jul 18, 2011 3:16 pm
Forum: General Hilux Discussions
Topic: Veigheids gordels sfa
Replies: 4
Views: 1035

Re: Veigheids gordels sfa

Myne vervang met die generic's wat hulle by midas verkoop. die stalks is regte lengte ook! :yahoo: :yahoo:
by Doctor V
Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:01 am
Forum: General Hilux Discussions
Topic: Kuhmo KL 71's Muds performance
Replies: 18
Views: 2531

Re: Kuhmo KL 71's Muds performance

Daai Sidewall grips teen lae druk byt vas aan die kante van die spoor en dan "trek" dit die bakkie amper uit die spoor uit. Jy voel hom sommer as hy vasbyt - en in sand is dit werk. Selfs op Henties se spoor strande moet jy jou storie ken, anners maak jy jou eie spoor!
by Doctor V
Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:04 am
Forum: General Hilux Discussions
Topic: Kuhmo KL 71's Muds performance
Replies: 18
Views: 2531

Re: Kuhmo KL 71's Muds performance

I'm a Kumho convert and have had them on my truck since 2007. 15 X 31" This is my experience with them: - They are very quiet on road - much less than cooper STT's or BF Muds. I do a lot of tar with window open and can still have a decent conversation. Inflated to 2.4 bar and ride becomes smooo...
by Doctor V
Fri Jul 01, 2011 8:29 am
Forum: General Hilux Discussions
Topic: XXX HiLuX PoRn XXX Post your dirty ones hErE
Replies: 30
Views: 5094

Re: XXX HiLuX PoRn XXX Post your dirty ones hErE

Sometimes I just wish I was mud... :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo:

My own bakkie after a bit of clean up
by Doctor V
Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:31 pm
Forum: General Hilux Discussions
Topic: 3 Point Safety Belts for SFA Rear Seat
Replies: 10
Views: 1798

Re: 3 Point Safety Belts for SFA Rear Seat

Toemaar Eric - ek verstaan. Ek sit noooit agter nie. dan sit ek sommer agter in die bak!!!! :razz: :razz: :razz:
by Doctor V
Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:03 am
Forum: General Hilux Discussions
Topic: Baie opgewonde!
Replies: 16
Views: 2441

Re: Baie opgewonde!

4700km's gedoen met die Mikems en beste vir my niere gewees. Grondpaaie in Nam, Woestyn en ook Henties :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbu...
by Doctor V
Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:01 am
Forum: General Hilux Discussions
Topic: 3 Point Safety Belts for SFA Rear Seat
Replies: 10
Views: 1798

Re: 3 Point Safety Belts for SFA Rear Seat

Eric - you perhaps have pics of the pillar mount points? :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
by Doctor V
Mon Jun 27, 2011 4:12 pm
Forum: General Hilux Discussions
Topic: 3 Point Safety Belts for SFA Rear Seat
Replies: 10
Views: 1798

Re: 3 Point Safety Belts for SFA Rear Seat

gaan haal dit net asb!!!! soek net my Hella plug en 2 visvang rodholders
by Doctor V
Mon Jun 27, 2011 3:52 pm
Forum: General Hilux Discussions
Topic: 3 Point Safety Belts for SFA Rear Seat
Replies: 10
Views: 1798

Re: 3 Point Safety Belts for SFA Rear Seat

kwaai lappies - just need to pull that grey carpet away..... and just wondering if my rear seat is still @ Hoppy's place :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

BTW Free canopy at his place - or 2 bottles of Brandy
by Doctor V
Mon Jun 27, 2011 3:26 pm
Forum: General Hilux Discussions
Topic: 3 Point Safety Belts for SFA Rear Seat
Replies: 10
Views: 1798

3 Point Safety Belts for SFA Rear Seat

3Point Safetybelts for the rear seats

Can this be done on the older SFA's? Rather than the 3 kidney belts? Would the side pillar support the bolt etc?

If not I might be forced to sell old Roeskol.... :beg: :beg: :beg: :beg: :beg: :beg: :beg: :beg:
by Doctor V
Wed Jun 01, 2011 10:36 am
Forum: Open Discussion
Topic: THE BOSS NEEDS OUR HELP!!!!!
Replies: 73
Views: 35631

Re: THE BOSS NEEDS OUR HELP!!!!!

wouldn't the same then apply for tires? they look the same? and what about cars - I'm sure some of those Chinese imports look like more well known brands and the list goes on and on and on. methinks unless they prove that some part of that snorkel is unique and trademark registered they can forget a...
by Doctor V
Tue May 31, 2011 4:45 pm
Forum: Open Discussion
Topic: THE BOSS NEEDS OUR HELP!!!!!
Replies: 73
Views: 35631

Re: THE BOSS NEEDS OUR HELP!!!!!

ek dink net mens begin maar net daai bliksemente se produkte te boikot. En vertel jou tjomme, en hulle tjomme. en elke ou wat jy by `n 4X4 dag ontmoet
by Doctor V
Fri May 20, 2011 3:36 pm
Forum: General Hilux Discussions
Topic: drawer systems
Replies: 13
Views: 3223

Re: drawer systems

Back seat option worked like a charm for my fridge! Waeco allows the lid direction to be changed. Removed back seat. Used ply wood, some rivets, square tubing and l brackets to creat a level rear area. could store all my spares, recovery equipment between it and the front seat. Fridge sat perfect on...
by Doctor V
Thu May 19, 2011 3:44 pm
Forum: General Hilux Discussions
Topic: Hilux SFA – soon to be extinct?
Replies: 16
Views: 2521

Re: Hilux SFA – soon to be extinct?

also funny on weekends away people are interested in my bakkie and want to buy - rust and all!!!
by Doctor V
Tue May 17, 2011 2:33 pm
Forum: Hiking, Mountain Climbing and Abseiling
Topic: Fish River Canyon Hike
Replies: 25
Views: 7448

Re: Fish River Canyon Hike

Stubsie - ask Allan to work his magic on your carb, and get the cold air induction!!!! Before the trip got 5.5km\l fully loaded. now started with 6 and worked my way up to 8!!!!! doing 110 obviously :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo:
by Doctor V
Mon May 16, 2011 9:59 am
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: Namibia 2011
Replies: 26
Views: 5232

Re: Namibia 2011

Jislaaik maar ek wens ek was nou in Namibië - hier die koelerige lug en mis laat my dink aan die duine naby aan die see...
by Doctor V
Sat May 14, 2011 7:53 am
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: Namibia 2011
Replies: 26
Views: 5232

Re: Namibia 2011

Tempting!!!!!!!! jy kan dalk net na 4 by die grens wees met daai nuwe tekkies!
by Doctor V
Sat May 14, 2011 7:16 am
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: Namibia 2011
Replies: 26
Views: 5232

Re: Namibia 2011

MMMmMMM Saturday morning and checking the pics again. Deeeepression!!!! Maybe I should kick my work habit and stick to a trip habit. Or a writing habit :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo:
by Doctor V
Thu May 12, 2011 9:29 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: Namibia 2011
Replies: 26
Views: 5232

Namibia 2011

Well, after months of planning, trillions of questions, numerous visits to Allan, spending a few pennies and viewing other 4X4's, the day of reckoning for Roeskol eventually arrived Come Easter Friday morning we left Durbanville in convoy, loaded up with provisions for our 5 day desert trip and then...
by Doctor V
Thu May 12, 2011 12:35 pm
Forum: Hiking, Mountain Climbing and Abseiling
Topic: Fish River Canyon Hike
Replies: 25
Views: 7448

Re: Fish River Canyon Hike

Stubsie - hope you are not already there as no hiking currently allowed!!! Hardap full to the brim and and Fish River nearly overflowing close to Mariental
by Doctor V
Thu May 12, 2011 10:21 am
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: Faces of the Namib
Replies: 41
Views: 4281

Re: Faces of the Namib

ja, kyk, soos iemand vir my na die tyd gesê het BTW waarom wil jy 'n ander voertuig hê vir die volgende trip. Ek was uiters beïndruk met die Hilux. Jy sien: daar was eintlik net 'n paar ouens wat regtig vernuf moes toon in die duine. Om 'n monster-masjien met 'n outo ratkas in die duine te hê, maak ...
by Doctor V
Wed May 11, 2011 4:50 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: Faces of the Namib
Replies: 41
Views: 4281

Re: Faces of the Namib

ek selwers moet myne nog skryf. ons het die Faces Plus Plus opsie gedoen. En ek moet sê ek het dit oorleef in my 2.2 4Y DC!!!!! Ek is al deur my toer groep aangespreek toe hulle hoor ek mag dalk ander voertuig koop vir die 2013 trip...
by Doctor V
Thu Apr 21, 2011 9:01 pm
Forum: Open Discussion
Topic: Laaste dag op Kantoor!!!
Replies: 13
Views: 1708

Re: Laaste dag op Kantoor!!!

Alles gepak en nou tel ek ure af. :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: 6 dae woestyn en 6 dae Henties!!!! :beach: :beach: :beach:
by Doctor V
Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:43 am
Forum: Open Discussion
Topic: Laaste dag op Kantoor!!!
Replies: 13
Views: 1708

Re: Laaste dag op Kantoor!!!

En net `n bietjie Bramfyn om seker te maak ek bly in oefening. En Jagermeister om die koue te verdryf :beach: :beach:
by Doctor V
Wed Apr 20, 2011 10:36 am
Forum: Open Discussion
Topic: Laaste dag op Kantoor!!!
Replies: 13
Views: 1708

Re: Laaste dag op Kantoor!!!

En ys in die vrieskas - hulle sê mens raak dors in die woestyn in die Weste!!! :thumbup: :thumbup: julle geweet mens kan 51 blikkies Tafel Lager in `n ammokis pak? (ek voer dit terug in, aangesien ons oor paasnaweek die woestyn inry en wil nie kans waag om niks te hê nie :acute: :acute: :acute: )
by Doctor V
Wed Apr 20, 2011 10:18 am
Forum: Open Discussion
Topic: Laaste dag op Kantoor!!!
Replies: 13
Views: 1708

Laaste dag op Kantoor!!!

Vakansie begin amptelik vanmiddag 5 Bells!!!! More pak ek die donkie en Vrydag skree ek Namibië hier kom ek!!!! :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo:
by Doctor V
Fri Apr 15, 2011 10:06 am
Forum: General Hilux Discussions
Topic: Guestimate
Replies: 46
Views: 4281

Re: Guestimate

Thanks to Internet and common knowledge and my Sub A teacher for helping me Read.... I wired my spotlights - new wires, fuse box, 12V relay, switch in cab. And it worked 1st time I switched the power back on!!!!! :yahoo: :yahoo: Although not a mega job it was time consuming getting all the old crap ...
by Doctor V
Thu Apr 14, 2011 10:30 am
Forum: General Hilux Discussions
Topic: Guestimate
Replies: 46
Views: 4281

Re: Guestimate

When I posted the pics I saw the loose pipe. Some appies - believe them if they say it is tightened :wth: :wth: though I heard an extra vavaa voom this morning :thumbup: :thumbup: Pipe anyway too old so will replace today and do it right the 1st time :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: Tonight Mission Spotlight...
by Doctor V
Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:48 am
Forum: General Hilux Discussions
Topic: Guestimate
Replies: 46
Views: 4281

Re: Guestimate

Hope this helps
by Doctor V
Wed Apr 13, 2011 12:22 pm
Forum: General Hilux Discussions
Topic: Guestimate
Replies: 46
Views: 4281

Re: Guestimate

Will grab proper camera to show the position - all squeezed in and Rooies had to use the plasma to get the filter out when we did the induction bit
by Doctor V
Wed Apr 13, 2011 11:08 am
Forum: General Hilux Discussions
Topic: Ek oorweeg dit om 'n Nissan te koop...
Replies: 58
Views: 3554

Re: Ek oorweeg dit om 'n Nissan te koop...

Met Mikems en regte Gabriels is my niere weer eweskielik myne in die SFA!!!!
by Doctor V
Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:51 am
Forum: General Hilux Discussions
Topic: Guestimate
Replies: 46
Views: 4281

Re: Guestimate

Met die geld wat ek nou spandeer het aan die bakkie sal ek hom nog moet ry vir at least nog 2 of 3 jaar of as ek die land verlaat - whichever comes first!!! :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo:
by Doctor V
Tue Apr 12, 2011 4:33 pm
Forum: General Hilux Discussions
Topic: Ek oorweeg dit om 'n Nissan te koop...
Replies: 58
Views: 3554

Re: Ek oorweeg dit om 'n Nissan te koop...

Polisiekoffie werk wondere!!! :thumbup: :thumbup:
by Doctor V
Tue Apr 12, 2011 4:12 pm
Forum: General Hilux Discussions
Topic: Ek oorweeg dit om 'n Nissan te koop...
Replies: 58
Views: 3554

Re: Ek oorweeg dit om 'n Nissan te koop...

een van my pelle het identiese single cab gehad. Tot vandag toe huil hy oor daai bakkie. En sy woorde.. "Ek moes eerder `n groter kar vir my vrou gekoop het!!" :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
by Doctor V
Tue Apr 12, 2011 1:14 pm
Forum: General Hilux Discussions
Topic: Guestimate
Replies: 46
Views: 4281

Re: Guestimate

die dag as jy van Kaspaas ontslae raak :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo:
by Doctor V
Tue Apr 12, 2011 10:31 am
Forum: General Hilux Discussions
Topic: Guestimate
Replies: 46
Views: 4281

Re: Guestimate

Here are a few pics - crapberry quality not brilliant. ignore the rust and the vehicle being super dirty :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo:
by Doctor V
Mon Apr 11, 2011 4:12 pm
Forum: General Hilux Discussions
Topic: Guestimate
Replies: 46
Views: 4281

Re: Guestimate

So also added tank on saturday. Fitted like a glove and myself and hope did some serious measuing to fit it in the loadbin. Had to move the rollbar about 10cm's back to make sure the filler pipes connect and bottom connector into primary filler. Outside filler also got small breather. Then strapped ...
by Doctor V
Mon Apr 11, 2011 3:36 pm
Forum: General Hilux Discussions
Topic: Guestimate
Replies: 46
Views: 4281

Re: Guestimate

My Buddy owns a battery Centre and his done a few through the years. he mentioned that we sometimes over compensate what we need

still owe some pics once I see my bakkie in daylight :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo:
by Doctor V
Fri Apr 08, 2011 3:56 pm
Forum: General Hilux Discussions
Topic: Guestimate
Replies: 46
Views: 4281

Re: Guestimate

just normal automotive red and black wire. think it said 4mm.... or maybe just me redoing some other item with that. wait, how come 6 or 8 sounds more familiar :beach: :beach: :beach: need to work less so I'm not this tired on a friday!!!

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